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GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 04:48 PM
#10
Petrol cost $6/gallon when it cost $1 in the US, roughly $9 now.

#9
A children's books writer named Astrid Lindgren had to pay 102% taxes back in 1976 due to a badly designed system.

#8
The state has been keeping extensive political files on a large chunk of the population ever since WW2. The ruling socialdemocratic party had over 100'000 of its communist brethren in these files during the 1960's when just over 200'000 people voted for the communist party, information gathered by trade union informants listening in on political conversations at workplaces. The social democrats and the communists in this country were almost identical as far as policies go, but they were different entities competing for the same power. After 1980, mainly opponents of immigration went into these files.

#7
People in these files had problems getting employed since trade union representatives are present at nearly all job interviews.

#6
During the middle of WW2, the state handed over a man named Knut Haijby, who claimed to have had a homosexual relationship with the king, to Germany, describing him as mentally ill in the hopes that the Germans would kill him under the Aktion T4 program. This to put an end to the embarassment it was for the king having this man tell his story.

#5
Thousands of people diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome by uneducated social workers, being expected to belong in nursing homes since the social workers had learned in their training that this syndrome equated mental retardation, me personally being one of the victims.

#4
The prime minister uttering this threat as part of a speech when addressing the parliament in 1995: "I will, along with the administration I belong to, in all situations with force brand the ones speaking ill of the country abroad."

#3
You can be sentenced to up to four years in prison for "hate speech", with saying homosexuality is wrong being one of the most common offenses.

#2
The state introducing roughly a million asylum seekers to the country between 1970 and 1995 without a single new job in the private sector, creating huge problems, and labelling anyone having a problem with this immigration as a "racist".

#1
When Fidel Castro looked like he was retiring in 2006, the state TV took the opportunity to show roughly five hours worth of Cuba-friendly programming on primetime TV, describing what gains the country had made and what a good example it was.

See if you can guess what country this is without the help of a search engine.

Danke
07-24-2008, 04:52 PM
Canada?

Acala
07-24-2008, 04:56 PM
The UK?

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:02 PM
None of the two above.

bucfish
07-24-2008, 05:02 PM
Lindgren, Haijby? Hmmm. sounds Norwegian maybe you live in Norway???

bucfish
07-24-2008, 05:03 PM
Ughh I will not spoil it but that was the other one I was thinking between.

nate895
07-24-2008, 05:04 PM
Germany is the only one with a social democrat party with much power, so I'm going with them.

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:06 PM
Germany is the only one with a social democrat party with much power, so I'm going with them.

Hey, one of the points was a man was handed over to Germany, hence can't be that country. :-P None correct so far.

nunaem
07-24-2008, 05:09 PM
I say Denmark, they are pretty messed up over there.

bucfish
07-24-2008, 05:09 PM
Close you are, but not it!

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:10 PM
I say Denmark, they are pretty messed up over there.

Denmark has quite liberal(in the European meaning of the word) freedom of speech, no four years imprisonment for "hate speech" there.

Fox McCloud
07-24-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm going to guess Sweden, as it's the #1 Socialist country in the world.

Golding
07-24-2008, 05:13 PM
Sweden.

Monolithic
07-24-2008, 05:14 PM
The state introducing roughly a million asylum seekers to the country between 1970 and 1995 without a single new job in the private sector, creating huge problems, and labelling anyone having a problem with this immigration as a "racist".

sweden?

IPSecure
07-24-2008, 05:14 PM
Pomperipossa in Monismania

Thanks!

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm going to guess Sweden, as it's the #1 Socialist country in the world.

Correct! :-) Really stinks to live here. This country is a reformed monarchy that the socialdemocrats have added trade union rights and such to along with a welfare state, but not really anything in the way of protection for the citizens from the state. It is virtually impossible to sue the state for any harm it does against you, there are so many things missing in this political system that should be required for it to call itself a democracy.

Monolithic
07-24-2008, 05:17 PM
well the SDP is good for opposing the recently passed surveilance bill though, right?

Fox McCloud
07-24-2008, 05:17 PM
Correct! :-) Really stinks to live here. This country is a reformed monarchy that the socialdemocrats have added trade union rights and such to along with a welfare state, but not really anything in the way of protection for the citizens from the state. It is virtually impossible to sue the state for any harm it does against you, there are so many things missing in this political system that should be required for it to call itself a democracy.

Yay, I was right :)

Either way, you live in Sweden--are you Swedish yourself, and how long have you lived there? I've always wanted to speak with a Swedish individual on what life is like there, what the general perception of the ultimate welfare state is, what inflation is like, taxes, etc.

Either way, sounds like an absolute nightmare to live there, especially if you're for the free market.

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:22 PM
well the SDP is good for opposing the recently passed surveilance bill though, right?

Ah, you've read about that? Well, this matter is presented in a quite distorted way by the Swedish mass media since it's controlled by the socialdemocrats. For the whole postwar period, the state has monitored dissidents with the tools available. The country has been in the hands of the socialdemocratic party for most of the 20th century, it's basically been a one party state. Some time during the mid 90's, the agency FRA started listening in on all Internet traffic without any regulation of how it could be used, and that enabled them to monitor organizations they didn't like much more effectively than ever before. Recently, the centrist government that's now in power for once introduced a bill that would regulate this surveillance and aim it at "terrorists" instead, and the socialist mass media then presented it as the centrist government trying to start monitoring dissidents, when the social democrats have been doing it for the whole postwar period.

GreenCardSeeker
07-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Yay, I was right :)

Either way, you live in Sweden--are you Swedish yourself, and how long have you lived there? I've always wanted to speak with a Swedish individual on what life is like there, what the general perception of the ultimate welfare state is, what inflation is like, taxes, etc.

Either way, sounds like an absolute nightmare to live there, especially if you're for the free market.

Yep, I'm a Swede born here, having lived here for 31 years. While growing up, I bought all the indoctrination the state fed me about how this country was the best in the world thanks to socialism, how backwards everyone else was and especially what a menace the USA was to the world. As I've grown older, it's dawned on me that this picture isn't true at all, Sweden is missing so much that the USA has, the propaganda you're fed here is fabricated information, something this state has become so good at. They produce reports on everything to make their policies to appear good, but when it's critically reviewed, it really doesn't hold up. Surprisingly, this distorted picture seems to sell internationally too, many people mistakenly think the Swedish model is a great success when it's really a horrible failure - behind the numbers and everything they present, you get a completely different picture if you talk to the people here that are supposed to lead such wonderful lives according to these numbers.

I'm happy to talk about life here, in fact I do feel like venting a bit. Over here if you talk bad about the system, it won't be long before some social democrat appears and chastises you for being an enemy of the state. This bullying attitude by the socialists makes criticism hard, can be nice to have people to talk to that realizes how things really are.

bucfish
07-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Yep, I'm a Swede born here, having lived here for 31 years. While growing up, I bought all the indoctrination the state fed me about how this country was the best in the world thanks to socialism, how backwards everyone else was and especially what a menace the USA was to the world. As I've grown older, it's dawned on me that this picture isn't true at all, Sweden is missing so much that the USA has, the propaganda you're fed here is fabricated information, something this state has become so good at. They produce reports on everything to make their policies to appear good, but when it's critically reviewed, it really doesn't hold up. Surprisingly, this distorted picture seems to sell internationally too, many people mistakenly think the Swedish model is a great success when it's really a horrible failure - behind the numbers and everything they present, you get a completely different picture if you talk to the people here that are supposed to lead such wonderful lives according to these numbers.

I'm happy to talk about life here, in fact I do feel like venting a bit. Over here if you talk bad about the system, it won't be long before some social democrat appears and chastises you for being an enemy of the state. This bullying attitude by the socialists makes criticism hard, can be nice to have people to talk to that realizes how things really are.


The distortation comes here in the USA as well. We have a distorted media as well. They love government. I think they are in bed with them. It is saddening to read the Founders then to walk out your door or watch the Boob Tube and see what your nation has become.

Truth Warrior
07-24-2008, 06:13 PM
The Corporate States of Amerika. :p :rolleyes:

torchbearer
07-24-2008, 06:16 PM
The Corporate States of Amerika. :p :rolleyes:

Correction- The Corporate State of Amerika.
There are no more states. Just one big monolithics socialist republic of america. and its 57 wards.

Truth Warrior
07-24-2008, 06:18 PM
Correction- The Corporate State of Amerika.
There are no more states. Just one big monolithics socialist republic of america. and its 57 wards.
VOTE ON! :p

ARealConservative
07-24-2008, 06:27 PM
VOTE ON! :p

You talking politics with us simply perpetuates the system.....we should be shunned.

Truth Warrior
07-24-2008, 06:33 PM
You talking politics with us simply perpetuates the system.....we should be shunned.

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman

How'd you become such an "expert" ( so called ) on what I SHOULD do? :p :rolleyes: When I want your opinion, I'll just tell you what it is.

Until then just MYOB! I worked my way through your naive and childish crap > 30+ years ago, WITHOUT your advice or assistance.