Larry Craig audio w/ officer after bathroom incident

[remaxjon]

http://www.wben.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=08262

interesting

[Oddball]

Q: What's the difference between a procrastinator and Larry Craig??





A: One stalls for time and the other makes time for stalls.

[Cowlesy]

I just feel bad for Mrs. Craig. It must be a total nightmare for their family.

[libertarian4321]

Nothing says "family values" like sex with strange men on a public toilet.

If this guy needed a "family values" quickie, why didn't he just get a room and call an escort?

[BenIsForRon]

I loved the officer's comments towards the end. "No wonder our country's going down the tubes". Fuckin A, we need way more officers with this kind of attitude.

[Nefertiti]

What clinched it for me that he is guilty was that he claimed to be reaching down to pick up a piece of toilet paper from off the ground behind the toilet. Who in their right mind would do that not knowing where that piece of toilet paper was previously, unless they were paid to clean the bathroom?

As for the wife, at least she knows now and can get tested for any diseases he might have given her. Or perhaps she already knows but chooses to ignore it. I know A LOT of men who lead lives like this and in some cases I believe the wife DOES know. In other cases, the wife is probably the last to know.

[Thomas Jefferson]

While it's obvious that Craig is lying, I do agree with him that cops should be out looking for criminals who are actually a threat to society, not using taxpayer dollars to bust someone for soliciting sex in a bathroom. Every time a story about sex and politics comes out people go crazy...people need to get a life and cops need to start doing their job.

[TheEvilDetector]

Whether or not Craig is telling the truth, his political career is over. These kinds of things should not be made public.
Imagine if Craig IS telling the truth, how it would feel losing everything you have worked for your whole life over that incident
because of the publicity?

[Nefertiti]

But having anonymous sex in bathrooms is a threat to society. Either party could infect the other, either party could infect their wife in turn with a deadly disease, a deadly disease that taxpayers might have to foot the bill for or at least if the person has insurance will cause all of us to pay more for our insurance. Sexually transmitted diseases can cost society as a whole.

[TheEvilDetector]

But having anonymous sex in bathrooms is a threat to society. Either party could infect the other, either party could infect their wife in turn with a deadly disease, a deadly disease that taxpayers might have to foot the bill for or at least if the person has insurance will cause all of us to pay more for our insurance. Sexually transmitted diseases can cost society as a whole.

You have missed the point of my post entirely my friend.

[Thomas Jefferson]

But having anonymous sex in bathrooms is a threat to society. Either party could infect the other, either party could infect their wife in turn with a deadly disease, a deadly disease that taxpayers might have to foot the bill for or at least if the person has insurance will cause all of us to pay more for our insurance. Sexually transmitted diseases can cost society as a whole.

I hope you are joking because that was quite retarded...but if not:

- It's their personal choice if they want to have unprotected sex and risk contracting an STD...it's not a right or burden of society to restrict their right to be careless.

- Taxpayers should stand up for their right not to have to help anyone they don't want to.

- Your fault you let your insurance company rip you off. Everything raises insurance costs and STD's are a small part of that.

[BillyDkid]

I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously the man is a hypocrit and a slime, but, you know, arresting people tapping their foot or whatever signal they might use - that's total bullshit. Even if he asked the officer straight out if he wanted to have sex - it's still bullshit. If the guy was caught actually waving his dick in front of people's faces or blowing somebody in public - well, that would be a crime or at least extremely bad manners. I have always been bothered by this Victorian hysteria over sex that leads people to this kind of behavior. It's like we are a country of 5 year olds.

[BillyDkid]

But having anonymous sex in bathrooms is a threat to society. Either party could infect the other, either party could infect their wife in turn with a deadly disease, a deadly disease that taxpayers might have to foot the bill for or at least if the person has insurance will cause all of us to pay more for our insurance. Sexually transmitted diseases can cost society as a whole.That reminds me of a Cops episode I saw the other night. The officer was talking like he was performing this noble service - preventing the spread of disease and protecting families. Just leave people the fuck alone for God's sake. It is not up to the government to control our moral or sexual lives.

[Nefertiti]

I hope you are joking because that was quite retarded...but if not:

- It's their personal choice if they want to have unprotected sex and risk contracting an STD...it's not a right or burden of society to restrict their right to be careless.

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I was absolutely serious. It may be your personal choice to have unprotected sex but it isn't your wife's personal choice if you secretly do that behind her back and give her a fatal disease. If you think having sex outside of marriage secretly when you are married is all about personal freedom yet you can come home and put your penis and the viruses you contracted inside your wife and not call that a violation of her rights then you have a twisted sense of personal rights. If someone wishes to enter into a government-sanctioned marriage contract then why not require that they honor that by remaining faithful to their spouse?

[angelatc]

In this forum we're far more likely to insist that the contract shouldn't be the business of the government. It is between 2 parties.

If party A cheats and party B is physically harmed, then party B can sue party A.

I'm not big on punishing people because something bad might happen.

[Green Mountain Boy]

While it's obvious that Craig is lying, I do agree with him that cops should be out looking for criminals who are actually a threat to society, not using taxpayer dollars to bust someone for soliciting sex in a bathroom. Every time a story about sex and politics comes out people go crazy...people need to get a life and cops need to start doing their job.

While I agree that cops should be busy doing other things besides lurking around bathrooms, I feel that members of government like this ARE a threat to society and it was just luck that the officer encountered Craig.

They are a threat to society because these types of individuals are prime targets for blackmail and that is a national security threat. This is a point that isn't brought up too often and is overlooked.

[Kuldebar]

Larry Craig may be a hypocrite, a dirt bag and a liar or just unlucky, but objectively speaking, he's only guilty of tapping his foot along with someone else's and fluttering his fingers.

Even with a vivid imagination, I can't call that a lewd act.

Now the cops will say such behavior can be construed to be a precursor to a lewd act in a public place, but I'd say catch some one in the act instead of "construing".

After all, scratching your nose doesn't necessarily mean you were going to eat boogers.

[BenIsForRon]

I totally believe prostitution should be legal, but if airports don't want it happening in their buildings they should let their security take care of it. That said, I'm so glad this guy got busted and this tape got out. Just more ammo to bring about the mental revolution in this country about who is actually running it.

[Thomas Jefferson]

I was absolutely serious. It may be your personal choice to have unprotected sex but it isn't your wife's personal choice if you secretly do that behind her back and give her a fatal disease. If you think having sex outside of marriage secretly when you are married is all about personal freedom yet you can come home and put your penis and the viruses you contracted inside your wife and not call that a violation of her rights then you have a twisted sense of personal rights. If someone wishes to enter into a government-sanctioned marriage contract then why not require that they honor that by remaining faithful to their spouse?

I see. Sorry for saying it was retarded, my first reaction was that it was absurd the government should have that right. But you make a good point that marriage is a government contract. If I ever get married there will be no government involvement because I consider government involvement in marriage a ridiculous concept. Trust is a risky pact you enter with marriage. Like the above poster said, airport security should be the ultimate authority on this. Cops getting involved in our sex lives is crossing the personal freedom line, and yes I also am against prostitution laws.

Anyway, isn't what was going on here just a solicitation for, uh, hand sex? The logistics of doing anything beyond that in an airport bathroom elude me. I think Craig was just looking for a quick "pull" before getting on his plane, not meeting up at a hotel later (after dinner and a movie of course).

[BillyDkid]

I see. Sorry for saying it was retarded, my first reaction was that it was absurd the government should have that right. But you make a good point that marriage is a government contract. If I ever get married there will be no government involvement because I consider government involvement in marriage a ridiculous concept. Trust is a risky pact you enter with marriage. Like the above poster said, airport security should be the ultimate authority on this. Cops getting involved in our sex lives is crossing the personal freedom line, and yes I also am against prostitution laws.

Anyway, isn't what was going on here just a solicitation for, uh, hand sex? The logistics of doing anything beyond that in an airport bathroom elude me. I think Craig was just looking for a quick "pull" before getting on his plane, not meeting up at a hotel later (after dinner and a movie of course).
Of course, government should not be involved in marriage at all.