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Starks
08-29-2007, 08:16 PM
1. Bash Romney because he is Mormon
2. Make fun of Fred because has/had cancer
3. Point and laugh at Hillary because she has a vagina

Let's come up with more things that RP fans shouldn't do...

Alabama Supporter
08-29-2007, 08:22 PM
Ride in a car with these 2 bumper stickers at the same time:

1. 9/11 was an inside job
2. Ron Paul 2008

dircha
08-29-2007, 08:23 PM
Use graffiti to campaign

SeanEdwards
08-29-2007, 08:24 PM
Ride in a car with these 2 bumper stickers at the same time:

1. 9/11 was an inside job
2. Ron Paul 2008

Careful, you're asking for trouble from the meathook gang.

fletcher
08-29-2007, 08:25 PM
Ride in a car with these 2 bumper stickers at the same time:

1. 9/11 was an inside job
2. Ron Paul 2008

Seconded.

Revolution9
08-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Seconded.

ElectricChurch.. Get yer meathooks out.. We have people with control freak issues here.

What not to do. Don't fuck with RP supporters. You do not hold a monopoly on truth and you sure as hell have no right to stop people seeking it or living their life as they see fit. What if you were told not to bring up the FedRes stuff because in a two line explanation the message is totally lost on those without the data to understand the true nature of that situation. This would then turn them off and see you as a fringe nutjob.. get the drift??

Randy
-911 was a trojan horse inside the system
-Ron Paul 2008!

bcmiller
08-29-2007, 08:38 PM
I think this thread was meant as a half a joke but I think it is a good idea since the point of us spreading the word is to gain supporters.

I would say these are some things that should be avoided.

Useless rhetoric

Calling candidates by insulting nicknames
Attacking candidates because of a perceived group they are in instead of a failed policy they support
Calling other supporters by insulting nicknames (we want them to be RP supporters some day, they won't join if they feel it means they lost).


False Statements

Back up assertions with sources and facts
Make sure you do not misrepresent Ron Paul (If it's your opinion and not Ron Paul's say where you differ from Ron Paul's official position)


I am sure I could think of dozens but the theme is simple. The contact you have with other candidate's supporters or undecided folks will either give them a first impression of Dr. Paul or re enforce or contradict opinions they hold about Dr. Paul. We have seen how important the grass roots effort is and how valuable just 1 motivated supporter can be. We need more and we need to make sure our passion doesn't alienate, but invites.

Cowlesy
08-29-2007, 08:40 PM
I think the truthers know that they will have a much better chance to push their agenda if they help getting Ron Paul elected, and that to get him elected means not hitching their truth-wagon to him until after he's in the White House.

The truthers want him elected too, and they're smart folks..they know they won't win over majorities of people by trying to convince regular folks it was an inside job---you'll get a few, but not enough to take RP out of the 3% into the 53% bucket.

max
08-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Point out that Hilary is a lesbian

mdh
08-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Ron Paul supporters should never forget to properly extinguish campfires. Only Ron Paul supporters can prevent forest fires.

Oddball
08-29-2007, 08:43 PM
1. Bash Romney because he is Mormon

I bash Romney because he looks like Al Bundy and talks like Bubba Clinton.


2. Make fun of Fred because has/had cancer

It's much easier and more fun to mock him as the candidate who isn't even running.


3. Point and laugh at Hillary because she has a vagina

If you're gonna point an laugh at Broom Hillary, it should be for those pants suits she wears that would be felonious in Italy.

Starks
08-29-2007, 09:14 PM
Point out that Hilary is a lesbian

*insert joke about New Orleans needing a huge dyke*

LibertyEagle
08-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Point out that Hilary is a lesbian

:D

quickmike
08-29-2007, 09:28 PM
Things RP fans shouldn't do..

Forget to wipe your ass.


Nobody likes a stinky ass.

Oddball
08-29-2007, 09:34 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5373/towelieyj3.jpg
Don't forget to bring a towel!!!

ecliptic
08-29-2007, 09:34 PM
Randy
-911 was a trojan horse inside the system
-Ron Paul 2008!

seconded

This non-issue always comes back, but it's never the honest truth seeking patriots who bring it up, only shills and antagonists. Knock it off.

fletcher
08-29-2007, 09:39 PM
ElectricChurch.. Get yer meathooks out.. We have people with control freak issues here.

What not to do. Don't fuck with RP supporters. You do not hold a monopoly on truth and you sure as hell have no right to stop people seeking it or living their life as they see fit. What if you were told not to bring up the FedRes stuff because in a two line explanation the message is totally lost on those without the data to understand the true nature of that situation. This would then turn them off and see you as a fringe nutjob.. get the drift??

Randy
-911 was a trojan horse inside the system
-Ron Paul 2008!

Sorry if that offends you. I'm not a control freak. No one is saying they can't do it, we are saying you shouldn't. I just want Ron to win. And this will not help Ron win; it will only hurt. Equating Ron Paul with stupid people is bad.

quickmike
08-29-2007, 09:41 PM
Sorry if that offends you. I'm not a control freak. No one is saying they can't do it, we are saying you shouldn't. I just want Ron to win. And this will not help Ron win; it will only hurt. Equating Ron Paul with stupid people is bad.


Um......... stupid people are bad Mmmkaaaay?

LibertyEagle
08-29-2007, 09:42 PM
Fletcher,

Rev is just fine. He uses what works with the people he hangs with. It used to bother me too, but I was wrong. No, it wouldn't probably be the best approach with the Republicans I know, but that is not who he is approaching.

Omnis
08-29-2007, 09:44 PM
"Things RP fans shouldn't do..."

Give up.

Revolution9
08-29-2007, 09:46 PM
I think this thread was meant as a half a joke but I think it is a good idea since the point of us spreading the word is to gain supporters.

I would say these are some things that should be avoided.

Useless rhetoric
[LIST]
Calling candidates by insulting nicknames

But the locals thrive on useless rhetoric around here..So I use it for engagement and then sneak truths in for bogglement and fun.. I call all the other candidates drooldonkeys, wannabe tinhorn dictators, parasitic golems, abderitic simpletons, crooks and liars, vinyl haired, game show teeth baring, hogwash spewing, carpet diving, psuedohonchoid fakes who wanna start thermonuclear war and take our goddamned guns... Then when I got their attention fully:D I go "Now..there is ONE fellow..probably the ONLY honest politician in western swivelisation...." <insert Ron Paul enthusiasm here>...."so..if you wanna restore The Constitution and tell these honcho clowns to take a hike, put the lobbyists to the curb and fire up that hooter, get the IRS out of yer pocket...etc. etc.."

I never fail...

Randy

Oddball
08-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Um......... stupid people are bad Mmmkaaaay?

This thread could degenerate really quick....mike....M'kay?? :D

quickmike
08-29-2007, 09:47 PM
"Things RP fans shouldn't do..."

Give up.

Youre right!!!! I was in the process of quitting smoking and went 3 days without a cigarette, but after seeing this post I decided not to quit. Ill never give up again, and im not a quitter.

ecliptic
08-29-2007, 09:54 PM
I think the truthers know that they will have a much better chance to push their agenda if they help getting Ron Paul elected, and that to get him elected means not hitching their truth-wagon to him until after he's in the White House.

The truthers want him elected too, and they're smart folks..they know they won't win over majorities of people by trying to convince regular folks it was an inside job---you'll get a few, but not enough to take RP out of the 3% into the 53% bucket.

I think the stereotypers know that by grouping the people together and attaching a label to them it's easier to then over-simplify "their" position. Since the stereotypers haven't honestly looked into "the truth" it's easier to attempt to dismiss "truthers" as somehow inferior and not-to-be-believed. Just get over this old old non-issue already and move on. SLEEP OBEY CONSUME

Loose Change final cut trailer (http://www.loosechange911.com/)

The "stereotypers" are not helping Ron Paul get elected.

DjLoTi
08-29-2007, 09:58 PM
Starks, why u gotta be such a h8r all the time???

quickmike
08-29-2007, 10:00 PM
I think the stereotypers know that by grouping the people together and attaching a label to them it's easier to then over-simplify "their" position. Since the stereotypers haven't honestly looked into "the truth" it's easier to attempt to dismiss "truthers" as somehow inferior and not-to-be-believed. Just get over this old old non-issue already and move on. SLEEP OBEY CONSUME

Loose Change final cut trailer (http://www.loosechange911.com/)

The "stereotypers" are not helping Ron Paul get elected.

Ok, heres the problem with the whole 911 truth thing. Ok so its true 100 percent................... now what? What are you going to do about it? Ask the government to do something about it? LOL............... what a waste of energy.

quickmike
08-29-2007, 10:01 PM
This thread could degenerate really quick....mike....M'kay?? :D

You think? I think its too late :D

Revolution9
08-29-2007, 10:05 PM
Sorry if that offends you. I'm not a control freak. No one is saying they can't do it, we are saying you shouldn't. I just want Ron to win. And this will not help Ron win; it will only hurt. Equating Ron Paul with stupid people is bad.

Boy..yer way up there on the charts.. I can't even smack you around without feeling like an intellectual bully.


One Of The "Stupid People"
Randy

ecliptic
08-29-2007, 10:07 PM
...what a waste of energy.


Things RP fans shouldn't do..

Forget to wipe your ass.

Nobody likes a stinky ass.

no this is a waste of energy, no wait my reply to this is a real waste of energy

Revolution9
08-29-2007, 10:08 PM
Ok, heres the problem with the whole 911 truth thing. Ok so its true 100 percent................... now what? What are you going to do about it? Ask the government to do something about it? LOL............... what a waste of energy.

There are Gold Badges who take their jobs and oaths seriously. When rolling up the carpet on a criminal enterprise as huge as this one has gotten it has to be rolled up from the edges.. The ones that roll over and give evidence are left to "retire and be with their families". You think Bush got the ranch in another country just to vacation? I heard they were friendly to Nazi's.

Best
Randy

quickmike
08-29-2007, 10:13 PM
no this is a waste of energy, no wait my reply to this is a real waste of energy

That took about 6 seconds to post. Probably wont let it consume me though.

I have friends that are truthers, and though I agree with them on alot of the evidence to support what they say, its not the point. When I ask them what theyre gonna do about it, they always say "well, theres really nothing you CAN do about it I guess"

Thats all im saying. If youre not gonna personally go to washington and kill those responsible yourself, whats the point?

I just look for answers to this question, thats all.

mdh
08-29-2007, 10:17 PM
Fletcher,

Rev is just fine. He uses what works with the people he hangs with. It used to bother me too, but I was wrong. No, it wouldn't probably be the best approach with the Republicans I know, but that is not who he is approaching.

This has been my message all along. I try to reach out to as diverse groups as possible, but I'm able to dress the part, get into the right headspace, use the right words at the right times, etc. I make it a point to know the demographics I'm working with.

That's why it annoys me when people make blanket statements, like "don't use AFTF to promote Ron Paul" - AFTF works really well on some folks. :p

quickmike
08-29-2007, 10:17 PM
There are Gold Badges who take their jobs and oaths seriously. When rolling up the carpet on a criminal enterprise as huge as this one has gotten it has to be rolled up from the edges.. The ones that roll over and give evidence are left to "retire and be with their families". You think Bush got the ranch in another country just to vacation? I heard they were friendly to Nazi's.

Best
Randy

True, Bushs grandfather worked for the company that sold copper, steel, gunpowder, etc to Adolf Hitlers empire at the time we were at war with them. Sleazy bunch they are.

Arkris
08-29-2007, 10:24 PM
A lot of Conservative people, the kind that currently or once supported W. Bush, probably aren't going to concede that they, at any time, supported a person or government that murdered it's own people in 9/11. You could be completely correct, you could have all of the evidence, and you could work out all of the exact details of the event, but the fact is that most patriotic Americans who once supported the president are going to be alienated. If you say that 9/11 was an inside job, then they might think that you're somehow accusing them of being responsible for what happened, so they don't even want to hear it.

We're trying to get the support of the Republican Party, so we're going to have to appeal to a lot of the same people who, at one point, were behind G.W. Bush. Alienating these people is something we don't want to do. It might be good to bring up the 9/11 truth arguements when talking to more liberal individuals who you know have always hated the Bush administration, but when talking to the general public, I don't think we should bring up the matter.

fj45lvr
08-29-2007, 10:42 PM
I don't think it is a bad thing to point out that the potential future President believes that the "creator" was just a man like you and me from the Planet Kolob before he became the "GOD" of earth.....I wonder what Planet ROMNEY is hoping to become God of??? That would be a decent question for the press instead of asking Paul for the 100th time if he believes 911 was an inside job.

john_anderson_ii
08-30-2007, 12:53 AM
We're trying to get the support of the Republican Party, so we're going to have to appeal to a lot of the same people who, at one point, were behind G.W. Bush. Alienating these people is something we don't want to do. It might be good to bring up the 9/11 truth arguements when talking to more liberal individuals who you know have always hated the Bush administration, but when talking to the general public, I don't think we should bring up the matter.

Solution: 9/11 Truthers, keep on truthing, just not at GOP functions.

However, by all means keep doing what you are doing because we need numbers and those numbers have to come from all walks of life.

american.swan
08-30-2007, 03:50 AM
What RP fans shouldn't do....

Use ALOT, 'cause ALOT ain't a word.

McDermit
08-30-2007, 04:16 AM
You should never kick puppies in public while wearing ron Paul tshirts... Wear a Romney shirt during any such activities!

nexalacer
08-30-2007, 05:03 AM
Alienating Democrats because they want to use socialist policies as a means to the ends of solving the problems of this country is something Ron Paul supporters should not do. Socialism is very bad, but most Americans have been taught that it's acceptable with "good intentions" or something like that, so they see it as the lesser of two evils when we're faced with problems like corporate takeover of our lives and our officials pissing on the Constitution.

As supporters of Ron Paul, we should see that we all, regardless of what party label you hold, want the same thing in America: more freedom and prosperity. The Democrats can be one of our best allies because they are usually supporters of freedom. We just have to teach them, politely, that socialism is not a good means to the ends of freedom, because more government ALWAYS means less freedom!

jon_perez
08-30-2007, 05:07 AM
RP Fans shouldn't...


Ride in a car with these 2 bumper stickers at the same time:

1. 9/11 was an inside job
2. Ron Paul 2008

because Ron Paul has categorically said he did not believe in #1 and to make people think otherwise is to misrepresent RP.

happyphilter
08-30-2007, 05:13 AM
RP Fans shouldn't...



because Ron Paul has categorically said he did not believe in #1 and to make people think otherwise is to misrepresent RP.

Agreed. I think a lot of people confuse is "blowback" message with it being an inside job. If you want to believe it was an inside job, go ahead and believe it, but do not associate the message with Eon Paul or the GOP, because its not what he believes.
He believes that Americas policy overseas could explain why it happened.

the truthers message will hurt ron paul more then it will help. Im already getting frustrated with it...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
As a Mechanical engineer and also having a degree in construction management I can tell you this is the REAL truth.

Ozwest
08-30-2007, 05:57 AM
happyphilter, I agree that 911 Truthers should bite their lip and the Ron Paul campaign should remain a seperate issue. But, don't forget that a HUGE percentage of Paul's supporters are Truthers as Ron Paul understands. His many appearances on the Alex Jones rodio show illustrate this. Don't believe everything you read in a Hearst publication. PEACE.

happyphilter
08-30-2007, 06:04 AM
I'm not believing everything I read. I'm just believing fact. After spending 8 years in the engineering/technology field I would think I'd know what I'm talking about. The Pop Mechanics article is very well written and based on fact and science. I just get pissed when a bunch of people go on about what REALLY happened with no real knowledge or evidence on the subject matter. I didn't go through all that school so that someone that doesn't even have a GED could say "Nuh uh you're wrong, It was defiantly an inside job"

Not everything is a conspiracy, theres science and fact that cannot be disproven or lied about.

As I said before, continue believing whatever you want, just don't associate it with Ron Paul.

Ozwest
08-30-2007, 06:14 AM
happyphilter, Try reading a book written by Dr. David Ray Griffin entitled "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" or Google him to hear opposing views regarding the Popular Mechanics articles. Perhaps when Ron Paul gets elected America can have a truly Independent investigation into what really transpired. Then everyone can put this behind them and restore the Republic.

happyphilter
08-30-2007, 06:18 AM
Orrrrr I could use my college education to think for myself rather then reading peoples books/articles that only fulfill their own personal agendas.
This isn't a matter of who or what I believe, its what I know. If I had the time I could actually write you mathematical equations showing how everything "transpired" Its my damn job to do this stuff!
I should just write my own book.

lucius
08-30-2007, 06:29 AM
...theres science and fact that cannot be disproven or lied about...

"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. "

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career. Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University. Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System. Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Here is Dr. Kwiatkowski, a 'Truther', supporting Dr. Paul (her quote is the first on the vid):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7gaOsNyac

Her other quote is from here:

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

I have a mechanical engineering degree as well; I do not agree with your assessment of that tragic day.

Popular Mechanics is Hearst Publications; search how the term ‘yellow journalism’ was coined.

Ozwest
08-30-2007, 06:32 AM
happyphilter, Somehow, reading between the lines, you are forming a biased position not based on true research but rather all knowing omnipitence. I only suggested readings that may broaden your knowledge. But seeming you know it all...

quickmike
08-30-2007, 06:46 AM
"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. "

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career. Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University. Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System. Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Here is Dr. Kwiatkowski, a 'Truther', supporting Dr. Paul (her quote is the first on the vid):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7gaOsNyac

Her other quote is from here:

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

I have a mechanical engineering degree as well; I do not agree with your assessment of that tragic day.

Popular Mechanics is Hearst Publications; search how the term ‘yellow journalism’ was coined.

I still dont see, after all these posts how believing or not believing in 911 truth is going to do anything to change anything as far as what happened. If its true, so what? Are you gonna do anything about it? No.

If its not true and it was really "Islamo Facists" that carried it out, are you going to do anything about that? No. So why do we do this?

Millions of people believe that JFK was killed by more than one person being involved, a guy openly confessed it on his deathbed. .................. still, nothing has happened. Just boggles the mind that people worry so much about what happened in the past and worry so little about whats ahead.

If youre trying to spread the word because you want the GOVERNMENT to have a full investigatioin on something you think THEY were involved in, youre gonna be waiting for a very long time.

Our economy finally tanking from bailout of other countries holdings of our debt and fiat currency is much more of a danger than anything else. Its inevitable, and yet we sit here talking about something that happened almost 8 years ago that nobody is going to do anything about? I dont understand.

Am I alone here?

ZandarKoad
08-30-2007, 06:52 AM
Ride in a car with these 2 bumper stickers at the same time:

1. 9/11 was an inside job
2. Ron Paul 2008

He's right. It wasn't an inside job. It was an OUTSIDE JOB. The Corporation United States is a foreign owned/operated corporation. Technically, it's not our government anymore. It hasn't been since 1944. Therefore, the attack was in fact an OUTSIDE job.

:D

Edit: But it's easy to blind people with the bright light of the truth. It's best to ease them into it...

Ozwest
08-30-2007, 06:58 AM
Just forget about the murder of innocents and the predication to the invasion of Afganastahn and Iraq???

Rivington Essex
08-30-2007, 09:15 AM
We should always wear sunscreen.

constituent
08-30-2007, 09:18 AM
What Ron Paul Supporters Shouldn't do

1)tell other ron paul supporters
what they SHOULD and
SHOULD NOT do


what they should do

1) mind your own goddamn business

Nefertiti
08-30-2007, 10:04 AM
use the word "fuck" when discussing Ron Paul.

lucius
08-30-2007, 10:07 AM
I still dont see, after all these posts how believing or not believing in 911 truth is going to do anything to change anything as far as what happened. If its true, so what? Are you gonna do anything about it? No.

If its not true and it was really "Islamo Facists" that carried it out, are you going to do anything about that? No. So why do we do this?

Millions of people believe that JFK was killed by more than one person being involved, a guy openly confessed it on his deathbed. .................. still, nothing has happened. Just boggles the mind that people worry so much about what happened in the past and worry so little about whats ahead.

If youre trying to spread the word because you want the GOVERNMENT to have a full investigatioin on something you think THEY were involved in, youre gonna be waiting for a very long time.

Our economy finally tanking from bailout of other countries holdings of our debt and fiat currency is much more of a danger than anything else. Its inevitable, and yet we sit here talking about something that happened almost 8 years ago that nobody is going to do anything about? I dont understand.

Am I alone here?

It is very interesting; I had a similar argument with my communist wife this morning concerning my ‘obsession’ with Dr. Paul and his campaign for president. She followed me home from one of my extended PROC visits.

A little background, at that time, I held a NSA clearance and as I was ‘discussing’ my new bride with the Facility Security Officer (FSO) and told him about an amusing antecedent about when my wife was overseeing a labor dispute and the army mowed 200 people down with machine guns and how I had brought her back to live among the ‘free-and-the…’ As serious as a heart attack, he told me that she probably gave the order to open-fire. And to all the people who retort in ignorance. “It too big of a secret to keep”, it is obvious you have never been under federal nondisclosure where one memo can put ice in you veins and stitches in your mouth.

So here is how the wife started out her argument this morning, she’s good at it: notice the strings of yes’s.

“So you are reengaging in a well broken corrupt political process? I reply, “Yes dear.”, because her bitching-rant is in-the-groove now. (See my signature, Edward Mandell House wrote that, ‘Comrade CJ’ can tell you how House help picked the original board of the Federal Reserve)

“Do you suppose that there exist instruments similar to WW2 Germany RED/BLUE lists for continuity of government?” Once again, I reply, “Yes dear.”

“What political persuasion would you put on that list? Know nothing Democrats and Republicans or aware, intelligent, active, involved individuals who revel in archaic counter-policy-agenda mindsets, who would you surgically remove from the body-politic? Go talk to your police friends some more.” [Insert answer here]

“Why do you endanger yourself and your family with your foolish bullshit politics?” [Insert answer here]

I answered her as I will answer you—Due Diligence. This is why I am reengaging in a well broken political process so when my children look me in the face and say, “Why didn’t you do anything?” I have a straight answer.

Furthermore, I don’t even speak about 911 in public unless I am asked first. There is too much other well documented conspiracy FACTS to lead with.

Orwell was a MI6 agent, and like many great works, IMO, he partially pleasurized content:

“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”

“Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

I wouldn’t have responded to this post, but the wife was bitching, baby crying, and I wanted a Camel short with my coffee, but live in quiet desperation.

PS: I love Bill Hick’s work, “You smoke two packs a day? You little pu**, I go through two lighters a day!” RIP

I will miss DarrenMcFillintheBlank?, I think he just snapped, I hope he comes back rested.

micahnelson
08-30-2007, 10:19 AM
Swim without waiting a half hour after eating.

Ozwest
08-30-2007, 10:50 AM
Ron Paul fans should never report for mandatoty interrogation and cataloguing by the Department of Homeland Security.

Brasil Branco
08-30-2007, 12:04 PM
Guys, in all seriousness- this is some constructive criticsm which I hope some of you will take to heart:

1) Do not resort to insulting Democrats. Many Democrats are supporting Ron Paul and in the end, you will need the Democratic vote to be able to win if Ron Paul runs as a Republican candidate, or even a third party one. On that note, be easy on some hot topics such as the 2nd amendment, and health care- as these are issues in which there is a great divide. Realise that these are secondary issues- the first one being to put a competent man as the president.

2) Do not post things like "Ron Paul is the only one not in the CFR". When I first saw things like that- I was a little bit shocked, it's a bit much for your average voter. Ron Paul's stances speak for themselves- I don't think things like that are helping to gather the average vote. I understand some individual's passion on this subject, but you need to think pragmatically- what message will get the greatest number of votes?

Ron Paul does this, compare his speech in Ames to his other ones. You analyse the audience, and create the best image for them. Kind of like having different slim jims for different types of people (concerts, students, etc.)

That's all the criticsm I have- hope no one gets angry :(

dude58677
08-30-2007, 12:11 PM
Thing RP fans shouldn't do?

Say he can't win.