I.O.U.S.A.: One Nation, Under Stress, In Debt. (a new movie with ron paul in it)

[torchbearer]

Here is the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=HBo2xQIWHiM

Here is the website: http://www.iousathemovie.com/

Download a copy of the State of the Union's finances: http://www.iousathemovie.com/download/


I don't remember if I saw this info posted on this forum yet, but it looks like a great movie and something we should ask our local theaters to carry.

[Joseph Hart]

Hopefully we can get the High Tide as a preview for the film. Please visit my thread for more info! Urge the Campaign for Liberty to get this done! Must be negotiated tonight! http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=148753

[LibertyEagle]

Yes, but be wary of the organization that funded this movie. It was established by none other than Pete Peterson. While the movie may be good, I am very concerned where they will be trying to lead people.

Establishment Leader Says He’ll Combat Debt Problem

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7-jbs-news-feed/2032-establishment-leader-says-hell-combat-debt-problem-

[gilliganscorner]

This movie will be the economic version of an "Inconvenient Truth".

This is the statists trying to hijack the solution. You can bet they won't recommend limiting government, abolishing the Fed, and returning to sound money.

Globalists are what globalists do.

[AdamT]

We're working on changing the ending of The High Tide to a new CFL graphic. It would be sweet if it played before IOUSA!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/adamtro/CFL_end_plate.jpg

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1569995&postcount=16

[torchbearer]

This movie will be the economic version of an "Inconvenient Truth".

This is the statists trying to hijack the solution. You can bet they won't recommend limiting government, abolishing the Fed, and returning to sound money.

Globalists are what globalists do.

I'm going to wait and see the full movie before making unfounded conclusions.
If it was the elites putting this together to destroy our movement, i'm sure they would have it in every theater and on cable tomorrow morning.

Not all rich people are out to get us, and to have friendship on a global scale/globalism is not a new world order agenda. This idea was championed by the libertarian party.

I see benefits to bringing this issue to the fore-front of common Man's thought.

[gilliganscorner]

Here is Peterson cooing over it:


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSi411UWhgkg

[LibertyEagle]

I'm going to wait and see the full movie before making unfounded conclusions.
If it was the elites putting this together to destroy our movement, i'm sure they would have it in every theater and on cable tomorrow morning.

Not all rich people are out to get us, and to have friendship on a global scale/globalism is not a new world order agenda. This idea was championed by the libertarian party.

I see benefits to bringing this issue to the fore-front of common Man's thought.

Torch, I agree that we may be able to use this movie, but if you think Peterson is a benign chap, you need to check into him further. He is a major one-worlder. It has nothing to do with how much money the man has. He has been an advocate of one world government for years.

[gilliganscorner]

I'm going to wait and see the full movie before making unfounded conclusions.
If it was the elites putting this together to destroy our movement, i'm sure they would have it in every theater and on cable tomorrow morning.

Not all rich people are out to get us, and to have friendship on a global scale/globalism is not a new world order agenda. This idea was championed by the libertarian party.

I see benefits to bringing this issue to the fore-front of common Man's thought.

Common men think? ;) No they are going to scare the sheep in order to cry out for a solution...One that Peterson's ilk would only be to happy to provide...

Don't get me wrong, torchbearer. I am pretty sure that the message will be accurate, however, it is the solution I worry about:


The nonprofit will help promote the film's release and offer free DVDs of ``I.O.U.S.A.'' to the public after its theatrical run, said foundation spokeswoman Elizabeth Wilner. It will also spend $5.3 million in grants to help young people learn about public and personal finance.

They will not teach about fractional reserve banking, the perils of fiat currency, and all of the government debacles that got us here in the first place.

I would love if RP supporters went to the movie theaters with an "addendum" flyers they could distribute to watchers. The flyers could contain:

1) A thank you for watching.
2) What the movie had right/wrong.
3) The real solution to the problem.
4) A guide to "things to watch out for" in media w.r.t them attempting to "reveal" the solution.

My debased two cents.

[torchbearer]

Don't get me wrong, torchbearer. I am pretty sure that the message will be accurate, however, it is the solution I worry about:



They will not teach about fractional reserve banking, the perils of fiat currency, and all of the government debacles that got us here in the first place.

I would love if RP supporters went to the movie theaters with an "addendum" flyers they could distribute to watchers. The flyers could contain:

1) A thank you for watching.
2) What the movie had right/wrong.
3) The real solution to the problem.
4) A guide to "things to watch out for" in media w.r.t them attempting to "reveal" the solution.

My debased two cents.

If we could raise enough money, we could put together an I.O.U.S.A. part 2 staring G. Edward Griffin.
His seminar on the "reality of money" is 4 1/2 hours long ( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2618811931680926682 ) and is a brief survey of all the things you want to discuss, but to get into the details would take a 5 part movie of almost 15 hours of information.

Part of the educational outreach should be focused on making films.

[Joseph Hart]

We're working on changing the ending of The High Tide to a new CFL graphic. It would be sweet if it played before IOUSA!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/adamtro/CFL_end_plate.jpg

lol, way ahead of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thf4rzZ_Vds

[torchbearer]

AdamT, are we ready to launch our own movie studio?

[gilliganscorner]

Then again, they could release this movie on the same weekend as "Dumb and Dumber III" get released - that'll stop ticket sales :D

[Joseph Hart]

Then again, they could release this movie on the same weekend as "Dumb and Dumber III" get released - that'll stop ticket sales :D

Within 2 weeks it will have 1,000,000 views. We need High Tide as a preview to this target audience!

[Joseph Hart]

AdamT, are we ready to launch our own movie studio?

Can I join?

[torchbearer]

Can I join?

If you are ok with being dirt poor and getting very little gratuity in the form of money...
We are developing Hollywood South in Louisiana. Movie industry is moving in... so are some celebs... Our universities are constantly have calls for extras.

[slacker921]

fwiw.. CNN had an author on today at lunch (I'm not going to give his name or his book and lend him anything) talking about the financial crisis. He pinned it all on the limited federal regulations to control lending. He was going on about how we needed more regulations and more involvement by the Federal Reserve and that the "free market" didn't work out well and caused all of this mess.
- no mention that the Federal Reserve mucking with the dollar has caused any of this mess.
- no mention that the bailouts are going to postpone and worsen the inevitable crash
- no mention that spending by our Federal gubmint is totally out of control

They're pushing hard to brainwash the masses.. their solution is going to be bigger government, more control, and most likely a single currency shared with US-Mexico-Canada. The general public is going to bite this hook, line, and sinker if things continue the way they're going.

[torchbearer]

fwiw.. CNN had an author on today at lunch (I'm not going to give his name or his book and lend him anything) talking about the financial crisis. He pinned it all on the limited federal regulations to control lending. He was going on about how we needed more regulations and more involvement by the Federal Reserve and that the "free market" didn't work out well and caused all of this mess.
- no mention that the Federal Reserve mucking with the dollar has caused any of this mess.
- no mention that the bailouts are going to postpone and worsen the inevitable crash
- no mention that spending by our Federal gubmint is totally out of control

They're pushing hard to brainwash the masses.. their solution is going to be bigger government, more control, and most likely a single currency shared with US-Mexico-Canada. The general public is going to bite this hook, line, and sinker if things continue the way they're going.

Um, if you are broke, how can you pay for bigger government?
If you create regulations, you create an agency to enforce it or enlarge another agency to cover it.
How can you fight out of control government spending with more government spending?

[gilliganscorner]

fwiw.. CNN had an author on today at lunch (I'm not going to give his name or his book and lend him anything) talking about the financial crisis. He pinned it all on the limited federal regulations to control lending. He was going on about how we needed more regulations and more involvement by the Federal Reserve and that the "free market" didn't work out well and caused all of this mess.
- no mention that the Federal Reserve mucking with the dollar has caused any of this mess.
- no mention that the bailouts are going to postpone and worsen the inevitable crash
- no mention that spending by our Federal gubmint is totally out of control

They're pushing hard to brainwash the masses.. their solution is going to be bigger government, more control, and most likely a single currency shared with US-Mexico-Canada. The general public is going to bite this hook, line, and sinker if things continue the way they're going.

Yup. From the IOUSA website:


With surgical precision, Creadon interweaves archival footage and economic data to paint a vivid and alarming profile of America's current economic situation. The ultimate power of I.O.U.S.A. is that the film moves beyond doomsday rhetoric to proffer potential financial scenarios and propose solutions about how we can recreate a fiscally sound nation for future generations.

Some people say the China Olympics is the equivalent of a debutante at a ball. This event is hoped by the officials that it will change the perception of China from being a second world player into the world's superpower. Economically and Militarily wise.

I am not saying it is or isn't. Watch for the shift in rhetoric.

If it does happen, you don't think they are gonna sit on all those US dollars and watch them devalue, do you? It'll be a race to the bottom.

The only way we could keep up is by combining North American's three countries together, so we are a (says with deep voice) "strong and mighty union", right?

I'd better stop now before I get called a "moonbat". Hmm. Haven't been called that since I suggested the Bush Administration was running secret prisions...:D

[Joseph Hart]

Yup. From the IOUSA website:



Some people say the China Olympics is the equivalent of a debutante at a ball. This event is hoped by the officials that it will change the perception of China from being a second world player into the world's superpower. Economically and Militarily wise.

I am not saying it is or isn't. Watch for the shift in rhetoric.

If it does happen, you don't think they are gonna sit on all those US dollars and watch them devalue, do you? It'll be a race to the bottom.

The only way we could keep up is by combining North American's three countries together, so we are a (says with deep voice) "strong and mighty union", right?

I'd better stop now before I get called a "moonbat". Hmm. Haven't been called that since I suggested the Bush Administration was running secret prisions...:D

I look at it this way... Its a film to get people thinking. If we get this ad preview before the film itll really attract people to Ron Paul

[ClayTrainor]

I look at it this way... Its a film to get people thinking. If we get this ad preview before the film itll really attract people to Ron Paul

Hell yes,

nothing but good can come from this movie, imo

[Ninja Homer]

I was just doing a little research on this.

http://www.agorafinancial.com/iousa.html
"The critically-acclaimed documentary film I.O.U.S.A. was concieved of, co-written and executive produced by Agora Financial's Addison Wiggin. In July 2008, the film was acquired by The Peter G. Peterson Foundation. It will be featured in a Live Premier with Warren Buffet, Pete Peterson and David Walker in 400 theatres around the nation on August 21st, 2008."

Peter Peterson didn't create the movie, he just recently bought it. Addison Wiggin was the major player in the creation of this movie.

Addison Wiggin's bio:
http://www.agorafinancial.com/addisonwiggin/addisonwiggin.html

Here's some articles by Addison Wiggin at lewrockwell.com:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/wiggin/wiggin-arch.html

This video goes more in depth on what I.O.U.S.A. is about:
http://video.sundance.org/?fr_story=bc1d92e6eed80caf587216a30c1fb4ff2b86a8f1&rf=bm

The nationwide live premier is on August 21st. That would be a really good opportunity to pass out CFL materials. Here's the list of theaters it will be premiering at:
http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=144

Who knows why Peter Peterson bought the movie... maybe it was just a good investment? Hopefully they didn't edit the crap out of it before it plays in theaters. If they did, I'm sure we'll hear about it, and the original will somehow make its way to the public.

[torchbearer]

The nationwide live premier is on August 21st. That would be a really good opportunity to pass out CFL materials. Here's the list of theaters it will be premiering at:
http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=144



+1

[muzzled dogg]

i'm there dude

[4RP08inKCMO]

I was just doing a little research on this.

http://www.agorafinancial.com/iousa.html
"The critically-acclaimed documentary film I.O.U.S.A. was concieved of, co-written and executive produced by Agora Financial's Addison Wiggin. In July 2008, the film was acquired by The Peter G. Peterson Foundation. It will be featured in a Live Premier with Warren Buffet, Pete Peterson and David Walker in 400 theatres around the nation on August 21st, 2008."

Peter Peterson didn't create the movie, he just recently bought it. Addison Wiggin was the major player in the creation of this movie.

Addison Wiggin's bio:
http://www.agorafinancial.com/addisonwiggin/addisonwiggin.html

Here's some articles by Addison Wiggin at lewrockwell.com:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/wiggin/wiggin-arch.html

This video goes more in depth on what I.O.U.S.A. is about:
http://video.sundance.org/?fr_story=bc1d92e6eed80caf587216a30c1fb4ff2b86a8f1&rf=bm

The nationwide live premier is on August 21st. That would be a really good opportunity to pass out CFL materials. Here's the list of theaters it will be premiering at:
http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=144

Who knows why Peter Peterson bought the movie... maybe it was just a good investment? Hopefully they didn't edit the crap out of it before it plays in theaters. If they did, I'm sure we'll hear about it, and the original will somehow make its way to the public.

Good find.

The movie seems legit to me and I'm excited about KC being one of the premiere cities.

[rightofpeople]

Opens Aug 22, 2008

One movie, in a long time, I am actually looking forward to seeing.

...besides Indy 4, but what a disaster that was.

The difference is this will intentionally focus on disaster.

[hope7134]

Subject: "I.O.U.S.A.:" Can you handle the truth?
Dear Decision Maker:
Did you know that the federal government is in a $53 trillion financial hole? A hole that's growing by $2 trillion to $3 trillion every year? That amounts to a burden of $175,000 on each and every American citizen.

These frightening facts are spelled out in detail in "I.O.U.S.A.," a new Sundance-selected documentary that also offers possible solutions. I would strongly urge you to visit www.IOUSATheMovie.com to learn more, and to visit www.PGPF.org to get the full details from the companion "State of the Union's Finances" report.

This film has been called the "Inconvenient Truth" for America's looming fiscal crisis, and with good reason. It directly addresses the four key deficits confronting America: budget, savings, balance of payments/trade, and perhaps most crucial of all, our leadership deficit.

My question to you is, will you help us overcome this leadership deficit? Will you learn the facts about our growing fiscal challenges, or will you wait until crisis hits? What's coming down the pike could make the subprime mortgage problem seem like a speed-bump.

Please read the report at www.PGPF.org, please take the time to watch this powerful film, and then please use YOUR power to do something about this problem.

Sincerely,

Your name
Your street address
City, State Zip

P.S. -- "I.O.U.S.A" premieres nationwide in theaters on August 21st, but you can watch the trailer now at www.IOUSATheMovie.com.


From Pete Peterson, website: http://www.pgpf.org/
Our Mission
We are dedicated to increasing public awareness of the nature and urgency of several key challenges threatening America's future, and to accelerating action on them. To address these challenges successfully, we will work to bring Americans together to find sensible, long-term solutions that transcend age, party lines and ideological divides in order to achieve real results.

[rp4prez]

Guess who bought the rights to this movie? Yep the CFR. ugh....

[Carole]

Peterson Institute is promoting the NAU according to this article:


Establishment Leader Says He’ll Combat Debt Problem


http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7-jbs-news-feed/2032-establishment-leader-says-hell-combat-debt-problem-

Written by John F. McManus
Monday, 14 July 2008 12:30


"Everyone knows that our nation is awash in red ink. Peter G. Peterson, perhaps second only to David Rockefeller as the leader of the liberal Establishment that has steered the nation into massive indebtedness, claims he will alert Americans to the problem. But the people didn’t overspend, government did.
Peter G. Peterson, left, has formed a foundation ostensibly with the goal of fighting government bloat.
Sending a fox to guard the chicken house has never made any sense. In like manner, no one should expect a leader of the liberal Establishment to reverse the nation’s suicidal fiscal condition created by the liberal Establishment. Recently retired after 22 years as Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, the very seat of the Establishment, former commerce secretary Peter G. Peterson has created a foundation he named after himself to address the government’s massive and worsening indebtedness

Last year, Peterson’s private equity firm known as the Blackstone Group went public and he quickly reaped $1.8 billion selling its stock. That he benefited greatly from tax breaks other Americans don’t enjoy isn’t well known. But Economic Policy Institute economist Jared Bernstein sees a contradiction when this supposed debt fighter skirts normal taxation. Of Peterson’s good fortune, he stated, “Those loopholes bleed billions of dollars from the federal treasury. It makes him a weird spokesperson for the cause.”

The Peterson Foundation hired former U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker to serve as its president. A consistently sound opponent of massive federal debt, Walker will serve under a board of directors that includes, Peterson, his wife Joan Ganz Cooney, and their son Michael Peterson, each a CFR member. Good luck David Walker! As one small indication of what he’s up against, the most recent issue of the CFR’s Foreign Affairs journal features a recommendation by Robert A. Pastor calling on our nation to join with Canada to create a “North American investment fund to reduce the income disparity between Mexico and its northern neighbors.” He would like to see it start at $20 billion per year. It will take many billions (trillions?) to bring Mexicans up to a standard of living found to their north. No one should expect the Peterson Foundation to criticize the Pastor plan.

Peterson’s brand new foundation unveiled its freshly produced documentary entitled “I.O.U.S.A.” on July 14 in Washington. Scheduled for showing in 400 theaters starting next month, the film will focus on the huge imbalance between federal promises and federal income. Making an off-hand reference to the title of Al Gore’s feature film about global warming, Walker commented, “People need to see it – it represents the real inconvenient truth.” The film is designed to alert young Americans to the debt burden they face as they grow older.

In 1992, Peterson enlisted Senate veterans Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts and Warren Rudman of New Hampshire in a deficit-fighting venture called the Concord Coalition. Unlikely candidates to fight federal indebtedness, Tsongas and Rudman had each compiled records as big government spenders. In its 16 years, the Concord Coalition has accomplished nothing in holding down the ever-larger deficits and ever-threatening unfunded promises contained in Social Security, Medicare and other so-called “entitlements.” The new Peterson Foundation will likely produce similar results.

Peterson wants the American people to believe that he’s a hard-nosed conservative who can be counted on to champion fiscal responsibility, less government and lower taxes. From 1977 to 1980, however, he served as one of two U.S. members (out of a total of 18) of the Brandt Commission, a project of the Socialist International (SI). Actually, the fifth try at organizing the world according to Karl Marx, SI tapped the former chancellor of Germany, Willy Brandt, to lead in producing a new blueprint for international socialism. The Brandt Commissions recommendations, announced at a gathering held at the United Nations, were completely consistent with what can be found in The Communist Manifesto. Peterson would prefer that his participation in this outfit wasn’t known.

It would be terrific if the newly formed Peterson Foundation could lead a campaign designed to stem our nation’s headlong rush toward a fiscal meltdown. But, with Peter G. Peterson leading it, don’t expect more than occasional bursts of indignation and little change. "

[Carole]

Common men think? ;) No they are going to scare the sheep in order to cry out for a solution...One that Peterson's ilk would only be to happy to provide...

Don't get me wrong, torchbearer. I am pretty sure that the message will be accurate, however, it is the solution I worry about:



They will not teach about fractional reserve banking, the perils of fiat currency, and all of the government debacles that got us here in the first place.

I would love if RP supporters went to the movie theaters with an "addendum" flyers they could distribute to watchers. The flyers could contain:

1) A thank you for watching.
2) What the movie had right/wrong.
3) The real solution to the problem.
4) A guide to "things to watch out for" in media w.r.t them attempting to "reveal" the solution.

My debased two cents.

I tend to agree with you and the solution could be dangerous. I hope Walker is not being used. I thought he was one of the good guys trying to do the right thing. Mexico is very corrupt also and any joint "fund" worries me. It is bad enough here in US. I do not like to think how much worse it can be in a joint operation with Mexico and Canada. He is truly promoting the NAU!!!!

Sounds like he is preaching, "I am here to save you." Perhaps a wolf in sheep's clothing. :eek:


"The Peterson Foundation hired former U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker to serve as its president. A consistently sound opponent of massive federal debt, Walker will serve under a board of directors that includes, Peterson, his wife Joan Ganz Cooney, and their son Michael Peterson, each a CFR member. Good luck David Walker! As one small indication of what he’s up against, the most recent issue of the CFR’s Foreign Affairs journal features a recommendation by Robert A. Pastor calling on our nation to join with Canada to create a “North American investment fund to reduce the income disparity between Mexico and its northern neighbors.” He would like to see it start at $20 billion per year. It will take many billions (trillions?) to bring Mexicans up to a standard of living found to their north. No one should expect the Peterson Foundation to criticize the Pastor plan. "

[Carole]

What if the Peterson Institute with its CFR members is a front to suck people in. Do not be too quick to accept MR. Peterson and his ilk at their word.. It could well be that this is another tactic to lure in the "poor, dumbed-down people/sheeple."

I cannot put my trust into this organization. Please be very leery of such organizations proposing their solutions.

Remember, the best solutions, the correct solutions are much more likely to come from the people, from those not highly connected, from those who are not the elite. The elite is its own brotherhood. See where they have led us to date. Do NOT trust them.

[Carole]

Yup. From the IOUSA website:



Some people say the China Olympics is the equivalent of a debutante at a ball. This event is hoped by the officials that it will change the perception of China from being a second world player into the world's superpower. Economically and Militarily wise.

I am not saying it is or isn't. Watch for the shift in rhetoric.

If it does happen, you don't think they are gonna sit on all those US dollars and watch them devalue, do you? It'll be a race to the bottom.

The only way we could keep up is by combining North American's three countries together, so we are a (says with deep voice) "strong and mighty union", right?

I'd better stop now before I get called a "moonbat". Hmm. Haven't been called that since I suggested the Bush Administration was running secret prisions...:D

I think the Campaign for Liberty should NOT associate itself with this film.

It sounds like propaganda to brainwash the people into NAU, more Fed Reserve power and bigger government.

Peterson Institute sham organization of CFR members, created solely to help "re-educate" the masses and prepare them for the NAU.

They KNOW the people are worried, even scared--after all, that was their intent!!! It is and this movie may be the economic 9/11 with which they will destroy completely our sovereignty. They always use and subvert the organizations for liberty that spring up. I believe this is another attempt to use the freedom movement against itself.

[Carole]

PLease do NOT sign this petition until you have seen the movie and ONLY IF it convinces you that this is not a tool to destroy liberty and sovereignty.

[rightofpeople]

Carole, your quote from the JBS article was hard-hitting.

Thanks for posting it, it really puts everything into perspective; this film will undoubtedly be a propaganda piece hiding the real issue.

[Carole]

I am afraid so. Disappointing since I thought David Walker really "got it". I was convinced he was a true conservative, but it looks as though he is now a shill for the Peterson Institute.

:(

[lucius]

Wonderful input:

http://www.freedom-force.org/pics/FabianCrest.gif

A wolf in sheep's clothing--one of the symbols for the Fabian [Socialist] Society:

"We will see that the Fabian family, defined later, gave birth shortly after the 1914-1918 war to twins, one in London: the ROYAL INSTITUTE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS (RIIA), the other in New York: the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (CFR), which became the key players in international politics, with its wars, compromises, deceptions and its march towards internationalism...To impose on them a New Order. And this takeover comes from the Clubs and societies called into question here...various details about the Fabian Society and its children in London and New York, then their discreet expansion, from 1927-1977, into about thirty world capitals...will trace its history, the fundamental principles and the lists of the BILDERBERG GROUP, and of the TRILATERAL COMMISSION, which in 1954 and 1973 respectively were born of a clique of the RIIA and the CFR. With evidence of their role behind the scenes on the world stage...Of course, a dozen "bubbles" which revolve round the internationalist nebula..." Facts and Chronicles Denied to the Public: by Pierre De Villemarest, Daniele De Villemarest, William Douglas Wolf (ISBN: 1904997007).

[The_Orlonater]

Oh sweet, is this going to be in theaters.

[Joseph Hart]

Oh sweet, is this going to be in theaters.

http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=144

[Stevo_Chill]

http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=144

This looks like it will be a good movie.

[westmich4paul]

Yes, but be wary of the organization that funded this movie. It was established by none other than Pete Peterson. While the movie may be good, I am very concerned where they will be trying to lead people.

Establishment Leader Says He’ll Combat Debt Problem

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7-jbs-news-feed/2032-establishment-leader-says-hell-combat-debt-problem-
I feel that even if the people that created this movie do not share the same belief on what we should do about the problem as we do at least they made a full length feature movie explaining the "problem" to the masses of this country. Something the Campaign could have easily done after the first money bomb success.

At least they are trying to reach the masses with one swift blow. I have had to watch McCain after McCain ad since Dec plastered all over my t.v. knowing the guy haden't a quarter of the money we had for doing such a thing, this IMHO IS WHY PEOPLE BECAME VERY DISENFRANCHISED WITH THIS CAMPAIGN.

We should have been putting this stuff out on national t.v. ads since Guy Faux Day AND should not have quit until we ran out of money. Now we have another group doing what we should have been doing all along awakening the country and we are concerned about how they are telling people we have to get out of this?

I am recommending my meetup groups as well as others in my surrounding area here in Michigan get CFL members to hand out lit when the movies let out. Ask the theatre if they will allow you to hand out lit nicely, if they do then great if not THE GET cfl people in these theatres before the shows to lit drop the movie seats in the theatres, get them in the parking lots law permitting, sign waves promoting the movie and promoting the CFL AS HAVING THE ANSWERS!

Let this be the tool that the Campaign should have given us back in Nov to awaken a vast amount of the American Public to at least be educated on what we can do, how we should start changing how we look at our choices for presidents, ect.

Do not criticise these guys because you do not like their solution when we had the chance to do the very same thing and we dropped the ball. Also if you haven't given to the CFL yet please do so, money is not rolling in like it was back in Nov. I can understand why and the frustration of many as to how the Campaign spent our hard earned donations. But still give even if just a little, if you still are not satisfied then feel free to cease but give the CFL the same chance we gave Ron Paul 2008.

[Indy4Chng]

Will someone let me know if this the same type of piece of shit that maxed out was before I watch. It seems like the same type of people are behind it. Maxed out had one or two good points but those were completely offset by the propaganda garbage that the credit card companies are the root of all evil and we need more regulation of such and then there would be no problems. If that's what this movie is about I think I will pass.

[westmich4paul]

Will someone let me know if this the same type of piece of shit that maxed out was before I watch. It seems like the same type of people are behind it. Maxed out had one or two good points but those were completely offset by the propaganda garbage that the credit card companies are the root of all evil and we need more regulation of such and then there would be no problems. If that's what this movie is about I think I will pass.

If this movie has David Walker in it and he is saying the same things in this movie as he has in past youtube vids and such it is pretty close to being inline with our message.

[Indy4Chng]

fwiw.. CNN had an author on today at lunch (I'm not going to give his name or his book and lend him anything) talking about the financial crisis. He pinned it all on the limited federal regulations to control lending. He was going on about how we needed more regulations and more involvement by the Federal Reserve and that the "free market" didn't work out well and caused all of this mess.
- no mention that the Federal Reserve mucking with the dollar has caused any of this mess.
- no mention that the bailouts are going to postpone and worsen the inevitable crash
- no mention that spending by our Federal gubmint is totally out of control

They're pushing hard to brainwash the masses.. their solution is going to be bigger government, more control, and most likely a single currency shared with US-Mexico-Canada. The general public is going to bite this hook, line, and sinker if things continue the way they're going.

Not to mention we don't have anything close to a free market.. we have a free market about as much as GWB is a conservative.

[Malakai]

Walker had a hand in the making IIRC. He promotes and talks about the video in the youtube of the speech he gave to some local gov last week.