Stop telling us to vote for Obama

[Knightskye]

Kay?

[newyearsrevolution08]

vote obama woohoo!~

it is the only thing that makes sense to get back our country!

oh wait

vote mccain because palin said ron paul is cool!

[BarryDonegan]

i wish obama, mccain, palin and biden could just merge into ONE BALLOT AND THEY COULD GET RID OF THE REST OMG LESSOR OF 4 EVILS I WANT THEM ALL!!!!

[Knightskye]

Bump.

[libertythor]

Obama is just a Chocolate McCain who lies even more.

[Knightskye]

Obama is just a Chocolate McCain who lies even more.

HAHAHAHA. Chocolate McCain. Man... :D

[Kade]

By all means doublestuff, tell me who I should vote for then...

[RoamZero]

There is some rationale to voting Obama. Just as you have the right to vote for whomever you want, others here have the right to make the case for whomever they want.

[BarryDonegan]

ill help in doublestuffs place and give you some METRICS

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=153437

[Kade]

There is some rationale to voting Obama. Just as you have the right to vote for whomever you want, others here have the right to make the case for whomever they want.

Holy shitfuck you just hit me with a assload of common sense and reason, and I suddenly found myself utterly disoriented... are you a member here!?@!@ wtf?!

[Kade]

ill help in doublestuffs place and give you some METRICS

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=153437

Doesn't help. I'm in Rhode Island. Try again.

[John E]

If people vote for Obama the GOP will not be able to tell how many votes came from conservatives.

If people vote third party, Libertarian or Constitutional Party, then that will give the GOP numbers to look at. That will count if the election is close.

[newyearsrevolution08]

If people vote for Obama the GOP will not be able to tell how many votes came from conservatives.

If people vote third party, Libertarian or Constitutional Party, then that will give the GOP numbers to look at. That will count if the election is close.

LOL

well in that case

obama for president


wow and we are surprised that we lost when we have this sort of thought process in our ranks.

yeah a secret "million votes" for obama would really trick them LOL

[strapko]

I rather not vote for a communist or a fascist.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Kay?

Everyone telling us to are trolls from Obama campaign trying to convert us, they need to be promptly IP range banned

[DAFTEK]

vote obama woohoo!~

it is the only thing that makes sense to get back our country!

oh wait

vote mccain because palin said ron paul is cool!

QFT :rolleyes:

[DAFTEK]

Everyone telling us to are trolls from Obama campaign trying to convert us, they need to be promptly IP range banned

Actually some of them have been here for some time with post counts in the thousands now.... The problem has been that Mods wore soft on these ObamaManiacs for way to long and now that McPain has Palin on his side they know she liked Dr. Paul.

Dr. Paul wont endorse her as that would be like endorsing McPain.... Ive had it with these osama idiots on here...

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Actually some of them have been here for some time with post counts in the thousands now.... The problem has been that Mods wore soft on these ObamaManiacs for way to long and now that McPain has Palin on his side they know she liked Dr. Paul.

Dr. Paul wont endorse her as that would be like endorsing McPain.... Ive had it with these osama idiots on here...

They need to be banned

[Knightskye]

They need to be banned

I'm against turning the forums into a police state. I just think they should stop using the Revolution or Ron Paul as an excuse for us to vote for Obama.

[DGambler]

How could I ever vote for Obama when he is the antithesis for everything I believe in?

[SnappleLlama]

Dude, people can openly support any candidate they want...freedom of speech and all that.

[DAFTEK]

So can someone explain to me if this is the case why i should not worry about it? It looks to me like we will get taxed out of our ass with an Obama in the white house..... My hart tells my one thing my my pockets and family responsibility tells me another thing.... I have posted this here on RPF and a few other ones, so far no one has said anything so i will just assume its true which is worrisome...





Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750

Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)
* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....
* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!

[DAFTEK]

Maybe ill just start a new thread and see what all the Obama sheep have to say about it...

You can verify the above at the following web sites:
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

[SeanEdwards]

I don't care how evil the closet-muslim socialist Obomba is. All that matters to me is that this election choice is between one asshole who mocked Ron Paul on stage, and another asshole who did not mock Ron Paul on stage. Guess who gets my vote.

[BoBoDuFlachi]

fuck obama.
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Im still writing in Ron Paul

[DAFTEK]

I don't care how evil the closet-muslim socialist Obomba is. All that matters to me is that this election choice is between one asshole who mocked Ron Paul on stage, and another asshole who did not mock Ron Paul on stage. Guess who gets my vote.

Sounds like a great way to get those McCain and undecided voters who are afraid of the now known crazy tax hikes that everyone on MSM is talking about...

Ever hear Beck on this issue? Trust me Beck might say he likes Ron Paul but guess what, he will vote for McCain in the end and he ain't the only one who will vote with their pocket this Nov... Am i wrong? :rolleyes:

[Natalie]

I thought we weren't going to pick between the lesser of two evils? Haven't you guys learned anything from hanging out on these forums so much?!

[SeanEdwards]

Sounds like a great way to get those McCain and undecided voters who are afraid of the now known crazy tax hikes that everyone on MSM is talking about...

Ever hear Beck on this issue? Trust me Beck might say he likes Ron Paul but guess what, he will vote for McCain in the end and he ain't the only one who will vote with their pocket this Nov... Am i wrong? :rolleyes:

Some vote according to their pockets. I'm voting for revenge.

[Knightskye]

fuck obama.
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Im still writing in Ron Paul

The hell is a box of Baracks in the first place? :D

Can I ask why you're writing in Ron Paul rather than actually voting for someone?

[steph3n]

vote obama woohoo!~

it is the only thing that makes sense to get back our country!

oh wait

vote mccain because palin said ron paul is cool!

IMO it is easier to undo 4 more years of neocon policy than 4 years of socialism, just look at Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, we will have a hard time ever ridding ourselves of them.

That being said, DON'T vote for McCain or OBAMA!

[steph3n]

I thought we weren't going to pick between the lesser of two evils? Haven't you guys learned anything from hanging out on these forums so much?!

no obviously they don't care about the country. :D (neocon like spin on disagreeing)