Glenn Beck just said he wants to go to the Ron Paul convention [Archive]

Imperial

08-20-2008, 05:13 PM

SWEET!!!

I would love to see Beck endorse Barr.

Even though Beck doesn't like some of the people at the Rally for the Republic, he should consider it like a reformed GOP.

We actually HAVE a big tent, not just neo-cons and disillusioned conservatives.

Also, he should ask himself who scares him more? The RPR's, the Democrats, or Bush/McCain?

I think Beck isn't so sure about the anarchist faction of Ron Paul supporters. But he doesn't have to agree with them one hundred percent, as long as he is for liberty. He is coming around; at least he listens to opposition, unlike Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter...

MRoCkEd

08-20-2008, 05:15 PM

Youtubez?

nate895

08-20-2008, 05:15 PM

I have to say, even though it is for different reasons than Beck, 10% of Ron Paul supporters scare the "living bejesus," to use his terminology, out of me as well.

qh4dotcom

08-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Youtubez?

The Glenn Beck show will rerun at 9pm eastern

brandon

08-20-2008, 05:24 PM

I have to say, even though it is for different reasons than Beck, 10% of Ron Paul supporters scare the "living bejesus," to use his terminology, out of me as well.

Well 100% of neocons scare the living bejesus out of me, so I'll take my chances with the RP supporters.

yongrel

08-20-2008, 05:25 PM

Could be interesting.

DeadtoSin

08-20-2008, 05:28 PM

It'll be interesting, and I'm hoping he'll open up a bit more. I've started to like him a bit lately.

Nirvikalpa

08-20-2008, 05:29 PM

well 100% of neocons scare the living bejesus out of me, so i'll take my chances with the rp supporters.

+1 :d

nate895

08-20-2008, 05:32 PM

Well 100% of neocons scare the living bejesus out of me, so I'll take my chances with the RP supporters.

Not only do they scare me, the insane things they say make no rational sense. At least the "kooks" in Ron Paul world make a little sense.

constitutional

08-20-2008, 05:34 PM

Lets just say ... EXCUSES!! EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!

He is trying to gain audience and yet at the same time not support Dr. Paul who comes closest to his views on many issues.

LibertyCola

08-20-2008, 05:34 PM

I think he is talking about the truthers, the truthers are mostly socialists anyways so I don't even know why they support Ron Paul.

UtahApocalypse

08-20-2008, 05:44 PM

I have to say, even though it is for different reasons than Beck, 10% of Ron Paul supporters scare the "living bejesus," to use his terminology, out of me as well.

Amen!! unfortunately that 10% is resposible for about 90% of the peo that refuse to come on board too.

Lets just say ... EXCUSES!! EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!

He is trying to gain audience and yet at the same time not support Dr. Paul who comes closest to his views on many issues.

And yet again people discard something good, and honest stated by Beck. No wonder he refuses to come on board, 10% here really do ALWAYS denounce anything he says, good or bad. Way to keep winning support and new friends guys!! keep it up 10% group You doing a swell job limiting our numbers!!

amy31416

08-20-2008, 05:48 PM

I think he is talking about the truthers, the truthers are mostly socialists anyways so I don't even know why they support Ron Paul.

Really? Now that's something I hadn't picked up on at all. Perhaps you could humor us with your source or even just where you got this notion. Maybe I don't know enough truthers. . .

LibertyCola

08-20-2008, 05:51 PM

They see Dennis Kucinich as a god, that alone should qualify them as incompentent worthless commy pinko socialist dung.:cool:

Deborah K

08-20-2008, 06:03 PM

It'll be interesting, and I'm hoping he'll open up a bit more. I've started to like him a bit lately.

I have renewed faith in him as well. I think we should start a phone call/ email campaign and let him know we want to see him there.

constitutional

08-20-2008, 06:05 PM

Amen!! unfortunately that 10% is resposible for about 90% of the peo that refuse to come on board too.

And yet again people discard something good, and honest stated by Beck. No wonder he refuses to come on board, 10% here really do ALWAYS denounce anything he says, good or bad. Way to keep winning support and new friends guys!! keep it up 10% group You doing a swell job limiting our numbers!!

Half of what you just said don't apply to me, so don't put words in my mouth and start an argument. I don't denounce everything he says. He has given more airtime to Dr. Paul than anyone else. I welcome it. But where was he during primaries? What made some people angry at him so much? I have not seen him apologize for implying Ron Paul supporters are terrorists or in bed with Islamofascists. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo) He probably understood definition of terrorism when a ron paul supporter or someone else made a threat against him. Come on, you have to accept responsibility for what you say or do.

I wanted to say before that please don't attack people on this board thinking you are talking to 10% of ron paul supporters. BTW, 10% is a number he pulled out of his ass.

Is he not attending to convention just because he thinks 10% of Dr. Paul supporters are nut? What about the 100% neocons that someone here pointed out.

Again, Beck is great but damn... he is one confused fellow.

dannno

08-20-2008, 06:06 PM

They see Dennis Kucinich as a god, that alone should qualify them as incompentent worthless commy pinko socialist dung.:cool:

A God???

A God??????

REALLY???

c'mon, even Ron Paul speaks highly of Kucinich. He is sticking up for the first responders, asking the tough questions about 9/11 (like the record stock market put options..), trying to bring the troops home and he is attempting to prosecute our President for lying to the public about getting us into war. He's also probably the second biggest supporter of the constitution in all of congress. Just because we don't see eye to eye on economics issues doesn't mean we can't work with the man..

I have a question, what do you think about Glenn Beck? I think he's scum because of his stance on foreign policy, but I just sent an email encouraging him to come to the rally because we share similar views on economics.

Guys like Kucinich want the same thing we want.. They want to get big business out of government. The only difference is the approach. We want to eliminate the part of government that works with big business, they want to eliminate big business's relationship with government. One day they will realize that is an impossible task and join us.. But that day will be further away with people like you who cannot recognize WHY people believe the things that they do.

constitutional

08-20-2008, 06:10 PM

Emailing him to come to convention is great idea. More coverage for Dr. Paul!

MRoCkEd

08-20-2008, 06:14 PM

Emailing him to come to convention is great idea. More coverage for Dr. Paul!
yessums

Deborah K

08-20-2008, 06:19 PM

Okay then, let's hit our address books, favorite blogs and forums and start an email campaign. Let's get Glenn Beck to the C4L Rally!

RSLudlum

08-20-2008, 06:21 PM

Ask him if he needs a Ronvoy ride?? ;)

LibertyEagle

08-20-2008, 06:32 PM

I have to say, even though it is for different reasons than Beck, 10% of Ron Paul supporters scare the "living bejesus," to use his terminology, out of me as well.

Heck, 10% of the people scare me too. :p

Most people don't react well to people who chase people down the street like a mob, lobbing snowballs. Nor do they respond well to unbathed, scraggly people getting in their faces yelling at them about how stupid they are if they don't support Ron Paul. You know, things like that. ;) It doesn't go over well with mainstream America. You know, the people whose votes and money we need to get our country back.

ItsTime

08-20-2008, 06:33 PM

get Beck a speaking gig there! Please do it. He will talk about it all week on his shows!!!

MRoCkEd

08-20-2008, 06:36 PM

get Beck a speaking gig there! Please do it. He will talk about it all week on his shows!!!
definitely
he can talk about excessive spending, the economy..

satchelmcqueen

08-20-2008, 06:37 PM

haaaylee

08-20-2008, 06:44 PM

My dad just called me to tell me "The Teller who doesn't talk just mentioned Ron Paul on Glenn Beck."

If nothing else Glenn Beck is helping me with my dad.

yaz

08-20-2008, 06:44 PM

The only Ron Paul supporters I'm "scared" of are the ones that support Dr. Paul for all the wrong reasons.

qh4dotcom

08-20-2008, 06:48 PM

Reminder...you can see Glenn say that he wants to be at the Ron Paul convention again at 9pm...in about 10 minutes from now

It was interesting to hear him talk with Penn Jillette. By the way he also said that 80% of Obama supporters scare him as well.

1000-points-of-fright

08-20-2008, 07:03 PM

I was right, but I had to wait for the rerun to make sure. Beck didn't say that he wanted to go. He said that he hoped to send somebody out to cover the convention.

MRoCkEd

08-20-2008, 07:07 PM

I was right, but I had to wait for the rerun to make sure. Beck didn't say that he wanted to go. He said that he hoped to send somebody out to cover the convention.
he said that and then a little later said he wants to go and hear what they have to say but is worried about the 10% nuts

aspiringconstitutionalist

08-20-2008, 07:10 PM

I think Beck isn't so sure about the anarchist faction of Ron Paul supporters.

I imagine he's referring to the 9/11 Truthers... I believe they were the ones who blustered into one of his book signings about a year ago and started yelling at him. Besides, I can't remember the last time I saw any anarchocapitalists standing on street corners screaming at passersby through bullhorns.

speciallyblend

08-20-2008, 07:10 PM

beck is a jerk, he is a lil to late,. he isn't worth the toilet paper i wipe my ass with:mad:

Jeremy

08-20-2008, 07:14 PM

I'm pretty sure Beck will either vote Barr or not vote.

speciallyblend

08-20-2008, 07:20 PM

well beck better not get anywhere near me ,or i will plant my foot between his legs with a swift kick that he deserves. beck is tv media scum!!!!!

PatriotOne

08-20-2008, 07:21 PM

...he said he wanted to go to but about 10% of the people who will be there at the rally scare him.

Could he be less of a man? RP supporters scare Beck but he has no problem being a cheerleader to send Americans into an illegal war to get killed fighting the illusion of terrorism brought to us by the neocons so he can sleep at night.

Man up ya girly boy!

PlzPeopleWakeUp

08-20-2008, 07:22 PM

Jeremy

08-20-2008, 07:26 PM

well beck better not get anywhere near me ,or i will plant my foot between his legs with a swift kick that he deserves. beck is tv media scum!!!!!

good way to reach out and get more supporters of liberty

</sarcasm>

Deborah K

08-20-2008, 07:28 PM

i dont get beck sometimes. he will have ron paul on and just praise him and make him look good and actuallt lets him talk.

but then he makes statements like "10% of them scare me" it seems for no good reason.

doesnt he realize what that does to the thinking of the average person who may still be in question or on the fence??

sometimes beck hurts the cause just by stupid statements.

Don't forget, back when we were heavily hitting the media for interviews, some idiot, or idiots threatened him. Like it or not, we have a lunatic fringe attached to us.

You don't have to like him, but think about this strategically. He has a national tv and radio show. Part of our strategy as a movement needs to include infiltrating the media.

DeadtoSin

08-20-2008, 07:36 PM

We do need guys like Glenn Beck, even though he is somewhat consistently inconsistent with his views on liberty.

If he is an ally with us on even one of our views, then we have some credibility in at least that area. Let's take it where we can get it.

TXcarlosTX

08-20-2008, 07:38 PM

the u

tonesforjonesbones

08-20-2008, 07:40 PM

I agree with whoever said it's the truthers...Glenn Beck and his family got death threats from those truthers...tones

constitutional

08-20-2008, 07:49 PM

good way to reach out and get more supporters of liberty

</sarcasm>

We've given Beck a lot of chances....he always makes us look lunatics at some point. I wished I had saved many mp3's of Ben talking falsely about Dr. Paul: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=60742

mrchubbs

08-20-2008, 07:51 PM

Beck is undercutting the fear element by half.

20% of the Ron Paul supporters scare me. :D

and BTW, Beck is not a neocon. He's a pro-war libertarian.

Yeah they do exist, however misguided most of us think they are.

Enjoy.

Drknows

08-20-2008, 07:56 PM

Youtube or.....

TXcarlosTX

08-20-2008, 07:58 PM

bust

Imperial

08-20-2008, 08:03 PM

FYI, you can catch it again on Headlines News at 11 Central, 12 Eastern.

He may be a pro-war libertarian, but I think that is too simple. He is trying to find concrete solutions to problems, and doing that requires a complete mind-turn-around.

I mean, I started changing my viewpoints about 2 years ago, and I still religiously have to redo arguments in my head from The Case for Gold trying to understand the labyrinth of our system.

Give him some time...he is getting there.

mediahasyou

08-20-2008, 08:03 PM

He is neolibertarian. A phase between neocon and libertarian. Be patient. He is soon embracing liberty.

I would recommend this to him: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565

aspiringconstitutionalist

08-20-2008, 08:16 PM

He is neolibertarian. A phase between neocon and libertarian. Be patient. He is soon embracing liberty.

Most of the neolibertarians I know are actually on the way out of liberty and on the way to embracing neoconservatism.

Mini-Me

08-20-2008, 08:41 PM

Don't forget, back when we were heavily hitting the media for interviews, some idiot, or idiots threatened him. Like it or not, we have a lunatic fringe attached to us.

You don't have to like him, but think about this strategically. He has a national tv and radio show. Part of our strategy as a movement needs to include infiltrating the media.

This is important to remember. Considering some dumbass apparently made death threats on behalf of all of us*, Beck has an understandable reason to be somewhat mistrustful. Personally, I think we need to build bridges and find friends wherever we can. Kucinich can be a good ally on some issues one day, and Beck can be a good ally on some issues another day. If someone we don't always agree with is willing to extend an olive branch, it would be both counterproductive and rude to reject it. Beck may have his misconceptions about foreign policy, empire, etc., but that's to be expected...he's just like anybody else who has become very emotionally invested in his current viewpoint. It's tough to persuade people to change their views when it requires them to change deep-seated beliefs about how the world works (especially when they derive a sense of pride from those beliefs). Just give him time...and even if he doesn't ever come around, at least he's respectful and willing to give Paul (and others) credit where it's due on other issues.

Bottom line: Beck may be unreliable, but he can be a great ally when he wants to be, and it's in our interests to make relations better (rather than making our relations with him an "all or nothing" proposition).

*Either that or Giuliani did it, hoping it would drive Paul down below him in the primaries. ;)

RSLudlum

08-20-2008, 08:43 PM

Bottom line: Beck may be unreliable, but he can be a great ally when he wants to be, and it's in our interests to make relations better (rather than making our relations with him an "all or nothing" proposition).

Well....so much for 'no entangling alliances' :p

UtahApocalypse

08-20-2008, 08:56 PM

This is important to remember. Considering some dumbass apparently made death threats on behalf of all of us*, Beck has an understandable reason to be somewhat mistrustful. Personally, I think we need to build bridges and find friends wherever we can. Kucinich can be a good ally on some issues one day, and Beck can be a good ally on some issues another day. If someone we don't always agree with is willing to extend an olive branch, it would be both counterproductive and rude to reject it. Beck may have his misconceptions about foreign policy, empire, etc., but that's to be expected...he's just like anybody else who has become very emotionally invested in his current viewpoint. It's tough to persuade people to change their views when it requires them to change deep-seated beliefs about how the world works (especially when they derive a sense of pride from those beliefs). Just give him time...and even if he doesn't ever come around, at least he's respectful and willing to give Paul (and others) credit where it's due on other issues.

Bottom line: Beck may be unreliable, but he can be a great ally when he wants to be, and it's in our interests to make relations better (rather than making our relations with him an "all or nothing" proposition).

*Either that or Giuliani did it, hoping it would drive Paul down below him in the primaries. ;)

you sir should be post of the week!!

+10

Mini-Me

08-20-2008, 09:03 PM

you sir should be post of the week!!

+10

I wish. Thanks :)

Well....so much for 'no entangling alliances' :p

Hehe...I'm not saying back him up when he's wrong and go to war with his enemies...I'm saying honest friendship and commerce with all! :D

TXcarlosTX

08-20-2008, 10:09 PM

U - tang?

evilfunnystuff

08-20-2008, 10:27 PM

Well....so much for 'no entangling alliances' :p

no entangling alliances

as longt as we arent forced into supporting his views and actions ...

i despise beck at times but there is no reason to not utilise his voice/presence on issues that we are in agreement on

do you think all these elites agree all the time ? of course not they have major power struggles but they work together when it is in their best interest to do so.

the rest isnt in referance to you
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on the death threats who says it was even from genuine ron paul supporterss.

it could have been anyone wanting to make the movement look bad cause we were getting attention.

evilfunnystuff

08-20-2008, 10:40 PM

oh and whoever thinks most truthers are collectivists your verry wrong most truthers do not trust government on anything

so anyone who thinks otherwise please wake up a little more cuz you may still be a little tired

James Madison

08-20-2008, 11:01 PM

well beck better not get anywhere near me ,or i will plant my foot between his legs with a swift kick that he deserves. beck is tv media scum!!!!!

Won't hurt him.;)

James Madison

08-20-2008, 11:03 PM

Youtube or.....

Must...fight...the urge...rick...roll...:D

mrchubbs

08-20-2008, 11:04 PM

Here is the YouTube...

http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/08/21/ron-paul-bob-barr-and-none-of-the-above-penn-jillette-on-glenn-beck/1552/

Or for a direct yt link without the LM commentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kj119RjlWI

Enjoy

Bruno

08-20-2008, 11:21 PM

devil21

08-21-2008, 02:38 AM

My dad just called me to tell me "The Teller who doesn't talk just mentioned Ron Paul on Glenn Beck."

If nothing else Glenn Beck is helping me with my dad.

Teller SPOKE? And about Ron Paul? Youtube or it didnt happen :D

EDIT: just watched the interview, no Teller speaking :( But Beck wasn't as bad as some are making it out to be. No way. Good interview I thought.