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Oyate
07-17-2008, 01:24 AM
Just a side note but I want to tell this story. It's kind of funny and kind of instructive and I want to call these people out for proper shame before the community.

In advance of Dr. Ron Paul's arrival, we were naturally concerned about his safety. You never know, but there might be some nut-job who wants to bust a cap in our man's ass. And even with our limited powers of sensitivity, we decided that an assassination attempt on Ron Paul would have been like a mega huge bummer on your day so we decided to maybe not let that happen.

I mean, we have enough drama in this movement.

Wells, we had no real authority besides our t-shirts which said "revolution marshal" or "revolution medic", but we decided to clear the area backstage so we could at least have a perimeter to get our man in and out of.

And of course, everybody complied as was helpful except for two dudes.

Two, that is 2 dudes out of the whole movement just helped us out.

One guy in shorts and a navy blue t-shirt made an excellent Constitutional defense about his right to stay exactly where he was (totally valid and legitimate in my view) but he made a fallacious argument. He said "there is no security threat here" and on that note, I have to accept that the man was a psychic. he knew the future apparently. Or on the other hand, I could have doubted his word and assumed that there could be a threat that he and me or you didn't know about. But I knew what to do with this guy. Getting "bossed around" by a dude sparks some guys off. I got one of our female marshals to talk to the guy. Problem solved.

But then there is this guy, you see him in pictures, wearing his big "Uncle Sam" hat, big beer belly and loudly declaring that "I contributed $5k to this campaign and if I wanna stand right here, I'm a-gonna stand right here".

It was no wonder nobody was standing with him because I could smell the beer and alcohol coming off him.

Now I will submit this one for community approval. I mean, yes, totally we should uphold our rights to stand where we want to and say what we want, but don't we kind of work together to protect our high-value assets? I mean, working together, doesn't that go along with helping lost children or old ladies across the street?

So I let myself do something I don't ordinarily do. I challenged him verbally and visually. With my posture, I said "go ahead and hit me, I dare you" and I would have had him out of there in about 2 seconds. He was the only guy that flashed violence at us the whole day. We had a couple of nut-jobs, but this guy in his big Uncle Sam hat was the only major belligerent fool we had to deal with. But when I characterize this guy as being a big, fat jerk, I should qualify this so that there is no mistake.

When I say "big" I mean bigger than me. Significantly bigger.

When I say "fat", I mean in the medical sense as in "obese"

And when I say "jerk" I mean in the sense of a total jerk. Like your most un-favored uncle that you only have to deal with on Thanksgiving or other uncomfortable occasions.

WEe'er in touch with the people at Merrian-Websters and we're inserting a new picture about what makes one a "jerk", there's still some unclarity about how this word functions as a verb, and adverb or a predicate, but this ambiguity will resolve itself in time. For now, the guy in the big Uncle Sam hat in the blue shirt that thought he could belly-bop people around?

You, Sir, are a jerk. And I cannot determine a more fitting reward for your sincerity and dedication. Truly, you have given the word "jerk" a whole new meaning. And for this, we honor you, Sir, that our tolerance has been taken so far as to include you in our list of family.

You are a top-notch jerk. And we salute you, Sir.

Jerk off.

Roxi
07-17-2008, 01:32 AM
OK which one of you was it? i know it was someone on this forum :D

ThePieSwindler
07-17-2008, 01:39 AM
It was me. Sorry man :-(

Roxi
07-17-2008, 01:45 AM
It was me. Sorry man :-(


you ought to be ashamed of yourself, and maybe, just maybe, if you would stop swindling pies you wouldn't be such a big fat jerk:p

Oyate
07-17-2008, 02:13 AM
It was me. Sorry man :-(

And as quick at the issue is opened, it is solved. it takes a big man to say sorry. Brother, consider yourself restored to the community. And you are a big man, seen you in person. Let your sorrow become gladness, you are accepted among the warriors.

ladies and gentlemen, we have among us a warrior who is big enough to say sorry. I accept this personally and on behalf of our Marshals. This man's word is good as gold.

Remember this if and when you find yourself in the wrong. I myself have been in the wrong many times. My 3 rules are:

1. admit it. It does not have to be that big a deal.

2. Do what you can to make it right. Seeing your sincerity, your brothers and sisters in the movement will protect you.

3. Accept forgiveness. We need you to be whole. We all make mistakes. But we need you to be optimal for our people.

Big-belly brother, you have provided an example to us. By being the big man you are, you now bring us honor. Now I have a charge for you. Protect the weak. Go forth and protect those who are smaller than you. Do this and gain more than any riches on Earth, more than silver and gold, these things are the wealth of the heart and nobody ner nothing can take this away from you. You gave me a hard time. I offer you back riches beyond compare. Lay your life down for the people. You are a warrior. I know you are. Saw it in your eyes. Anyone willing to fight me is either foolish or very strong. I think you are in transition. Stick to the right path and you will become very strong. It's never too late to cross over to the right side.

Welcome home brother!

For the next week, I will put you under discipline. You will refer to yourself as "wichasha-wakan" which means "holy man". For the next week, this is your name. "Wichasha Wakan" and i want you to use this in emails and board postings and conversations with every one you meet. Just for one week. Starting now.

Cary the whole movement in your hands big guy. "Wichasha wakan". Holy man.

To all the rest of us, we are probably guilty of the wrong way. We can look into ourselves and see how we have allowed our spirits to become clouded by vanity and self-importance. And I have no answer but to do as I was told, to hold hands with you and pray.

So I pray:

Holy ones look down on us and see how hard we try. Holy Ones, look down on us favorably as we learn to join hands. Holy ones, put the belly-bop guy next to me in line because I could use a few laughs. Holy Ones, protect teh belly-bop guy and bless his house and his children and let him know we are his family.

And I know, protector spirit, that every time I ask you for something, you give it to me, as long as it is for the people. So I know that you have already brought strength and joy to belly-bopper.

A warrior is as a warior does.

Wo Lakota om, najum I speak to you in the formal tongue.

O'Mitakuye Oyasin, I acknowelege my relation to all things.

Oyate is my war name. If you want to know my real name, it is Trevor and this translates to "quick tempered warrior" or "hothead".

Trevor is good with a tomohawk. Oyate is good with words. Fat man, would you care to give a civil introduction to the people? It's time we stand loud and proud.

Conza88
07-17-2008, 02:27 AM
Haha, aww the story ended.. :( Continue it please...

Btw, any pictures of the Marshal's... (women) about? I need full documentation before I cast my vote... :D

Veritas1
07-17-2008, 03:24 AM
"For the next week, I will put you under discipline. You will refer to yourself as "wichasha-wakan" which means "holy man". For the next week, this is your name. "Wichasha Wakan" and i want you to use this in emails and board postings and conversations with every one you meet. Just for one week. Starting now. Cary the whole movement in your hands big guy. "Wichasha wakan". Holy man."


WTF have I stumbled upon with this thread? Damn, this isn't Kansas, and Dorothy took the dog with her.

You were just kidding, right Pie Swindler? please say you were just kidding.

muzzled dogg
07-17-2008, 06:30 AM
Btw, any pictures of the Marshal's... (women) about? I need full documentation before I cast my vote... :D

dude trust me the hottest chicks there were earing marshals shirts

acptulsa
07-17-2008, 06:42 AM
Fun post, Oyate, freedom's tustunukke.

That would be Mus-co-gee, warrior. Creek. One of the "Five Civilized Tribes" (as if the northern plains tribes who defeated Custer or the southwestern tribes with their world-reknowned jewelry and textiles, or the Iroquois who, I believe, gave us Thankgiving, or the Pacific Northwest tribes who fought with such tactical brilliance they were never relocated--or any of the rest--weren't more civilized than the European interlopers...:rolleyes:).

Kalifornia
07-17-2008, 07:12 AM
Um. I wasnt there, but Im now of the opinion that you are the douche like god of busy-bodyness.

Please add "i think anyone who appoints themselves the title 'marshall' is definitely a craptacular turd burgler" on the list of options on the poll, please.

acptulsa
07-17-2008, 07:39 AM
Please add "i think anyone who appoints themselves the title 'marshall' is definitely a....

The anarchists seem not to approve...

brandon
07-17-2008, 07:41 AM
There is no poll option to say the marshalls were nazis.

I think some of them definitely were Nazis. There was one situation where a gang of armed thugs (police officers) tried to steal someones hat because it said "Fuck" on it. As our troops rallied to oppose these thugs the marshals kept telling us to "STAND BACK!" and "LEAVE THE POLICE (ARMED CRIMINALS) ALONE!." It seemed they were more interested in appeasing the police then protecting one of our owns first amendment right.

ronpaulhawaii
07-17-2008, 07:53 AM
Um. I wasnt there, but Im now of the opinion that you are the douche like god of busy-bodyness.

Please add "i think anyone who appoints themselves the title 'marshall' is definitely a craptacular turd burgler" on the list of options on the poll, please.

Pssst... yer ignorance is showing ;)

Oyate did not "appoint" himself. He volunteered to fill a, (IIRC), gov't mandated requirement.

I'll be watching for your apology

:p

Danke
07-17-2008, 07:55 AM
It was me. Sorry man :-(
http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-18461524.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B6955196D-CA37-41B8-ADEA-CF405F577E02%7D

ThePieSwindler
07-17-2008, 05:00 PM
"For the next week, I will put you under discipline. You will refer to yourself as "wichasha-wakan" which means "holy man". For the next week, this is your name. "Wichasha Wakan" and i want you to use this in emails and board postings and conversations with every one you meet. Just for one week. Starting now. Cary the whole movement in your hands big guy. "Wichasha wakan". Holy man."


WTF have I stumbled upon with this thread? Damn, this isn't Kansas, and Dorothy took the dog with her.

You were just kidding, right Pie Swindler? please say you were just kidding.

Nah, wish i were but, i was just so drunk that i barely remember anything at all. I remember drinking, i remember alot of people, and i remember waking up in my bed in the hotel room. Thats about it.

brandon
07-17-2008, 05:22 PM
hahaha the thread is great.

Conza88
07-17-2008, 06:41 PM
hahaha the thread is great.

Hahaha... can I just say wow...
The man has my respect for owning up. It probably wasn't as amusing for those at the time... but it's hilarious in hindsight? hahah ahhhh ?? ;)

:D

Oyate
07-17-2008, 06:56 PM
Fun post, Oyate, freedom's tustunukke.

That would be Mus-co-gee, warrior. Creek. One of the "Five Civilized Tribes" (as if the northern plains tribes who defeated Custer or the southwestern tribes with their world-reknowned jewelry and textiles, or the Iroquois who, I believe, gave us Thankgiving, or the Pacific Northwest tribes who fought with such tactical brilliance they were never relocated--or any of the rest--weren't more civilized than the European interlopers...:rolleyes:).

Aho!

Oyate
07-17-2008, 07:36 PM
Nah, wish i were but, i was just so drunk that i barely remember anything at all. I remember drinking, i remember alot of people, and i remember waking up in my bed in the hotel room. Thats about it.

This thread really is a hoot! I especially like the quote about being "a craptacular turd burgler". I'm not too sure about the specifics, but the general idea is getting through.

I mean come on people, it might be crass or even vulger but the person who put together the string of syntax "craptacular turd burgler" deserves a round of applause.

Speaking for my self, as I laugh my guts out, that is the most simultaneously vile and eloquent string of invective I have ever heard in my life.

Patriot, you almost succeeded in doing what no government agency has been able to do to date. You cannot kill us by conventional means but you can make us die laughing.

Next event, all volunteers get "craptacular turd burgler" t-shirts.

OMFG, get me oxygen. I'm dieing over here. I'm gonna piss my pants!

constituent
07-17-2008, 07:50 PM
Nah, wish i were but, i was just so drunk that i barely remember anything at all. I remember drinking, i remember alot of people, and i remember waking up in my bed in the hotel room. Thats about it.

hell yea.

this one's goin' out to you pieswindler!



What happened?
Wake up in the morning,
clock says half past one
I have no sunglasses
As I step into the sun


There's no recollection
of the evil things I've done
My head feels like I musta' had some fun


What happened?

Last thing I remember
I was chillin at a party
Pinching grily's asses
I was drinking recklessly


I know I did something
Lord what could it be
Woke up in the morning
And all my friends hate me


What happened?

What I'm I doing here
Who is this girl in my bed
What is this shit on my face
My God, what is that awful smell


[Chorus]
She may be an angel
She may be a queen
She might be black, white, American, Indian or Japanese
Thru a bottle at a bouncer
Didn't think that he was cool
Pissed in someones drink
And thru a bike into a pool


Driven down the side walk
Like a crazy possessed fool
I broke every single traffic rule.


What happened?
What happened?

Let's go

AxXiom
07-17-2008, 08:20 PM
. . . HEAR ME ROAR!


A Turd Burgler I am not.:D

A douche maybe since I spent all day in the heat trying to keep people hydrated in spite of the water shortag. I peeled oranges for folks with heat exhaustion and ran my caboose back and forth across that field whenever someone fell out.

I volunteered to do this and will gladly do it again. It was my pleasure to serve the most intelligent, dedicated, liberty-minded, red-blooded Americans in this country.


So, No thanks is needed, Kalifornia, but could you at least, please, shutteth thy everlovin' butt?!
You are stinking up the room.

Master Yates, As far as the cops are concerned, they could have made things much more difficult for us all. You might consider that anyone who cares enough to volunteer to work in order to ensure the success of a liberty-centered event probably has no love lost for the police force. Perhaps it will even occur to you that the Marshalls likely chose to sublimate any natural aversion to LE in order to ensure a positive experience for every one. I know I kissed ass in blue so that we would have the means to get water for everyone. I normally wouldn't. (ok. maybe if it was some really H4wt a55!)

Master Yates, have you ever been tased before? I haven't but I have seen it and I have helped dig the fishhook-like barbs out of people. My advice. Don't volunteer for that gig if it's avoidable. No one got tased or sprayed or even arrested(that I know of) and we still had our fun. If you are looking for fuzz fun then go get you some anytime!
We were trying to keep peace for the many people at that rally who didn't scribble "Stormtrooper Tango" in on their agenda.


Thats All.

AxXiom






To be a part of this movement, with these people is it's own reward-so no thanks is necessary, however,

Oyate
07-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Craptabulor, crapabulicous or just plan craptational turd-burglers of the world unite!

Now is our time to....um...wait, what exectly do craptacious turd-buglers do?

Whomever is organizing this turd-burgler thing, I'm totally confused. What exactly is our objective? And do we have a budget for rubber gloves?

AxXiom
07-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Craptabulor, crapabulicous or just plan craptational turd-burglers of the world unite!

Now is our time to....um...wait, what exectly do craptacious turd-buglers do?

Whomever is organizing this turd-burgler thing, I'm totally confused. What exactly is our objective? And do we have a budget for rubber gloves?

http://www.pissedonpolitics.com/mitt%20romney%20fudge.jpg

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
AxXiom

Adam Kokesh
07-18-2008, 12:08 AM
I definitely voted "OMFG, I totally want to sleep with a R3VOlUTION Marshal!" without any hesitation. The times I needed help from marshals to make sure I was in the right place, there was always some beautiful young woman with her shirt up past her navel grabbing me by the arm and escorting me exactly where I needed to be. I wish I could remember your name, but you know who you are and your commitment (and your navel) are gorgeous!

Roxi
07-18-2008, 12:34 AM
ok when i wrote my above post i thought you were kidding.... so sorry