Rothbard's "Left and Right": 40 Years Later

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Roderick T. Long presents the 'Murray N. Rothbard Memorial Lecture' at the 2006 Austrian Scholars Conference. The ASC is the international, interdisciplinary meeting of the Austrian School, and is for scholars interested or working in this intellectual tradition. Held at the Mises Institute, Auburn, Alabama, March 16-18, 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31FQ1_jjlQ

Check it out.

In short,

libertariansm is leftwing

socialism is "middle of the road"

and conservatism is rightwing, statist, opposite of libertarianism

he makes his argument for this in this video. It's very fascinating.

[Truth Warrior]

Murray got it wrong, libertarian is NO-wing of the statist bird. Perhaps, that's why he invented the term "anarcho-capitalism".

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Murray got it wrong, libertarian is NO-wing of the statist bird. Perhaps, that's why he invented "anarcho-capitalism".

Well, it's an opinion.

I'm a Left-Libertarian.

[Paulitician]

In a historical context he's probably right. Either way, these labels have been used to mean different things, in different times, and in different places. In my opinion, they have lost all usefulness, and are stupid.

[Truth Warrior]

Left and Right: The Prospects for Liberty

by Murray N. Rothbard (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard-lib.html)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard33.html

[Truth Warrior]

Well, it's an opinion.

I'm a Left-Libertarian.

No, you're an oxymoron.

Are you also an atheist-theist?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian)

[JosephTheLibertarian]

No, you're an oxymoron.

Are you also an atheist-theist?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism does exist.

Or was that a personal attack?

[Conza88]

Truth warrior wins............





And yes.. I am drunk again :D

[Truth Warrior]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism does exist.

Or was that a personal attack?

A whole lot of BULLSHIT exists in wikipedia AKA WICKEDpedia.<IMHO> Any damned fool can just go out there and write whatever they want. :p :rolleyes:

Nope, no personal attack, just calling it as I see it. ;)

[Truth Warrior]

Truth warrior wins............





And yes.. I am drunk again :D "En vino, veritas." ;)

[Conza88]

I actually wrote that wikipedia, so Kade could feel some love. :p

[pdavis]

No, you're an oxymoron.

Are you also an atheist-theist?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertarian)

No it is not an oxymoron. The left-right spectrum goes back to the French legislative assembly during the French Revolution. Those who sat on the right were conservatives who wanted to conserve the monarchy, military, empire, aristocracy, mercantilism, and feudalism. Those who sat on the left were opposed to massive state power and big business. They included collectivist anarchists, socialists, individualist anarchists and classical liberals, or libertarians.

[Truth Warrior]

No it is not an oxymoron. The left-right spectrum goes back to the French legislative assembly during the French Revolution. Those who sat on the right were conservatives who wanted to conserve the monarchy, military, empire, aristocracy, mercantilism, and feudalism. Those who sat on the left were opposed to massive state power and big business. They included collectivist anarchists, socialists, individualist anarchists and classical liberals, or libertarians.
I understand the original origins of the STATIST political spectrum. This libertarian just ain't on it. ;)

[Malakai]

Great lecture!

I completely agree that socialism is really a mishmash of incompatible political ideals; which is why it's always doomed to failure. Statism (monarchy most common throughout history I guess), while not a good situation for the people, at least works for long periods of time. As did classical liberalism here in the USA for quite some time.

Man I wish I could take one of Professor Long's philosophy classes!

[pdavis]

Great lecture!

I completely agree that socialism is really a mishmash of incompatible political ideals; which is why it's always doomed to failure. Statism (monarchy most common throughout history I guess), while not a good situation for the people, at least works for long periods of time. As did classical liberalism here in the USA for quite some time.

Man I wish I could take one of Professor Long's philosophy classes!

Here is his website if you are interested. http://praxeology.net/

[Kade]

I actually wrote that wikipedia, so Kade could feel some love. :p

No, you didn't.

[constituent]

No it is not an oxymoron. The left-right spectrum goes back to the French legislative assembly during the French Revolution.

</facepalm>

[Conza88]

No, you didn't.

:D I could have. :p