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LizF
08-31-2007, 04:08 PM
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070831/NEWS06/708310401/1001/NEWS
ghemminger
08-31-2007, 04:39 PM
No fricken way - Awsome!
Thomas Jefferson
08-31-2007, 05:33 PM
I live in MI and I'll be voting on 1/15/08.
Mesogen
09-01-2007, 05:57 PM
Suck it, Iowa!
foofighter20x
09-01-2007, 07:26 PM
They may have moved theirs, but NH will be following suit. NH state law requires it.

Both will be penalized delegates, of course.
0zzy
09-01-2007, 07:29 PM
Isn't this, bad, for us?

NH has stupid state laws.
Chester Copperpot
09-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Isn't this, bad, for us?

NH has stupid state laws.

Trying to cut down on the time Ron Paul has for growing the grassroots army.
cjhowe
09-01-2007, 07:42 PM
I think this is good for us. Especially if the Republican Party sticks to it's guns and limits the number of delegates for the convention for states that jump the gun. With their delegates cut in half, the results of those contests are less meaningful. If they're less meaningful then the party doesn't have a clear winner until later in the process. This costs money. That is if you don't have a small army of activist supporters. This will become a knock-out, drag-out. I think that favors a grassroots campaign.
RockEnds
09-01-2007, 07:48 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118861166316715435.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


Who benefits from the new timetable? The front-loaded schedule favors big-name candidates with the money and organization to run expensive media campaigns in many states. In the past, with state primaries spread out over the course of several months, lesser-known, underfunded candidates could build momentum by campaigning door to door.
foofighter20x
09-01-2007, 08:23 PM
The next few days will be interesting. Primary schedules have to be handed into the RNC HQ on Sept 4th.
Mesogen
09-01-2007, 09:40 PM
This is why I think party primaries should be privatized and left to the parties to handle on their own. Only open general primaries should be run by the state.
bbachtung
09-01-2007, 09:51 PM
Both parties will treat NH and Iowa differently than the rest. The rest, though, will be made to pay (probably, although Larry Sabato, a political science professor / commentator, says that the parties will chicken out and seat the delegates anyway).

I agree that the more states that move up their primaries and get penalized will work to the advantage of RP by prolonging the nomination battle.
foofighter20x
09-01-2007, 11:04 PM
BB, I disagree... The RNC has already warned NH that they will lose 50% of their delegates, as per the party rules, if them move their primary outside of the window. NH has said they are willing to pay that price.

As for Iowa, it doesn't matter for either party, as the Iowa Caucuses are non-binding, and thus don't choose delegates. They could have the Iowa Caucuses tomorrow and not be penalized since it picks no delegates.

Also, to Mesogen: the primaries are run by the states, privately, however the delegate to the last party convention voted and passed the current party rules. It's a contract, so to speak, to which they are all bound.