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DXDoug
08-16-2008, 09:31 PM
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iHm_il0VpUD_F7REiip6c0WF36QAD92J8MF00

Appears Hawaii natives arent waiting to tell usa to give the island back

Any who I think great try and keep fighting

nullvalu
08-16-2008, 09:38 PM
Sweet. Next the Eskimos will be wanting Alaska back. More power to 'em.

ronpaulhawaii
08-16-2008, 09:53 PM
This is a long story, I have been part of the second group "The lawful Hawaiian Kingdom Government" since 1999. We have done everything lawfully. I don't have the time at the moment to take much part in this discussion but there is interesting reading at

http://www.alohaquest.com/archive/archive.htm

including this from Grover Cleveland


To My People: Whereas, my good and great sister and fellow sovereign, her gracious majesty, Liliuokalani, queen of Hawai'i, has been wickedly and unlawfully dethroned by the machinations of Americans and persons of American descent in those islands, being instigated thereto by the devil, one John L. Stevens; and whereas, my well-concieved plans for the restoration of her sacred majesty have not had the result they deserved but her majesty is still defrauded of her legal rights by her refractory and rebellious subjects, and her position is a just cause of sympathy and alarm; now, therefore, I, Grover Cleveland, President of the United States, do hereby ordain and appoint the last day of April next as a day of solemn fasting, humiliation and prayer.
Let my people humble themselves and repent for their injustice to me and my great and good sister, and pray, without distinction of color, for her speedy return to the throne and the discomfiture of the miserable herd of missionaries and their sons, her enemies and traducers.
Long Live Liliuokalani, the de jure queen of Hawaii


Done at our mansion in Washington this 25th day of February, 1894.
Grover Cleveland
A true copy. Attest,
Walter Q. Gresham,
Secretary of State
Nothing to joke about...

jbuttell
08-16-2008, 10:44 PM
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iHm_il0VpUD_F7REiip6c0WF36QAD92J8MF00

Appears Hawaii natives arent waiting to tell usa to give the island back

Any who I think great try and keep fighting

As much as I despise the idea of a monarchy, I wish more people would stand up for what they believe in. Each of the states needs to regain their sense of sovereignty. In this day and age, with our country being stripped of all of it's exceptional qualities as listed in our Bill of Rights... perhaps secession would be a healthy thing.

noxagol
08-17-2008, 05:45 AM
As much as I despise the idea of a monarchy, I wish more people would stand up for what they believe in. Each of the states needs to regain their sense of sovereignty. In this day and age, with our country being stripped of all of it's exceptional qualities as listed in our Bill of Rights... perhaps secession would be a healthy thing.

Secession right now would be a godsend and I would leave this instant with every possession I have (even my house since its on wheels!) to that state. Unless it is California.