Official RNC Roll Call Thread

[UtahApocalypse]

Its now or never.....

[UtahApocalypse]

first illegal act.... did not ASK for objection, just said there was none

[voytechs]

Its over.

[nullvalu]

whats Rule 40b?

[Menthol Patch]

What channel is the roll call on?

[nullvalu]

Its over.

I think that may have been just procedural, to commence with the delegation. There will still be a vote.

[kirkblitz]

cspan 1

[phoenixrising]

HOSED !!! freikin hosed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

man so quick & he was stuttering even saying it!!!!!!!!

[nullvalu]

What channel is the roll call on?

I'm watching C-SPAN

[UtahApocalypse]

I think that may have been just procedural, to commence with the delegation. There will still be a vote.

Yes but it was also to do with placing any other names into nomination

[Menthol Patch]

I hope someone is able to say they vote for Ron Paul.

[Menthol Patch]

Will Ron Paul's delegates be able to go up there and nominate him?

[devil21]

Hehe I hear some RON PAUL in the back. lol you go guys.

[UtahApocalypse]

Someone yelled Ron Paul and they said there were none!!!

[Dave39168]

chair: Are there any other nominations?
somewhere in the crowd: RON PAAAAULLLLL!

did yall hear it?

[nullvalu]

He just asked if there were any other nominations, and someone shouted RON PAUL! But it wasn't recognized.

NOW WE'VE BEEN HOSED!!!!!!!!!

[kirkblitz]

Fucked us again

[RedLightning]

Someone yelled Ron Paul and they said there were none!!!

Frikkin Pisses me off. :mad:

[devil21]

And the suicide of the GOP starts...

[Dave39168]

Ron paauuuul!!!!!!

[Menthol Patch]

This is so so so sickening....

[Kilrain]

Someone yelled Ron Paul and they said there were none!!!


I heard it, too, and it sure made me smile.

[Menthol Patch]

Can anyone answer my question though?

Will Ron Paul's delegates be allowed to come up and speak?

[ronpaulitician]

I guess my TV speakers are better than that GOP dude's ears.

[Menthol Patch]

5 votes for Ron Paul!!!!!

[Rangeley]

5 votes for ron paul!!!

[Dave39168]

5 votes for RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!

[nullvalu]

5 votes - ron paul!

[UtahApocalypse]

5 for Ron Paul !@!

[Kilrain]

Someone yelled Ron Paul


I heard it, too, and it sure made me smile.

[devil21]

Can anyone answer my question though?

Will Ron Paul's delegates be allowed to come up and speak?

No offense, but are you serious? I have the feeling EVERY delegate will be "pledged" to McCain even if they shouldnt be.

EDIT: Nm, already showing 5 votes for "OTHERS".

[hillertexas]

5 votes RP!!!

[kirkblitz]

LOL she wouldnt say ron paul got 5 after alaska said 5

[Jeremy]

official thread? you arent a mod!

[Menthol Patch]

Arizona passes!!!! What?????

[demolama]

5 for other!

[Dave39168]

arizona passes???????

[Rangeley]

Arizona passes!!!! What?????

They are waiting to win it for McCain.

[UtahApocalypse]

arizona passes???????

McCain is from Arizona. Its typical

[RedLightning]

arizona passes???????

their going to go for a vote of acclamation..

[evilfunnystuff]

arizona passes

[Menthol Patch]

I hope we get more than five votes.

[Dave39168]

the constitution state my ass

[voytechs]

Arizona passed - 0 votes - LOL

[chonald]

where are you all watching this? what url?

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I cannot find a network where I can actually hear what is being said on the floor. They are all filled with analysts telling me what I should be thinking about the beauty queen's speech.

[Dave39168]

where are you all watching this? what url?

its on Cspan 1

[powerofreason]

where are you all watching this? what url?

Its called basic cable buddy. CSPAN.

[Chomsky]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22886841#22886841

[Kilrain]

I'm watching on CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

[ShowMeLiberty]

Arizona passed - 0 votes - LOL

Just wait. It will come back to Arizona later.

Illinois did the same thing at DNC. Then New Mexico "yielded" to Illinois and Illinois "yielded" to New York. That's when Hillary came out and moved to suspend further state by state counting.

Watch. It will happen like that here too.

[Menthol Patch]

Still only 5 votes?

[blakjak]

I cannot find a network where I can actually hear what is being said on the floor. They are all filled with analysts telling me what I should be thinking about the beauty queen's speech.

haha, so true

[Starfield]

A lot of them are voting for Palin for VP. They can't really do that.

[kirkblitz]

WTF!!!!!!!! idaho went 26 for mccain but they had 32 votes.

Fucked us!!

[Alawn]

Arizona passed - 0 votes - LOL

That is what another state did once so it didn't have to vote for who they were bound to in the first vote. They then were able to vote for who they wanted in the second vote. Plus it helped not give the candidate the required 50%. But I doubt there will be enough people not voting for McCain to let it go to a second vote. But maybe they aren't sitting out the whole first round and they are just going later.

[ShowMeLiberty]

A lot of them are voting for Palin for VP. They can't really do that.

They aren't really doing it. They're just mentioning her along with McCain.

[UtahApocalypse]

WTF!!!!!!!! idaho went 26 for mccain but they had 32 votes.

Fucked us!!

We worked Idaho hard and had delegates there :(

[bkreigh]

first illegal act.... did not ASK for objection, just said there was none

did anybody hear somebody yell ron paul?

[Kilrain]

WTF!!!!!!!! idaho went 26 for mccain but they had 32 votes.

Fucked us!!

I think people noticed that on the floor. It went pretty silent there...

[Adam Smith]

They're not noting any votes for anyone other than McCain.

[Kilrain]

did anybody hear somebody yell ron paul?

Yep.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

The corrupt gop screwed paul on idaho!

[TurtleBurger]

Didn't we win a couple delegates in Iowa?

[Menthol Patch]

We are getting screwed.

This whole thing is illegitimate.

[RedLightning]

We are getting screwed.

This whole thing is illegitimate.

F*** the GOP.

[bkreigh]

We should have 1 delegate in Maine!

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

This is ridiculous. But not surprising. They will not allow a dissident "scene" unless enough Ron Paul delegates get pissed enough to make one.

[chonald]

this is such bullshit.

[rockandrollsouls]

I'd like to know what our delegates have to say about it....

[UtahApocalypse]

This is ridiculous. But not surprising. They will not allow a dissident "scene" unless enough Ron Paul delegates get pissed enough to make one.

If I was their I would have punched someone by now

[Menthol Patch]

Only five delegates so far???!!!!

This is crazy.

[bkreigh]

21 delegates 20 votes for Maine.

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

How did they steal the Iowa votes? He won Jefferson County.

If those 3 RP fuckers from Nevada don't show up and vote for RP I will be pissed.

[thomaspaine23]

lol Maine had 21 votes but they only cast 20.....

[Menthol Patch]

If we don't get our delegates can Ron Paul sue the GOP?

[UtahApocalypse]

They completely have us fucked

[nullvalu]

We should have 1 delegate in Maine!

Yep, they had 21 votes, but only named 20. Why aren't they naming the others?!??

[Brian]

I hate these people. I need a Ron Paul hug.

[UtahApocalypse]

"My good..." and he don't even know the name???

[Kilrain]

Well, props to Alaska for actually awarding the votes to RP. Idaho and Maine not so much...

[Rangeley]

This is disgraceful.

[bkreigh]

Yep, they had 21 votes, but only named 20. Why aren't they naming the others?!??

im going to guess because RP was not officially on the ballot because the dip ship said "after hearing no objections" so fast.

[MozoVote]

This is like watching a vote by the Supreme Soviet.

They're probably stuffing all the McCain alternates up to cast unanimous votes.

[UtahApocalypse]

Well, props to Alaska for actually awarding the votes to RP. Idaho and Maine not so much...

+1

[ShowMeLiberty]

They're not noting any votes for anyone other than McCain.


We should have 1 delegate in Maine!

There you go. Maine has 21 votes. Casts 20 votes for John McCain

This is pathetic. At least the DNC roll call counted the votes for Obama and the votes for Clinton.

I'm turning this off. It's a farce.

[bkreigh]

Well, props to Alaska for actually awarding the votes to RP. Idaho and Maine not so much...

There is only one speaker for the states and whatever they say goes really. its sad but what can you do now?

[Dave39168]

41 votes minnesota, 35 for mccain????

[Menthol Patch]

What!!!!!

Minnisota had 41 votes but they gave 35 to John McCain!!!

WE ARE SCREWED!!!

NOOOOO!!!! DARN IT!!!!!

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[thomaspaine23]

lol minnesota 41 votes and they only cast 35...

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Glad to see that six of the MN delegates for Ron Paul appear to have done their duty.

[Brian]

There you go. Maine has 21 votes. Casts 20 votes for John McCain

This is pathetic. At least the DNC roll call counted the votes for Obama and the votes for Clinton.

I'm turning this off. It's a farce.

Disgusting. Disgusting.

[Chiznaddy]

this is ridiculous....who could not hear them say Ron Paul when they asked if there were any other nominations???

what a bunch of crap....all these people are toolbags

[Menthol Patch]

Ron Paul better stand up about this!

He needs to post an urgent update on his website.

[MozoVote]

Ha, they didn't even bother to explain the few Minnesota votes that were not going to McCain...

[UtahApocalypse]

For the record I know of 6 RP delegates from Utah. If anything different is done im going to be outraged even more.

[Menthol Patch]

These neocon scum bags are worse than Hitler.

[voytechs]

Nevada is up shortly.

[thomaspaine23]

And let this be a lesson to us all.....


It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
Joseph Stalin

[Dorfsmith]

That does it. I'm officially leaving the Republican party and putting a Bob Barr sticker on my car. I wasn't going to do it but everybody I talk to around town assumes I'm voting for McCain just because I have a Ron Paul sticker on my car. The Republican party makes me sick. I'm done with them for good. :mad:

[Dave39168]

Nebraska passes

[Menthol Patch]

Nebraska passes.....

[bkreigh]

Nebraska passes? interesting on that one. I understand Arizona

[rockandrollsouls]

We have the contact of the delegates, right? We need to contact them to see what happened.

[runningdiz]

For the record I know of 6 RP delegates from Utah. If anything different is done im going to be outraged even more.

you realize they wont get to utah right?

[Menthol Patch]

Nevada passes too! What?!!!!

[devil21]

Figures that Nevada passed. Cant count those Ron Paul delegates.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Nevada and New Hampshire pass.

[UtahApocalypse]

Holy crap

[nullvalu]

whats with all the passes??!

[bkreigh]

i understand what is going. They are all passing to give it to Arizona

[runningdiz]

they will all pass until it goes back to arizona

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Bah, Nevada passed.

[Chiznaddy]

there all passing!!!!!!!

[MozoVote]

Voting will end once McCain gets enough.

[UtahApocalypse]

Everyone will pass now, so it will go to Arizona

[Menthol Patch]

All of these states have passed!!!!!

[DAFTEK]

What!!!!!

Minnisota had 41 votes but they gave 35 to John McCain!!!

WE ARE SCREWED!!!

NOOOOO!!!! DARN IT!!!!!

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Minnesota voted 41...

[Brian]

Sue Lowden behind all the Nevada shenanigans. That's right bitch. She can't say Ron Paul. No guts.

[Alawn]

A lot of passes

[Menthol Patch]

This is freaking crazy!

They are doing everything they can to avoid mentioning Ron Paul.

[smithtg]

What a freaking joke

i wanted montana to add some rp votes and then nevada passes!!

All losers all losers

[RonPaulFanInGA]

And North Dakota passes.

They're screwing us.

[RedLightning]

I'm going to go buy some Bob Barr stickers...

[Menthol Patch]

What? North Dakota passes......

[bkreigh]

i want to puke all over the place.

[nullvalu]

Wtf?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Passing till Arizona.

[mport1]

You all realize they want Arizona to give him the winning votes right? Why is everyone freaking out?

[Menthol Patch]

Bob Barr is not worth our support.

He is just a neo-con lite.

[Dorfsmith]

SICK SICK SICK. :mad:

[Starfield]

They want to pass until a certain state put them over the top.

[UtahApocalypse]

why are our delegates not raising hell

[Dorfsmith]

Bob Barr is not worth our support.

He is just a neo-con lite.

Maybe so but he has every Republican I know running scared. I'll take his sticker off after November.

[porcupine]

Are they all passing so that Paul doesn't get any votes??

[bkreigh]

ore a gone WTF? Its Oregon. Its simple to say!!!!

[RSLudlum]

WTF is going on with the 'passes'??

[ShowMeLiberty]

You guys should have watched the DNC roll call. This is exactly how it's done. All the passes anyway. That other stuff about not saying who the other votes go to is a whole other story.

[Menthol Patch]

Our delegates need to be yelling and screaming!

[UtahApocalypse]

they are passing back to Arizona

[RSLudlum]

Arizona will give the nomination

[voytechs]

Nebraska and New Jersey passes, New Mexico passes passes as well as Arizona and Alaska gives 5 votes to RP. In your face GOP!

[Menthol Patch]

I refuse to vote for someone who voted for the Patriot Act, the War in Iraq, etc.

[voytechs]

All the N's are passing!!!!

[runningdiz]

You guys should have watched the DNC roll call. This is exactly how it's done. All the passes anyway. That other stuff about not saying who the other votes go to is a whole other story.

Thank you!I dont get why everyone is so clueless about what is going on. THEY ARE GETTING BACK TO ARIZONA

[RedLightning]

After Arizona votes I bet they stop.

[rockandrollsouls]

Nebraska and New Jersey passes, New Mexico passes passes as well as Arizona and Alaska gives 5 votes to RP. In your face GOP!

They are passing to Arizona.

[austinchick]

please someone explain to me what this means

[MozoVote]

Wow there are some real n00bs on this thread. Calm down. They do this every election cycle.... usually either the home state of the nominee, or a pivotal state which put him over the top, casts the final vote.

[kirkblitz]

They said at the beginning everyone has to be given a chance to vote twice . They will vote again after arizona gives the nomination i think.

[voytechs]

Just heard some Ron Paul chants, and all the remaining states are passing!!!!

[mport1]

Wow there are some real n00bs on this thread. Calm down. They do this every election cycle.... usually either the home state of the nominee, or a pivotal state which put him over the top, casts the final vote.

Yes stop freaking out. They are not doing the passing to screw Ron Paul.

[UtahApocalypse]

I could see 2 of the Utah RP delegates

[RedLightning]

Wow there are some real n00bs on this thread. Calm down. They do this every election cycle.... usually either the home state of the nominee, or a pivotal state which put him over the top, casts the final vote.

I just hope they don't stop counting after Arizona.

[Starfield]

Will all the passing states get a vote or do they just stop after Arizona?

[Dave39168]

virgin islands or Guam could have voted their nine votes and not put him over the top

[voytechs]

That shut up the neocons. No more cheers. I love it!!!!!

[runningdiz]

After Arizona votes I bet they stop.

Well... thats the point of passing to Arizona so they push him over and end all of this. SO yes they will stop.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Will all the passing states get a vote or do they just stop after Arizona?

ARizona will move to suspend the count and nominate McCain.

[thomaspaine23]

My bet is they'll stop counting after Arizona....

He who must not be named cannot get more attention!

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
Joseph Stalin

[Menthol Patch]

We have been screwed...

I'm soooo mad now.

[TurtleBurger]

OK I turned it off. Enough of this nonsense.

[voytechs]

Every state is passing!!!

[Menthol Patch]

If they stop counting after Arizona I will throw up.

[voytechs]

Texas passed!!!

[rockandrollsouls]

every state is passing!!!

to get to arizona to elect john mccain

[mport1]

Are people here retarded?

[voytechs]

He might not get enough for the first ballot. He's got 1170 out of 1191 needed. Every state is passing in protest!!!

[Dave39168]

i was alright up till now, but don't associate Barry Goldwater with John McCain like that!

[rockandrollsouls]

Are people here retarded?

Apparently Voytechs is. I literally laughed out loud when I read his last comment. They are passing in protest lmao.

[UtahApocalypse]

He might not get enough for the first ballot. He's got 1170 out of 1191 needed. Every state is passing in protest!!!

your a idiot

[MozoVote]

Yay. The balloons are falling. We've nominated a Democrat. Woo-hoo.

[bkreigh]

and here we go again.

[Menthol Patch]

Nebraska 33 votes but only casted 31 votes for McCain.

[0zzy]

your a idiot

you're*

just sayin

[Menthol Patch]

Nevada 34 votes... all for McCain...

Did we get any delegates in Nevada?

[Starfield]

Nevada WTF?

[Dave39168]

Nevada 34 votes?!?!?

[kirkblitz]

WTFFFFF our 3 delegates in NV fucked uS!!!

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Nevada all in for McCain.

Damn GOP.

[UtahApocalypse]

Holy shit what happened to the 4 promised nevada delegates

[devil21]

So they just totally dicked the 4 RP delegates in Nevada. Disgusting. I will NOT vote the GOP and I hope they lose embarrassingly. Dispicable.

[UtahApocalypse]

nh ALL mCcAIN??? nOW i KNOW ITS A TOTAL BULLSHIT SETUP

[steph3n]

Nevada 34 votes... all for McCain...

Did we get any delegates in Nevada?
yes 7 were elected by the people even, but they stole them. 4 were promised or something like that.

[Starfield]

I'm glad that Nevada woman could smile while casting the vote for McCain. Fraud

[MozoVote]

The chairmen of most of the states simply swapped in alternates to vote for McCain, I'm sure. This is just a game to see if any states honor the original slates.

[UtahApocalypse]

So they just totally dicked the 4 RP delegates in Nevada. Disgusting. I will NOT vote the GOP and I hope they lose embarrassingly. Dispicable.

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

[thomaspaine23]

WTFFFFF our 3 delegates in NV fucked uS!!!

No the GOP did, they had 2 different groups of delegates, they did some shuck and jive, and repremanded the NV gop then turned around and seated the GOP NV delegates instead of the Paul delegates...

[Dave39168]

the unanimous votes in NV, NH, etc. i guess they can get away that since the chair didn't recognize the nomination for Dr. Paul

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Well at least we got five....

[Triton]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.Dumb-ass uninformed comments like this are why I haven't posted here in months.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

This garbage is making me sick to my stomach. I know we have more delegates than this!

[Menthol Patch]

So we got delegates but they are not being counted?

[CasualApathy]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

vasted vote.

[demolama]

this is all done to look like the Republicans are all behind 1 man without any dissent.... they'll then use it against Obama by saying over 1//3 of the dems voted for Hillary.

[0zzy]

No the GOP did, they had 2 different groups of delegates, they did some shuck and jive, and repremanded the NV gop then turned around and seated the GOP NV delegates instead of the Paul delegates...

so the ron paul delegates became alternate delegates ?

[AJ Antimony]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

What the hell is wrong with you

[Menthol Patch]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

Don't vote for Obama. Write in Ron Paul.

[Dorfsmith]

Don't vote for Obama. Write in Ron Paul.

X2

[bkreigh]

Sorry New York residents but that guy sounded like an idiot

[CasualApathy]

Dumb-ass uninformed comments like this are why I haven't posted here in months.

qft. :p

[Brian]

So they just totally dicked the 4 RP delegates in Nevada. Disgusting. I will NOT vote the GOP and I hope they lose embarrassingly. Dispicable.

If you didn't know Sue Lowden was a knifing whore, you know now. Outright lies.

[StateofTrance]

NC - 65 for McShame out of 69

[gworrel]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

Now there is a campaign slogan! Vote for Obama, the socialist scum. You gave me a good laugh. Even if you are serious.

[rockandrollsouls]

Sorry New York residents but that guy sounded like an idiot

They come down to our shore in the summer....try dealin' with that :D

[MozoVote]

Well at least we got five....

They never showed the six "nonvoting" delegates from Minnesota... so yeah it might be officially five, so far...

Here comes NC. Again, just omitting to mention who those other 4 votes are for...

Paul only had 3. There must be a stealth delegate or a Huck delegate who would not give in...

[thomaspaine23]

Hey at least the guy from Alasaka was stand up enough to mention the 5 votes for Ron Paul....

Kudos to him for doing it.

[PeacePlan]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

I agree I also will vote for all Dems down the line - I want to see them lose bad. Then we have a chance to come in and take over.

I hate Obama McCain both... If McCain wins they will marginalize us.............

[thomaspaine23]

Now there is a campaign slogan! Vote for Obama, the socialist scum. You gave me a good laugh. Even if you are serious.

No no no, I have a better one,


Vote for Obama, because America is an Obamanation!!!

[AJ Antimony]

I agree I also will vote for all Dems down the line - I want to see them lose bad. Then we have a chance to come in and take over.

I hate Obama McCain both... If McCain wins they will marginalize us.............

They're the same party dude. Voting Libertarian is the same as voting against Republicans

[voytechs]

Apparently Voytechs is. I literally laughed out loud when I read his last comment. They are passing in protest lmao.

WTF, about 20 states just cast 0 votes by passing. Then they went back and hit those same states a second time and got votes. Am I in twilight zone? I'm YouTubing the entire time, so we'll see after its all done.

[Dave39168]

No no no, I have a better one,


Vote for Obama, because America is an Obamanation!!!

lols

[Menthol Patch]

Can the GOP be sued?

[Dave39168]

WTF, about 20 states just cast 0 votes by passing. Then they went back and hit those same states a second time and got votes. Am I in twilight zone? I'm YouTubing the entire time, so we'll see after its all done.

chill dude that's normal

[StateofTrance]

Oregon - 26 votes for McCain, 4 votes for Ron Paul :D

[rockandrollsouls]

props to oregon for at least mentioning ron

[UtahApocalypse]

Go Oregon!!!

[PeacePlan]

They're the same party dude. Voting Libertarian is the same as voting against Republicans


No they are not - voting Libertarian is wasting my vote because they will not win. Voting the GOP out of office is the most effective thing I can do with my vote and anything else is a waste IMO

[thomaspaine23]

WOO HOO Oregon!!! Glad I moved here!!!!!

4 more for Paul!!!!

[parocks]

Oregon 4 votes Ron Paul.

[Orgoonian]

woooo Oregon!!:D

[texasbelle]

Yeah 4 more!

[Dave39168]

Oregon 4 votes!!!!

[0zzy]

much respect to Oregon and Alaska, some good people actually counting the votes

[mport1]

Nice, 4 for RP.

[StateofTrance]

go oregon!!!

fuck yeah

[MozoVote]

Cool, props to Oregon to actually mentioning RP.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

My question is, if Ron Paul's support is so low as they claim, why are they trying to hide his votes.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Oregon: 4 for Ron Paul.

We'd be at 30-50 if they were counting all Ron Paul delegates and put his name on this ballot.

[StateofTrance]

WOO HOO Oregon!!! Glad I moved here!!!!!

4 more for Paul!!!!

A+++

[Mini-Me]

Agreed, if Ron Paul lost fair then so be it. Im voting Obama Ive made my mind up. i dont care if he is a socialist scum.

Just remember that you'll only be perpetuating the two-party stranglehold. Until we take over a party of more people start showing that they're fed up with "both" of their choices, nothing will ever change.


I refuse to vote for someone who voted for the Patriot Act, the War in Iraq, etc.
I once thought the same...here are a few things to mull over in case you might reconsider. The first three are from Bradley's sig:
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13262
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=136012
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=153168

This is a post I made pleading with people to stop the infighting. When I started writing the post, I wasn't planning on voting for Barr...I made my decision while thinking the whole post through:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1611526&postcount=147

You're free to disagree, but I figured trying to persuade you is still worth a shot :)

[Badger Paul]

I just want to know what the fuck is going on that's all.

We have four delegates in Nevada. We fight our asses off just to get those and it's all for McCain.

I thought we had delegates in Missouri and Iowa and both states all in McCain.

Just someone who's there tells us what the hell is going on! There's pratically a delegate blackout this entire convention. I was fully expecting blogs or posts on here and such and there's been hardly any information.

I don't want to attack anyone. Just let us know what's happening...

You want to know what's going to happen to Sarah Palin when gets inside the Beltway, sort of like what's happening to our delegates right now. They're told what to do, what to say and how to say it. They're followed around and chaporoned like little school children. Ron Paul himself can't go on the floor unless he accompied by a flunkie.

The McCain must be just having a ball right now. "Ha, Ha! You thought you were going to disurupt things but we ran you like puppets. We're in complete control."

The ASSHOLES! I'm furious right now. All this fucking work and for what? To be treated like this. This party has made it one thing clear: WE WILL NOT ALLOW DISSENT!
Is it too much to ask Ron Paul's delegates be counted?

I don't care if Palin's on the ticket. I can't wait to backstab your asses with Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin this fall. Then we'll see who has the last laugh jerk-offs!

Maybe they'll only get one percent, but you may very well need that one percent to win a Wisconsin, or a Montana or even Georgia for that matter.

Go ask Al Gore how valuable Nader's vote were in Florida and Nader didn't get jerked around and the Democratic Convention the way Ron Paul is right now.

Then maybe, just maybe, we might bring some democracy back to the GOP.

Last free Republican please turn off the lights.

[bkreigh]

Props for Oregon!!!!!!

[jabrownie]

I am really wondering what the heck is going on.

What happened to Nevada! ND, Montana, Pennsylvania, etc. Jeeze! Alaska seems to be the only state with the balls to say Ron Paul's name.

[Dave39168]

No they are not - voting Libertarian is wasting my vote because they will not win. Voting the GOP out of office is the most effective thing I can do with my vote and anything else is a waste IMO

If you think you will cast the tie breaking vote, then yes use it strategically as you see fit.

However your vote alone will not decide who is the next president. Try to find someone who represents your beliefs in whatever party and vote for them. For me that's Bob Barr. Vote your conscience, this is not a horse race.

[PeacePlan]

I am really wondering what the heck is going on.

What happened to Nevada! ND, Montana, Pennsylvania, etc. Jeeze! Alaska seems to be the only state with the balls to say Ron Paul's name.

Minnesota is also missing 6 votes..........

[Nic4Truth]

Sorry New York residents but that guy sounded like an idiot

LOL- I am from NY and i was embarrassed by this goomba

[Dequeant]

Dumb-ass uninformed comments like this are why I haven't posted here in months.


Actually, I'd tend to side with him on this. I hate both McCain and Obama, and i'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils...........so i just may vote for the greater of 2 evils. Purely just to hasten the battle between good and evil......a real revolution, made up of more than just college kids waving signs and uploading videos to youtube.... I mean a revolution of the oldest sort, with men with weapons, fighting for what they believe in to overthrow an oppressive government. You can marginalize the right wing of the RP revolution all you want, but if and when the peaceful revolution fails it will actually take REAL sacrifice from TRUE patriots to return us to a constitutional government.

[voytechs]

Arizona passes!!!! What?????

Who is the idiot now. Must be feeling a little idiotic yourself now. Shit I thought "pass" means 0 votes!!

[Starfield]

Did he just vote for George S. McCain?

[devil21]

OMG he said George S. McCain!!! Spread that shit now! lol

[UtahApocalypse]

"George S. McCain" LMAO

[Mini-Me]

Hey at least the guy from Alasaka was stand up enough to mention the 5 votes for Ron Paul....

Kudos to him for doing it.

It's unfortunate that they'll be sending him to the gas chambers shortly.
(Kidding of course, but...)

[voytechs]

chill dude that's normal

I thought pass means 0 votes. But all it means we'll vote later.

[Menthol Patch]

Who is the idiot now. Must be feeling a little idiotic yourself now. Shit I thought "pass" means 0 votes!!

The idiots are the neocons.

I'm not feeling idiotic at all.

What's your problem punk?

[rockandrollsouls]

Not even texas :(

[Starfield]

What state voted for George S. McCain?

[Mini-Me]

I agree I also will vote for all Dems down the line - I want to see them lose bad. Then we have a chance to come in and take over.

I hate Obama McCain both... If McCain wins they will marginalize us.............

If you do this though, they won't see how much of their lost support was from the libertarian wing of the party...so they won't have as much incentive to change in our direction.

[UtahApocalypse]

Utah: WTF??? We had 6 Delegates there !@!!!!!!!

[texasbelle]

ugh texas... why do the have those cowboy hats? makes us look like a bunch of hicks!