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Drknows
08-29-2008, 06:08 AM
i was right I knew mccain would pick her. Well looks like this is going to be a close race and Mccain might win.

cindy25
08-29-2008, 06:19 AM
might is not the word.

almost a sure thing

teasea
08-29-2008, 06:37 AM
Looks like I will have to vote for Mccain now

Kludge
08-29-2008, 06:40 AM
wtf... This pick will be worse for him then Lieberman.

Epic failure.

cindy25
08-29-2008, 06:42 AM
he just won.

Palin is everything the neo-cons could dream of, and she will bring in the old women with the blue hair that adored Hillary.

Kludge
08-29-2008, 06:46 AM
he just won.

Palin is everything the neo-cons could dream of, and she will bring in the old women with the blue hair that adored Hillary.

Because she's a member of a feminist organization?


Palin is a loon. She represents everything Obama's campaign is smearing McCain as.

cindy25
08-29-2008, 06:50 AM
because they want a woman so bad they would have voted for Hutchinson.

just as if Hillary had won the nomination, and picked Bayh for VP.

then Mccain could have picked Powell or Steele or Rice and won over the black vote.

Palin may me a neo-con loon , but the choice is the most brilliant political move since JFK picked LBJ. he wanted Symington but he wanted the white house more. had Nixon picked Rocky he would have won in 1960.

robert4rp08
08-29-2008, 06:53 AM
Confirmed? I might have to vote McCain now. She's hot.

teasea
08-29-2008, 06:54 AM
Palin is not a neocon and Mccain just bit off more than he can chew
I love it

Kludge
08-29-2008, 06:57 AM
Palin is not a neocon and Mccain just bit off more than he can chew

What's an anti-gay pro-life big-government Republican who "signed into law the largest operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion)." called????

LittleLightShining
08-29-2008, 07:01 AM
Wow. I'm impressed. I don't know where she stands on foreign policy from her wiki but if what I just read is true she seems like a great pick. I don't know whether to be happy about this (because she comes across as a woman of principle and integrity) or totally bummed (because McCain will probably win).

LittleLightShining
08-29-2008, 07:03 AM
What's an anti-gay pro-life big-government Republican who "signed into law the largest operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion)." called????You have to finish reading the paragraph:

In June 2007, Palin signed into law the largest operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion).[42] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The US$237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly US$1.6 billion.[43]
It sounds to me like a lot of the construction budget was providing state money for private enterprise.

teasea
08-29-2008, 07:03 AM
What's an anti-gay pro-life big-government Republican who "signed into law the largest operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion)." called????
with the price of gas and other things
have you redused your budget?

cindy25
08-29-2008, 07:06 AM
you will call her Madam Vice President come Jan 20th.

she is pro-war; otherwise her son would be in college instead of in Iraq with Jimmy McCain.

people join the army for 2 reasons:
1) they believe in the war thing
or
2) they have no money for college

surely the governor of Alaska can afford college for her son, so that leaves #1

teasea
08-29-2008, 07:13 AM
she is pro-war; otherwise her son would be in college instead of in Iraq with Jimmy McCain.
just because her son joined the military that makes her pro war?
do you have any kids? thats crazy.

cindy25
08-29-2008, 07:21 AM
yes-I have children, and they are not in the military.

I knew many people over the years who joined the military, and they all joined for economic reasons.

Palin is rich, or at least well able to afford college. or at least arrange an appointment to West Point. that would at least make some sense. or join ROTC.

but for someone of their class to join as a grunt shows poor judgment on the part of the parents.

teasea
08-29-2008, 07:30 AM
but for someone of their class to join as a grunt shows poor judgment on the part of the parents.
you cant make life decisions for your kids
that is up to them not you
you can advise but if you do in fact have kids
you will know that most of the time that will fall on def ears

Agent Chameleon
08-29-2008, 09:07 AM
McCain isn't going to win.

Many conservatives like myself won't vote for him even with a semi-decent pick like Palin.

tmosley
08-29-2008, 09:08 AM
It seems like a rather conceited choice. "I'm running against a black guy, so I need some "diversity" on the ticket." Lots of people are going to think about the corruption inherent in Alaska's political system (Ted Stevens, for example), and might just make the connection.

I think most people will probably see through his pick as little more than pandering. Eventually, most people are going to see the truth about our party leadership--they are nothing but a bunch of corrupt old warmongers.

I can't stand the thought of Obama in the White House, but I think the alternative is somehow even worse. We have got to get control of our party back.

Primbs
08-29-2008, 09:09 AM
She is a hunter.

Sandra
08-29-2008, 09:12 AM
yes-I have children, and they are not in the military.

I knew many people over the years who joined the military, and they all joined for economic reasons.

Palin is rich, or at least well able to afford college. or at least arrange an appointment to West Point. that would at least make some sense. or join ROTC.

but for someone of their class to join as a grunt shows poor judgment on the part of the parents.


Spoken by someone who either has no kids or they are very young and you are delusional. I was when my kids were young. :rolleyes:

My oldest is doing things that make my hair stand on end.

Sandra
08-29-2008, 09:13 AM
It will be a piece of cake to tie her to corruption in AK in attack ads even though she may not have a thing to do with it.

pacelli
08-29-2008, 09:35 AM
Looks like I will have to vote for Mccain now

No chance in hell here.

olehounddog
08-29-2008, 09:36 AM
Looks like I will have to vote for Mccain now

You were probably going to anyway.

Monolithic
08-29-2008, 09:37 AM
why the hell would you vote for mccain based on his vp pick?

mccain is still going to be one in charge if the ticket wins

Meatwasp
08-29-2008, 09:40 AM
months ago we were all yapping to put her on the ticket with Ron Paul. She is still better than most.

micahnelson
08-29-2008, 09:45 AM
It will be a piece of cake to tie her to corruption in AK in attack ads even though she may not have a thing to do with it.

She has a pretty strong transparency background, and many of the corruption charges were suggested by Palin herself. Its an Obama situation, in that we don't have much information- but at this point I like what I see.

She does not support gay marriage, but she did veto legislation that would ban state agencies from granting benefits to gay couples. I would like to see why she opposes gay marriage.

I oppose all forms of Government sanctioned marriage- including gay marriage.

She is for drilling, but so are most of the Alaskan people- and she has fought to keep big companies from pilfering Alaska- so she has defended her state.

We'll see. Im giving an approval at this point- but much depends one what comes out in the next few days. The real question becomes- how likely is it that McCain will survive the next 4 to 8 years?

pacelli
08-29-2008, 09:47 AM
why the hell would you vote for mccain based on his vp pick?

mccain is still going to be one in charge if the ticket wins

Your second point is highly debatable, but I agree with your overall point.

georgiaboy
08-29-2008, 09:48 AM
mccain's only hope for me would be to pick ron paul or ron's near-equal and stump for paul policies before I'd ever even consider voting for him, no matter who else he put on his ticket.

mccain is dead to me.

as for the move politically to get mccain the presidency, i think it's a terrible choice. think mondale/ferraro.

yuk.

haaaylee
08-29-2008, 10:01 AM
why the hell would you vote for mccain based on his vp pick?

mccain is still going to be one in charge if the ticket wins


Because Cheney had no influence on Bush at all. I see McCain as needing help as much as Bush - "I'm lost! Whats going on guys? Tell me what to do!"


Lieberman will probably be the new Karl Rove.


Also, wasn't there a libertarian (or someone we seemed to like) in Alaska or something? That was a female? I thought it was the governor but this doesn't seem right ----- who was it?

DirtMcGirt
08-29-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm voting third party but this is a great gamble by Mclame. First, b/c now when somebody brings up she has no experience all they have to say is what about Obama, "why is he so much different?" Two- women who are die-hard feminists will have a serious dilemma, if they vote for policies or simply for a women. Third- Obama is a good looking human (in my opinion) and is "made for the tv camera", she is also easy on the eyes. (we live in a nation of sheep) 4th if energy and iraq are going to be the biggest issues you have the gov. of Alaska and two parents who have children in military...

Aratus
08-29-2008, 10:54 AM
i was right I knew mccain would pick her.
Well looks like this is going to be a close race and Mccain might win.

still 269 verses 269 and a 50/50 split, yet i see why you said this.:D
even though i could have sworn it would be mitt romney and rove in bliss!


(maybe)
(its tight)
(its CLOSE)

he just won.

Palin is everything the neo-cons could dream of, and she
will bring in the old women with the blue hair that adored Hillary.

the big oil neo-cons must be doing a vintage bill mckinley victory dance stomp
most previous and prior to TR's trust busting for its 50/50 if one of their honchos
is to be real soon now entrenched in the governor's mansion come a republican november truimph for
this latterday big mack. the pretty lady is a reformer... sorta. someone mayhap soon
runs for HER job now that its a fifty/fifty for us as we try to make up our rEVOLUTIOn minds!



Palin is not a neocon
and Mccain just bit off more
than he can chew. I love it

this is exciting. mccain was actually G.O.P astute!
he settles both sides happily. big money and small gov't


What's an anti-gay pro-life
big-government Republican who "signed into law the largest
operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion)." called????

don't blame me, its like i'm ALMOST from mitt romney's flipflopping TAXACHUSETTs... she SEYz?


you will call her Madam Vice President come Jan 20th.

she is pro-war; otherwise her son would be in college instead of in Iraq with Jimmy McCain.

people join the army for 2 reasons:
1) they believe in the war thing
or
2) they have no money for college

surely the governor of Alaska can afford college for her son, so that leaves #1


yes-I have children, and they are not in the military.

I knew many people over the years who joined the military, and they all joined for economic reasons.

Palin is rich, or at least well able to afford college. or at least arrange an appointment to West Point. that would at least make some sense. or join ROTC.

but for someone of their class to join as a grunt shows poor judgment on the part of the parents.

my nephew graduates from bootcamp today.
he has ambtions and grades either good enuff
or almost for the point. his idea of a nifty summer
vacation was a place with few air conditioners, grub
three times a day greatly better than ww2 era C-rations
and an ol' indian wars fort with a history to it. i can truely be
very proud of his life choises yet damned worried about this all.
he is feckless in his own way as was young winston churchill when
in cuba in 1895, or he is close to the fecklessness of JFK just before that
japanese ship looms, or mayhap bill mckinley's chuck wagon dash at antietum.
when a teen has rites of passage impulses when seeking a proving ground, we wonder...




She is a hunter.

good for her. did she use a crossbow, a shotgun or a rifle?


It will be a piece of cake to tie her to corruption in AK in attack ads even though she may not have a thing to do with it.

the counter-ad brings wally hickel back to youtube video instantaneousness... trust me! i think she is basically an alaska reformer. not a ted stevens crony person...


why the hell would you vote
for mccain based on his vp pick?

mccain is still going to be one in charge
if the ticket wins

true...if he wins, he's our POTUS --- however this all show a degree of thought from him.


months ago we were all yapping to put her
on the ticket with Ron Paul. She is still better than most.

i should have opinioned on her earlier. until today i really had
no idea we in the the lower 49 were cognicent of her in a BIG way!


Because Cheney had no influence on Bush at all. I see McCain as needing help as much as Bush - "I'm lost! Whats going on guys? Tell me what to do!"


Lieberman will probably be the new Karl Rove.


Also, wasn't there a libertarian (or someone we seemed to like) in Alaska or something? That was a female? I thought it was the governor but this doesn't seem right ----- who was it?

rove is foiled? rove is antzy in the background?
like its he who wanted our bay stater utah "mitten"!



I'm voting third party but this is a great gamble by Mclame. First, b/c now when somebody brings up she has no experience all they have to say is what about Obama, "why is he so much different?" Two- women who are die-hard feminists will have a serious dilemma, if they vote for policies or simply for a women. Third- Obama is a good looking human (in my opinion) and is "made for the tv camera", she is also easy on the eyes. (we live in a nation of sheep) 4th if energy and iraq are going to be the biggest issues you have the gov. of Alaska and two parents who have children in military...


does this bobble my nader vote? my other option is bob barr
in lieu of ron paul and barry goldwater junior being a ballot option?

LibertyOfOne
08-29-2008, 11:03 AM
This has to be the smartest choice McCain has ever made. She will get the GOP base active again. She will pull from the Hillary voters. She will take some steam out of Obama's ticket which had a monopoly on "change". The idiotic American public will eat this up.

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 11:07 AM
Hell there are some in here eatin it up right now....

Great marketing indeed on mccains part.



This has to be the smartest choice McCain has ever made. She will get the GOP base active again. She will pull from the Hillary voters. She will take some steam out of Obama's ticket which had a monopoly on "change". The idiotic American public will eat this up.

aravoth
08-29-2008, 11:11 AM
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Kade
08-29-2008, 11:11 AM
She stands for socialist economics and conservative social values. She is the antithesis of everything I support.

aravoth
08-29-2008, 11:15 AM
She stands for socialist economics and conservative social values. She is the antithesis of everything I support.

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Kludge
08-29-2008, 11:20 AM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/sisko.gif

I don't get it.


Kade =/= Social Liberal

Mitt Romneys sideburns
08-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Its like a neo-con dream come true.

Plus, if I was an old man, I would totally bang her.

Kade
08-29-2008, 11:24 AM
I don't get it.


Kade =/= Social Liberal

I guess it is a good thing I don't see the picture... =/

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:25 AM
besides, were pure of heart most mormon mitt romney and her were most completely totally
both totally single, my ex-gov's impulses would be almost equal to mr. mitt romney's sideburns... here.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:29 AM
I guess it is a good thing I don't see the picture... =/


relax... i will try to explain this. wally hickel likes alaska's current governor.
she just might be his protege. this old dude who saw watergate close up yet wasn't
part of it. nobody has her doing a politics is strange bedfellows routine with ted stevens.
she's one of the good goverment REFORMERS. she's a social tory. a rugged 1800s individualist?
she goes hunting. charlton heston is asking god if by crossbow or planet of the apes rifle...
this i see clearly. she ain't pinko or red. just well read. maybe even including books by william f. buckley.
she basically AINT big oil money. the center point... of this centrist dance that has frustrated poor mitt dreadfully.

Kade
08-29-2008, 11:32 AM
relax... i will try to explain this. wally hickel likes alaska's current governor.
she just might be his protege. this old dude who saw watergate close up yet wasn't
part of it. nobody has her doing a politics is strange bedfellows routine with ted stevens.
she's one of the good goverment REFORMERS. she's a social tory. a rugged 1800s individualist?
she goes hunting. charlton heston is asking god if by crossbow or planet of the apes rifle...
this i see clearly. she ain't pinko or red. just well read. maybe even including books by william f. buckley.
she basically AINT big oil money. the center point... of this centrist dance that has frustrated poor mitt dreadfully.

She would probably be harmless... but she is also useless. A tool, that is allowing herself to be used by the GOP to potentially secure some extra stray Clintonians.

It's a cheap parlor trick.

angelatc
08-29-2008, 11:33 AM
you will call her Madam Vice President come Jan 20th.

she is pro-war; otherwise her son would be in college instead of in Iraq with Jimmy McCain.




That's insane. Kids have minds of their own. My hubby's bosses kid enlisted in the Marines a couple of months ago, and it was absolutely the last thing his father wanted.

The people next door are having a fit because their son won't join, breaking a long-standing family tradition.

Kids aren't props.

angelatc
08-29-2008, 11:35 AM
It will be a piece of cake to tie her to corruption in AK in attack ads even though she may not have a thing to do with it.

She is responsible for ethics reform in Alaska.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Kade, you just might vote Obama to the degree i may vote for Ralph Nader here... possibly! we are
both in the Bay State. in Alaska ol Ted Stevens has hurdled his old boy network self over ONE BIG hurdle.
the other old seniority guy in addition to byrd of w.v is our very own teddy kennedy. he was in our
glorious senate recently and brilliantly voted as he usually does. incidentally he gave a good speech in
denver on day one of the convention. so its either you or i who runs in the G.O.P primary in 2012

acptulsa
08-29-2008, 11:37 AM
Kids aren't props.

With the exception of willing and brainless tools like Jenna Bush and Tagg Romney. Not a majority.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:38 AM
ANY GOOD WORD FROM OLD WALLY HICKEL is a SOUNDBYTE GEM for HER AND JOHN McCAIN!

Indy Vidual
08-29-2008, 11:38 AM
Smart move by McCain. Now the election is much more interesting.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:41 AM
She is responsible for ethics reform in Alaska.

she is by james michael curley's definition a good government republican... she's a reform minded republican!
james michael curley is edwin o'conner's inspiration for frank skeffington. this isancient almost hioney fitz lore.
frank skeffington's character practially by itself wrote the "LAST HURRAH" --- a movie starring spencer tracy.
the novel's protagonist or hero is the soul of a slightly disquised bio-flic about the legendary purple shamrock.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:47 AM
She would probably be harmless... but she is
also useless. A tool, that is allowing herself to be used by the GOP
to potentially secure some extra stray Clintonians.

It's a cheap parlor trick.

she and it all are more than a cheap trick.
she is mccain's answer to hillary's candidacy.

Kade
08-29-2008, 11:48 AM
she and it all are more than a cheap trick.
she is mccain's answer to hillary's candidacy.

Has Palin earned a spot over Hillary... will women buy into that at all? What has she done for anyone? What has she lead, other than a basketball team and a few dogs.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:49 AM
this race has its unexpected twists and turns.
does spitzer's sex scandal deny the dems some votes?
does this move edge the john mccain who lacks an internet
bandwagon machine closer to a finish line??? http://www.johnmccainforum.com/
does he now look LESS like bush's sock puppet? when will mccain go aaarrrrrrrrrrrrggg!

Mckarnin
08-29-2008, 11:49 AM
If you are talking about Feminists for Life...that is a very good non-sectarian, non-partisan, sensible pro-life org.




Because she's a member of a feminist organization?


Palin is a loon. She represents everything Obama's campaign is smearing McCain as.

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:50 AM
Has Palin earned a spot over Hillary... will women
buy into that at all? What has she done for anyone? What has she lead,
other than a basketball team and a few dogs.

did alaska's gov actually watch ellen or oprah? or both?

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:51 AM
what she done did is she won an INTENSE election. she trumps big oil. the big oil guys.

Andrew Ryan
08-29-2008, 11:52 AM
She is...mildly attractive....

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:52 AM
its like as if she's a sharpshooter like ms. annie oakley. she's frontier! thats whuuht the maverick done did... Kade

Aratus
08-29-2008, 11:54 AM
...as mcCain dances out the musical OKLAHOMA, she done is heroically most ANNIE GET YEEER GUN!

Doktor_Jeep
08-29-2008, 11:54 AM
I find it odd that the VP pick is known for fighting corruption in the Republican party when, those of us where were delegates to state conventions witnessing, McCain is the nominee BECAUSE of corruption in the republican party.

lucius
08-29-2008, 12:04 PM
...Well looks like this is going to be a close race and Mccain might win.


Well, the Jackass and Dumbo conventions to elect candidates for the US Presidency are now underway. We are forced to watch and listen to them a few minutes at a time to keep from getting nauseated by the inane tripe and pathological lies that are being fed to the screaming, sycophant idiots known as the Sheople of the United States of America. It is at times like these that we are ashamed to be called US citizens. The whole system has been rigged for over a century. Both Jackass and Dumbo candidates are picked by the elitists and then stuffed down the throats of the sheople.

From Bob Chapman's 'Debt Threatens The Entire System': http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Debt_Threatens_The_Entire_System

Aratus
08-29-2008, 12:09 PM
I find it odd that the VP pick is known for fighting corruption in the Republican party when, those of us where were delegates to state conventions witnessing, McCain is the nominee BECAUSE of corruption in the republican party.

i'm feeling
older... i heard about
teapot dome from my even older relatives.
i lived thru watergate. i was not pro-nixon... i actually
WANTED wally hickel to win the republican nomination, once...or twice.

Kade
08-29-2008, 12:09 PM
If you are talking about Feminists for Life...that is a very good non-sectarian, non-partisan, sensible pro-life org.

Non-sectarian?

Aratus
08-29-2008, 12:12 PM
Kade... i know... the above "org" aint some feminists under a lifetime sentence... she's alaskan... its still a frontier.

The_Orlonater
08-29-2008, 12:40 PM
I dont kow what to say.

Smart move by McCain, but it might be bad for us who are going to vote 3rd party.

kombayn
08-29-2008, 12:41 PM
I dont kow what to say.

Smart move by McCain, but it might be bad for us who are going to vote 3rd party.

I doubt it. It's bad for the Barr/Root ticket, I don't see it affecting the Nader/Gonzalez ticket at all or the Baldwin/Castle ticket.

The_Orlonater
08-29-2008, 12:43 PM
I doubt it. It's bad for the Barr/Root ticket, I don't see it affecting the Nader/Gonzalez ticket at all or the Baldwin/Castle ticket.

That's the ticket that has the best chance and is clearly the biggest..


AGH!
Goddamn you McCain!

Monolithic
08-29-2008, 12:56 PM
Once onstage, together with Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, Palin talked about what women expect from women leaders; how she took charge in Alaska during a political scandal that threatened to unseat the state's entire Republican power structure, and her feelings about Sen. Hillary Clinton. (She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's "whining.")

ohhhhhhh christ hillary is gonna crucify this girl

ShowMeLiberty
08-29-2008, 01:06 PM
That's the ticket that has the best chance and is clearly the biggest..


AGH!
Goddamn you McCain!

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kombayn
08-29-2008, 01:09 PM
^Yay! Me like funny pictures! BRAHHH!!!

LibertiORDeth
08-29-2008, 02:20 PM
Confirmed? I might have to vote McCain now. She's hot.

I was actually discussing this with someone earlier. I google'd her and after seeing her picture one word came to my mind.
MILF.
:cool:

Kade
08-29-2008, 02:22 PM
She is the governor of a state that is younger than John McCain, but older than his wife.

Publicity stunt.

Gimmick.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
08-29-2008, 02:24 PM
She is the governor of a state that is younger than John McCain

You are pretty old when you can remember when we had less than 50 states

JosephTheLibertarian
08-29-2008, 02:27 PM
Sarah Palin: I am opposed to any expansion of gambling in Alaska.

0zzy
08-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Sarah Palin: I am opposed to any expansion of gambling in Alaska.

So? She's not perfect. I still find her a great candidate compared to everyone else. She is very conservative, and I don't mind that. Ethics, corruption, small government, peace and freedom. She has a lot of those, maybe not peace anymore though sadly :[. She did oppose the Real ID act though, promising.

Hopefully if McCain is elected he leaves office early and she takes over and is peaceful abroad. I can dream can't I?

James Madison
08-29-2008, 02:54 PM
She is the governor of a state that is younger than John McCain, but older than his wife.

Publicity stunt.

Gimmick.

For the first time I think I agree with you, Kade.

She's the republicans answer to Obama.

JosephTheLibertarian
08-29-2008, 03:18 PM
So? She's not perfect. I still find her a great candidate compared to everyone else. She is very conservative, and I don't mind that. Ethics, corruption, small government, peace and freedom. She has a lot of those, maybe not peace anymore though sadly :[. She did oppose the Real ID act though, promising.

Hopefully if McCain is elected he leaves office early and she takes over and is peaceful abroad. I can dream can't I?

Sarah Palin: Fully fund K-12 and support early funding of education.

that's not small government.

Sarah Palin: Fund the Seniors Longevity Bonus Program.

more big government

pro-lifee, believes that marriage is only for a man and woman. That's ANTI-libertarian!!

ontheissues.org says:

Sarah Palin is a Moderate Populist Conservative

Theocrat
08-29-2008, 04:26 PM
John McCain's choice for Sarah Palin as his running mate is further proof against Kade's theory (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1632471#post1632471) which implies that the Republican Party is somehow against women being involved in leadership positions in society.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
08-29-2008, 04:27 PM
John McCain's choice for Sarah Palin as his running mate is further proof against Kade's theory (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1632471#post1632471) which implies that the Republican Party is somehow against women being involved in leadership positions in society.

Its really more political exploitation

Acala
08-29-2008, 04:50 PM
It is a brilliant political move. She will bring in some of the disenfranchised vagina vote (those who vote for ANY woman because of her genitals - and there are MANY of them). She will appease some of the conservative bible thumpers. She will shore up the Western states because she is a westerner with a capital "W". She will add to the phony McCain "Maverick" mystique. And she will even draw in a few Ron Paul Republicans because she said nice things about Ron Paul. And it doesn't hurt that she is attractive and interesting as a person.

Of course I assume that she had to sell her soul to get this appointment. But what if she didn't? Everyone thinks that VP is just an accessory, and usually that is the case . Not in the current administration, but usually.

But McCain is not exactly Mr. Healthy. Would anyone really be surprised if he cashed it in during his term?

Then it would not be just a parlor trick.

tmosley
08-29-2008, 05:02 PM
Sarah Palin: Fully fund K-12 and support early funding of education.

that's not small government.

Sarah Palin: Fund the Seniors Longevity Bonus Program.

more big government

pro-lifee, believes that marriage is only for a man and woman. That's ANTI-libertarian!!

ontheissues.org says:

Sarah Palin is a Moderate Populist Conservative

Yeah, but those are STATE government initiatives. Having a big state government is much better than having a big FEDERAL one.

JosephTheLibertarian
08-29-2008, 05:06 PM
Yeah, but those are STATE government initiatives. Having a big state government is much better than having a big FEDERAL one.

big government is big government, period. She was never in federal office, but odds are in federal office, she would be doing the same exact things.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 06:17 PM
I was on the fence on voting for Mccain, even to oppose Obama's socialist ambitions, but Palin seals the deal for me.

Cali4RonPaul
08-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Palin is not a neocon and Mccain just bit off more than he can chew
I love it

I agree, Palin is a fiesty little mama!!

I like her!! :D

Andrew-Austin
08-29-2008, 06:18 PM
I was on the fence on voting for Mccain, even to oppose Obama's socialist ambitions, but Palin seals the deal for me.

There you go then: http://johnmccainforum.com/

I'll be thanking you when McCain/Palin reinstates the draft and I'm off to fight the Iranian terrorists.




She will bring in some of the disenfranchised vagina vote (those who vote for ANY woman because of her genitals - and there are MANY of them)

I think I met a couple today, former Obama supporters who converted to the Palin XX chromosome.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 06:20 PM
I knew many people over the years who joined the military, and they all joined for economic reasons.

Palin is rich, or at least well able to afford college. or at least arrange an appointment to West Point. that would at least make some sense. or join ROTC.

but for someone of their class to join as a grunt shows poor judgment on the part of the parents.

Wow, that has to be one of the most elitist statements I think that I read on this forum in a very long time.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 06:23 PM
There you go then: http://johnmccainforum.com/

I'll be thanking you when McCain/Palin reinstates the draft and I'm off to fight the Iranian terrorists.

I'd rather be fighting Iranians than wait for a Democrat controlled Congress passing off socialist "progressive" bills left and right, and Obama sending me to fight in Darfur.

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 06:27 PM
I'd rather be fighting Iranians than wait for a Democrat controlled Congress passing off socialist "progressive" bills left and right, and Obama sending me to fight in Darfur.

that is sad...

why the hell are you falling for the "this person or this person" bullshit?

You would rather fight one war over another? why not fight ZERO FUCKING WARS.

We do have control over our own damn bodies you know, we don't HAVE TO pick up a gun and go fight in other countries.

I think the soldiers need to FINALLY take responsibilities for their own fucking actions and stop blaming it on "we are just doing what we are told to do" because that is simple gang mentality there.

Fucking mccain voters and long term ron paul supporters are becoming one in the same just due to being chicken shits when it comes to obama.

If we are going to crash our economy why not do it AT HOME instead of in other nations?

Andrew-Austin
08-29-2008, 06:27 PM
I'd rather be fighting Iranians than wait for a Democrat controlled Congress passing off socialist "progressive" bills left and right, and Obama sending me to fight in Darfur.

Then don't vote for Obama or McCain. Don't try and influence the government (with your vote) into enslaving us to fight morally bankrupt wars. The lesser of two evils argument is weak bullshit, especially w/ two candidates like McShame and Obomba.

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Then don't vote for Obama or McCain. Don't try and influence the government (with your vote) into enslaving us to fight morally bankrupt wars. The lesser of two evils argument is weak bullshit, especially w/ two candidates like McShame and Obomba.

what is really sad is look at the guys join date, its not like he is new to this shit....

and we bitch at the uninformed Americans and their stupid voting and we have the same bullshit RIGHT HERE and long term members at that.

fedup100
08-29-2008, 06:35 PM
I wanted Paul, but it won't happen. Third party vote will guarantee an O win, and that can't be allowed to happen. I must agree with this post, it says it all in regards to Palin, who will probably have to take the Presidency in the first or second year of McInsane's Presidency.

She likes Paul and worked for Buchanan. She will kick the piss out of Hillary in 2012 cause she is an outsider, hates corruption and could pick Paul as her VP!!

Anyhoo, she is new meat and has no experience which IS her greatest asset. She is a mother and housewife who knows how hard real life is. She can balance a check book and she has common sense. I could take the office tomorrow and I guarantee, I could do this job with my hands tied. I know she can do it.

Hillary and Billary screwed themselves when they looted the peoples house the day they left........



The RNC Just Gutted
The DNC Again
By Karl Schwar
8-29-8


An historic moment happen in America today.
I received a telephone call at 6am Hungary time today, midnight in Washington, DC. I was told to make sure to watch the TV news at 6pm my time today in Europe. My friend would not say why, just told me to make sure I watched...that history was about to be made.
We all have heard the rumors of Zionist Rep. Cantor, or Zionist Sen. Joe Lieberman or Mormon Mitt Romney being named as Vice President to run with McCain on the RNC ticket. Every time I heard such rumors I would say to myself "uh-uh...no way...don't do it."
As a former RNC strategic planner, I can tell you that I am jaw-dropped as to who McCain picked.
Trust me, right now slick-talking, chain-smoking Barky does not want to discuss his Kenya birth certificate and eligibility to be president...because Zionist Barky Hussein Obama is "&%$*@%$!*" and fuming. He and wifey are hair-on-fire, talking in Ebonics while their heads do 360s.


By the way, I, too, thought his acceptance speech and Hollywood setting were still more hallmarks of his well-known arrogance. And that has been the message all over the EU TV channels today: Obama pomp and arrogance...style over substance (what there was of it).
Zbigniew Brzezinski may be in the early stages of a major coronary due to the McCain choice. People all over Europe who thought they wanted Barky are now stunned.
Hillary Clinton must be crapping bricks and Slick is probably using all his toes and fingers to calculate the hammer blow McCain's (or whoever made the call) choice has done to the DNC. Billy Boy is realizing by now that there has been a revolt, a coup d'etat, within the conservative ranks of America. Those TRUE Cnservatives, whether they are Republican or Democrat, will now not vote for Barky (or Hillary) on a bet. More on that below.
Zionist Joe Biden is probably knocking back a stiff drink or three and realizing that he just cannot win for losing. The Biden Bad Luck. If it were not for his bad luck, he would not have any luck at all. Maybe one of these days the DNC types will figure out that REAL Americans are not liberals and they do not want socialism or communism. More on that below, too.
I have written many times about why I walked out on the RNC. The reason, for those who don't know, was because they cut a deal with the Russia-hating DNC Zionist Communist Jews so they could have their big War Party (the fraud Global War on Terror) and dress up as Conservative Neocons. Well, they've left the RNC and are now back at DNC supporting Obama and Brzezinski...and yet more Russia-hating and dissension building.

The big historical political event today occurred when John McCain announced Republican Governor Sarah Palin of the State of Alaska as his Vice Presidential running mate on the November 4th ticket. It was a masterstroke (by someone)...a ten kiloton blast in the faces of the DNC and the liberal rabble pretending to be Americans, and most especially Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton. Yes, the Republicans are running a WOMAN for Vice President of the United States. And this is one remarkable lady. She is literally the early October Surprise of this year's presidential race.
Mark my words, do not be the least bit surprised if you happen to hear about Bush or Rice mumbling about being more behind Obama, Zbig and Biden than the McCain-Palin ticket. What just happened is that big.
Do you remember what the Bush campaign did to McCain in South Carolina in 2000? They treated him more than shabbily and essentially thrust a knife in his back so Junior could grease his way into the Oval Office. Well, it's now payback time and even the Bush Family probably shit their britches over the Palin announcement

today.

I did not realize that John McCain's birthday is today. So, Happy Birthday, John McCain ...but now I must return to continuing to kick the crap out of RNC and McCain until they get it RIGHT.
I do not think John McCain was responsible for the selection of his Sarah Palin...I think we heard the voice of truly Conservative America as it took back the reigns of the RNC and kicked the fascists in the ass. This is a GOOD sign for America...if they keep their hands on the wheel and stay on track. It is not exaggeration to at least consider that the true Conservative power of America just abandoned the Bush-Cheney version of Executive government. I, and many others, could write a book about what a good thing that would be for our country.
The Bush Family has ruined America twice...with the current Oval Office imbecile and, before him, Daddy idiot out chasing their tails and killing millions with their lunatic Zionist New World Order pals.


Many are starting to see Obama for what he is: a Marxist Zionist...a 'black' elitist who...along with his lovely bride...does not like Whitey. He plans to tax America into the grave for a socialist state and still keep pushing his mentor's idiotic and quite DEAD Grand Chessboard Caspian schemes. This policy sellout was a crucial condition of getting big Communist Zionist Jew money behind Barky. This boy is bipolar. An oreo cookie who lives like the cream filling but flashes the chocolate exterior. He is dangerous to the future of America. And Johnny McCain and crew just pulled a quick one on him.
This is the first time in history that the RNC has put forth a woman to be the Vice President of the United States. Hillary must be fit to be put in a straightjacket about now.
Sarah Palin is a legend in fighting corporate and government corruption. This lady will not back down for special interests. She even battled and won against Big Oil trying to come in behind Donald Mr. Corruption Young and carve up Alaska. She has served on the school board, as a mayor, and now as Governor of the single largest, most energy rich state of the union. Read her bio...and prepare to be amazed. The world will be hearing a lot about her from now on.
She is NOT a DC insider as are McCain, Obama and Biden. This lady does not like government corruption, will not tolerate it, and is one tough cookie. She was

a great athlete, team captain, and leader in her school days and is easily the most intelligently beautiful face ever to run for national office. Talk about REAL photo ops...

She is a devoted environmentalist and conservationist...and a pragmatist to the core. It will not take her long to figure out how corrupt DC is and take aim at many of the snakes there. And unlike dry-drunk, nose candy, bisexual Bush, she is a REAL Christian.
Palin is also from a modest background...great credentials in these 'blue blood' times of graft and gangsterism. Her father was a school teacher and her mother the secretary at that school. She is not part of the elitist clique and cabal of DC and has already proven her courage in standing up to them. At 44, she is the youngest governor in Alaska history, the mother of five (5) children, and their oldest, a son, is in the US Army and will be in Iraq starting in September. In fact, he is due to be deployed to Iraq on September 11, 2008. It will not take her or the son long to figure out the lie of the Zionist Bush Global War On Terror.
She is an avid hunter, loves fishing, and is a no-nonsense adult. I guarantee that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are changing diapers frequently right now because the Vice President of the United States is also the President of the U.S. Senate. Sarah Palin will put up with Zero DC Bullshit from the House and Senate.
I have been very, and I mean VERY concerned that the RNC was going to stay on the Bush stuck-on-stupid program...but I think - I hope - the game just changed.
Sarah Palin is a fiscal conservative and a tireless worker for the common good of all. She is totally dedicated to energy independence and recently rammed through a new, crucial $40 billion pipeline from Alaska to the continental United States.
This is a quote from her speech: "The people of America expect us to seek public office and serve America - and the people - for the RIGHT reasons." When this lady speaks she means what she says. She has proven that as governor of Alaska. She puts America first, unlike Obama or Biden.
And perhaps most magnificently, she is not a Zionist.
There is not one man in this November race who is presidential timber. Sarah Palin is. There is nothing average about this lady. She even killed that infamous 'bridge to nowhere' that the Congress authorized for one of its pork projects.
The following is exactly why Obama and Biden are having heartburn and nervous stomachs right now.
This was in Chapter 1 of 'One-Way Ticket to Crawford Texas' and folks, this is the reality of American politics and why the DNC has not been able to get anything done but Mr. Sleaze Bill Clinton since 1980:
<start insert>
Bradley R. Gitz, political professor at Lyon College, Batesville, Arkansas wrote an excellent piece for the Sunday, August 24, 2003 Op-Ed section of the Arkansas Democrat Gazette titled "Anger and ideology". He was expounding on the Democratic National Committee strategy of attempting to run an anti-war candidate against President Bush and one that is a self*proclaimed Liberal Left candidate.
One of the Gitz quotes from that Op-Ed piece follows:
"But the intriguing aspect about watching the Democrats watch Dean resides in some of the bizarre assumptions they make about the American electorate. Some Democrats seem to believe that Americans will not only swallow, but might even be pining for candidates who vehemently opposed the war in Iraq, want to repeal the Bush tax cuts and favor socialized medicine.
Where party strategist and pundits got these notions escapes me, apart from perhaps the growing ideological insularity and solipsism characteristic of the post-modern left.
So let us recite the catechism one more time, beginning with the first law of American presidential politics: No candidate with radical left-of-center views (like Dean) has ever been, or will ever be, elected president. Self-described conservatives outnumber self-described liberals by a margin of at least 2-1 in all polls, with most of the large moderate remainder probably also instinctively listing in the conservative direction."
<end insert>
I personally designed the 1994 strategy that took the House and Senate away from Clinton and wish I had not done so. They did not tell me that they were cutting a deal with the DNC Zionist Jew Communists to create the War Party we have seen since Bush was placed in office.
I have never said it, but the reason Clinton did not start the Global War on Terror after creating the Patriot Act is because the Republican Congress did not trust him, and even the DNC Zionist Jew Communist defectors did not trust him, either. They were under explicit orders that the GWOT was to be Bush's baby. The reason Obama has raised such huge money is because Zionist Jew Communist money is behind him and Zbig all the way. They are the true continuation of the GWOT and any hopes the Bush family has of controlling the Zionist New World Order...which is dying right in front of our eyes with the recent powerful moves by Russia.
Get it?
Sarah Palin just changed the entire political landscape not only of the Presidential campaign but of the general state of America. Assuming voters look past McNutter and embrace Palin with their votes - and make no mistake, she would be THE final reason McKook would win - America may actually find itself on the doorstep of REAL 'change' and hope...for the first time in many decades. If elected, McCain - the man who called for the bombing of Iran and '100 years of war' may find the American public empowering Palin to the extent he will go more placidly into his twilight than had he done with either Zionist Cantor or Liebermann biting at his ass.


The entire Iraq and Afghanistan lunacy is going to have to stop. Meanwhile, the real business of America will be settled over on Capitol Hill and having Sarah Palin there could, finally, start the process of turning the US around. From all I've read and heard, she will not put up with the bullshit from Pelosi or Reid or the Democrat controlled Congress. They ain't her kind of people.
New game now, and Palin represents is the best choice America has to get headed back in the right direction.
'Change' we can believe in from Obama? Bullshit!
The new McCain-Palin motto was rolled out today * 'Country First.' Works for me.


And, lest we forget, we may end up being one heartbeat away from our first woman President...a woman who will command the true respect of the American people...and the world. A kind of respect Mrs. Clinton could only dream about.

Have a good weekend.
Karl

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 06:42 PM
wow she likes ron paul...

well then we should all back her then

lol....

my head hurts.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 06:46 PM
what is really sad is look at the guys join date, its not like he is new to this shit....

and we bitch at the uninformed Americans and their stupid voting and we have the same bullshit RIGHT HERE and long term members at that.

Sorry, but I joined Ron Paul campaign because of many of the old fashioned conservative values he espouses of property rights, limited government, and fiscal responsibility that was not being talked about with the other candidates, I also liked his voting record. I frankly do not care if McCain fires off several missiles at Iranian nuclear sites. I personally do not believe that McCain will do the "Invasion" of Iran like many here are harping about all the time. I COULD be wrong though, but I'll be willing to take that chance than accept a LEFTIST democratic controlled government, with a radical socialist like Obama who will sign everything they pass into law.

You might not see the difference between Obama and McCain, but I Do.

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 06:47 PM
Sorry, but I joined Ron Paul campaign because of many of the old fashioned conservative values he espouses of property rights, limited government, and fiscal responsibility. I frankly do not care if McCain fires off several missiles at Iranian nuclear sites. I personally do not believe that McCain will do the "Invasion" of Iran like many here are harping about all the time. I COULD be wrong though, but I'll be willing to take that chance than accept a LEFTIST democratic controlled government, with a radical socialist like Obama who will sign everything they pass into law.

You might not see the difference between Obama and McCain, but I Do.

Oh I see a huge difference between obama and mccain but am not going to vote for either of them just because I feel ONE is a little better than the other.

What will that accomplish, wow you get to be apart of the 10 million votes for the same exact pieces of shit we DON'T WANT in office, wow what an amazing effort on your part woohoo...

V-rod
08-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Oh I see a huge difference between obama and mccain but am not going to vote for either of them just because I feel ONE is a little better than the other.

What will that accomplish, wow you get to be apart of the 10 million votes for the same exact pieces of shit we DON'T WANT in office, wow what an amazing effort on your part woohoo...

I could stay home and know for 99% chance that McCain will win my red state of Texas, and claim I'm protesting the lesser of two evils, but if I lived in a swing state, I would definitely be voting against Obama, so by not voting it would be a total Cop-out on my part, and in some ways, be hypocritical.

Dieseler
08-29-2008, 07:15 PM
Sorry, but I joined Ron Paul campaign because of many of the old fashioned conservative values he espouses of property rights, limited government, and fiscal responsibility that was not being talked about with the other candidates, I also liked his voting record. I frankly do not care if McCain fires off several missiles at Iranian nuclear sites. I personally do not believe that McCain will do the "Invasion" of Iran like many here are harping about all the time. I COULD be wrong though, but I'll be willing to take that chance than accept a LEFTIST democratic controlled government, with a radical socialist like Obama who will sign everything they pass into law.

You might not see the difference between Obama and McCain, but I Do.

+1000 What he said.
I can't afford that chance either.
As far as Iran goes, I doubt seriously Bush and Cheney are gonna leave that option for the next administration. It will go down before they leave office.
We will have that mess to deal with whoever goes in next. If any of you hardcore Libertarians can get the good Doctor back on a ticket I will swear here and now that I'm still behind him 100%.
If not, well, I know the reason Nader, Barr and whoever else is running, (I like Baldwin) They know they can't win,(spoilers) If they could, well then Dr. Paul would still be in it wouldn't he?
I gotta back McCain just to hedge my bets.

nate895
08-29-2008, 07:22 PM
What amazes me about her is that she went from being a truck driver to being potentially the VPOTUS, in relatively short order.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 07:35 PM
What amazes me about her is that she went from being a truck driver to being potentially the VPOTUS, in relatively short order.

I'm not thrilled about her lack of experience, but those are the times we live in. Our possible potential President Obama was a small fries "community organizer", several years as a State legislator, and 3 years as Senator, which half that time he spent campaigning for President.

Palin was a part time fisherwoman, journalist, city council member, Mayor, and spent couple years running a state, that makes the Vice Presidential candidate of the GOP more qualified than the Presidential candidate of the Democratic Party.

She knows that value of an honest day's work.

nate895
08-29-2008, 07:40 PM
I'm not thrilled about her lack of experience, but those are the times we live in. Our possible potential President Obama was a small fries "community organizer", several years as a State legislator, and 3 years as Senator, which half that time he spent campaigning for President.

Palin was a part time fisherwoman, journalist, city council member, Mayor, and spent couple years running a state, that makes the Vice Presidential candidate of the GOP more qualified than the Presidential candidate of the Democratic Party.

She knows that value of an honest day's work.

I don't understand the "experience" issue. It isn't that hard of a job to do if you just followed the oath.

Dieseler
08-29-2008, 07:55 PM
I don't understand the "experience" issue. It isn't that hard of a job to do if you just followed the oath.

NATE! That is strong man, and so true.
Keep the oath and use the Constitution for reference in tough matters.
Call Dr. Paul if you have any questions. I'm sure he would be honored to help.

V-rod
08-29-2008, 08:25 PM
The Constitution similarly to the Bible, is to guide us, and does not have every answer written on it. Experience is important for the duties of a Commander in Chief.

George Washington had great experience in life that guided him to being a good prez.

nate895
08-29-2008, 08:30 PM
The Constitution similarly to the Bible, is to guide us, and does not have every answer written on it. Experience is important for the duties of a Commander in Chief.

George Washington had great experience in life that guided him to being a good prez.

Q: What is the Prez supposed to do?

A: Check bills for constitutionality, and sign them if they are constitutional and he likes them, negotiate with foreign powers, and execute the laws of the Union. Now mayors of cities with 9,000 people do 2/3, and I'm sure you can negotiate with foreign powers if you are soft spoken enough to make it to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

RonPaulR3VOLUTION
08-29-2008, 09:06 PM
"The last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat." --Chuck Baldwin

Dieseler
08-29-2008, 09:20 PM
"The last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat." --Chuck Baldwin

Well I see who he is working for then.
Ask him what he thinks about a straight up Communist?
Ooo, better yet, ask him how he feels about running interference for one.

VoteForRonPaul
08-29-2008, 10:31 PM
Looks like I will have to vote for Mccain now
:D

White Knight
08-29-2008, 10:32 PM
he just won.

Palin is everything the neo-cons could dream of, and she will bring in the old women with the blue hair that adored Hillary.

You sure about that? She's a former Pat Buchanan supporter, and has made timetable statements about the war. I see her as a bit of a paleo-con. I'm hoping she's like the late GREAT Helen Chenoweth, my favorite woman politician of all-time. She swayed my vote, sorry Bob Barr.

White Knight
08-29-2008, 10:34 PM
What's an anti-gay pro-life big-government Republican who "signed into law the largest operating budget in Alaska's history ($6.6 billion)." called????

Paleo-cons are anti-gay and pro-life too. We just differ because we are anti-UN, anti-Israel, anti-war, anti-government, etc. See Pat Buchanan.

White Knight
08-29-2008, 10:37 PM
you will call her Madam Vice President come Jan 20th.

she is pro-war; otherwise her son would be in college instead of in Iraq with Jimmy McCain.

people join the army for 2 reasons:
1) they believe in the war thing
or
2) they have no money for college

surely the governor of Alaska can afford college for her son, so that leaves #1

There's a third reason. Some are just pro-military and want to be a fighter. Doesn't mean you support this war.

White Knight
08-29-2008, 10:40 PM
Its like a neo-con dream come true.

Plus, if I was an old man, I would totally bang her.

I'm a young man and I still would. She's hot enough but the hunting makes her even hotter.

flair4thegold
08-29-2008, 10:41 PM
There's a third reason. Some are just pro-military and want to be a fighter. Doesn't mean you support this war.

Or maybe he just loves his country and wants to defend it? Yeah, there are some of those still left you know.

As for the pick, Sarah Palin was the best option. Mitt Romney? Come on, he wasn't a staunch conservative. Just about every stance Palin has is on the right side of the issue. While I was uncomfortable with voting for McCain before, now I have no problem. Besides, look at his opponent. Last thing we need is a left wing liberal in the White House.

JosephTheLibertarian
08-29-2008, 10:47 PM
Or maybe he just loves his country and wants to defend it? Yeah, there are some of those still left you know.

As for the pick, Sarah Palin was the best option. Mitt Romney? Come on, he wasn't a staunch conservative. Just about every stance Palin has is on the right side of the issue. While I was uncomfortable with voting for McCain before, now I have no problem. Besides, look at his opponent. Last thing we need is a left wing liberal in the White House.

Last thing we need is WW3. She doesn't oppose the WoD, she wants to expand the DoE and is against gambling.

newyearsrevolution08
08-29-2008, 10:48 PM
Last thing we need is WW3. She doesn't oppose the WoD, she wants to expand the DoE and is against gambling.

but how does she look in a bikini?

we need to ask the serious questions

White Knight
08-29-2008, 11:07 PM
Or maybe he just loves his country and wants to defend it? Yeah, there are some of those still left you know.

As for the pick, Sarah Palin was the best option. Mitt Romney? Come on, he wasn't a staunch conservative. Just about every stance Palin has is on the right side of the issue. While I was uncomfortable with voting for McCain before, now I have no problem. Besides, look at his opponent. Last thing we need is a left wing liberal in the White House.

Agreed 100%. With Obama, you'll get more gun-control, more gay rights, more taxes, more abortion, more affirmative action, etc.

White Knight
08-29-2008, 11:08 PM
but how does she look in a bikini?
A lot better than Obama, McCain, or Biden look in one, and she just had a baby!

DAFTEK
08-29-2008, 11:35 PM
Remember, Remember, The 5th of November!

http://palintology.com/thumbs/palin-paul.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/1970282417_b73516468e.jpg?v=0

Kludge
08-29-2008, 11:37 PM
http://palintology.com/thumbs/palin-paul.jpg

http://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/20071220ronpauldonblack.jpg

V-rod
08-30-2008, 05:17 AM
http://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/20071220ronpauldonblack.jpg

Oh no you din't!


Why does he let his kid dress up as Indiana Jones? Does he have a secret desire for his son to beat his Nazi ass? Poor kid.

By the way, I find it funny that Don Black always has that psychotic look in his eyes.
http://www.vicepresidents.com/files/u41/dblack.jpg

Kludge
08-30-2008, 05:19 AM
Why does he let his kid dress up as Indiana Jones? Does he have a secret desire for his son to beat his Nazi ass? Poor kid.

Jones wears a fedora. Black's kid is wearing a bucket hat or something. Fedoras kick ass, BTW.

V-rod
08-30-2008, 05:21 AM
Jones wears a fedora. Black's kid is wearing a bucket hat or something. Fedoras kick ass, BTW.

Growing up black was pretty hard on Don I guess.


Oh that reminds me, I haven't seen the reactions from the nazi's at Stormfront since Obama became the Messiah Frontrunner. Gonna go check out the sight of all the exploded heads.

Mckarnin
09-02-2008, 06:59 PM
They ascribe to no specific religion as an org.


Non-sectarian?

Andrew Ryan
09-02-2008, 07:03 PM
http://palintology.com/thumbs/palin-paul.jpg
That's a fake!

Aratus
09-03-2008, 07:48 AM
That's a fake!

NOVAscienceNOW went into how you can tell subtle fakes
by the way each mosaic section has its own shadows due
to its seperate time instances of illumination. if she and he
have their shadows and light souces being a solitary source...

DAFTEK
09-03-2008, 08:08 AM
That's a fake!

:rolleyes:
Can you prove it please? I don't know if it is a fake or not but this is where it comes from...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://palintology.com/thumbs/palin-paul.jpg&imgrefurl=http://palintology.com/index.php&h=152&w=280&sz=10&hl=en&start=28&sig2=Y9p328FCDxtUMnBNn_tUUw&um=1&usg=__o-nvJI_4enxGx-U6phpXPmsbe3E=&tbnid=PDi4R7OpsLiGbM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=114&ei=s5q-SJiJDZKUigG6s8yODg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsarah%2Bpalin%2Bron%2Bpaul%26start%3D 18%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26c lient%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Pepsi
09-03-2008, 08:52 AM
A clue why "conservative" Palin is an acceptable VP pick for globalist McCain ?

she is United Nations friendly

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-18166.html

Kade
09-03-2008, 08:56 AM
A clue why "conservative" Palin is an acceptable VP pick for globalist McCain ?

she is United Nations friendly

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-18166.html

Trophy Vice is also very pro-failing business + taxpayer subsidy, ala Matanuska... and she is a great business failure, which possibly means that "third times a charm":

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

DAFTEK
09-03-2008, 04:39 PM
That's a fake!

Aha, it sure is.....:rolleyes:

http://palintology.com/2008/05/15/could-the-libertarians-spoil-alaska-for-the-gop/#more-262

Could the Libertarians Spoil Alaska for the GOP?
May 15, 2008


http://palintology.com/thumbs/palin-paul.jpg
David Weigel for Reason Online:
John McCain isn’t the most popular Republican for Alaskans. On Super Tuesday he placed fourth in the state’s caucus, behind Ron Paul. McCain’s opposed to drilling in ANWR, a real political anomaly for a Republican in this state—even most state Democrats want to start the drills spinning. So I’m not surprised to see that a Research 2000 poll (conducted for Daily Kos) shows McCain leading Barack Obama by only 7 points, 49-42, even though George W. Bush beat John Kerry 61-36. Actually, I think McCain could lose the state. Two reasons.
1) The Republican brand is shattered in Alaska. Gov. Sarah Palin is popular, but she became governor by primary-ing the loathsome Frank Murkowski. Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, both on the ballot this year, are more in the Murkowski mold. And right now they’re both losing to Democrats.

leipo
09-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Definitely a fake. Palin is photoshopped (and poorly at that) in the picture.

Monolithic
09-03-2008, 07:05 PM
yeah it's fake

just look at the lighting on palin compared to paul

Kludge
09-04-2008, 03:34 AM
This one wasn't photoshopped though
http://www.pjvoice.com/v32/pictures/paul.jpg

JosephTheLibertarian
09-04-2008, 06:40 AM
This one wasn't photoshopped though
http://www.pjvoice.com/v32/pictures/paul.jpg

that's you?

DAFTEK
09-04-2008, 06:57 AM
that's you?

Cant be, i picture Kludge like this this! :D

http://www.speakeasydesigns.com/richter/pix/nerd.jpg

JosephTheLibertarian
09-04-2008, 07:04 AM
or maybe this guy haha

http://outyourbackdoor.com/articles2006/pipes/jp.pipe.kludge.jpg

I sure could go for a beer though :p

PatriotG
09-04-2008, 07:05 AM
NOVAscienceNOW went into how you can tell subtle fakes
by the way each mosaic section has its own shadows due
to its seperate time instances of illumination. if she and he
have their shadows and light souces being a solitary source...

Its fake
Look closlely at Palins left arm trailing edge, white borders.
same with hair
That was pasted in there

bad photoshop work.

LittleLightShining
09-04-2008, 07:10 AM
Definitely a fake. Palin is photoshopped (and poorly at that) in the picture.
Ron Paul said he never met Sarah Palin earlier this week on tv. It was either on American Morning or Washington Journal if my memory is correct.

DAFTEK
09-04-2008, 07:23 AM
Ron Paul said he never met Sarah Palin earlier this week on tv. It was either on American Morning or Washington Journal if my memory is correct.

That is true.... American Morning i think...:) Interesting they would fake out a picture thou, i cant tell if its fake or not as i don't play with Sarah's pics much :D