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NH4RonPaul
07-16-2008, 01:39 PM
I know for a fact that Kent was NOT GAY!

I have nothing against GAYS but for the BLADE to be running an article with false information in it is just DESPICABLE.

It is the lowest of the LOW. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

http://www.washingtonblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=19742

Ron Paul supporters mourn death of gay campaign chair
With no health insurance, Snyder leaves $400K in hospital bills
By LOU CHIBBARO JR, Washington Blade | Jul 16, 10:22 AM

Activists belonging to the libertarian wing of the Republican Party continue to mourn the loss of Kent Snyder, a 49-year-old gay political operative credited with propelling the presidential campaign of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) into a national, grassroots movement that raised more than $35 million.

Snyder, who served as Paul’s campaign chair, died of pneumonia on June 26 after being hospitalized for about two months and after running up medical bills exceeding $400,000, according to friends and family members, who said he did not have health insurance.

Gay staffers from the Paul campaign, some speaking on condition that they not be identified, said they learned about Snyder’s unpaid medical bills from a web site created by his friends that calls on Paul supporters to contribute to a special fund to help Snyder’s family pay the bills, which come mostly from a two-month hospitalization. So far, the site (kentsnyder.com) has raised about $32,000.

“I can’t believe he didn’t have health insurance,” said one political activist who read about Snyder’s unpaid medical bills in a story published last month in the Wall Street Journal. “I can’t believe that Ron Paul didn’t give him health insurance,” said the activist, who asked not to be identified.

The Journal story did not identify Snyder as gay; a Washington Post obituary reported Snyder died of viral pneumonia but did not mention his sexual orientation.

Craig Max, a D.C. gay Republican activist who sought to become a Ron Paul delegate to the Republican National Convention, said news of Snyder’s death and his lack of health insurance has triggered a behind-the-scenes debate among Paul supporters and libertarian activists over whether or not the Paul campaign should have provided health insurance to its staff.

Among the points raised, according to Max and others involved in the Paul campaign, is the fact that Paul is a practicing physician. Some of the Paul supporters are asking why a medical doctor, whose campaign raised $35 million in contributions, chose not to offer health insurance for his staff.

When asked at the Capitol in Washington on Wednesday about concerns raised by critics that his presidential campaign did not provide employee health insurance, Paul said only that he doesn’t believe any political campaigns offer health insurance.

“I don’t know of any campaign that has health insurance for temporary and other employees,” he said. “I’ve never had it and I’ve been in this business for 30 years. I don’t know any campaign that does.”

At least three gay Paul supporters said it was well known among Paul campaign insiders that Snyder was gay. Although Snyder shunned the public spotlight, activists and political operatives working on the campaigns of rival GOP presidential candidates, including officials with the McCain campaign, recognized Snyder’s efforts in building a major campaign operation for Paul, Paul’s gay supporters said.

“As far as his being out, I don’t think that he was ever in or anything like that,” said Jesse Benton, who served as communications director for the Paul presidential campaign. “But his romantic life was just not something that was discussed. He was the boss and that was that.”

Benton said Snyder confided in him that he had a chronic blood disorder. He said that Snyder told him the name of the disorder but Benton said he does not remember it.

“To my knowledge, Kent did not have HIV,” Benton said. “He expressed to me a couple of times what his blood disorder was, but I believe [the HIV speculation] to just be a rumor.”

Benton said it was Snyder himself who made the decision not to provide health insurance to the campaign staff.

“Kent Snyder as the chairman of the campaign ran the business operation,” Benton said. “So it was his decision as to what would be offered to employees.”

Benton said Snyder’s decision was not unusual in the realm of political campaigns.

“As a general practice, virtually no political campaigns offer health insurance,” Benton said. “It’s just not done. A campaign is a temporary organization that could disband at any minute.”

But gay Democratic activist and political consultant Steve Elmendorf disputes Benton’s assessment, saying that in recent years, a growing number of campaigns have begun providing health insurance to paid staffers, with the campaigns of Democratic candidates offering medical coverage in greater numbers than Republican candidates.

Jordan Lieberman, publisher of Campaigns and Elections’ Politics Magazine, which is considered an authority on American political campaigns, said that in the recent past, health insurance was almost never offered by campaigns operated by either Republicans or Democrats. Now, Lieberman said, the trend among larger campaigns, especially presidential campaigns, is to offer health insurance benefits.

Spokespersons for the presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and John McCain said both campaigns provide full health insurance coverage to their paid staff. A spokesperson for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign said Clinton also provided health insurance coverage to campaign staffers before she ended her campaign in early June.

On his own web site, Paul called Snyder’s death a “great loss” to the libertarian movement.

“Kent poured every ounce of his being into our fight for freedom,” Paul said. “He will always hold a place in my heart and in the hearts of my family. We deeply mourn his loss.”

Paul praised Snyder for playing a key role in advancing libertarian causes and noted that Snyder began his association with him in 1987, when he worked on Paul’s first run for president.

“Over the next 20 years, we worked together on countless projects in the name of freedom,” Paul said. “It was Kent, more than anyone else, who urged me to run again for president” in 2008.

Gay libertarian activists have praised Paul for his longstanding views calling for all Americans to be free from government intrusion into their private lives through laws and regulations. Paul voted against a proposed U.S. constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

But according to a scorecard on the voting records of members of Congress on gay-related issues, Paul voted against the interests of gays on all issues other than the marriage amendment. In the Human Rights Campaign scorecard for the 109th Congress (2005-2006), the latest scorecard that the group has issued, Paul received a score of 38 on a scale from 0 to 100.

According to HRC, Paul received a score of 25 for the 108th Congress (2003-2004) and a 0 in the 107th Congress (2000-2002).

Similar to most libertarians, Paul opposed bills like the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, or ENDA, which would ban employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, and a hate crimes bill, which would authorize the federal government to prosecute anti-gay hate crimes, on grounds that such legislation improperly expands government powers.

Blogger Rob Kall, in a July 5 posting on Opednews.com, called Kent Snyder’s death and his unpaid medical bills an ironic twist to Snyder’s libertarian philosophy.

“What a testament to the libertarian creed, which abhors the idea of universal health care,” Kall wrote. “This loyal, passionate man who died too young left his family a debt of $400,000 in medical bills,” he said. “Sadly, the libertarian heart apparently does not include health care.”

Benton and others who knew Snyder said he gave up a lucrative career as a telecommunications industry executive to work for one of Paul’s libertarian organizations before becoming the head of the Paul for president campaign. Benton said Snyder’s friends and associates from the campaign are now especially concerned that Snyder’s unpaid medical bills could adversely impact Snyder’s mother.

“I do know that Kent was an extremely proud man and he was basically financially supporting his mother and allowing her to live in a property he owned,” Benton said. “As someone who respected him very much — he had a lot of people who respected him a lot — we all know that he would turn over in his grave if his mother has to leave that property.

“So it was important for us to do what we could,” Benton said. “And I’m not a wealthy man but I made a small contribution, Dr. Paul has made a personal contribution, and a lot of the campaign staff have given what they could,” he said, referring to the special fund to help pay off Snyder’s medical bills.

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What crap! I suspect the McCain campaign is behind this total smear.

KENT WAS NOT GAY!

pacelli
07-16-2008, 01:45 PM
What the hell difference does it make whether he was gay or not? Just makes the Washington "blade" look like a prejudicial and biased organization.

votefreedomfirst
07-16-2008, 01:46 PM
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What crap! I suspect the McCain campaign is behind this total smear.

KENT WAS NOT GAY!

“As far as his being out, I don’t think that he was ever in or anything like that,” said Jesse Benton, who served as communications director for the Paul presidential campaign. “But his romantic life was just not something that was discussed. He was the boss and that was that.”

Judging by Benton's comments, it sure sounds like he was. Not that there's anything wrong with that. </Seinfeld>

Danke
07-16-2008, 01:50 PM
They keep saying he left his family a bill. Did he have a wife and children?

JosephTheLibertarian
07-16-2008, 01:52 PM
I know for a fact that Kent was NOT GAY!

How do you know?

Kludge
07-16-2008, 01:53 PM
They keep saying he left his family a bill. Did he have a wife and children?

There is a $400,000 chip-in IIRC...

Kade
07-16-2008, 01:55 PM
I know for a fact that Kent was NOT GAY!


What crap! I suspect the McCain campaign is behind this total smear.



Who cares if he was? The point of the article seems to be more that the Ron Paul campaign let the guy die.

Danke
07-16-2008, 01:55 PM
There is a $400,000 chip-in IIRC...

Ya I know.

RonPaulFanInGA
07-16-2008, 02:18 PM
Kent Snyder's wife must not have got the news.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Libertarian-Legacy--Ron-Pa-by-Rob-Kall-080705-175.html


"Perhaps if that was the rule of all political parties, Kent Snyder's wife and children..."

Danke
07-16-2008, 03:05 PM
They keep saying he left his family a bill. Did he have a wife and children?

Anyone?

votefreedomfirst
07-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Anyone?

The article says that his mother lives in a house that was owned by Kent, which may end up being seized by creditors. I doubt she would be responsible for the entire bill, but it sounds like her place of residence is at risk since it was technically Kent's property.

NH4RonPaul
07-16-2008, 06:29 PM
Kent Snyder's wife must not have got the news.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Libertarian-Legacy--Ron-Pa-by-Rob-Kall-080705-175.html

This is pure idiocy.....no health insurance in the world can prevent something like this from happening if it's going to happen..

Just another opportunist move on the part of those hawking socialized medicine.

NH4RonPaul
07-16-2008, 06:31 PM
Bad enough they have to be pushing this insurance nonsense, but now they are defaming him by calling him 'GAY'.

Just because a man is not married at his age, does NOT mean he is 'GAY'.

http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?Section=66&ID=19631

I hope someone sues their asses.

NH4RonPaul
07-17-2008, 01:14 PM
Here is another one, I hope they sue the pants off these people

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid57765.asp

NH4RonPaul
07-17-2008, 02:03 PM
http://bloggernista.com/2008/07/17/what-a-friend-he-didnt-have-in-ron-paul/

I love how they are using something Kent did himself to trash Ron Paul...
I love how they are spreading the word that Kent was supposedly 'gay' with no proof.

I'd say the family can sue for defamation and would more than enough to pay the bills.

Danke
07-17-2008, 02:07 PM
Bad enough they have to be pushing this insurance nonsense, but now they are defaming him by calling him 'GAY'.

I hope someone sues their asses.

Are you saying in today's America, calling someone a homosexual is defamation?

NH4RonPaul
07-17-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm thinking of bringing this lawsuit against these bloggers for

1 - Blaming Ron Paul for having no health care when it was Kent who made that decision
2 - Having no real proof that Kent was 'gay', and indeed when he was not, saying this all over the internet.

I am keeping a list.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8390.html

NH4RonPaul
07-17-2008, 02:11 PM
Are you saying in today's America, calling someone a homosexual is defamation?

Yes, if it is not true.

What proof do they have?

We have more proof that Obama is bisexual and had trysts with Larry Sinclair.

There was no 'openly gay' aspect of Kent at all.

Danke
07-17-2008, 02:14 PM
Yes, if it is not true.

What proof do they have?

We have more proof that Obama is bisexual and had trysts with Larry Sinclair.

There was no 'openly gay' aspect of Kent at all.

I guess. I wonder if the same holds true about calling a gay man str8? Can I get sued for that?

Uriel999
07-17-2008, 06:58 PM
Not to hijack the thread but "I have the AUDACITY to HOPE Obama will leave me with some CHANGE in my pocket." seriously gave me a good laugh.

On the topic of calling somebody gay in today's society being defamation, yes I would say so. There are still many people who think homosexuals are social pariahs. I'd say thats mostly uptight self-righteous religious folks that somehow forget those ideas of "do not judge, lest you be judged" parts of their faith.

NH4RonPaul
07-17-2008, 09:08 PM
The point is, if Kent did not himself go around saying he was GAY then no one else has the right to say it either, without proof.

He would not want this anymore than I would want you saying I slept with 5 women last night if I did not.

Why would anyone want a lie to be told about them?

It has nothing to do with passing judgment on being gay or NOT.

A lie is a defamation. Period. It hasn't anything to do with religion, as alas, I have no religion. It has to do with lying, then using that to defame Ron Paul as well, stating things like Kent would be alive if he had paid health care etc... that does not even make sense. He was treated.

Why are people not adamant about the millions of illegals that get the best of our health care for FREE and have caused over 141 hospitals to shut down on the border states? NOT ONE PEEP of indignation over that.

I would gladly pay extra for an upstanding person like Kent.

Here's another couple bloggers for the list.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6184
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6149