Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater Jr. to be on the ballot in LA

[Shotdown1027]

They arent on YET, but we are now collecting electors forms for this very important project. A final decision has been made to place Paul/Goldwater Jr. on the ballot in LA!

Remember, this is a deep red state that hates McCain. It is a state that has an appreciation for Barry Goldwater and where we almost won the GOP Caucus. If you are interested in helping us in the effort---we need $500 for a filing fee. You can email me at Shotdown1027@yahoo.com if you are able to help in any way (including website creation and management).

[torchbearer]

You have 8 days left to file i think... what else do you need to accomplish this task?
Make a list we can knock off quickly before i leave for minnesota.
I'd like the louisiana delegation to have something to offer Ron while we are there.

[heath.whiteaker]

sent email.

[torchbearer]

I know a couple of people in the 4th district, one guy i may be able to sign an electors form, but i don't even think he's registered to vote. do you have to be a registered voter to be an elector?

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

We need an elector in District 4. We have some bites there,but nothing solid.

We also need $500 for a filing fee. This, of course, is the harder part. Everyone is broke after the Paul campaign.

Oh--and please do tell Ron Paul. Email me your phone number and i'll call you when we turn in the paperwork and filing fee. Someone should mention it to Rep. Goldwater too. Neither was asked,and neither has encouraged this action--and I wouldnt have it any other way. A Drafted candidate is a reluctant candidate and probably someone who doesnt WANT the power.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

I do believe you need to be registered to vote...though you can be registered anything from Democrat, to independent, to republican, to third-party. In fact, we'd like to have a Democratic elector.

[torchbearer]

Brent,

I do believe you need to be registered to vote...though you can be registered anything from Democrat, to independent, to republican, to third-party. In fact, we'd like to have a Democratic elector.

The only other guy I know who would do it is a professor at NSU and i'm not sure if they would consider that a conflict of interest since he is a state employee.

[torchbearer]

An Idea- If/when we pull this off, It may be possible to get some grassroots commercials made, and money raised to have state wide advertising to get people to vote for the ticket.
I could even see yard signs made for it. I'd put one up for sure.

[torchbearer]

So all you have left is a 4th district elector and $500?

http://www.cqpolitics.com/cqimages/moneyline/district-maps/LA04.gif

[Shotdown1027]

Yep,we have firm committments in every other district.

As for the money,we're hoping the RPF and facebook group can put it together,or that a big donor calls,lol. Because NONE of us can afford it.

[torchbearer]

Yep,we have firm committments in every other district.

As for the money,we're hoping the RPF and facebook group can put it together,or that a big donor calls,lol. Because NONE of us can afford it.

PMed you some possible 4th district electors.

If you have a paypal account, set up a chipin, I can help keep it bumped up.
I think between everyone we can scrap $500 to get Ron on the ballot and keep him in the news throughout november.

[torchbearer]

//

[Shotdown1027]

Someone has offered to set up a VERY nice website for us too. Im excited about how things are moving.

[Shotdown1027]

bumpity

[Sandra]

bump!

[torchbearer]

I sent out an email to everyone on my mailing list.
4th district has always been a dead spot for the LALP. Never could find any liberty activist in that area.
The people I sent via PM would be my biggest leads right now, I suggest hunting them down and asking them.
Have everyone you know forward the message on to others on their mailing list.

[torchbearer]

Sample Letter:

Some of you may have heard that there is a group out there trying to put Ron Paul/ Barry Goldwater on the presidential ballot here in Louisiana. Well, they've almost finished collecting elector candidate but they still need someone from the 4th district. We need one of you to become an elector for Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater. All that is required is signing some forms and getting them notarized,and $55.

We will also need to collect $500 for a filing fee. I'm not heading up this project, but i told that guy who is that i would ask everyone I know for there help.
We have until Sept. 2.

So- Please contact me if you can help in anyway. I will get you in touch with the guy leading this effort.

1. need 4th District elector, Northwest corner of the state- all the way down pass toledo bend.
2. need people who can chipin to help reach $500




For the subject line, I used the title of this thread.

[torchbearer]

Already have one email response for a contribution. I'm sending him your way shotdown.
I've got service calls until around 3pm, hopefully i will have some more good news when i get back.

Everyone should be searching for contributors and electors!

[torchbearer]

Got my second response! but I really need to head out or I'll be late!
This is exciting! I wish I could organize politcal efforts full time.

[Shotdown1027]

We have found our 4th district elector! All that is left is the $500 filing fee!

[torchbearer]

We have found our 4th district elector! All that is left is the $500 filing fee!

I've given two donors your email address this morning (within 30 minutes of sending out a call for help!).
They asked me to send them a chipin link, but i don't have one.
You need to get this link up soon.

Do you know how to get it started? Do you have a paypal account?
Can someone help in this while i'm gone today?

[hopeforamerica]

We have found our 4th district elector! All that is left is the $500 filing fee!

Start a chipin pronto!

[heath.whiteaker]

i've got a site ready, waiting on him for content. Then we can add the chipin.

[Sandra]

i've got a site ready, waiting on him for content. Then we can add the chipin.


Way to go!:D

[Sandra]

Brent I can't email meetup 1210 anymore, there's a new organizer and emailing is no longer open to all.

[brandon]

They asked me to send them a chipin link, but i don't have one.
You need to get this link up soon.

Do you know how to get it started? Do you have a paypal account?
Can someone help in this while i'm gone today?



If you only have 8 days left, you need to find someone with an established paypal account who can front the money. After starting a paypal account it takes about 5 days to validate your bank account, and then when you want to transfer funds out that is an additional 3-5 days.

If I was in LA I would just pay the whole thing out of my pocket. $500 isn't that much and shouldn't be hard to find.

[heath.whiteaker]

http://www.lataxpayers.com This is just the coming soon page until homey supplies me content.

[SnappleLlama]

I'm all about a donation. What do I need to do??

[Shotdown1027]

Unfortunately, he is right about the paypal account. Any money that comes through that will be useless for about 5 days,long after I need it in-hand. If you want to donate,the easiest thing to do is to just mail me a check (made to cash so it doesnt have to "clear") or cash. If you need the mailing address,send me an email or PM and i'd be happy to supply it. If we can find someone to front the cash, your money will be returned or used for our efforts in another way (with you choosing which one)

[heath.whiteaker]

we can get a paypal account working... If I need to I will even do the chip in.

[RP4EVER]

What about Money Orders; will they work?

[Shotdown1027]

Money orders will work also, yes.

Heath,please do try to set up a chip-in. I know im slow on getting the content to you, but I'm trying to iron out some last minute details with the paperwork.

[Andrew Ryan]

This is exciting :D

[Shotdown1027]

Isnt it?

[RP4EVER]

PM me an adress; I have a $25 money order right here beside me. Ill fill it out and send it first thing tomorrow morning.

This is a challenge to all. Post here when you donate $25 or more

[Shotdown1027]

All donations are welcome, we ARE having trouble coming up with this money. and if you're GOING to donate, I'd need the money by Friday which means it MUST be in the mail by tomorrow.

[Sandra]

Trent, do you have an Paypal account?

I think this will be project that everybody will be watching.

[Shotdown1027]

I have no paypal account.

[torchbearer]

we can get a paypal account working... If I need to I will even do the chip in.

I have a paypal account, but i'll be leaving friday morning for minnesota, i won't be around to help pay for it.
A chipin would be the quickest way to get the money. Plus we would know how close we are to our goal.
we can't let this fail. we need to be sure to have enough for filing.
There is no one in 1210 that has a paypal already setup that lives in baton rouge?

[torchbearer]

Ok, a 1210 guy Robert Gaffney now has a chipin link: http://lapaulballot.chipin.com/la-paulgoldwater-ballot

[torchbearer]

Ok, a 1210 guy Robert Gaffney now has a chipin link: http://lapaulballot.chipin.com/la-paulgoldwater-ballot

Maybe Josh or Brian could give this chipin a front page spot for a couple of days?

[dannno]

Maybe Josh or Brian could give this chipin a front page spot for a couple of days?

+1

[dannno]

Chipin is up, DONATE:


http://lapaulballot.chipin.com/la-paulgoldwater-ballot

[torchbearer]

If we can get Ron on the ballot here, we can really think about doing a money bomb with maybe AdamT's PAC and cover louisiana in TV ads.
If we can cause McCain to loose this state, that would be an appropriate slap back to the state LAGOP leadership that cheated us from our victory at the caucus.

And if Ron wins this state, he will hold 9 electorial votes which may decide who becomes president. He could used those votes as leverage to get a cabinet position, or to have the opportunity to appoint on the cabinet positions. Maybe even Treasury Sec.

[heath.whiteaker]

I'm the first.... YAY.... Sent $20

[Shotdown1027]

Heath, I should have the content for the website to you within 1-2 hours.

[Sandra]

Will the Chipin be able to release the funds this week?

[Shotdown1027]

Sandra,

The Chipin has been created by a local person, who is agreeing that if he gets 500 in the chipin, he'll front the money to me.

So basically--yes.

[meambobbo]

Hey, I got the chipin going. I'm going to front the money if we look on pace to get $500. The progress widgit that you see is delayed. We already have incoming funds.

Here is a friends' site that I hope to put a better background on:
http://www.lattieink.com/wip/chipin/chipin.html

or we could put it on the lataxpayers.com site. If the site host has the time, copy the widgit code from the above site and paste it in the html code.

Thanks, everyone.

[heath.whiteaker]

posted it at lataxpayers.com

[meambobbo]

here is the direct link to chipin's site:

http://lapaulballot.chipin.com/la-paulgoldwater-ballot

i will eat any paypal fees. and as long as we show a good pace to get the total within a week or two, i will front it all now. if not, everyone will be refunded.

[heath.whiteaker]

Heath, I should have the content for the website to you within 1-2 hours.

No problem I'm ready when you are. I have posted the chipin widget at the coming soon site just for the time being.

http://www.lataxpayers.com

[Sandra]

$25 ! Wish I had more!

[meambobbo]

Thanks, Heath. Great look to the site also.

[Sandra]

Torchbearer! Could you contact the meetups with the chipin link? Most members' email capabilities have been stopped.

[torchbearer]

Torchbearer! Could you contact the meetups with the chipin link? Most members' email capabilities have been stopped.

I already did!

[heath.whiteaker]

Thanks, Heath. Great look to the site also.

LOL. Thats just the coming soon page. I'm waiting on content. Can't believe we are up to $65 already and this thing is just a few minutes old.

[torchbearer]

I wish I had the time to make a few Paul/Goldwater signs to bring to the rally. :)

[Sandra]

I already did!

WOOHOO!!! I just got it! I'm hoping we get it by midnight! I'll be really watching it after 5:00.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

If you dont have the time, spread the idea..maybe someone else will make up some Paul/Goldwater signs!

[Shotdown1027]

Alex C. Bella from the Ron Paul Student group donated $100. A full 20%.

[heath.whiteaker]

Alex C. Bella from the Ron Paul Student group donated $100. A full 20%.

dang ballers.

[dannno]

I put in $40, should be about half way there..

[Shotdown1027]

39%, not bad for a half-hours work,lol.

[Sandra]

47%!

[meambobbo]

holy crap - 100%!!!!

THANKS TO ALL CONTRIBUTORS. Now, we can vote for our constitution's true, never-faltering champion.

[Shotdown1027]

I still only see 39%...

[meambobbo]

my email and chipin account says its done. it may take a while to post. We finished off with a massive $265 contribution.

[Sandra]

You have to close the chipin window and reclick on the link.

[Menthol Patch]

Cool! Ron Paul will be on the ballot somewhere!

[Menthol Patch]

Lets go all out to make sure he wins this state!

[Sandra]

Now for signs and precinct work! But wait! does Goldwater know he's being drafted into the VP position? Maybe we should keep it a secret from him, and if he wins we could show up at his door in Publisher's Clearinghouse style to let him know Louisiana voted him into the Vice Presidency. :D

[Shotdown1027]

Goldwater DOESNT know he is the VP, at least we dont think. We did not contact him about it or vice versa. There is an outside chance that Goldwater may not want this to happen....if so..we'll see what happens.

[Sandra]

Around here, if given the choice between Paul/ Goldwater Jr and McCain/whoever, McCain won't do so well. Obama is winning the GOP here.

[Shotdown1027]

Certainly McCain is not popular in Louisiana. Im hoping for Paul to catch 5%.

[Sandra]

I hope we don't have to slap him into submission. :cool:

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Great news. Anybody know of any other states like this, where one need only pay fees or collect a few signatures for ballot access (without the candidate agreeing to be on the ballot)? It would be interesting to know if Minnesota is like this. We could easily collect the 2,000 signatures needed from MN voters at the Rally for the Republic next week.

[torchbearer]

If I had a good design, i could run to the local print shop to see about getting a few printed on the plastic sign boards.

[torchbearer]

Oh- and we will need to prepare a press release to go out to the state media after the electors slate has been filed.
I hope everyone gets their paper work done properly and quickly.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

I write press releases and such for a living, so I'm going to take care of that. Im willing to bet we'll get a few bites.

[Shotdown1027]

There are a number of states where the deadline for independent candidates has not passed yet. Minnesota IS one of those states, along with Alabama, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin.

Can you tell i'v done my homework? :)

[heath.whiteaker]

can I do this in Florida?

[RP4EVER]

Please people.....lets make this a serious run on one state. Spliting what funds we have will not do any good; make a serious run on Louisiana

[heath.whiteaker]

If I had a good design, i could run to the local print shop to see about getting a few printed on the plastic sign boards.

ahh... a good place for post cards and things is zooprintingtrade.com I am getting 1,000 business cards FULL Color for $15 and that is with UV coat. I'll see if I can't whip something up.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

There are a number of states where the deadline for independent candidates has not passed yet. Minnesota IS one of those states, along with Alabama, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin.

Can you tell i'v done my homework? :)

Very good. Is it the same sort of thing as Louisiana and West Virginia where the candidates don't have to sign off on being on the ballot?

Ron Paul would be worth running in MN in the hope he would get 5% or more to form a new party. The Libertarians and Constitution Party here are small and disorganized. If we could form a new Constitutionalist party, we really might be able to do something here (and put additional pressure on the MNGOP). Minnesota is relatively fair if a party's considered a "major" party (gets the 5% or more in elections for automatic ballot status). I recall a time in the early 2000s when the Democrats, Republicans, Greens, and Independence Party were all over 5% and each had their candidates in debates for Governor, Senate, etc.

[torchbearer]

Very good. Is it the same sort of thing as Louisiana and West Virginia where the candidates don't have to sign off on being on the ballot?

Ron Paul would be worth running in MN in the hope he would get 5% or more to form a new party. The Libertarians and Constitution Party here are small and disorganized. If we could form a new Constitutionalist party, we really might be able to do something here (and put additional pressure on the MNGOP). Minnesota is relatively fair if a party's considered a "major" party (gets the 5% or more in elections for automatic ballot status). I recall a time in the early 2000s when the Democrats, Republicans, Greens, and Independence Party were all over 5% and each had their candidates in debates for Governor, Senate, etc.

They should have all your state's qualification information on this website: http://www.sos.state.mn.us/home/index.asp

[torchbearer]

by the way, historic thread.
I love productive threads. This reminds me of the summer of 2007. we were rolling out the projects like a printing press.
My fellow patriots in Louisiana make me proud.

Being that I'm the asst. coordinator for louisiana for the CFL, I'll see what I can do to get some other support for this ballot.

I really hope AdamT is up for helping with money bombs, creating ads, and booking time to advertise the ticket.
I have a connection that would be good in helping get the right ads on the rights stations at the right time. This guy helped bobby jindal in his advertising plans and implentations. (this guy i'm talking about is not a neocon, he is very cool)

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

I figure we can easily attain 1%. With a little help, pushing, and a few radio ads---we could score 5%.

[Shotdown1027]

If we can raise about 2k for radio ads, I'd be satisfied we could poll 5%.

[heath.whiteaker]

this is the reason I love Ron Paul people. You guys don't wait around for things to get done... YOU DO THEM.

[torchbearer]

If we can raise about 2k for radio ads, I'd be satisfied we could poll 5%.

We are ron paul's legion. We can raise more the 2k with a nationwide call for donations to make a huge dent in louisiana.
Especially if it would cost McCain a loss in what was supposed to be an easy win for him.

We should have a money bomb, but only if someone like AdamT would volunteer their time to run it.
Why AdamT? Are you familiar with his past work? Top Quality. Professional. Always gets the job done. Already has a PAC set up, he has done many projects.
And he should be stopping by my place in the middle of september while on the road.

I'd like to set our goal at around $100,000. Dare our people around the country to make a statement using Louisiana.
Hell, if we can pull off funding numbers like we did last year, we can get way more than 5%.

We should schedule a meeting with all that are interested to get all these ideas down and create a plan of action.

[torchbearer]

And speaking of the mighty AdamT, he just posted an update on his latest project: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=151862

[torchbearer]

If we can raise about 2k for radio ads, I'd be satisfied we could poll 5%.

When do you think this will be finalized? I'd like to start getting the info out, but i don't want to do it until the slate is filed.
Do you know anyone who would be interested in being a representative for this state with the CFl who can attend the rally?

[AdamT]

And speaking of the mighty AdamT...

Aww come on now :o

[torchbearer]

Aww come on now :o

He's even humble too :)
You are doing a great job, and i'd trust any of my projects under your direction.

[Sandra]

I'm so proud of you guys!

[heath.whiteaker]

still waiting on content for the web site though... :(

[torchbearer]

still waiting on content for the web site though... :(

bump

[hueylong]

Is this a serious possibility?

[torchbearer]

Is this a serious possibility?

Yeah. We have until Sept 2nd.
We have our electors.
We have our filing fee.
Now we just have to get them all to baton rouge before Sept. 2 at 5pm.
And ron paul/ barry goldwater,jr. will be on our ballot this november.
and McCain can suck the big one.

[rprprs]

Bump. Because this MUST happen.

[torchbearer]

Bump. Because this MUST happen.

All that is left to be done is for shotdown to bring the paperwork to the secretary of state's office with the $500 dollars.
I'm confident he can achieve this.
I would think a press release would be required to get the media attention.
I know I can get some bloggers to run the story. Popular bloggers and news sites like the dead pelican.

[heath.whiteaker]

gambling 911 those guys seem to love rp

[Sandra]

All that is left to be done is for shotdown to bring the paperwork to the secretary of state's office with the $500 dollars.
I'm confident he can achieve this.
I would think a press release would be required to get the media attention.
I know I can get some bloggers to run the story. Popular bloggers and news sites like the dead pelican.

I think Chad would cover it alright.

[torchbearer]

I think Chad would cover it alright.

Chad accepted the position of CFL rep for Baton Rouge. He's a ron paul supporter. And someone I converse with often.
He will reporting on both conventions in MN.

[torchbearer]

Anyone wanna help get some basics down for a press release?
The Who, What, When, WHy, and WHere?

[torchbearer]

Brent,

I write press releases and such for a living, so I'm going to take care of that. Im willing to bet we'll get a few bites.

Don't know how I missed this post. BUt ok. Press Release done.

[Shotdown1027]

Because of the nature of this project, we're going to wait until they ACCEPT our paperwork before we actually send out anything. When we do, it'll hit the blogs first. Ballot-access.org, IndPoliticalReport.com, ThirdPartyWatch.com, LewRockwell.com/blog, and TheDeadPelican.com will all go first. I know the people who run each of those. I suspect next we'll just send the message to every TV, Radio, and Print newspaper in the state. After that, I'll send something to CNN, Fox, The New York Times, etc etc. I think this would make national news.

As for AdamT, I'd love to have our core team sit down with him and hammer out something. And I'd love to raise 100k and put a REAL dent in McCain's totals.

[torchbearer]

Because of the nature of this project, we're going to wait until they ACCEPT our paperwork before we actually send out anything. When we do, it'll hit the blogs first. Ballot-access.org, IndPoliticalReport.com, ThirdPartyWatch.com, LewRockwell.com/blog, and TheDeadPelican.com will all go first. I know the people who run each of those. I suspect next we'll just send the message to every TV, Radio, and Print newspaper in the state. After that, I'll send something to CNN, Fox, The New York Times, etc etc. I think this would make national news.

As for AdamT, I'd love to have our core team sit down with him and hammer out something. And I'd love to raise 100k and put a REAL dent in McCain's totals.

AdamT will be in Louisiana during the middle of Sept.
Plans are for him to be staying/visiting my residence at that time.
If you wish to meet with him in person at that time, we can arrange that.
Also, the forum is a great place to exchange ideas. I highly recommend AdamT.

[torchbearer]

Do we need to help with content for the website?

[Shotdown1027]

torch,

I sent you a PM, we can talk their about content, and I'd be happy to have your help.

[gls]

This is awesome, but I think someone should make sure it's OK with Goldwater Jr before the papers are filed. He might raise an objection to it; after all he did eventually endorse McCain. That could be a problem if substitution isn't allowed.

If he doesn't want on the ticket, perhaps a Louisiana "Favorite Son" would be in order.

[Shotdown1027]

We're simply hoping Goldwater wont do that. If he does, we expect the SoS to let us do substitution to replace him.

[torchbearer]

This is awesome, but I think someone should make sure it's OK with Goldwater Jr before the papers are filed. He might raise an objection to it; after all he did eventually endorse McCain. That could be a problem if substitution isn't allowed.

If he doesn't want on the ticket, perhaps a Louisiana "Favorite Son" would be in order.

I had recommended John Breaux in an earlier thread that led up to this one.
And I mentioned in that thread the same concern about Goldwater... but thinking about it, i couldn't think of anyone else who would be a sure bet, and if asked, they would say no, but if not asked, would not object.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

I think Gov. Gary Johnson would agree to it. He has nothing to lose, loves Ron Paul, and likes being controversial. However, I couldnt get in contact with him.

Plus--Johnson doesnt add much in the way of votes. Goldwater does.

[torchbearer]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6650/ronpaulgoldwaterpb1.png

Sweet!
can you make that looks good in two colors?

[Shotdown1027]

Pretty amazing.

[torchbearer]

Brent,

I think Gov. Gary Johnson would agree to it. He has nothing to lose, loves Ron Paul, and likes being controversial. However, I couldnt get in contact with him.

Plus--Johnson doesnt add much in the way of votes. Goldwater does.

I think we are good as is... At least we will get to see how connected Goldwater is to the neocons.
If he buckles to their demands, he is nothing but a whore. If he simply doesn't object, but doesn't accept. I can respect that.

[Andrew Ryan]

I'd like it better if it were just Paul/Goldwater.

[torchbearer]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3207/ronpaulgoldwaterny4.png

Can you make the names take up more of the sign, have the waves pushed furthur out and even crop some of it.
I want people driving on a highway to be able to see clearly what the sign says.
This is a yard sign, not web graphic. (subliminal graphic design lecture)

[torchbearer]

I'd like it better if it were just Paul/Goldwater.

This Too.

[muzzled dogg]

can someone please link me the thread that explains wtf yall are tryin to do in louisiana

[Shotdown1027]

Goldwater Sr. was more of an interventionist than Goldwater Jr.

[kombayn]

$500 is not a lot of money for a filing fee. If you can get Ron Paul as a presidential candidate, the grassroots really can takeover from here and push that ticket in Louisiana. Why not at least try. It'd be a good feeler on how the movement went. If Paul got 2% or better with little recognition in Louisiana, that's a great sign for the movement.

[torchbearer]

can someone please link me the thread that explains wtf yall are tryin to do in louisiana

lmfao! this is the thread. though there is an earlier thread the led up to this one, but it doesn't have any new info, only our discussion of the ticket matchup.

[torchbearer]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9636/ronpaulgoldwaterve1.png

I like!!!

edit: can you make ron paul a tad bigger?

[dannno]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9636/ronpaulgoldwaterve1.png

That's a winner, I think..

[Shotdown1027]

Its pretty darn good.

[torchbearer]

$500 is not a lot of money for a filing fee. If you can get Ron Paul as a presidential candidate, the grassroots really can takeover from here and push that ticket in Louisiana. Why not at least try. It'd be a good feeler on how the movement went. If Paul got 2% or better with little recognition in Louisiana, that's a great sign for the movement.

This is exactly what i'm thinking.
We should have a money bomb in september, probably late september, and use that money to flood the state with advertisement.
Imagine if we had all the presidential funds of last year to fund ads all in one state.
We might even could pull off a victory.

Something I learned from advertisement professionals, and have verified through life experience. TV ads makes people think you are legitimate. The more of them you have, the more real of a candidate and choice you become.
That is why money is so important. It buys the psychological effect.

[Shotdown1027]

Hamadeh,

This is perfect.

[torchbearer]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5122/ronpaulgoldwaterjp7.png


This is the sign that will earn the A+ grade in graphics design.
Graphic Design is one of many unofficial minors, but i still know alot about it.

[torchbearer]

One last favor hamadeh, can you save that in a pdf or similar format and email it to me?

[Shotdown1027]

This is exactly what i'm thinking.
We should have a money bomb in september, probably late september, and use that money to flood the state with advertisement.
Imagine if we had all the presidential funds of last year to fund ads all in one state.
We might even could pull off a victory.

Something I learned from advertisement professionals, and have verified through life experience. TV ads makes people think you are legitimate. The more of them you have, the more real of a candidate and choice you become.
That is why money is so important. It buys the psychological effect.

Agreed. If we could buy TV ads, I think 10% is a minimum.

[Kotin]

I love this Ticket.


if this got off the ground.. ahhhhhh!!!

[Andrew Ryan]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5122/ronpaulgoldwaterjp7.png
I think this is the one.

[Shotdown1027]

If AdamT got on board and was helping us plan a moneybomb and radio/tv ad buy--who would donate $100?

[torchbearer]

idk how to pdf it, i can send you original

ok, send me what you have, i'll transfer it to adobe format.
do you still have my email?

[Ninja Homer]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5122/ronpaulgoldwaterjp7.png

Looks good! It should be a cheap print job too, with just a single color printed on white.

[torchbearer]

Looks good! It should be a cheap print job too, with just a single color printed on white.

I like it even better!

[Shotdown1027]

Bedtime for me guys. See you tomorrow.

[Akus]

They arent on YET, but we are now collecting electors forms for this very important project. A final decision has been made to place Paul/Goldwater Jr. on the ballot in LA!

Remember, this is a deep red state that hates McCain. It is a state that has an appreciation for Barry Goldwater and where we almost won the GOP Caucus. If you are interested in helping us in the effort---we need $500 for a filing fee. You can email me at Shotdown1027@yahoo.com if you are able to help in any way (including website creation and management).

can you please explain to me why are you doing this let alone uging us to help you?

If McCain is the final nominee for GOP come after Sept 4, would it matter if it's Obama/McCain/Paul ticket in just one state?

Or is there something I don't understand....

[torchbearer]

can you please explain to me why are you doing this let alone uging us to help you?

If McCain is the final nominee for GOP come after Sept 4, would it matter if it's Obama/McCain/Paul ticket in just one state?

Or is there something I don't understand....

I can't speak for him, but, since we can't get a fair election in this state, even in a small party caucus, this is our best way to teach the leaders of the state GOP some blowback.
If we are successful, we can be responsible for their defeat.
Why is that important?
The only way we will replace them without secure elections is if their lackeys loose confidence in their program.
And if they continually lose... and they no longer have power, their lackeys will no longer follow them and we will have a chance to replace them.

The LAGOP broke their rules to keep us from winning.
They admitted to it in convention and basically told us to fuck off.
If we can take over a lot of the GOP voters with this ticket, it will be our way of bitch slapping them... over and over and over.
And it will resonate to all the other states.

[kombayn]

Looks good! It should be a cheap print job too, with just a single color printed on white.

Why not reverse the color-scheme? That'd be even cheaper to print and it'd still stand out. I think the resources could be made on this project if we're all serious about this.

[torchbearer]

Why not reverse the color-scheme? That'd be even cheaper to print and it'd still stand out. I think the resources could be made on this project if we're all serious about this.

One color is charged as one color, even if we had the entire sign covered in blue ink, it would be the same as having one drop of blue ink. just the way its priced.
So it is ok to take advatange of a blue background.

We are serious about it in Louisiana. Waiting to see if everyone else will join us.

[rprprs]

If AdamT got on board and was helping us plan a moneybomb and radio/tv ad buy--who would donate $100?

me. :D

[torchbearer]

bump

[kylejack]

can you please explain to me why are you doing this let alone uging us to help you?

If McCain is the final nominee for GOP come after Sept 4, would it matter if it's Obama/McCain/Paul ticket in just one state?

Or is there something I don't understand....
Well you support Bob Barr, and this is a Ron Paul forum, so obviously efforts to promote Ron Paul and his message are going to take priority. If we're going to vote for a no-chance candidate, might as well vote for the right no-chance candidate.

[torchbearer]

Well you support Bob Barr, and this is a Ron Paul forum, so obviously efforts to promote Ron Paul and his message are going to take priority. If we're going to vote for a no-chance candidate, might as well vote for the right no-chance candidate.

Yeah- I like Barr, I was going to vote for him, but Ron Paul is the better candidate, and I will support him if he is on the ballot.
I told one of my close libertarian friends last night and he was pissed too, but he'll get over it.
Barr wasn't planning to do anything in this state anyway, the Barr campaign has ignored all LALP attempts to get a Barr campaign going in Louisiana, and Barr is polling poorly here.

His objection was that Barr may have a shot at 5% nationally which would make ballot access easier in a lot of states for the next election which would save the LP alot of money.
BUt the odds that Barr was going to get many votes in Louisiana is very slim, so I told him that was a void argument. He couldn't disagree.

[Sandra]

Could there be a section on the lataxpayer.com website where pdf files for fliers, signs and pushcards can be placed? The one on the Ron Paul campaign site came in very handy when cost or expediency was a problem.

[gls]

I just bought paulgoldwater.com and paulgoldwater2008.com...it might come in handy if this thing takes off

[Shotdown1027]

I suspect Paul will poll more votes in LA than Barr and Baldwin combined...even if we dont do ANYTHING to promote him. Barr will score roughly the same as any other LP candidate and Baldwin will score roughly the same as any other CP candidate. But,we'll be taking MORE votes from McCain and Obama.

If you could have those paulgoldwater.com sites redirect to the LATaxpayers.com, that'd be best for now I guess.

[torchbearer]

Could there be a section on the lataxpayer.com website where pdf files for fliers, signs and pushcards can be placed? The one on the Ron Paul campaign site came in very handy when cost or expediency was a problem.

I have some pdf's of signs, webmaster pm me.

[Mister Grieves]

If we're going to vote for a no-chance candidate, might as well vote for the right no-chance candidate.
I agree.

Ron Paul or bust.

[heath.whiteaker]

PM sent.

[Sandra]

I sent you an email, Brent

[Shotdown1027]

I love Ron Paul supporters. =)

[gls]

Are there any other states it might be possible to get this ticket on? Obviously it's really late to begin this process but it might make a bigger splash if it's on 2-3 states as opposed to just the one.

[Shotdown1027]

You'd have to check the rules in each state. States that could still put a third-party candidate on are Alabama, Rhode Island, Minnesota, and Wisconsin--but I dont know their rules about wether the candidate must sign something, etc.

[meambobbo]

Heath, we should consider removing the chipin widgit from www.lataxpayers.com - I was unaware that people can donate beyond 100%. ...we ended up with $600, lol... I ended the chipin, so no more people can post. It might look good to leave it up with 120%, but then again it might confuse people who try to chipin.

I'm going to contact the contributors and find out who wants a reimbursement proportional to their share of the contributions.

[RP4EVER]

You guys already got $600? AWESOME..better add $25 to that.....I mailed it this morning

[torchbearer]

Emails sent out with yard sign graphics for those who requested them.

[kylejack]

Any idea when we'll have a firm answer on them definitely being on the ballot in LA?

[torchbearer]

Any idea when we'll have a firm answer on them definitely being on the ballot in LA?

no later than sept 2nd. ;)

[Shotdown1027]

bumpity.

[heath.whiteaker]

bumpity.

humpity

[Shotdown1027]

Crumpity.

[torchbearer]

Crumpity.

updates on electors progress?

[Shotdown1027]

We know for sure that 5 have sent their paperwork. I'll get back with you on that in a minute.

[torchbearer]

We know for sure that 5 have sent their paperwork. I'll get back with you on that in a minute.

:)

[Micah Dardar]

but since this new movement has begun, I would say better late than never. I coordinated the effort for District 2 and 3, and our paperwork is sent from both districts. I opened my eyes to Ron Paul just in time to register Republican to vote for him in the primary. Unlike most of you, I am coming from the Democratic side rather than the disgruntled Republican side. College made me realize that I don't want to work for what they consider to be "the greater good".

[torchbearer]

but since this new movement has begun, I would say better late than never. I coordinated the effort for District 2 and 3, and our paperwork is sent from both districts. I opened my eyes to Ron Paul just in time to register Republican to vote for him in the primary. Unlike most of you, I am coming from the Democratic side rather than the disgruntled Republican side. College made me realize that I don't want to work for what they consider to be "the greater good".

What city are you in?
Thank you for getting this together.
I'm not a digruntled republican, i'm a disgruntled american.
Let's do this!

[Micah Dardar]

I'm currently living in Uptown New Orleans. I moved back here after I graduated college in Hattiesburg, MS. I want to stay here, but I may have found a job in my field between New Orleans and Baton Rouge, so if all goes well I may move when my lease is up in February. At least my car gets 40mpg, so the commute won't run me broke yet. I'm not sure how much longer I want to pay extortionate rent here in a place that isn't the greatest in the world to raise my two daughters.

[Micah Dardar]

What city are you in?
Thank you for getting this together.
I'm not a digruntled republican, i'm a disgruntled american.
Let's do this!

Disgruntled American is a much better way to put it.

[torchbearer]

I'm currently living in Uptown New Orleans. I moved back here after I graduated college in Hattiesburg, MS. I want to stay here, but I may have found a job in my field between New Orleans and Baton Rouge, so if all goes well I may move when my lease is up in February. At least my car gets 40mpg, so the commute won't run me broke yet. I'm not sure how much longer I want to pay extortionate rent here in a place that isn't the greatest in the world to raise my two daughters.

I lived in River Ridge up to Katrina. Off of Dickory in the creek apartments.
My old roommate still works at the shell building downtown.
Are you going to the rally?

[Micah Dardar]

I lived in River Ridge up to Katrina. Off of Dickory in the creek apartments.
My old roommate still works at the shell building downtown.
Are you going to the rally?

I can't make it. My new daughter is only 4 weeks old. I'm sure it will be great. I saw Ron Paul live in Kenner. I can't wait to hopefully hear the roar of the crowd at the rally on youtube when they announce that Ron Paul will be on the ballot in Louisiana.

[torchbearer]

I can't make it. My new daughter is only 4 weeks old. I'm sure it will be great. I saw Ron Paul live in Kenner. I can't wait to hopefully hear the roar of the crowd at the rally on youtube when they announce that Ron Paul will be on the ballot in Louisiana.

I bet! You will have earned that big smile!

[Micah Dardar]

I bet! You will have earned that big smile!

We ALL earned it if everybody gets the job done. Maybe there is a future for the Louisiana Taxpayers Party.
:D

[Shotdown1027]

Micah,

The LATP Party will not really be an official entity unless Paul scores 5%.

[meambobbo]

The LATP Party will not really be an official entity unless Paul scores 5%.

That's what I call motivation.

[Eric21ND]

If we can get Ron on the ballot here, we can really think about doing a money bomb with maybe AdamT's PAC and cover louisiana in TV ads.
If we can cause McCain to loose this state, that would be an appropriate slap back to the state LAGOP leadership that cheated us from our victory at the caucus.

And if Ron wins this state, he will hold 9 electorial votes which may decide who becomes president. He could used those votes as leverage to get a cabinet position, or to have the opportunity to appoint on the cabinet positions. Maybe even Treasury Sec.
That would be the story of the Presidential election! :eek: I love it! haha. I remember advocating we get Ron's name on the ballot in every state we could, but it got shot down pretty quick as being too lofty. :rolleyes:

[Eric21ND]

Great news. Anybody know of any other states like this, where one need only pay fees or collect a few signatures for ballot access (without the candidate agreeing to be on the ballot)? It would be interesting to know if Minnesota is like this. We could easily collect the 2,000 signatures needed from MN voters at the Rally for the Republic next week.
We could run a Paul/Ventura ticket in Minnesota. Now this is more like it!

Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" can't hold a candle to this effort. :D

[Eric21ND]

I'd love to see a Paul/Goldwater sign done with vintage style. Does anyone know what Barry's signs looked like in 1964?

[heath.whiteaker]

Here is his dad's sign
http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/Goldwater.jpg

[heath.whiteaker]

http://politicalparade.com/catalog/images/BGD101.jpg

[gls]

We should revive the old slogan too..."In your heart, you know they're right"

[torchbearer]

We should revive the old slogan too..."In your heart, you know they're right"

was that goldwater slogan? i didn't know that!
I like it, let's incorperate it into the website!

[gls]

was that goldwater slogan? i didn't know that!
I like it, let's incorperate it into the website!

Yep...

http://www.kenlayne.com/goldwater.jpg

Of course the liberals of the time retorted with "In your gut, you know he's nuts" :rolleyes:

[Shotdown1027]

Oh--and Brent was exactly right when he characterized this as a finger to the LAGOP.

When this idea was originally conceieved, by a few activists in the Baton Rouge area (myself included), it was a lofty goal. One man named Randall did the research by looking through election law and contacting the Secretary of State and Division of Elections officer--he would later tell us that it was actually possible. We could nominate Paul without him even knowing and all we had to do was find 9 electors and $500. This idea was shot down by at least one of the activists within this meeting (we'll call it the "Coffee Shop Conference" :) ). That activist left soon after and the conversation continued late into the night. We included ideas about VPs, what 3-word moniker would go on the ballot, what the stated goals would be, etc.

At the end of the Coffee Shop Conference, we had all embroiled ourselves in angry rants about the Louisiana GOP and John McCain.

History Lesson Starts Here: For those of you who dont know the history here--Louisiana was the state that Ron Paul came closest to winning in 2008. The caucus, held in each Congressional District in LA, was an event attended by about 1250 people in each district. Our campaign (the RP campaign) was the only one to file a full slate of electors in every district. We mustered the votes and on the night of the Caucus, victory was very much at hand. I arrived around 6, when the Caucus had just opened, and was astonished at how many Ron Paul people were there. Immediately I was encouraged. I placed a call to every member of my family and a few friends (they would all later come and caucus). I went in and voted with my wife. I was a candidate for elector and had re-registered Republican on the last possible day. My wife, Stephanie, had re-registered two days prior to me. When we voted, I was allowed to vote normally, but my wife was asked to cast a "provisional vote" because her name was not on the Voter Rolls. We found this odd, but did it happilly--supposing victory was at hand.

It was around this time that we found out about the "Pro-life, Pro-family (http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124573.html)" delegate slate. This slate was the former candidates for electors of Fred Thompson, who had dropped out just a couple of days prior. This slate had been about half-full originally. This slate was "unaffilliated" and would eventually make up a full slate because they cross-listed many of the McCain delegates. We discovered that this slate had considerable strength from the Church that the Caucus was being held at (Jefferson Baptist Church in Baton Rouge,LA) and that their church members had been streaming in all night to vote for their friends. It was around this time that we started getting troubling reports that this thing was going to be close.

My wife would later leave, and family and friends would come and go--voting until about 9p.m. Around 10, the Caucus ended and the campaigns were each allowed to place a representative in the counting room. I personally watched the counting for about a half-hour and left the Caucus around midnight. I left just prior to midnight and was told by the State Coordinator (Andrew Axsom) and Regional Coordinator (Matt Chancey) that we were ahead in ALL Districts statewide, but with narrow margins in Districts 5 and District 4, which make up northern Louisiana. At midnight, they placed all of the ballots in a cardboard box and put it in the backseat of a LAGOP employees car--he drove to their office.

For the next two days, the LAGOP recounted the ballots, refusing to allow the campaigns into the counting and casting aside all "provisional ballots" (which ended up being in excess of 600 ballots). When the official results were released, we had gained only a handful of delegates to the State Convention, maybe 15 out of 100. Brent can probably give exact numbers, this is simply a personal account.

End of History Lesson

Back to the current story. We're at the "Coffee Shop Conference", late at night, and all of the activists involved (including members of the Libertarian, Constitution, and Republican Parties as well as one independent) and we're all ranting about how pissed off we are that the LAGOP screwed us the way they did. By all accounts, we should have won a super-majority of the State Delegates but were screwed out of it. It was around this time that the idea of putting Ron Paul on the ballot became a reality to us. We all agreed that we would do what we could do to make it happen and simply hope Paul would accept the Draft.

Fast forward a week. News comes out from Virginia that the Independent Green Party has nominated Bloomberg/Paul for President and that neither Bloomberg nor Paul is going to do anything about it. Word came (http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128181.html), through Jesse Benton, "We're not going to take any action to get his name off," Benton said, "but at the same time we're not encouraging it."

The Coffee Shop Conference reconvened, this time via email and we worked quickly. Within several hours we had figured out what needed to be done and set out finding electors and explaining the situation to them.
Privately, we met and discussed the small-details again. The 3-word moniker that would appear on the ballot? We would eventually decide on "Louisiana Taxpayers Party". For VP, many were considered, including Lew Rockwell, Gov. Gary Johnson, Rep. John Hostettler, and Chuck Baldwin. We would eventually settle on Rep. Goldwater Jr. because he would have wide appeal to the Republicans who dislike McCain. The goals? Punch the LAGOP in the nose. Make them bleed. Don't let them forget we are here and that we will punish them if they support authoritarians. And do all of this while supporting our favorite candidate for President.

[Eric21ND]

I found this about North Dakota...remember this was one of Ron Paul's best states over 20% of the vote.

A Complete Filing Must Include

1. A Petition/Certificate of Nomination (SFN 2704) containing the signatures of 1,000 qualified North Dakota electors;
http://www.nd.gov/eforms/Doc/sfn02704.pdf

2. An Affidavit of Candidacy (SFN 2703);
http://www.nd.gov/eforms/Doc/sfn02703.pdf

3. A Statements of Interests (SFN 10172).
http://www.nd.gov/eforms/Doc/sfn10172.pdf

[Shotdown1027]

September 5th is the deadline in North Dakota--you would need to move VERY fast.

[Sandra]

Is there a way to get that affidavit signed by Dr Paul at the Rally? If he sees support, he may fill it out.

[Shotdown1027]

If I am reading it correctly, that affadavit does not need Ron Paul's signature. It needs the Elector's.

[gls]

If I am reading it correctly, that affadavit does not need Ron Paul's signature. It needs the Elector's.

It says "I _______[Candidate Name]_______ being sworn..." etc.


Also paulgoldwater.com and paulgoldwater2008.com now redirect to lataxpayers.com

[Shotdown1027]

The candidate is actually the elector,though. The form says the same thing here in LA, but it is signed 9 times...by electors. The electors are candidates for the Electoral College.

[Shotdown1027]

For the website, I'v been asked to write the content. On the "About Us" section, I wrote this.

What does everyone think of it?

"We are a group of liberty-loving individuals who are unwilling to see the principles of freedom compromised in favor of big government. For every political issue on the national scene today, we believe the simple remedy of less government should be applied. We endorse the idea of voluntarism, self-responsibility, family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that a monolithic government is going to. As a people who have a long history of distrusting state power, we seek to destroy the cult of the omnipotent state. As a nation that once praised the principles of federalism, we wish to bind the state down with the chains of the Constitution. We believe that the government, any government, does not have the power to dispense with the rights of the sovereign individual. We declare that the proper role of government is defined by the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights and that any usurpation of further power by government constitutes tyranny. Most importantly, all laws should comply with the Constitution."

It leans heavily upon quotes and speeches from Ron Paul with a few other things thrown in.

[gls]

The candidate is actually the elector,though. The form says the same thing here in LA, but it is signed 9 times...by electors. The electors are candidates for the Electoral College.

Yes but it is not the electors' names that go on the ballot

"and I do hereby request that my name be printed on the ballot for the election to be held"

[Shotdown1027]

gls,

Call you Secretary of State and ask him if Ron Paul must sign it. I dont know.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Fortunately, MN does not require affidavits of candidacy. We need only have ten electors and 2,000 signatures to put Ron Paul on the ballot.

[Shotdown1027]

Then get to work!

Certify Ventura as VP.

[torchbearer]

Update on electors?
Anxious here that we won't get the paperwork in time.

[Andrew Ryan]

Really...any new news?

[Shotdown1027]

We have 2 electors' mail in today. We have confirmed with the other 7 (myself included) that they put it in the mail yesterday. The filing fee was put in the mail today,but is coming from only a couple miles away and should be here tomorrow or saturday.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent, give me some feedback on thart "About us" thing I posted.

[torchbearer]

Brent, give me some feedback on thart "About us" thing I posted.

the only thing I saw, that may confuse some people is this line:

we wish to bind the state down with the chains of the Constitution

They may take it as saying, federal government bind state government with the constitution.

perhaps its can be rewitten:


we wish to bind government down with the chains of the Constitution

A good Jefferson reference, a response to a question of how can we garuntee that only good men will rule...
well, there will be bad men ruling, but if they are bound by the constitution, it matters not their agenda.
But without the constitution, bad men will turn this country into a place ruled by the rule of men, not the rule of law.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

A fine point.

[brandon]

This is so awesome. Great job guys.

I wish ballot access was this easy in PA

[torchbearer]

This is so awesome. Great job guys.

I wish ballot access was this easy in PA

It should be this easy everywhere.
Just pay a small fee to help pay for the polling places and machines/supplies. And you are on.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

If we're talking about how it really SHOULD be--private ballots are the answer.

[torchbearer]

Brent,

If we're talking about how it really SHOULD be--private ballots are the answer.

i think a non-bias neutral party to host the ballots would be hard to find in the private sector of louisiana.
I'm for extremely small government, but a voluntary tax, ie ballot access fee, is consistant with constitutional government.
You don't have to pay the tax if you don't want to be on the ballot.
and only those on the ballot pay the tax. The state government civil services employees are paid by the kitty to host the polling station.
I'd actually trust that system over diebold holding private ballots.

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

By private ballots I did not mean that Diebold would be counting them or anything.

Of course,the method you suggested is constitutional, as is mine.

Private ballots still have state employees doing the counting, but don't have filing fees because of the privately printed ballot. Each person can make his own (probably according to some specific reubric, 12 pt font etc etc) or a party (republican, democratic) can print them, or some advocacy group (Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty) would distribute it (or make it available for print). This takes control of the ballot out of government's hands.

[torchbearer]

Brent,

By private ballots I did not mean that Diebold would be counting them or anything.

Of course,the method you suggested is constitutional, as is mine.

Private ballots still have state employees doing the counting, but don't have filing fees because of the privately printed ballot. Each person can make his own (probably according to some specific reubric, 12 pt font etc etc) or a party (republican, democratic) can print them, or some advocacy group (Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty) would distribute it (or make it available for print). This takes control of the ballot out of government's hands.

It could be seen as a voter tax. albiet a small one.
As in, you are requiring a person to provide their own ballot. That would be an expense to vote.
It would be in the interest of the politicians to pay for and provide the free ballots to the voters, so the fee should go to the politician on the ballot.

[Shotdown1027]

I see your philosophical point.

Either way--both systems are preferable to the terrible ones that exist across the nation. Especially in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Maine.

[kombayn]

I'm impressed. If Paul/Goldwater Jr. get on the ballot, that'd be sweet. With proper media attention, they could pick-up a nice chunk of the vote in Louisiana.

[torchbearer]

come on usps!

[heath.whiteaker]

just checking in.

[Shotdown1027]

As most of you know--a unique situation has developed. With a hurricane bearing down on Louisiana and supposed to land Tuesday night, Im hoping to be able to turn in the forms today (friday). I'll update you later on that.

[Micah Dardar]

As most of you know--a unique situation has developed. With a hurricane bearing down on Louisiana and supposed to land Tuesday night, Im hoping to be able to turn in the forms today (friday). I'll update you later on that.


Come on, post office! Do you think if they close they will have to give us an extension until they reopen if we can't get it done today? We have come this far. If we have to, I bet we could file a case with the Louisiana Supreme Court if the hurricane makes them close and they don't want to accept it after.

I have already filed a case against Kia Motors in the Federal Court in Hattiesburg for a lemon Kia Rio that I bought in New Mexico. I got a decent settlement considering I was up against a large law firm out of Jackson. If we have to go this route, I am willing to help unless one of you thinks that you can have it wrapped up.

[Micah Dardar]

I like the "about us" section that was suggested by shotdown1027 and the correction that was suggested by torchbearer. I think we can expect way more than 5% from what I have been hearing. People are really tired of being lied to, and they all know that both of the major candidates are liars.

Most of us here are pretty young, but we have come from all sides of the spectrum to try to restore some integrity to our government before everything we know collapses. May God shine some light on us. We have a chance to be the change that we want to see, so maybe we should keep going long after the election.

[Shotdown1027]

I have 7 elector forms in my car, and me and my friend from District 6 are going to get ours done today,then turn it in.

[Micah Dardar]

Yay! Let us know when it is all complete, and thanks to everyone that made this possible!

[Sandra]

Contraflow may begin Saturday so Hurry!

[Micah Dardar]

Does anyone know anything yet? I'm on the edge of my seat here!

[Micah Dardar]

Well, I guess that we will have to wait until Tuesday. If we need motivation to complete this task, please watch the documentary "I Know I'm Not Alone" by Michael Franti of Spearhead.

America is causing problems in the world, and we as normal citizens have to solve them. You will see this if you watch this documentary. We have to withdraw all our troops from around the world and send kind ambassadors, such as Michael Franti, to normalize relations and share culture.

I want us to all show that Louisiana's youth does not accept our current federal government's policies. We need to make sure that this gets done!

[Micah Dardar]

Well, I guess that we will have to wait until Tuesday. If we need motivation to complete this task, please watch the documentary "I Know I'm Not Alone" by Michael Franti of Spearhead.

America is causing problems in the world, and we as normal citizens have to solve them. You will see this if you watch this documentary. We have to withdraw all our troops from around the world and send kind ambassadors, such as Michael Franti, to normalize relations and share culture.

I want us to all show that Louisiana's youth does not accept our current federal government's policies. We need to make sure that this gets done!


I'm seeding it on mininova.org right now

[Andrew Ryan]

Bump

[Imperial]

Pre-Gustav Bump

[Shotdown1027]

Things have gotten complicated. Friday, I had no time to go to the Notary because of work. I figured I could make it to one Saturday--but they were all closed today.

Labor Day is monday and Gustauve is bearing down on us--and is supposed to hit Monday at 2p.m. So...I need to find a notary that is open on Tuesday (the day after a MAJOR hurricane hits) and I need to find out if the SoS is even going to be OPEN on Tuesday...

[Shotdown1027]

Scratch that. I found a Notary who was willing to meet with me tomorrow (Sunday) morning, I'll then get the last of the paperwork from the post office Tuesday morning and file it Tuesday ASAP.

It'll be last moment,though.

Oh--and thats IF the SoS and Post Office are open Tuesday.

[Andrew Ryan]

Great :)

[Shotdown1027]

I suspect the SoS will allow an extension,but Im hoping to be able to take care of it anyway.

[Sandra]

Great news!

[Shotdown1027]

Sandra,

do you actually live in BR? If so, why havent I seen you before?

[kombayn]

any updates?

[suhaila]

Hope all is going well for you in BR! Thanks for all the hard work!

Checking in from the 4th district,
Sharon

[Shotdown1027]

The Sec. of State's office wasnt open today.

[Sandra]

Sandra,

do you actually live in BR? If so, why havent I seen you before?

I'm from Denham Springs. Were you at the Dist 6 Caucus? I'm on a generator right now so it might be a day or two before I'm back here.

[meambobbo]

gustav was a real SOB. I'm at a friend's in metairie who has power. let's hope things will work out well for everyone.

[Shotdown1027]

Sandra,

I was born and raised in Denham Springs and yea, I attended the District 6 caucus. I led the LSU Students for Ron Paul group,which had about 300 members around that time.

[Shotdown1027]

Gustauve + the late nature of the event may have doomed us. If the SoS doesnt accept the paperwork late,then the filing fee will simply be donated to the Campaign for Liberty, Bob Conley, or BJ Lawson.

[nate895]

Gustauve + the late nature of the event may have doomed us. If the SoS doesnt accept the paperwork late,then the filing fee will simply be donated to the Campaign for Liberty, Bob Conley, or BJ Lawson.

Sue if they don't accept. I think hurricanes count as "extenuating circumstances," all laws, even if it isn't written, have extenuating circumstances clauses.

[Shotdown1027]

We will certainly THREATEN to sue...but actually sueing requires money and/or time/effort. We dont have any of the three in the wake of a massive storm. In fact--most of us dont even have electricity.

[nate895]

We will certainly THREATEN to sue...but actually sueing requires money and/or time/effort. We dont have any of the three in the wake of a massive storm. In fact--most of us dont even have electricity.

I am sure the community on RPforums.com will get you what you need. Start a chipin.

[Shotdown1027]

nate,

Assuming that people dont come out of the woodwork claiming we were "enemies of the movement" or "theives!" then that may be an option.

[suhaila]

Trent, do you plan to try again today to file? I've noticed that the SOS website has been down a few days now, and the congressional primaries have been pushed back. Maybe they're planning to extend the Sept. 2nd deadline for filing.

Thanks for your efforts!
Sharon

[Micah Dardar]

Since they delayed the election, I believe that they will have to extend the deadline. Believe and keep trying. If God is on our side in this, then nothing will be able to stop us. We can take it to the courts if we have to. Let's not let Gustav or the state stop us. God may be testing us to find out how far we are willing to go for what we know is right.

[torchbearer]

nate,

Assuming that people dont come out of the woodwork claiming we were "enemies of the movement" or "theives!" then that may be an option.

+1

by the way, we spoke to Goldwater,Jr. He says he accepts the nomination for VP, and I now have the number to his media coordinator.
Send me your number via PM so we can share all this info. We really have to get this thing going, he seemed really excited.
Considering his speech prior to Ron's, I think he would be honor to run with Ron.

[torchbearer]

i took a pic with Goldwater jr at the convention :D

Could you post that pic? I'd like to see ya with him.

[Shotdown1027]

I went to the SoS's office AGAIN,and they were STILL CLOSED. I became concerned that if they were closed for much longer they would blame the lateness upon me,and not their tardiness in reopening. So what did I do? I took out my phone and recorded a video of me placing the forms and money into an envelope and slipping it through the door of the SoS's office. The moment they open,they'll have our paperwork. =)
I also left my contact info.

[torchbearer]

I went to the SoS's office AGAIN,and they were STILL CLOSED. I became concerned that if they were closed for much longer they would blame the lateness upon me,and not their tardiness in reopening. So what did I do? I took out my phone and recorded a video of me placing the forms and money into an envelope and slipping it through the door of the SoS's office. The moment they open,they'll have our paperwork. =)
I also left my contact info.

Do you have copies of the paperwork? I don't know how an anonymous package will be recieved.
Definitely follow up as much as possible to make sure they don't get stupid and say, "what package?"

[Shotdown1027]

Brent,

I have video of me putting it through the door, if they lost it,they'd be culpable.