Go Green at the Rally!

[Charles Wilson]

Save a tree: Plant Hemp. http://www.mariakoropecky.com/mag0004.htm.

One answer to the environmental problems facing this country is so simple it is scary. We have all heard about the "carbon footprint": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint.

Cultivation of Hemp is not the complete answer to our environmental problems but it could certainly go a long way toward solving some of them.

The rally could be an excellent opportunity to promote hemp.

[ItsTime]

Would be good for the press if we did go green...

[muzzled dogg]

i'm sorry

what do you propose we do?

[tonesforjonesbones]

This trendy "green" thing is becoming annoying all ready...I see those signs everywhere. tones

[Leroy_Jenkems]

This trendy "green" thing is becoming annoying all ready...I see those signs everywhere. tones

+1. All these catch terms like "carbon footprint" are worn-out BS. A "carbon footprint" ain't sh*t compared to volcanic eruptions when we're discussing emissions of carbon monoxide, methane, nitric oxides, etc.

I call shenanigans.

[Joseph Hart]

So are you suggesting we plant seeds around the city? LOL

[RSLudlum]

the term "carbon footprint" = "boot stamping on a human face - forever"

[JeNNiF00F00]

Going green is just an excuse to spend more money.

[muzzled dogg]

are you proposing we bring weed?

[JeNNiF00F00]

So are you suggesting we plant seeds around the city? LOL

That would be pure genius.

[Joseph Hart]

That would be pure genius.

According to a known study, weed increases IQ.

[Charles Wilson]

Wow! Some of the responses I got are quite surprising. We the people are destroying the planet we live on and people just do not give a damn. We are crapping in our own living space and tolerating it. Did any of you read the links I posted? We have a major energy shortage; industrial hemp could be used to make biofuel among many other useful products. Ron Paul supports cultivating industrial hemp.

I suppose I should not be surprised that most Americans have a wrong-headed understanding about hemp. I wrote to the parasite my district elected to Congress and ask that she sponsor the bill by Ron Paul that removes hemp from the illegal substance list. Her response was predictable whereas she demonstrated total ignorance about hemp. She said that legalizing hemp would send the wrong signal to our children. What a dumb ass!

BTW: Hemp is not a drug.

[muzzled dogg]

so you literally want us to plant herb outside the rally?

[Charles Wilson]

so you literally want us to plant herb outside the rally?

No :). Shemdogg you are not listening!

I want to promote Ron Paul's bill to legalize hemp. Hemp is one product that should be cultivated for biofuel. As of today, our food supply (corn, etc.) is being used to make fuel -- food prices are going through the roof. Several States have approved the cultivation of hemp but they are under strict control by the Federal government.

I live in Florida and raise hay for a cash crop. My farm could be far more productive if I could raise hemp -- three crops per year. Hemp could be an ideal crop because there is very little waste. It will grow in most types of soil and is drought tolerant. The stuff is harmless.

[Ninja Homer]

Wow! Some of the responses I got are quite surprising. We the people are destroying the planet we live on and people just do not give a damn. We are crapping in our own living space and tolerating it. Did any of you read the links I posted? We have a major energy shortage; industrial hemp could be used to make biofuel among many other useful products. Ron Paul supports cultivating industrial hemp.

I suppose I should not be surprised that most Americans have a wrong-headed understanding about hemp. I wrote to the parasite my district elected to Congress and ask that she sponsor the bill by Ron Paul that removes hemp from the illegal substance list. Her response was predictable whereas she demonstrated total ignorance about hemp. She said that legalizing hemp would send the wrong signal to our children. What a dumb ass!

BTW: Hemp is not a drug.

I think we're all for legalizing hemp, just sick of the "go green" catchphrase. The catchphrase is used primarily (in politics anyway) to promote unconstitutional restrictions.

[Ninja Homer]

so you literally want us to plant herb outside the rally?

It'll never grow there. The Minnesota River and Mississippi River valleys are a much better place to toss seeds. :D

[Zolah]

Legalise hemp, but don't bullshit around with greenwashing the issue.

[Charles Wilson]

Legalise hemp, but don't bullshit around with greenwashing the issue.

Your point is understood and well taken. However if we have to use the vernacular of the elite money folks to make hemp legal then I say let's do it. The end result justifies the means -- legalize hemp.

[Charles Wilson]

Please read the comments on Daily Paul: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/56753

[Truth Warrior]

So, why not just come out and say, "Go Socialist at the Rally." ? :p :rolleyes:

[ItsTime]

So, why not just come out and say, "Go Socialist at the Rally." ? :p :rolleyes:

You have to be socialist to believe you can do things less harmful? And respect the property rights of the MN people?

[Truth Warrior]

You have to be socialist to believe you can do things less harmful? And respect the property rights of the MN people?
Nope, just to "Go Green".<IMHO> ;) http://www.gp.org/index.php

[Danke]

are you proposing we bring weed?


I'll bring Green Tea...

[Truth Warrior]

If you want hemp ( only for making rope and soil conservation, I'm sure ;) ):

How about, "Go NORML to the Rally"? ;)

[Charles Wilson]

If you want hemp ( only for making rope and soil conservation, I'm sure ;) ):

How about, "Go NORML to the Rally"? ;)

So what you are implying is hemp is really a drug? I wonder how many other misinformed folks in this country think hemp is a drug. :rolleyes:

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Save a tree: Plant Hemp. http://www.mariakoropecky.com/mag0004.htm.

One answer to the environmental problems facing this country is so simple it is scary. We have all heard about the "carbon footprint": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint.

Cultivation of Hemp is not the complete answer to our environmental problems but it could certainly go a long way toward solving some of them.

The rally could be an excellent opportunity to promote hemp.

I want to leave my carbon footprint *sprays hairspray out the window*

[Truth Warrior]

So what you are implying is hemp is really a drug? I wonder how many other misinformed folks in this country think hemp is a drug. :rolleyes: What are the physiological / pharmaceutical effects of THC? :rolleyes:

[Charles Wilson]

What are the physiological / pharmaceutical effects of THC? :rolleyes:

As for hemp, virtually zero. As Ron Paul said, to get any effect of THC from hemp you would have to smoke a joint the size of a telephone pole. If you got 'em, light 'em up :).

[Truth Warrior]

As for hemp, virtually zero. As Ron Paul said, to get any effect of THC from hemp you would have to smoke a joint the size of a telephone pole. If you got 'em, light 'em up :).

Ya got ya some bad "hemp" ;) there Dude. :)

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:D

[RickyJ]

As for hemp, virtually zero. As Ron Paul said, to get any effect of THC from hemp you would have to smoke a joint the size of a telephone pole. If you got 'em, light 'em up :).

Ron Paul would know this how? Are you implying he smokes hemp?

[Charles Wilson]

Ron Paul would know this how? Are you implying he smokes hemp?


No. Ron Paul made that statement on national television. I suspose he did his homework. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp.

Pay attention Truth Warrior :D: "Strains of Cannabis approved for industrial hemp production produce only minute amounts of this psychoactive drug, not enough for any physical or psychological effects. Typically, Hemp contains below 0.3% THC, while cannabis grown for marijuana can contain anywhere from 6 or 7 % to 20% or even more."

Hemp: Smoke 'em if you got 'em, they are harmless.

[Truth Warrior]

No. Ron Paul made that statement on national television. I suspose he did his homework. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp.

Pay attention Truth Warrior :D: "Strains of Cannabis approved for industrial hemp production produce only minute amounts of this psychoactive drug, not enough for any physical or psychological effects. Typically, Hemp contains below 0.3% THC, while cannabis grown for marijuana can contain anywhere from 6 or 7 % to 20% or even more."

Hemp: Smoke 'em if you got 'em, they are harmless.
Tell that to the Mexican hemp production industry. BTW, tell that to the DEA too, while you're at it. ;) :D They could use some laughs.

[Charles Wilson]

Tell that to the Mexican hemp production industry. BTW, tell that to the DEA too, while you're at it. ;) :D They could use some laughs.

How do you say hemp in Spanish? IMHO, I doubt if the DEA would know the difference between hemp -- or a real drug like marijuana -- and a cabbage plant. When was the last major drug bust by the DEA? The war on drugs is a bad joke. With tons and tons of consumerable illegal drugs being smuggled into this country every year you would think they could find some of them before they got into the hands of the users :rolleyes:

BTW: I have never smoked dope but I did smoke rabbit tobacco (can't remember the name of the plant) and grape vines when I was a kid. I would imagine the effect of smoking hemp would be comparable to that experience -- ugh.

F.Y.I: Once again, hemp is not a drug and/or marijuana.

[Truth Warrior]

Ya got ya some bad "hemp" ;) there Dude. :)

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:D bump for grins. ;)

[ThePieSwindler]

Nope, just to "Go Green".<IMHO> ;) http://www.gp.org/index.php

https://secure.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizations/Greens/shop/shop.jsp?storefront_KEY=4 (this is their store)

Union-made, sweatshop free :-p

[JosephTheLibertarian]

IMO, hemp's decline in the US starts with the abolition of slavery (domestic cheap labour) and the adaptation of steampower. By 1937 it was a relatively minor crop. The Tax Act certainly didn't help the situation

[JeNNiF00F00]

How do you say hemp in Spanish? IMHO, I doubt if the DEA would know the difference between hemp -- or a real drug like marijuana -- and a cabbage plant. When was the last major drug bust by the DEA? The war on drugs is a bad joke. With tons and tons of consumerable illegal drugs being smuggled into this country every year you would think they could find some of them before they got into the hands of the users :rolleyes:

BTW: I have never smoked dope but I did smoke rabbit tobacco (can't remember the name of the plant) and grape vines when I was a kid. I would imagine the effect of smoking hemp would be comparable to that experience -- ugh.

F.Y.I: Once again, hemp is not a drug and/or marijuana.

Please don't call it dope lol I HATE that term because it stigmatizes the plant, and usually peeps like cops and the older generation that grew up around reefer madness coins that term. Its cannabis, weed, trees, green, bud etc. :D When talking to others about this issue I always try to say Cannabis because that is the proper term and doesn't scare people into thinking you are talking about something negative and by doing so you are actually helping perpetuate the war on drugs.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Please don't call it dope lol I HATE that term because it stigmatizes the plant, and usually peeps like cops and the older generation that grew up around reefer madness coins that term. Its cannabis, weed, trees, green, bud etc. :D When talking to others about this issue I always try to say Cannabis because that is the proper term and doesn't scare people into thinking you are talking about something negative and by doing so you are actually helping perpetuate the war on drugs.

What can I call you, baby? :D is that sufficient? or do I have to be "proper"? :cool: can I call you waffles? LOL...yeah, that's lame. nevermind

[Charles Wilson]

Please don't call it dope lol I HATE that term because it stigmatizes the plant, and usually peeps like cops and the older generation that grew up around reefer madness coins that term. Its cannabis, weed, trees, green, bud etc. :D When talking to others about this issue I always try to say Cannabis because that is the proper term and doesn't scare people into thinking you are talking about something negative and by doing so you are actually helping perpetuate the war on drugs.

Okay :)

[Charles Wilson]

I found the following information on rabbit tobacco: http://hillcountryofmonroecountry.blogspot.com/2007/08/smoking-rabbit-tobacco-in-hill-country.html

[Leroy_Jenkems]

Your point is understood and well taken. However if we have to use the vernacular of the elite money folks to make hemp legal then I say let's do it. The end result justifies the means -- legalize hemp.

Except...you'll have to go through the argument just played out here with everyone unfamiliar with your "green" initiatives...so far, the elite money folks haven't printed any ads about going "green" with pictures of the hemp plant.

[JeNNiF00F00]

Okay :)

;)

[G-Wohl]

+1. All these catch terms like "carbon footprint" are worn-out BS. A "carbon footprint" ain't sh*t compared to volcanic eruptions when we're discussing emissions of carbon monoxide, methane, nitric oxides, etc.

I call shenanigans.

I'm not a fan of the "green" movement (well, the environmental one, at least :D), but at least get your facts straight. This volcanic eruptions argument is used all the time by southern Republicans, but damn is that statement a load of bull! The most pollutant of all volcanic eruptions ever recorded in modern history still don't amount to nearly the same output of the least pollutant of all the power plants in this country.

If you want to prove to people that environmental laws are unconstitutional, don't go throwing around inaccurate statements like that. It hurts the movement. Instead, cite how the government has not been good at regulating anything else, and then ask that "green" individual whether or not they want the same people who handled Hurricane Katrina and our tax system to handle the most important issue of all: the Earth.

[Truth Warrior]

I'm not a fan of the "green" movement (well, the environmental one, at least :D), but at least get your facts straight. This volcanic eruptions argument is used all the time by southern Republicans, but damn is that statement a load of bull! The most pollutant of all volcanic eruptions ever recorded in modern history still don't amount to nearly the same output of the least pollutant of all the power plants in this country.

If you want to prove to people that environmental laws are unconstitutional, don't go throwing around inaccurate statements like that. It hurts the movement. Instead, cite how the government has not been good at regulating anything else, and then ask that "green" individual whether or not they want the same people who handled Hurricane Katrina and our tax system to handle the most important issue of all: the Earth.

Why just limit yourself to "modern history"? :rolleyes: BTW, what IS the time span of "modern history" ( so called )?

:p

[Charles Wilson]

Except...you'll have to go through the argument just played out here with everyone unfamiliar with your "green" initiatives...so far, the elite money folks haven't printed any ads about going "green" with pictures of the hemp plant.

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step". Check out: http://www.thehia.org/.

I alerted these folks about the march on Washington awhile back and received a real nice thank you from them for the heads-up. I will send them another email alerting them of the upcoming Rally.

Email sent. Check out: http://www.votehemp.com/news/newsv3no11.html

[Leroy_Jenkems]

I'm not a fan of the "green" movement (well, the environmental one, at least :D), but at least get your facts straight. This volcanic eruptions argument is used all the time by southern Republicans, but damn is that statement a load of bull! The most pollutant of all volcanic eruptions ever recorded in modern history still don't amount to nearly the same output of the least pollutant of all the power plants in this country.

If you want to prove to people that environmental laws are unconstitutional, don't go throwing around inaccurate statements like that. It hurts the movement. Instead, cite how the government has not been good at regulating anything else, and then ask that "green" individual whether or not they want the same people who handled Hurricane Katrina and our tax system to handle the most important issue of all: the Earth.

From your reply, it seems you're on my "side of the aisle," but what does this stranger say around 3:12 of this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6KIusCBoU

Also, the following references discuss the contributions of volcanic emissions to climate change:
http://news.thomasnet.com/IMT/archives/2005/07/global_warming_1.html
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/climate_effects.html
http://volcanology.geol.ucsb.edu/gas.htm

Perhaps I was asinine to call out CO2 emissions of volcanoes as dwarfing those that are man-made, but sulfur dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, etc do plenty of damage.

[Truth Warrior]

Terrestrial Atmosphere
Surface pressure: 1014 mb
Surface density: 1.217 kg/m3
Scale height: 8.5 km
Total mass of atmosphere: 5.1 x 1018 kg
Total mass of hydrosphere: 1.4 x 1021 kg
Average temperature: 288 K (15 C)
Diurnal temperature range: 283 K to 293 K (10 to 20 C)
Wind speeds: 0 to 100 m/s
Mean molecular weight: 28.97 g/mole

Atmospheric composition (by volume, dry air):

Major : 78.084% Nitrogen (N2), 20.946% Oxygen (O2),

Minor (ppm): Argon (Ar) - 9340; Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 380 Neon (Ne) - 18.18; Helium (He) - 5.24; CH4 - 1.7 Krypton (Kr) - 1.14; Hydrogen (H2) - 0.55

Water is highly variable, typically makes up about 1% ( ~10,000 ppm )

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/earthfact.html