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Jeremy
07-29-2008, 09:25 PM
Looking back at his ideas... he's pretty much a socialist! I found myself sometimes saying "If I had to pick a dem, it would be him," but frankly I wouldn't do that...

Liberty Star
07-29-2008, 09:30 PM
Because he appears quite harmless lol

His exotic partner may be another story.

ChickenHawk
07-29-2008, 09:30 PM
I guess you just haven't asked me yet.

Austin
07-29-2008, 09:42 PM
I find most of his social policies appalling, but the fact that he at least stands up for civil liberties, which is something almost all others completely ignore, makes him more likeable than most of his.. kind.

LibertyCola
07-29-2008, 10:01 PM
I hope he contracts anal cancer.

Oyate
07-29-2008, 10:04 PM
His exotic partner may be another story.

Bingo. Because we all know deep down we'd blow even any imaginary chance we might have away. If we can't ever have a decent man for president, we might as well have a total hottie for first lady.

I mean, it's better than nothing.....

Indy Vidual
07-29-2008, 10:05 PM
He's got good standing with the ET's ;)

Chibioz
07-29-2008, 10:07 PM
I don't support his socialist policies but he at least has integrity. Members here have been plenty critical of him in the past.

tonyr1988
07-29-2008, 10:15 PM
I despise his policies, but he openly supports the same things that Obama/McCain/etc actually vote for.

I'd rather have someone tell me they want socialism, than someone who does it behind our backs.

Of course, I'd much rather have some that tells me they want free-market capitalism (and actually follows through!) than them, but integrity should mean something, even if it is secondary.

richardfortherepublic
07-29-2008, 10:21 PM
Dennis K is a true Liberal. Ron Paul is a true Conservative. They don't have agendas like many in the house of Reps., and at the end of the day, all they want is personal freedoms for the people of America.

That's why I admire Dennis, I don't agree with most of his ideals...But the man is a true statesmen and that's whats important to me.

SLSteven
07-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Dennis K is a true Liberal. Ron Paul is a true Conservative. They don't have agendas like many in the house of Reps., and at the end of the day, all they want is personal freedoms for the people of America.

That's why I admire Dennis, I don't agree with most of his ideals...But the man is a true statesmen and that's whats important to me.

Agreed! I like that he is courageous, true to his beliefs, and entertaining to watch. Unfortunately he is terribly socialist.

Alawn
07-29-2008, 10:48 PM
People are very critical of him. He is very socialist and very anti gun so on those issues he is horrible. On other issues he is very good. He is anti Federal Reserve, UN, NAFTA, NAU and pro civil liberties. Of the Democrats he is by far the best but that doesn't mean he is great. He is just the least bad of the socialists.

richardfortherepublic
07-29-2008, 10:55 PM
You know.. he met with the 9/11 workers, He tried his best to get Bush impeached, and he had good faith in the American people to not think of him as kooky when he admitting to seeing a UFO.

SouthGeorgia61
07-29-2008, 10:57 PM
Dennis K is a true Liberal. Ron Paul is a true Conservative. They don't have agendas like many in the house of Reps., and at the end of the day, all they want is personal freedoms for the people of America.

That's why I admire Dennis, I don't agree with most of his ideals...But the man is a true statesmen and that's whats important to me.

+ 1

I can't stand his pro gun control views, and his support of socialism is annoying, but if Kucinich were president he would be the 2nd best option to Ron imo. I'd rather have Kucinich as president than Barr, but alas Kucinich is out and so is Gravel so Barr is the next best option. Foreign policy and civil liberties are the two most important issues, and Kucinich gets an A+ in both categories. Look at Singapore, its very capitalist, but you can't even chew gum!

Liberty4Free
07-29-2008, 11:01 PM
I thought he was okay on civil liberties and had a sensible foreign policy. And he didn't seem to be beholden to corporations, bankers, lobbyist, etc. That's more than we can say for most congressmen. Am I mistaken?

fj45lvr
07-29-2008, 11:51 PM
If you are apart of the majority of rural americans that rely on natural resource industries Kuccinich personifies the "kiss of death" (like al gore)....these guys are totally and utterly out of touch with reality (and the press tries to say that Ron Paul is "wacky"!!)

Clinton was bad enough when he met on the west coast concerning logging on federal lands and suggested the IDIOCY of "importing pine logs from NZ" to keep the mills going (when we grow the best timber in the WORLD!!!!). The democratic party has NO CLUE when it comes to rural Americans and natural resource industries as they cater to the idiocy of GREEN hypocrites that consume and live in the modern world.

Paulitical Correctness
07-30-2008, 12:00 AM
His philosophies are questionable, but his morality seems to be pure. People like morality in politicians because it's so damn rare.

richardfortherepublic
07-30-2008, 12:43 AM
You know why I don't support Dennis is because America isn't a Democracy.... But like I said, he a true to his ideals and his intentions are for the better.

Guns, the issue of any legislation is unforgivable.

AJ Antimony
07-30-2008, 12:52 AM
Dennis K is a true Liberal. Ron Paul is a true Conservative. They don't have agendas like many in the house of Reps., and at the end of the day, all they want is personal freedoms for the people of America.

That's why I admire Dennis, I don't agree with most of his ideals...But the man is a true statesmen and that's whats important to me.

Exactly. The word you're looking for is honesty. Kucinich, like Paul, is an incredibly honest person who you can tell isn't bullshitting anyone. And because Kucinich is honest like Paul, he also is seen as a kook. Dude's got balls too.

Knightskye
07-30-2008, 12:57 AM
Because he isn't running for President?

Ninja Homer
07-30-2008, 01:27 AM
Kucinich is an old school Democrat in the same way that Ron Paul is an old school Republican. Most Republicans are now neo-conservative, and most Democrats are now neo-liberal, and they're pretty much the same damn thing.

Yeah, I think Kucinich is dead wrong on many issues, but at least I know where he sits. He speaks with the same kind of honesty that you hear when you listen to Ron Paul. He answers questions the way he sees it, without the pandering and avoiding and redirecting that you see in almost every other politician.

Flash
07-30-2008, 01:28 AM
Hes a democrat so he has democrat liberal views. You can't expect him to have ron paul views. Even though Kucinich supporters seem to think Ron Paul should have liberal views. lol

Shadow of a Doubt
07-30-2008, 03:58 AM
Dennis is honest, and that's what counts most in a person. So long as someone is honest and keeps searching, they'll eventually discover the correct political philosophy. I'm a former Democrat living in a heavily Democratic area, and I can say that many, maybe even a third of the Democrats I know are people that would otherwise be libertarians if not for the heavy public school indoctrination we all faced. They're just naive, like I was, and like Dennis is.

Right now the battle is between the honest men and the hypocrites, and we need all the honest men we can get. Once the hypocrites are defeated and there's a clean debate among the honest men, then what's right will quickly become clear, and the honest men of the left, being honest, will in time see the error of their ways and join our side.

zeke105
07-30-2008, 06:29 AM
Dennis has no hidden agenda. It seems that he truly believes that his socialist ideals are best for the American public. He has the same love for this country and its citizens that Dr. Paul has, but he just wants to "fix" the system with a liberal approach as opposed to Dr. Paul's conservative approach.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
07-30-2008, 07:01 AM
He's an honest socialist. The major problem between congress and I isn't that we have philosophical differences. It's that they're liars and thieves.

We can talk about governmental philosophy, but there's no point until people are done lying and stealing.

V-rod
07-30-2008, 09:09 AM
Edit: why bother

CUnknown
07-30-2008, 09:52 AM
He's an honest socialist. The major problem between congress and I isn't that we have philosophical differences. It's that they're liars and thieves.

We can talk about governmental philosophy, but there's no point until people are done lying and stealing.

QFT

There is no point in arguing until we have taken power back for the people.

Arklatex
07-30-2008, 10:05 AM
Because Dennis is probably the only other honest man in Washington.

I disagree with him from a philosophic standpoint, but I value him way above any other dem or any republican. I say kick everyone out of the house besides kucinich and paul, we'd get two great honest debates and i'm sure a solution from these two would knock the pants off anything the other 500+ could muster in a complete term. :D

RonPaulR3VOLUTION
07-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Being critical of Kucinich would lose more supporters (for Ron Paul) than would be gained.

"Dennis Kucinich asked about Ron Paul"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18

SWATH
07-30-2008, 11:43 AM
Kucinich totally sucks policy-wise, but he is honest. An honest man, once shown the error of his beliefs, will either cease to believe in errors or cease to be honest.

Barney
07-30-2008, 02:30 PM
We have people here singing praises and planning to vote for an ex-CIA drug Czar who backed the Iraq war and the Patriot Act, but apparently there isn't enough hate for a man who has consistently and genuinely aligned with Dr Paul on civil liberties and foreign policy but misguided on domestic entitlements?!

At least we all know where Kucinich stands. Barr was for just about everything he's now against to paint himself a libertarian. It's a good thing for the LP that Cheney wasn't interested in the ticket.

As far as proportional hate goes, I'd say it is Barr who's being shortchanged.

Barney
07-30-2008, 02:32 PM
Dennis is honest, and that's what counts most in a person. So long as someone is honest and keeps searching, they'll eventually discover the correct political philosophy. I'm a former Democrat living in a heavily Democratic area, and I can say that many, maybe even a third of the Democrats I know are people that would otherwise be libertarians if not for the heavy public school indoctrination we all faced. They're just naive, like I was, and like Dennis is.

Right now the battle is between the honest men and the hypocrites, and we need all the honest men we can get. Once the hypocrites are defeated and there's a clean debate among the honest men, then what's right will quickly become clear, and the honest men of the left, being honest, will in time see the error of their ways and join our side.

Very well said!

nobody's_hero
07-30-2008, 03:36 PM
Dennis is consistent.

I can argue with someone that is consistent, and even go so far as to respect them. I can't argue with someone who keeps flipping sides every five minutes. That's just . . . annoying.

I don't like Kucinich's stance on gun control. There. My criticism.

LibertyCola
07-30-2008, 04:00 PM
He uses the constitution to impeach Bush and in the next sentence talks about gun control. What dishonest idiot scum.

ChickenHawk
07-30-2008, 05:55 PM
He uses the constitution to impeach Bush and in the next sentence talks about gun control. What dishonest idiot scum.

Couldn't have said it better myself! That sums up why I think he is one of the worst types of politicians. He smugly proclaims to be a Constitutionalists but ignores it when it doesn't fit his political agenda.