StudentForPaul08
08-28-2008, 01:44 PM
Here is a pretty good article on the similarities between the two candidates, though i think they could be more abstract. :cool:
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - John McCain and Barack Obama share common ground on a surprising selection of issues where the age-old Republican-Democratic divide doesn't cut it anymore.
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Both want the United States to join the campaign against global warming in earnest. Both want to cut taxes for the middle class.
No matter who wins, the moratorium on offshore drilling could well be relaxed, yet both presidential candidates also say no dice to letting oil companies into the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, after years of Republican efforts to open it to drilling.
As much as the candidates would be loathe to admit it, circumstance and the evolution of war policy have even diminished their differences over the course in Iraq.
Call it the McBama agenda, a limited but striking bipartisan convergence. It favors ending the ban on federal money for embryonic stem cell research and embodies only shades of difference over key questions about gay marriage.
To be sure, voters have a real choice to make on Election Day and the national party conventions are devoted to playing up the many differences. Parties, after all, need to be distinct to exist.
For starters, Obama has an ambitious — and expensive — plan to get the country close to universal health coverage and require insurance for children; McCain doesn't. McCain has experience in foreign affairs that Obama lacks. Obama would raise income taxes on wealthy Americans that McCain hopes to leave alone, while the Republican opposes abortion rights that the Democrat favors.
Obama's Senate voting record is largely liberal; McCain's, largely conservative with notable exceptions. And they can be expected to tilt the Supreme Court to their competing ideologies at any opportunity, as well as their many other judicial selections.
Even so, their policy intersections show how the debate has shifted on a variety of long-standing and contemporary issues. More than the usual post-primary drift to the center is at work here.
McCain's well-known tendency to wander from Republican orthodoxy on certain issues inevitably brings him closer to Obama here and there.
The realities of a struggling economy play a part, too. Both once opposed expanded offshore drilling but soaring energy costs have made that position hard to sustain, to a point where McCain supports relaxing the moratorium and Obama is conditionally open to that.
They both come at the war on terrorism with a hard line and the conviction that the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan must be reinforced.
McCain rhetorically promises to follow Osama bin Laden to "the gates of hell;" Obama specifically promises to follow him into Pakistan if necessary, breaching another sovereign nation if that's what it takes to run down high-value terrorist targets.
On Iraq, both men could be credited with prophecy and accused of shortsightedness, each in his own way.
The success of last year's troop escalation in containing the insurgency vindicated McCain's early and frequent call for reinforcements, and Obama has dropped his argument that it was failing.
That very success, if it holds, in turn enhances prospects that Obama as president could carry out his plan to withdraw from Iraq methodically over 16 months. McCain has repeatedly criticized Obama's timetable but now even the Bush administration is taking steps in that direction.
On other issues:
_Both say gay marriage should be left to the states and oppose a constitutional amendment to ban it. President Bush, in contrast, proposed such a ban but did not push for one. McCain has obliquely endorsed at least some of the rights inherent in gay civil unions while Obama has expressed strong support for those rights. Both say they oppose gay marriage.
_Both oppose a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. Otherwise, they diverge on abortion rights.
_The argument that manmade global warming is a concoction was pushed farther toward the fringes with McCain's nomination.
McCain has been among the strongest voices in Congress for aggressive action. Unlike several of his GOP primary rivals and Bush, he supports mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, and Obama joined him in the Senate in an effort to achieve that goal.
They are both advocating a cap and trade system that would force companies that cannot meet targets to pay for the right to pollute, all under tightening national emission requirements. Obama favors cutting carbon dioxide emissions 80 percent by 2050; McCain, 60 percent by then.
Both also support tougher fuel efficiency standards.
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - John McCain and Barack Obama share common ground on a surprising selection of issues where the age-old Republican-Democratic divide doesn't cut it anymore.
ADVERTISEMENT
Both want the United States to join the campaign against global warming in earnest. Both want to cut taxes for the middle class.
No matter who wins, the moratorium on offshore drilling could well be relaxed, yet both presidential candidates also say no dice to letting oil companies into the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, after years of Republican efforts to open it to drilling.
As much as the candidates would be loathe to admit it, circumstance and the evolution of war policy have even diminished their differences over the course in Iraq.
Call it the McBama agenda, a limited but striking bipartisan convergence. It favors ending the ban on federal money for embryonic stem cell research and embodies only shades of difference over key questions about gay marriage.
To be sure, voters have a real choice to make on Election Day and the national party conventions are devoted to playing up the many differences. Parties, after all, need to be distinct to exist.
For starters, Obama has an ambitious — and expensive — plan to get the country close to universal health coverage and require insurance for children; McCain doesn't. McCain has experience in foreign affairs that Obama lacks. Obama would raise income taxes on wealthy Americans that McCain hopes to leave alone, while the Republican opposes abortion rights that the Democrat favors.
Obama's Senate voting record is largely liberal; McCain's, largely conservative with notable exceptions. And they can be expected to tilt the Supreme Court to their competing ideologies at any opportunity, as well as their many other judicial selections.
Even so, their policy intersections show how the debate has shifted on a variety of long-standing and contemporary issues. More than the usual post-primary drift to the center is at work here.
McCain's well-known tendency to wander from Republican orthodoxy on certain issues inevitably brings him closer to Obama here and there.
The realities of a struggling economy play a part, too. Both once opposed expanded offshore drilling but soaring energy costs have made that position hard to sustain, to a point where McCain supports relaxing the moratorium and Obama is conditionally open to that.
They both come at the war on terrorism with a hard line and the conviction that the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan must be reinforced.
McCain rhetorically promises to follow Osama bin Laden to "the gates of hell;" Obama specifically promises to follow him into Pakistan if necessary, breaching another sovereign nation if that's what it takes to run down high-value terrorist targets.
On Iraq, both men could be credited with prophecy and accused of shortsightedness, each in his own way.
The success of last year's troop escalation in containing the insurgency vindicated McCain's early and frequent call for reinforcements, and Obama has dropped his argument that it was failing.
That very success, if it holds, in turn enhances prospects that Obama as president could carry out his plan to withdraw from Iraq methodically over 16 months. McCain has repeatedly criticized Obama's timetable but now even the Bush administration is taking steps in that direction.
On other issues:
_Both say gay marriage should be left to the states and oppose a constitutional amendment to ban it. President Bush, in contrast, proposed such a ban but did not push for one. McCain has obliquely endorsed at least some of the rights inherent in gay civil unions while Obama has expressed strong support for those rights. Both say they oppose gay marriage.
_Both oppose a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. Otherwise, they diverge on abortion rights.
_The argument that manmade global warming is a concoction was pushed farther toward the fringes with McCain's nomination.
McCain has been among the strongest voices in Congress for aggressive action. Unlike several of his GOP primary rivals and Bush, he supports mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, and Obama joined him in the Senate in an effort to achieve that goal.
They are both advocating a cap and trade system that would force companies that cannot meet targets to pay for the right to pollute, all under tightening national emission requirements. Obama favors cutting carbon dioxide emissions 80 percent by 2050; McCain, 60 percent by then.
Both also support tougher fuel efficiency standards.