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brandon
07-24-2008, 04:48 PM
www.nornc.org

The GOP protests at the convention are going to be intense. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing these "anarchists" in action. There will most likely be mass arrests, tear gas, and rubber bullets. I can't wait! If I was 6 years younger, and didn't get my recent economic education, I would most likely be crashing the party with these guys.

These people seem so close to us ideologically, but they are very confused about economics. I don't think they really understand what capitalism is. I have a feeling they think our current corporatist system is what capitalism is. Maybe we can teach some of them the truth.

I was just reading their "points of unity. (http://www.nornc.org/who-we-arepoints-of-unity/)" Number 1 is a rejection of capitalism and a rejection of state. Do they not realize that in the absence of the state, capitalism is the only possible economic system? And Number 3 is a rejection of central planning. Do these guys subscribe to some new theory of economics that doesn't involve free markets or central planning?

muzzled dogg
07-24-2008, 05:00 PM
yeah peep this:

http://www.grassrootsnetroots.org/RNC/rnc_match.cfm

Oyate
07-28-2008, 10:26 AM
These people seem so close to us ideologically

Interesting take on it. I think those people are a bunch of glue-heads, basically expressing and "anarcho-socialist" model which is in itself a massive contradiction.

My honest opinion? They are funded by our opposition. They state their clear intention to violate the law in a way that puts the citizens of MSP in danger: by arresting traffic access to a major population center they would deprive the people of needed emergency services. They sought to raise the level of fear and hostility at a time when it looked like we'd be directly involved.

CFL retreats across the river and guess what? No more overnight media attention for this "welcoming committee".

You need to develop longer vision.

brandon
07-28-2008, 10:49 AM
I don't think they are funded by anyone. They seem to be just a loose collection of pissed off teenagers. They see alot of problems with the world. They want to be free. They don't want to be ruled by a state, or forced to pay off debt of past generations. They just fail epically when it comes to identifying who and what the real enemy of freedom is.

Their protests are not in anyway connected to the CFL rally. There is no conspiracy to discredit us by having their rally at the same time. These people have protested every GOP convention for decades.

And yea, "anarcho-socialism" is an oxymoron

Dary
07-28-2008, 12:42 PM
It says on their website that they are an anarchist / anti-authoritarian organizing. I didn't see anything there about socialism. Did I miss it?

There are probably many of them that post on this board. Well there is at least one anyway. :)

They may not agree with everyone in their movement on everything, just as we don't all agree with everything in ours. In fact bullet point 4 kinda addresses the issue.

They sound like a fun bunch if you ask me. I don't see anything on their site about being violent. But even then there may be something to the argument of self defense.

I can't make it to Minneapolis, but if I could I would definitely join them get my fair share of abuse.

libertarian4321
07-28-2008, 11:30 PM
Hey, if they despise Bush/McCain, they can't be all bad...

Schlickenmeyer
08-26-2008, 12:19 AM
Well, if they agree with us on a number of things, lets look at them as misinformed, and energetic. IF this is the case, then perhaps we could work up an informational piece directed at them and try to open their eyes.
May not help us now, but in a few months or a year perhaps we can use that energy for something good.
Kind of a double whammy, take the most energetic of the opposition and put it to use against them.
I know of a lot of conversions of dems/obama types to our side lately.

Someone should run with this. (hint, hint). I cannot, too busy with the convention.

:D

Matt Collins
08-26-2008, 08:52 AM
Beware potential agent provocateurs

Conza88
08-26-2008, 08:58 AM
Anarchists... organizing.. LOL :D