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Conza88
08-28-2008, 06:49 AM
If you go to CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com) they are running...


World »
* Russia fails to win support of Asian alliance (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/28/russia.georgia.cold.war/index.html)

And if you go to The Russian News and Information Agency (http://en.rian.ru/)

They are running the story...


China, Central Asian states back Russian role in Georgia conflict (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080828/116345088.html)
[ 14:58 ] China and the other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) voiced their support on Thursday for Russia's actions in Georgia and South Ossetia following the recent conflict.

At the same time.... !! :eek:

Edit: Credit goes to a friend for bringing it to my attention. :)

Conza88
08-28-2008, 06:54 AM
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China, Central Asian states back Russian role in Georgia conflict
14:58 | 28/ 08/ 2008


DUSHANBE, August 28 (RIA Novosti) - China and the other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) voiced their support on Thursday for Russia's actions in Georgia and South Ossetia following the recent conflict.

However, the Asian countries stopped short of backing Russia's move to recognize the independence of the breakaway province, along with Georgia's other rebel region, Abkhazia.

"The leaders of the SCO member states welcome the signing in Moscow of the six principles for regulating the South Ossetia conflict, and support Russia's active role in assisting peace and cooperation in this region," a joint declaration adopted at the SCO summit in Tajikistan said.

The security bloc, seen as a counterweight to NATO's influence in Eurasia, comprises China, Russia, and four Central Asian states - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.

Western powers have warned Russia that it faces "international isolation" over its continued security presence in Georgia, three weeks on from Tbilisi's attack on South Ossetia, and over its recognition of the two provinces.

The six leaders called for peaceful dialogue to resolve ongoing tensions.

"The SCO member states are deeply concerned over tensions around the South Ossetian issue, and call on all sides concerned to peacefully resolve existing problems through dialogue," the declaration said.

The meeting of the regional bloc comes a day after the foreign ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States and Britain adopted a statement condemning Russia's peacekeeping presence in Georgia and its recognition of the rebel regions.

President Dmitry Medvedev said recognition was necessary to protect the republics from Georgian acts of aggression, following the August 8 military offensive in South Ossetia.

Medvedev had urged the leaders at the summit in the Tajik capital, Dushanbe, to support Russia's role in Georgia, in order to "send a serious signal to those who are trying to justify the aggression that was committed."

He also criticized the role of Western powers in the conflict.

"It is well known who connived with the Georgian authorities and even goaded them on, in pursuit of their own selfish goals. In these extreme conditions, we stayed calm and continued a responsible and predictable line of policy," he said.

The Russian leader, whose country will now take over the presidency of the SCO from Tajikistan, said that the recent conflict has increased the importance of the bloc as a guarantor of regional security and stability.

"The importance of this task has now grown. To achieve it, we must avoid confrontational thinking, while strictly keeping to the principles of international law."

Medvedev met earlier in the day with Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev for one-on-one talks.

Nazarbayev voiced his country's support for Russia's operation to force Georgia to peace, and condemned Georgia's attack on the South Ossetian capital.

"The West has ignored the attack by the Georgian military on Tskhinvali. I believe that is how it all started," he told Medvedev.

"We all believe that the subsequent actions by Russia were aimed at protecting this long-suffering people," Nazarbayev said.

At the SCO summit's final meeting, Medvedev announced that next summit will be held in the second half of June 2009, in the Russian Urals city of Yekaterinburg.

Conza88
08-28-2008, 06:57 AM
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(CNN) -- Russia's hopes of winning international support for its actions in Georgia were dashed Thursday, when China and other Asian nations expressed concern about mounting tensions in the region.

The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, or SCO, which includes China, Russia, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan, said the countries hoped any further conflict could be resolved peacefully through dialogue.

"The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity," the declaration said, The Associated Press reported.

"Placing the emphasis exclusively on the use of force has no prospects and hinders a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts," AP reported the group as saying.

Russia had appealed to the SCO alliance to support its actions in Georgia.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev sought their support at a summit Thursday in the Central Asian nation of Tajikistan.

Medvedev told the group support for Russia would serve as a "serious signal for those who are trying to justify the aggression."

Russia is trying to counterbalance mounting pressure from the West over its military action in Georgia and its recognition of two breakaway regions -- Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

On Wednesday a U.S. ship carrying aid docked in Georgia, while Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband traveled to the Ukraine, which is worried about Russia's intentions in the region, to offer the UK's support. Video Watch more on rising tensions »

Miliband equated Moscow's offensive in Georgia with the Soviet tanks that invaded Czechoslovakia to crush the Prague Spring democratic reforms in 1968, and demanded Russia "change course," AP reported.

"The sight of Russian tanks in a neighboring country on the 40th anniversary of the crushing of the Prague Spring has shown that the temptations of power politics remain," Miliband said.

Russia, however, has continued to defend its recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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Russian military entered Georgia proper from the provinces in early August after Georgian troops attacked separatists in South Ossetia. Russia called it an extension of their peacekeeping duties. The West and Georgia called it an invasion.

Medvedev said recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia "was not a step taken lightly, or without full consideration of the consequences."

In an op-ed that appeared on The Financial Times Web site, he said Georgia was fighting a "vicious war on its minority nations." Video Watch Medvedev explain his reasoning to CNN »

Russia and the Caucasus region are jumbles of nationalities and, Medvedev said "relations between nations living 'under one roof' need to be handled with the utmost sensitivity."

He said after communism fell, Russia "reconciled itself to the 'loss' of 14 former Soviet republics, which became states in their own right" and observed that around 25 million ethnic Russians "were left stranded in countries no longer their own."

One of those former Soviet republics is Georgia, which "immediately stripped its 'autonomous regions' of Abkhazia and South Ossetia of their autonomy," he said.

He said Russia had enforced peace but "fears and aspirations of the South Ossetian and Abkhazian peoples" lingered because Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili talked of rearming his troops and "reclaiming 'Georgian territory.'"

Medvedev said the West ignored "the delicacy of the situation."
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South Ossetia and Abkhazia broke away from Georgia during civil wars in the 1990s. Russia strengthened ties with them after the U.S. and much of Europe recognized the independence of the Serbian province of Kosovo earlier this year, a move that Moscow had warned against.

The Bush administration has insisted that both Abkhazia and South Ossetia remain part of Georgia, a U.S. ally that is seeking NATO membership.

gilliganscorner
08-28-2008, 06:59 AM
Sounds like the black op wasn't planned right. Central planning has been informed. :eek:

rpfan2008
08-28-2008, 07:00 AM
shameful :o

gilliganscorner
08-28-2008, 07:04 AM
You're right, Conza:

From AFP:

Russia wins backing from China, Central Asia over Georgia

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hkAsQddui_JobZteZrJ-_G9q_hLw

Mahkato
08-28-2008, 07:25 AM
Maybe CNN was talking about the other Georgia. :)

Roxi
08-28-2008, 07:27 AM
maybe cnn was talking about the other georgia. :)


lmao

Kade
08-28-2008, 08:00 AM
NPR talked directly to Francisco Ou, and he made it pretty clear, in English, that China does not support Russia.

Conza88
08-28-2008, 08:08 AM
NPR talked directly to Francisco Ou, and he made it pretty clear, in English, that China does not support Russia.

Someones lieing... that much is evident. Both are spinning for their local populaces...

Francisco H.L. Ou (Chinese: 歐鴻鍊; born January 5, 1940) is the current Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of China, serving under President Ma Ying-Jeou.

He's OBVIOUSLY not stupid enough to tell a US radio station, that they are supporting Russia. :rolleyes:

Or.. is it you think he is above lieing for his country?

Everyone's lieing to everyone.. the people that is. :rolleyes:

Zippyjuan
08-28-2008, 01:26 PM
I may be just expressing my own opinion, but I think that the Chinese did not aprove of Georgia first going into South Ossetia and that Russia may not have been out of line to aid South Ossetia but they are concerned that Russia did not stop there but instead moved far into Georgian territory and occupied other areas of it. China probably did not condemn the actions of Russia in South Ossetia but did not condone any further actions. This allows both Russia to say they have support of China and the West to say that China did nto support Russian actions in the region.

China also does not suport recognition of any breakaway provinces since they have their own problems in this area (Xinjiang, Tibet).

Kade
08-28-2008, 01:58 PM
Why would China recognize breakaway provinces? Common sense says they most certainly do not back Russia.

SLSteven
08-28-2008, 04:29 PM
There are two lies to every story...

Conza88
08-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Why would China recognize breakaway provinces? Common sense says they most certainly do not back Russia.

Hypocrisy never stopped anyone from backing someone.... AHhh hello... :rolleyes: lol

Common sense - isn't so common. ESPECIALLY from those in power.