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skiingff
08-31-2007, 03:17 PM
Please list your new voiceover scripts here. This thread is not for discussion of "I think this and I think that," we understand what you think. Turn those thoughts into something concrete. Change the beginning quote to a quote of your choice, and we will vote on it. This isn't a free-for-all to go changing the whole voiceover and then recommend that the whole ad be changed as well. This is for the quote in the beginning ONLY, which was the only major thing mentioned in the discussion thread about the ad. If you have anything else to say about the ad, other than the website, which is being changed to www.RonPaul2008.com, please use the other thread.

Nearly 50 years ago, our President urged us, "ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."
Ron Paul has been standing up for America's youth for those 50 years.
As a military veteran, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq so our young servicemen and women wouldn't be unnecessarily put at risk.
Ron Paul believes the billions spent in Iraq would be better spent in the hands of ordinary Americans and their families.
For your nation, for your future -- Ron Paul, Republican for President.

If you would make no changes, just say something to that effect.

brumans
08-31-2007, 03:24 PM
What does it mean that Ron Paul has stood up for "America's Youth"? Why America's Youth and not anyone else? That doesn't really make sense to me.

slantedview
08-31-2007, 03:26 PM
Which is the other thread where we can comment on the rest of the ad text? (maybe you can link it in the first post.... there are a lot of threads nowadays about the tv ads).

ghemminger
08-31-2007, 03:28 PM
If you would make no changes, just say something to that effect.

skiingff
08-31-2007, 03:39 PM
The other thread is:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=14997

You can view the actual ad here:
http://www.spotrunner.com/Ads/Host/Play.aspx?cde=A1PK

MsDoodahs
08-31-2007, 03:51 PM
skiing, if you take out the quote (50 years ago....) then you have to change the sentence with "ron has been standing up for the youth for 50 years."

Use this opportunity to change "youth" to Americans.

He does not represent just the young people - he represents all of us, even the old farts.

:)

Lord Xar
08-31-2007, 05:55 PM
Here are alot of ron paul quotes that might be suitable:


Ron Paul Quotes
"First President Bush said the New World Order was in tune-- and that's what they were working for. The U.N. is part of that government. They're working very significantly right now for a North American Union. That's why there's a lot of people in Washington right now who don't care too much about our borders. They have a philosophic belief that national sovereignty is not important. It is also the reason I've made the strong suggestion that the U.S. need not be in the U.N. for national security." - 2007 Campaign Stop in Texas

Ron Paul Quotes
"Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven't had capitalism."

Ron Paul Quotes
"War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures."

Ron Paul Quotes
"Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy… Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of
the special interests and their own appetite for big government." - Abolish the Federal Reserve



Ron Paul Quotes
"Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms."

Ron Paul Quotes
"The obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."

Ron Paul Quotes
"A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank."

Ron Paul Quotes
"The much-vaunted Senate “compromise” on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are." - Immigration ‘Compromise’ Sells Out Our Sovereignty

Ron Paul Quotes
"Cliches about supporting the troops are designed to distract from failed policies, policies promoted by powerful special interests that benefit from war, anything to steer the discussion away from the real reasons the war in Iraq will not end anytime soon."

Ron Paul Quotes
"We don’t get our rights because we’re gays or women or minorities. We get our rights from our creator as individuals. So every individual should be treated the same way. If there is homosexual behavior in the military that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. But if there’s heterosexual sexual behavior that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. So it isn’t the issue of homosexuality. It’s the concept and the understanding of individual rights." - Republican Presidential Debate, June 5th, 2007

Ron Paul Quotes
"The large majority of Americans are sick and tired of being overtaxed and despise the income tax and the inheritance tax. The majority of Americans know government programs fail to achieve their goals and waste huge sums of money." - Jan. 31, 2000

Ron Paul Quotes
"It is not our job to remove Saddam Hussein - that is the job of the Iraqi people. It is not our job to remove the Taliban - that is the business of the Afghan people. It is not our job to insist that the next government in Afghanistan include women, no matter how good an idea it is. If this really is an issue, why don't we insist that our friends in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait do the same thing, as well as impose our will on them? Talk about hypocrisy! The mere thought that we fight wars for affirmative action in a country 6,000 miles from home, with no cultural similarities, should insult us all. Of course it does distract us from the issue of an oil pipeline through northern Afghanistan. We need to keep our eye on the target and not be so easily distracted." - Rep. Ron Paul's Heroic House of Representatives Address On The 'War On Terrorism', Dec. 1st, 2001

Ron Paul Quotes
"At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powell anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, she asked him directly: ‘Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?’ Franklin replied, "A republic, if you can keep it." - Ron Paul

Ron Paul Quotes
"The original American patriots were those individuals brave enough to resist with force the oppressive power of King George. I accept the definition of patriotism as that effort to resist oppressive state power. The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility and out of self-interest for himself, his family, and the future of his country to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state." - Patriotism

Ron Paul Quotes
"Under the United States Constitution, the federal government has no authority to hold states "accountable" for their education performance. In the free society envisioned by the founders, schools are held accountable to parents, not federal bureaucrats." - May, 23rd, 2001



and more............



Don't you wish you could support a presidential candidate who would stand up on Capitol Hill and say the federal government wastes too much money, taxes are too high, war should be a last resort, and the freedoms Americans have died for through the centuries ought to be protected? If you vote for Ron Paul in the 2008 Republican presidential primaries, you can. Consider these Ron Paul quotes from the floor of the House of Representatives:


Ron Paul on Big Government

Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger. 3/25/04

The large majority of Americans are sick and tired of being overtaxed and despise the income tax and the inheritance tax. The majority of Americans know government programs fail to achieve their goals and waste huge sums of money. 1/31/00

Under the United States Constitution, the federal government has no authority to hold states "accountable" for their education performance. In the free society envisioned by the founders, schools are held accountable to parents, not federal bureaucrats. 5/23/01

However, despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policies of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing. 7/16/02

Failure of government programs prompts more determined efforts, while the loss of liberty is ignored or rationalized away. Whether it’s the war against poverty, drugs, terrorism, or the current Hitler of the day, an appeal to patriotism is used to convince the people that a little sacrifice of liberty, here and there, is a small price to pay. The results, though, are frightening and will soon become even more so. 12/9/03

Since it’s proven that centralized control over education and medicine has done nothing to improve them, and instead of reassessing these programs, more money is thrown into the same centralized planning, this is much closer to Emerson’s foolish consistency than defending liberty and private property in a consistent and forceful manner while strictly obeying the Constitution. 2/11/04

We need to understand that the more government spends, the more freedom is lost. Instead of simply debating spending levels, we ought to be debating whether the departments, agencies, and programs funded by the budget should exist at all. 3/25/04

One thing is clear: The Founding Fathers never intended a nation where citizens pay nearly half of everything they earn to government. 7/17/01


Ron Paul on Civil Liberties

No matter how well intentioned, an authoritarian government always abuses its powers. 1/31/00

The requirement that law enforcement officials obtain a warrant from a judge before searching private documents is one of the fundamental protections against abuse of the government's power to seize an individual's private documents. 3/15/01

By now it should be clear to every member of Congress that the American people do not want their health information recorded on a database, and they do not wish to be assigned a unique health identifier. 3/15/01

However, monitoring the transactions of every American in order to catch those few who are involved in some sort of illegal activity turns one of the great bulwarks of our liberty, the presumption of innocence, on its head. The federal government has no right to treat all Americans as criminals by spying on their relationship with their doctors, employers, or bankers. In fact, criminal law enforcement is reserved to the state and local governments by the Constitution's Tenth Amendment. 5/22/01

The transformation of the Social Security number into a de facto uniform identifier is a subject of increasing concern to the American people. This is, in large part, because the use of the Social Security number as a standard identifier facilitates the crime of identity theft. 5/22/01

Perhaps the most onerous example of a proposal that creates the illusion of security (yet really promotes servitude) is the plan to force all Americans to carry a national ID card. A uniform national system of identification would allow the federal government to inappropriately monitor the movements and transactions of every citizen. History shows that when government gains the power to monitor the actions of the people, it inevitably uses that power in harmful ways. 11/16/01

One of the most disturbing abuses of the Social Security number is the congressionally-authorized rule forcing parents to get a Social Security number for their newborn children in order to claim them as dependents. Forcing parents to register their children with the state is more like something out of the nightmares of George Orwell than the dreams of a free republic which inspired this nation's founders. 10/7/03

Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. A few have, and others will continue to do so, but too many—both in and out of government—close their eyes to the issue of personal liberty and ignore the fact that endless borrowing to finance endless demands cannot be sustained. True prosperity can only come from a healthy economy and sound money. That can only be achieved in a free society. 7/10/03


Ron Paul on War

If the new nation of America could defeat what was then the most powerful military empire in the world without a draft, there is no reason why we cannot address our current military needs with a voluntary military. 5/9/02

If we can't or won't define the enemy, the cost to fight such a war will be endless. How many American troops are we prepared to lose? How much money are we prepared to spend? How many innocent civilians, in our nation and others, are we willing to see killed? How many American civilians will we jeopardize? How much of our civil liberties are we prepared to give up? 9/25/01

Absent Iraqi involvement in the attack on the United States, I can only wonder why so many in Congress seek to divert resources away from our efforts to bring those who did attack us to justice. 12/19/01

I rise to urge the Congress to think twice before thrusting this nation into a war without merit- one fraught with the danger of escalating into something no American will be pleased with. 9/4/02

There are even good political reasons for not initiating this conflict. War is not popular. It may seem popular in the short run, when there appears to be an immediate victory and everyone is gloating, but war is not popular. People get killed, and body bags end up coming back. War is very unpopular, and it is not the politically smart thing to do. 9/4/02

Finally, there is a compelling moral argument against war in Iraq. Military force is justified only in self-defense; naked aggression is the province of dictators and rogue states. This is the danger of a new "preemptive first strike" doctrine. 9/4/02

I have heard all the arguments on why we must immediately invade and occupy Iraq and have observed that there are only a few hardy souls left in the Congress who are trying to stop this needless, senseless, and dangerous war. 9/18/02

jjschless
08-31-2007, 06:10 PM
"But let it not be said that we did nothing. Let not those who love the power of the welfare/warfare state label the dissenters of authoritarianism as unpatriotic or uncaring. Patriotism is more closely linked to dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security. Understanding the magnificent rewards of a free society makes us unbashful in its promotion, fully realizing that maximum wealth is created and the greatest chance for peace comes from a society respectful of individual liberty." 7/10/03

Slugg
08-31-2007, 06:17 PM
I think it's great.

katao
08-31-2007, 06:26 PM
How about something like this:

Over 200 years ago, the founders of our great nation warned us "the less we use our power the greater it will be"
Ron Paul has devoted a lifetime of service to ensure that we remain that great nation.
As a military veteran, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq so our young servicemen and women wouldn't be unnecessarily put at risk.
Ron Paul believes the billions spent in Iraq would be better spent in the hands of ordinary Americans and their families.
For your nation, for your future -- Ron Paul, Republican for President.


Full context of the quote:
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be."
~Thomas Jefferson

mrchubbs
08-31-2007, 06:54 PM
No changes. Like it as is.

BlCkDeAtH
08-31-2007, 09:12 PM
Ron Paul Quotes
"It is not our job to remove Saddam Hussein - that is the job of the Iraqi people. It is not our job to remove the Taliban - that is the business of the Afghan people. It is not our job to insist that the next government in Afghanistan include women, no matter how good an idea it is. If this really is an issue, why don't we insist that our friends in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait do the same thing, as well as impose our will on them? Talk about hypocrisy! The mere thought that we fight wars for affirmative action in a country 6,000 miles from home, with no cultural similarities, should insult us all. Of course it does distract us from the issue of an oil pipeline through northern Afghanistan. We need to keep our eye on the target and not be so easily distracted." - Rep. Ron Paul's Heroic House of Representatives Address On The 'War On Terrorism', Dec. 1st, 2001
That's a great defense of Ron Paul's stance on pulling out (of Iraq).

The bold part should be cut out.

Also, "We have a lot of goodness in this country, but we shouldn't spread it through the barrel of a gun" is by far my favorite Ron Paul quote.

geomcube
08-31-2007, 09:51 PM
I really like katao's script better:

"Over 200 years ago, the founders of our great nation warned us "the less we use our power the greater it will be"
Ron Paul has devoted a lifetime of service to ensure that we remain that great nation.
As a military veteran, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq so our young servicemen and women wouldn't be unnecessarily put at risk.
Ron Paul believes the billions spent in Iraq would be better spent in the hands of ordinary Americans and their families.
For your nation, for your future -- Ron Paul, Republican for President."


The reference to JFK's famous quote is a little too used, cliched, and doesn't exactly fit Ron Paul. Most people would stop listening at that point because every politician uses that JFK line.

The founder's quote is more Ron Paul and different enough that people might take notice. Also, "the less we use our power the greater it will be" is an awesome line and something everyone but neocons can get excited about.

ronpaulyourmom
08-31-2007, 10:29 PM
Although I was fine with the original, I have to say that katao's is a great improvement and drives home a more powerful & complete message.

It would also be fine to simply use the Thomas Jefferson's original quote and refer to him by name, but either way some variation of Katao's would be awesome.

Ozwest
08-31-2007, 11:01 PM
It would be important to flash a picture of Paul in uniform at the moment "veteran"is said to re-enforce.

slantedview
09-01-2007, 05:41 PM
I really like katao's script better:

"Over 200 years ago, the founders of our great nation warned us "the less we use our power the greater it will be"
Ron Paul has devoted a lifetime of service to ensure that we remain that great nation.
As a military veteran, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq so our young servicemen and women wouldn't be unnecessarily put at risk.
Ron Paul believes the billions spent in Iraq would be better spent in the hands of ordinary Americans and their families.
For your nation, for your future -- Ron Paul, Republican for President."


The reference to JFK's famous quote is a little too used, cliched, and doesn't exactly fit Ron Paul. Most people would stop listening at that point because every politician uses that JFK line.

The founder's quote is more Ron Paul and different enough that people might take notice. Also, "the less we use our power the greater it will be" is an awesome line and something everyone but neocons can get excited about.

skiingff: I know that katao's script isn't necessarily a quote, but I agree with the other's that it's the best replacement for the JFK opening (just changing the opening part).

LibertyEagle
09-01-2007, 05:42 PM
How about something like this:

Over 200 years ago, the founders of our great nation warned us "the less we use our power the greater it will be"
Ron Paul has devoted a lifetime of service to ensure that we remain that great nation.
As a military veteran, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq so our young servicemen and women wouldn't be unnecessarily put at risk.
Ron Paul believes the billions spent in Iraq would be better spent in the hands of ordinary Americans and their families.
For your nation, for your future -- Ron Paul, Republican for President.


Full context of the quote:
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be."
~Thomas Jefferson

This is better, but it still leaves me with the question of what the heck would he do about our attackers? Any way we can work that in there?

MsDoodahs
09-01-2007, 06:01 PM
I also prefer katao's suggestion.

Skiing, is there additional cost to redo the voice over?

MsDoodahs
09-01-2007, 06:02 PM
This is better, but it still leaves me with the question of what the heck would he do about our attackers? Any way we can work that in there?

This is a 30 second spot, isn't it?

I don't think there is room.

This is more for name recognition and getting some curiousity going, if I understand skiing's goal correctly.

Johnnybags
09-01-2007, 06:08 PM
" we must bring the light of consciousness to people who are enslaved by the darkness.

wgadget
09-01-2007, 07:06 PM
Whatever you use, start it out with "We, the people....agree with (RP, Thomas Jefferson, etc) when they say,'_______________'

A chance to say FIRST THING that the ad is paid for by volunteers.

skiingff
09-01-2007, 07:11 PM
Whatever you use, start it out with "We, the people....agree with (RP, Thomas Jefferson, etc) when they say,'_______________'

A chance to say FIRST THING that the ad is paid for by volunteers.

I'm sorry, but while these may be good suggestions, they don't really help.

There are so many people saying "whatever you do, do this, don't do that, and do that over this while considering those but not these and hey put this here and that over there." It's all too confusing. I can't mingle 20 different ideas into one script, but we can decide on which script is best.

So if you could come up with a voiceover, post it in the other voiceover thread, and we will vote on the best one.

Thunderbolt
09-01-2007, 07:13 PM
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Thunderbolt
09-01-2007, 07:24 PM
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LibertyEagle
09-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Skiingff... I sent you a PM. Please reply.

ladyliberty
09-01-2007, 07:46 PM
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. ~ Abraham Lincoln

MsDoodahs
09-01-2007, 07:50 PM
HELL NO.

No Lincoln quotes.

Skiing, don't use a Lincoln quote.

Lincoln was an evil vile bastard.

NO LINCOLN QUOTES.

ladyliberty
09-01-2007, 08:02 PM
All righty - How about Reagan then? :D

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan

Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Ronald Reagan

Going to college offered me the chance to play football for four more years.
Ronald Reagan

Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.
Ronald Reagan

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
Ronald Reagan

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
Ronald Reagan

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
Ronald Reagan

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan

Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
Ronald Reagan