Op NH: Success!!!

[skiingff]

Congratulations Ron Paul supporters!!!

Operation New Hampshire (http://www.operationnh.com) is making it's very first Ad Buy tomorrow!!! The Ad Buy is for the Greater Des Moines, Iowa Broadcast area and will run from September 17 to September 24 (one week). The ad buy will cost just over $3600.

Our very first TV commercial, which will be available for preview by Friday, will air in the following Iowa cities over 50 times on local affiliates KCCI (CBS), WHO (NBC), and WOI (ABC) and be viewed nearly one million times^:

50001
Ackworth, IA*
50002
Adair, IA
50003
Adel, IA*
50005
Albion, IA
50006
Alden, IA
50007
Alleman, IA
50008
Allerton, IA
50009*
Altoona, IA
50010*
Ames, IA
50011*
Ames, IA
50012*
Ames, IA
50013*
Ames, IA
50014*
Ames, IA
50021*
Ankeny, IA
50025*
Audubon, IA
50026
Bagley, IA
50027
Barnes City, IA
50028
Baxter, IA
50029
Bayard, IA
50031
Beaver, IA
50032*
Berwick, IA
50033
Bevington, IA
50034
Blairsburg, IA
50035*
Bondurant, IA
50036*
Boone, IA
50037*
Boone, IA
50038*
Booneville, IA
50039
Bouton, IA
50040
Boxholm, IA
50042
Brayton, IA
50043
Buckeye, IA
50044*
Bussey, IA
50046
Cambridge, IA
50047*
Carlisle, IA
50048
Casey, IA
50049*
Chariton, IA
50050
Churdan, IA
50051
Clemons, IA
50052
Clio, IA
50054*
Colfax, IA
50055
Collins, IA
50056
Colo, IA
50057
Columbia, IA
50058
Coon Rapids, IA
50059
Cooper, IA
50060*
Corydon, IA
50061*
Cumming, IA
50062
Dallas, IA
50063*
Dallas Center, IA
50064
Dana, IA
50065
Davis City, IA
50066
Dawson, IA
50067*
Decatur, IA
50068
Derby, IA
50069*
De Soto, IA
50070*
Dexter, IA
50071
Dows, IA
50072
Earlham, IA
50073
Elkhart, IA
50074
Ellston, IA
50075
Ellsworth, IA
50076
Exira, IA
50078
Ferguson, IA
50101
Galt, IA
50102
Garden City, IA
50103
Garden Grove, IA
50105
Gilbert, IA
50106
Gilman, IA
50107
Grand Junction, IA
50108
Grand River, IA
50109*
Granger, IA
50110
Gray, IA
50111*
Grimes, IA
50112*
Grinnell, IA
50115
Guthrie Center, IA
50116
Hamilton, IA
50117
Hamlin, IA
50118*
Hartford, IA
50119
Harvey, IA
50120
Haverhill, IA
50122
Hubbard, IA
50123
Humeston, IA
50124*
Huxley, IA
50125*
Indianola, IA
50126*
Iowa Falls, IA
50127
Ira, IA
50128
Jamaica, IA
50129*
Jefferson, IA
50130
Jewell, IA
50131*
Johnston, IA
50132
Kamrar, IA
50133*
Kellerton, IA
50134
Kelley, IA
50135
Kellogg, IA
50137
Killduff, IA
50138*
Knoxville, IA
50139
Lacona, IA
50140*
Lamoni, IA
50141
Laurel, IA
50142*
Le Grand, IA
50143
Leighton, IA
50144*
Leon, IA
50145
Liberty Center, IA
50146
Linden, IA
50147
Lineville, IA
50148
Liscomb, IA
50149
Lorimor, IA
50150
Lovilia, IA
50151*
Lucas, IA
50152
Luther, IA
50153*
Lynnville, IA
50154
McCallsburg, IA
50155
Macksburg, IA
50156*
Madrid, IA
50157
Malcom, IA
50158*
Marshalltown, IA
50160
Martensdale, IA
50161
Maxwell, IA
50162
Melbourne, IA
50163
Melcher-Dallas, IA
50164
Menlo, IA
50165
Millerton, IA
50166
Milo, IA
50167
Minburn, IA
50168
Mingo, IA
50169*
Mitchellville, IA
50170*
Monroe, IA
50171
Montezuma, IA
50174
Murray, IA
50177
Grinnell, IA
50197
Knoxville, IA
50198
Knoxville, IA
50201*
Nevada, IA
50206
New Providence, IA
50207*
New Sharon, IA
50208*
Newton, IA
50210
New Virginia, IA
50211*
Norwalk, IA
50212
Ogden, IA
50213*
Osceola, IA
50214
Otley, IA
50216
Panora, IA
50217
Paton, IA
50218
Patterson, IA
50219*
Pella, IA
50220*
Perry, IA
50222
Peru, IA
50223
Pilot Mound, IA
50225*
Pleasantville, IA
50226*
Polk City, IA
50228*
Prairie City, IA
50229
Prole, IA
50230
Radcliffe, IA
50231*
Randall, IA
50232
Reasnor, IA
50233*
Redfield, IA
50234
Rhodes, IA
50235
Rippey, IA
50236
Roland, IA
50237*
Runnells, IA
50238
Russell, IA
50239
Saint Anthony, IA
50240
Saint Charles, IA
50241
Saint Marys, IA
50242
Searsboro, IA
50243*
Sheldahl, IA
50244*
Slater, IA
50246
Stanhope, IA
50247
State Center, IA
50248*
Story City, IA
50249
Stratford, IA
50250*
Stuart, IA
50251*
Sully, IA
50252
Swan, IA
50254
Thayer, IA
50256
Tracy, IA
50257
Truro, IA
50258
Union, IA
50259
Gifford, IA
50261*
Van Meter, IA
50262
Van Wert, IA
50263*
Waukee, IA
50264
Weldon, IA
50265*
West Des Moines, IA
50266*
West Des Moines, IA
50269
Whitten, IA
50271
Williams, IA
50272
Williamson, IA
50273*
Winterset, IA
50275*
Woodburn, IA
50276*
Woodward, IA
50277
Yale, IA
50278
Zearing, IA
50301
Des Moines, IA
50302
Des Moines, IA
50303
Des Moines, IA
50304
Des Moines, IA
50305
Des Moines, IA
50306
Des Moines, IA
50307
Des Moines, IA
50308
Des Moines, IA
50309*
Des Moines, IA
50310*
Des Moines, IA
50311*
Des Moines, IA
50312*
Des Moines, IA
50313*
Des Moines, IA
50314*
Des Moines, IA
50315*
Des Moines, IA
50316*
Des Moines, IA
50317*
Des Moines, IA
50318
Des Moines, IA
50319*
Des Moines, IA
50320*
Des Moines, IA
50321*
Des Moines, IA
50322*
Urbandale, IA
50323*
Urbandale, IA
50325*
Clive, IA
50327*
Des Moines, IA
50328
Des Moines, IA
50329
Des Moines, IA
50330
Des Moines, IA
50331
Des Moines, IA
50332
Des Moines, IA
50333
Des Moines, IA
50334
Des Moines, IA
50335
Des Moines, IA
50336
Des Moines, IA
50338
Des Moines, IA
50339
Des Moines, IA
50340
Des Moines, IA
50347
Des Moines, IA
50350
Des Moines, IA
50359
Des Moines, IA
50360
Des Moines, IA
50361
Des Moines, IA
50362
Des Moines, IA
50363
Des Moines, IA
50364
Des Moines, IA
50367
Des Moines, IA
50368
Des Moines, IA
50369
Des Moines, IA
50380
Des Moines, IA
50381
Des Moines, IA
50391
Des Moines, IA
50392
Des Moines, IA
50393
Des Moines, IA
50394
Des Moines, IA
50395
Des Moines, IA
50396
Des Moines, IA
50397
Des Moines, IA
50398
West Des Moines, IA
50421*
Belmond, IA
50470
Rowan, IA
50501*
Fort Dodge, IA
50516
Badger, IA
50518*
Barnum, IA
50519
Bode, IA
50520
Bradgate, IA
50521
Burnside, IA
50523
Callender, IA
50524*
Clare, IA
50525*
Clarion, IA
50526
Clarion, IA
50529*
Dakota City, IA
50530
Dayton, IA
50532
Duncombe, IA
50533*
Eagle Grove, IA
50538
Farnhamville, IA
50540
Fonda, IA
50541
Gilmore City, IA
50542
Goldfield, IA
50543
Gowrie, IA
50544
Harcourt, IA
50545
Hardy, IA
50546*
Havelock, IA
50548*
Humboldt, IA
50551
Jolley, IA
50552
Knierim, IA
50554*
Laurens, IA
50557
Lehigh, IA
50558
Livermore, IA
50561
Lytton, IA
50563*
Manson, IA
50566*
Moorland, IA
50569*
Otho, IA
50570
Ottosen, IA
50571*
Palmer, IA
50573*
Plover, IA
50574*
Pocahontas, IA
50575
Pomeroy, IA
50577
Renwick, IA
50579*
Rockwell City, IA
50581*
Rolfe, IA
50582
Rutland, IA
50586
Somers, IA
50591
Thor, IA
50593
Varina, IA
50594
Vincent, IA
50595*
Webster City, IA
50599
Woolstock, IA
50601*
Ackley, IA
50627*
Eldora, IA
50632*
Garwin, IA
50672
Steamboat Rock, IA
50801*
Creston, IA
50830
Afton, IA
50831
Arispe, IA
50833*
Bedford, IA
50835
Benton, IA
50836
Blockton, IA
50837
Bridgewater, IA
50839
Carbon, IA
50840
Clearfield, IA
50841*
Corning, IA
50842
Cromwell, IA
50845
Diagonal, IA
50846
Fontanelle, IA
50848
Gravity, IA
50849*
Greenfield, IA
50851
Lenox, IA
50854*
Mount Ayr, IA
50857
Nodaway, IA
50858
Orient, IA
50859
Prescott, IA
50860
Redding, IA
50861
Shannon City, IA
50862
Sharpsburg, IA
50863
Tingley, IA
50936
Des Moines, IA
50940
Des Moines, IA
50947
Des Moines, IA
50950
Des Moines, IA
50980
Des Moines, IA
50981
Des Moines, IA
51401*
Carroll, IA
51430
Arcadia, IA
51436
Breda, IA
51440
Dedham, IA
51443*
Glidden, IA
51444
Halbur, IA
51449*
Lake City, IA
51451
Lanesboro, IA
51452
Lidderdale, IA
51453
Lohrville, IA
51455
Manning, IA
51459
Ralston, IA
51462
Scranton, IA
51463
Templeton, IA
51543
Kimballton, IA
51646
New Market, IA
52211
Brooklyn, IA
52221
Guernsey, IA
52222
Deep River, IA
52232
Hartwick, IA
52531*
Albia, IA
52534*
Beacon, IA
52543
Cedar, IA
52544*
Centerville, IA
52549
Cincinnati, IA
52555
Exline, IA
52561
Fremont, IA
52569
Melrose, IA
52571
Moravia, IA
52572
Moulton, IA
52574
Mystic, IA
52577*
Oskaloosa, IA
52581
Plano, IA
52583
Promise City, IA
52586
Rose Hill, IA
52590
Seymour, IA
52593
Udell, IA
52594
Unionville, IA
52595*
University Park, IA
64661
Mercer, MO
64673
Princeton, MO

^ According to Nielsen ratings


FAQ:

Q: Why not go cable instead of broadcast? It would be cheaper.
A: Yes, but you get what you pay for. Cable ads cost as little as $10 per spot because they are seen by a lot less people than broadcast ads. In a cost-per-thousand-impressions comparrison, broadcast almost ALWAYS wins, and it wins bigtime.

Q: Why not run broadcast ads in New Hampshire? Isn't this called Operation New Hampshire?
A: Yes, it is, however this campaign will target both Iowa and New Hampshire. And if we really take off, we will target other early primary states such as Nevada and South Carolina as well. To answer the question, broadcast for NH would be impractical because there is no NH broadcast market. We'd have to run the ads from the Portland, Maine; Boston, Massachusetts; or Burlington, Vermont broadcast markets. Each of those markets reach different areas of New Hampshire, but primarily they reach places that would be wasting our money, such as Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, and Maine. Not that spreading RP's freedom-loving message is a waste of money, but we want to mainly target the early voting state of New Hampshire, NOT mainly target other states. If we're not reaching where we're targeting, I call that a waste of money.

Q: What are the EXACT numbers?
A: Well, I won't have the exacts until tomorrow -- Kara, our ad agency representative, is still tweaking things a bit. But I can tell you some approximates:

Minimum number of times your ad will air: 52
Impressions: Number of times your ad will be seen (Broadcast only): 881,277
Avg. CPS: Average cost per spot: $77.88
Avg. CPM: Average cost per thousand impressions (Broadcast only): $4.60
Cost: $4,050
-10% Off Coupon
Total Price: $3,645


Airtimes and Stations
Sep 17 - Sep 24, 2007

Impressions Spots

KCCI Weekdays 11:30p-5a
343,640 11

KCCI Weekends 10p-5a
160,361 9

WHO Weekends 12p-6p
121,407 11

WHO All week 10:30p-12:30p
147,230 7

WOI All week 10:30p-12:30a
108,639 14



The New Hampshire ad buy will be made within the next few days. I need to make it by the end of this month, because I have a 10% off coupon available to use this month. And there's no guarantee that they'll even be able to get our ads in next month (September) if we keep waiting. Our ad must be sent in and processed by the TV station, schedules fill up, and these schedules fluctuate very easily, etc.

If you want to donate to help me purchase this airtime, you can PayPal donations to donate@operationnh.com. I'm putting this money down upfront so that we can secure airtime. We have until September 10 to come up with a finalized TV ad (PLENTY of time!!!). The first ad will be available for preview by Friday and I will take opinions and input on it until Monday. On Monday or Tuesday, I will send Kara our changes and we can then re-preview the ad.

Please be aware that it's not going to be the fanciest thing in the world -- we're currently working on the professional ad -- but the professional ad will take a month to produce, plus 10 days to get approved by the ad agency, plus up to another 20 days before it will air. That's 2 months from now. We only have a mere 4 months. We need to get the ball rolling NOW. Ron Paul has 5% name recognition. We need to work on the name recognition for the 2 months until we have the professional ad, and then use that ad from there on out to bolster his image. I'm not saying the ad being made for this Iowa airtime will suck -- it won't. It's being produced professionally as well. But we have templates to work with and we have to work within the limitations of those templates, so don't expect a Super Bowl type commercial.

- B

[singapore_sling]

Thanks for doing it man, that's awesome and will help the cause greatly. Hope everyone who can donates, I would if I had $$(im 17). Its exciting to see what this grassroots campaign can do.

[Green Mountain Boy]

Awesome work! I am excited about this and can't wait to see the adds.

[danda]

This is fantastic! Thanks for the update and all the hard work, and I look forward to seeing the preview.

[FluffyUnbound]

I wonder how many other candidates have meetup groups of ordinary supporters airing television ads with their own money.

Is anyone on the board a PR person? These guys are a nice little story and someone needs to tell that story to the media. [So they can, you know, ignore it or belittle it. :-)]

[jjschless]

Nice job skiingff. Thanks for all your doing. :D

[LibertyEagle]

Minimum number of times your ad will air: 52
Impressions: Number of times your ad will be seen (Broadcast only): 881,277

1. What's an "impression"?

2. Do we have any idea of the time of day that these ads will be aired?

[M.Bellmore]

Will the ad be available for viewing on the internet (for all of those who don't live in NH or IA)?

[bbachtung]

What about cable ads in NH because of the market issues re: broadcast? I don't know if you can specify the channels, but I would think that the History Channel, CNBC, Fox News, MTV, and VH1 would all be good potential targets.

Nice work on getting this going, by the way.

[MsDoodahs]

Doing the happy dance through the livingroom!

YAY SKIING!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

[ronpaulhawaii]

1. What's an "impression"?



An audio visual seed planted in viewers minds

[Green Mountain Boy]

What about cable ads in NH because of the market issues re: broadcast? I don't know if you can specify the channels, but I would think that the History Channel, CNBC, Fox News, MTV, and VH1 would all be good potential targets.

Nice work on getting this going, by the way.

I think that's what is coming next.

[tmg19103]

Awesome job. This is truly amazing. Thank you!

Some thoughts - are you running ads now as you expect the campaign to be running ads closer to the primaries in January, or do you also expect to be running ads in December? Just curious. You have certainly done more than enough with this wonderful ad blitz as is.

Also, I would say Dr. Paul has a far better chance of winning New Hampshire over Iowa. This might be something to think about with ad buys. Dr. Paul needs exposure in both states, but my most humble opinion would be to provide more focus on New Hampshire. Just my thoughts. Certainly not my place to dictate.

Regardless, thank you so much from one Ron Paul supporter to another for your wonderful contribution to making sure we restore integrity and the rule of law to the White House. Simply fantastic!

[wgadget]

Awesome!!

But, hey, haven't you heard about the Paint the Town Ron campaign coming up September 29????

By then, Ron Paul will be a household name. Ron Paul Revolution signs will be sprouting up EVERYWHERE, attracting the attention of newscasters and everyday people driving past them on their way to and from work, etc., etc.

We're really rolling now....!!!

[Shink]

Awesome!!

But, hey, haven't you heard about the Paint the Town Ron campaign coming up September 29????

By then, Ron Paul will be a household name. Ron Paul Revolution signs will be sprouting up EVERYWHERE, attracting the attention of newscasters and everyday people driving past them on their way to and from work, etc., etc.

We're really rolling now....!!!

Hey now, look where saturating the market has gotten us: a few pissed off people, but sheer dominance of the internet and soon to be dominance of all other areas of life.

[DjLoTi]

I think NV and FL would be good places to air adds, too. Those are the other states that have an early primary, FL I think especially would be important.

Hopefully we can just set up PACs dedicated to each area, and people can just donate and we'll get the commercial playing in each respective area dependent upon the amount of donations received.

[Johnnybags]

Gotta wonder what those top tiers think when they see full page ads, planes flying banners over straw polls(LOL) and ads showing up on the idiot box not from the campaign? It would cost their paid staff 2 million to do just those three things. No wonder McCain is broke.

[stevedasbach]

No objection - just curious: why is this called "Operation NH" when the ads are being aired in IA?

[BarryDonegan]

i think they'll get a big surprise come iowa and NH primaries, when they probably THOUGHT Paul had blown his coffers on this stuff, only to find his grassroots campaign did it organically, and he still has money left over to pull a mitt romney on those two primaries.

[BarryDonegan]

i think if he blows his wad on those two primaries, and wins or places well in them, the MSM may turn around, resulting in the major money needed to burn up the rest of the nation.

[M.Bellmore]

Wow .. history channel. Almost everyone I know watches the history channel. You could slant a spot toward the history of the constitution and where we are now.

That'd be cool! :D

[specsaregood]

No objection - just curious: why is this called "Operation NH" when the ads are being aired in IA?

It seems somebody skipped over the FAQ section of the post.


FAQ:
Q: Why not run broadcast ads in New Hampshire? Isn't this called Operation New Hampshire?
A: Yes, it is, however this campaign will target both Iowa and New Hampshire. And if we really take off, we will target other early primary states such as Nevada and South Carolina as well. To answer the question, broadcast for NH would be impractical because there is no NH broadcast market. We'd have to run the ads from the Portland, Maine; Boston, Massachusetts; or Burlington, Vermont broadcast markets. Each of those markets reach different areas of New Hampshire, but primarily they reach places that would be wasting our money, such as Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, and Maine. Not that spreading RP's freedom-loving message is a waste of money, but we want to mainly target the early voting state of New Hampshire, NOT mainly target other states. If we're not reaching where we're targeting, I call that a waste of money.

[skiingff]

I have a question for you guys. Instead of the first ads going out in Iowa, we can do broadcast in New Hampshire from the Boston broadcast market -- which will reach 75% of the population of New Hampshire in addition to much of Massachusetts and a sliver of Vermont. This would be a good idea because the ads will air from Sept 17-18 to Sept 24-25, and there is a nationally televised debate scheduled on September 27 in Hanover, New Hampshire (New England Cable News, New Hampshire Public Radio, and NBC News will host this Republican debate at Dartmouth College). We can get the ads in just in time for the debate to bolster Ron Paul's name recognition so people know who to watch out for in the debate. At the same time, we can get some media attention from the Boston Herald, which is read all over New England, and maybe national media attention as well.

This would cost $10,000 minimum for a good TV ad campaign, but it might be worth it over the Iowa ads...

I've listed all the New Hampshire locations that are in the Boston broadcast market and some of the populations for some of the bigger cities and towns in the market.
03031*
Amherst, NH (Pop. 11,000)
03032*
Auburn, NH
03033*
Brookline, NH
03034*
Candia, NH
03036*
Chester, NH
03037*
Deerfield, NH
03038*
Derry, NH (Pop. 35,000)
03040
East Candia, NH
03041
East Derry, NH
03042*
Epping, NH
03043*
Francestown, NH
03044*
Fremont, NH
03045*
Goffstown, NH (Pop. 17,000)
03046
Dunbarton, NH
03047
Greenfield, NH
03048*
Greenville, NH
03049*
Hollis, NH
03051*
Hudson, NH (Pop. 23,000)
03052*
Litchfield, NH
03053*
Londonderry, NH (Pop. 24,000)
03054*
Merrimack, NH (Pop. 25,000)
03055*
Milford, NH (Pop. 13,500)
03057*
Mont Vernon, NH
03060*
Nashua, NH (Pop. 90,000)
03061
Nashua, NH
03062*
Nashua, NH
03063*
Nashua, NH
03064*
Nashua, NH
03070*
New Boston, NH
03071*
New Ipswich, NH
03073
North Salem, NH
03076*
Pelham, NH (Pop. 12,500)
03077*
Raymond, NH
03079*
Salem, NH (Pop. 28,000)
03082
Lyndeborough, NH
03084*
Temple, NH
03086*
Wilton, NH
03087*
Windham, NH (Pop. 11,000)
03101*
Manchester, NH (Pop. 110,000)
03102*
Manchester, NH
03103*
Manchester, NH
03104*
Manchester, NH
03105
Manchester, NH
03106*
Hooksett, NH (Pop. 12,000)
03107
Manchester, NH
03108
Manchester, NH
03109*
Manchester, NH
03110*
Bedford, NH
03111
Manchester, NH
03216
Andover, NH
03218*
Barnstead, NH
03220*
Belmont, NH
03221
Bradford, NH
03224*
Canterbury, NH
03225
Center Barnstead, NH
03226*
Center Harbor, NH
03229*
Contoocook, NH
03230
Danbury, NH
03231
East Andover, NH
03233
Elkins, NH
03234*
Epsom, NH
03235*
Franklin, NH
03237*
Gilmanton, NH
03242*
Henniker, NH
03243
Hill, NH
03244*
Hillsboro, NH
03246*
Laconia, NH (Pop. 16,500)
03247
Laconia, NH
03249
Gilford, NH
03252
Lochmere, NH
03253*
Meredith, NH
03255
Newbury, NH
03256*
New Hampton, NH
03257*
New London, NH
03258*
Chichester, NH
03260
North Sutton, NH
03261*
Northwood, NH
03263*
Pittsfield, NH
03268
Salisbury, NH
03269
Sanbornton, NH
03272
South Newbury, NH
03273
South Sutton, NH
03275*
Suncook, NH
03276*
Tilton, NH
03278
Warner, NH
03281*
Weare, NH
03287*
Wilmot, NH
03289
Winnisquam, NH
03290*
Nottingham, NH
03291
West Nottingham, NH
03298
Tilton, NH
03299
Tilton, NH
03301*
Concord, NH (Pop. 42,000)
03302
Concord, NH
03303*
Concord, NH
03304*
Bow, NH
03305
Concord, NH
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03431*
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03435
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03440*
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03456
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03468
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03602*
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03604*
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03609*
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03801*
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03809*
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03810
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03811*
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03837
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03858*
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03859
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03862*
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03865*
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03866
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03867*
Rochester, NH
03868
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03869*
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03870*
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03871
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03873*
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03874*
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03878*
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03884*
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03885*
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05101*

[american.swan]

Situation ONE:
I am counting on the national media to ignore him until it looks like he will win the nomination.

THEN the national media will down play any chance of him winning against Clinton/WHOEVER.

Second situation is he runs third party and is also ignored by the MSM.

Third situation is a write-in and they won't even talk about him. Only make jokes.

ONLY HOPE:
....PAINT THE TOWN RON
....more GRASSROOTS action.
....SOME LOCAL media outlets(radio).
....small town papers.

We, ourselves, and us are the only MEDIA we can count on.

SO FORGET MSM they WON'T BE ON OUR SIDE!!! EVER NEVER NEVER!!

[Green Mountain Boy]

I have a question for you guys. Instead of the first ads going out in Iowa, we can do broadcast in New Hampshire from the Boston broadcast market -- which will reach 75% of the population of New Hampshire in addition to much of Massachusetts and a sliver of Vermont. This would be a good idea because the ads will air from Sept 17-18 to Sept 24-25, and there is a nationally televised debate scheduled on September 27 in Hanover, New Hampshire (New England Cable News, New Hampshire Public Radio, and NBC News will host this Republican debate at Dartmouth College). We can get the ads in just in time for the debate to bolster Ron Paul's name recognition so people know who to watch out for in the debate. At the same time, we can get some media attention from the Boston Herald, which is read all over New England, and maybe national media attention as well.

This would cost $10,000 minimum for a good TV ad campaign, but it might be worth it over the Iowa ads...


I like this option a lot and think it would be a good use of the money - but then again, I am biased because of my location. :D

[tmg19103]

Here's the way I look at it. Just my opinion. RP's best chance in Iowa is 2nd to Romney. Romney has truly bought the state. Huckabee has picked up the Christian Right in Iowa and Browback has part of that. How Tancredo got 4th in the straw, and why Iowans in the middle of the country are so worried about illegal immigration surprises me. I think they bought Tancredo's "We win, you lose" line. Tells me Iowans go for a patriotic, nationalistic, realtively pro-war Christian stance. With the right marketing RP could move up to two, but it would be tough.

The shocker would be RP winning NH as Romney is right next door from MASS. NH has become more liberal in recent years, but still has a strong streak that lends to RP's message. The people of NH really know Romney and are thus aware of his flip-flopping and the two straw polls in NH have both been won by RP with over 60% of the vote in each. IF RP won NH in Romney's back yard it would be a shocker - and the MSM could not ignore that. Even if he does not win NH, I think RP has a solid shot at second while in Iowa I'm not sure second is viable.

It's a tough call on how to divide up these TV ads between the states. I'm not going to say what should be done as others might have better ideas. Just my thoughts.

[DjLoTi]

Lets not worry about second or third or first. Lets just FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT and keep pushing more and more ... and we'll see what affect it has come voting time.

[redpillguy]

Donated.

Thanks for the good work!

[CountryB4Party]

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Fellow supporters, with all due respect for the passion and enthusiasm, you guys are discussing very specific strategy (media buys) in a very open, public place.

Please - I beg you - please consider the consequences and take strategic discussions to a more private location.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

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[MsDoodahs]

I'm not concerned about the "Romney camp" or the "Guiliani camp" knowing that we - THE GRASSROOTS PAUL SUPPORTERS - are going to run some ads.

I'm not concerned because those guys don't have anywhere close to a similar grassroots network and they'd have to blow their entire "war chest" in order to BUY this kind of support.

And even if they tried to buy themselves a grassroots network, money cannot buy this kind of passionate support.

[FluffyUnbound]

With regard to cable vs. broadcast in NH, sure using the Boston broadcast stations gets you most of New England, but the question becomes if you actually WANT most of New England.

The overwhelming majority of the eyeballs you'd be buying would be in MA. Is the MA primary a priority?

You might be better off with fewer impressions per ad, if all of those impressions are NH impressions. And only cable allows you to target by zip code, right?

[BillyDkid]

Are there two supporter ad campaigns going on? Is this a different campaign that the one I just donated to under the "Only 3 months left..." thread at the top? These are two separate efforts going on???

[Slugg]

Is there a sample video yet?

[skiingff]

No it's the same effort. The sample video will be available for preview by Friday if not earlier. Disregard this thread, I'll create a new one so I can make a poll about where we should make our first airtime purchase (IA vs NH; cable vs broadcast). I'll explain the pros and cons of each. This thread wouldn't let me add a poll after-the-fact.

[amga49]

This will be a great achievement. I will try to make a donation to this project very soon.

[CountryB4Party]

I'm not concerned about the "Romney camp" or the "Guiliani camp" knowing that we - THE GRASSROOTS PAUL SUPPORTERS - are going to run some ads.

I'm not concerned because those guys don't have anywhere close to a similar grassroots network and they'd have to blow their entire "war chest" in order to BUY this kind of support.

And even if they tried to buy themselves a grassroots network, money cannot buy this kind of passionate support.

Ms DooDahs and fellow supporters,
The issue is not about the origin of the ads (grassroots, no grassroots, national, etc.). The issue is about the specifics of the creative and the media buy itself!

Opposition camps have a massive amount of money to spend on advertising. If they know we (be it grassroots or national) are targeting a certain market; when we are targeting a certain market; what stations and what times we are running; and what we are messaging.........well, you don't think they will drop a few $ to place a stronger, counter attack media buy to totally overshadow anything we attempt??? It would be a drop in the bucket for them.

20+ years experience here including international agency experience. I am a corp marketing consultant, and, at one point in my profession, I was a national media buyer. I know the game.

By holding these conversations in public, you are making a monumental mistake which could easily result in a complete dilution of your efforts and a waste of valuable money.

Please consider the consequences of your collective actions and agree to take your strategic planning conversations to secure back channels.

Yours in Liberty,

Dena Turner

[slantedview]

Ms DooDahs and fellow supporters,
The issue is not about the origin of the ads (grassroots, no grassroots, national, etc.). The issue is about the specifics of the creative and the media buy itself!

Opposition camps have a massive amount of money to spend on advertising. If they know we (be it grassroots or national) are targeting a certain market; when we are targeting a certain market; what stations and what times we are running; and what we are messaging.........well, you don't think they will drop a few $ to place a stronger, counter attack media buy to totally overshadow anything we attempt??? It would be a drop in the bucket for them.

20+ years experience here including international agency experience. I am a corp marketing consultant, and, at one point in my profession, I was a national media buyer. I know the game.

By holding these conversations in public, you are making a monumental mistake which could easily result in a complete dilution of your efforts and a waste of valuable money.

Please consider the consequences of your collective actions and agree to take your strategic planning conversations to secure back channels.

Yours in Liberty,

Dena Turner

I take it that this is an argument for censoring/hiding the specific info about when/where the ad will be played, in place of more general info.

Sounds fine by me.

[skyorbit]

Here's the way I look at it. Just my opinion. RP's best chance in Iowa is 2nd to Romney. Romney has truly bought the state. Huckabee has picked up the Christian Right in Iowa and Browback has part of that. How Tancredo got 4th in the straw, and why Iowans in the middle of the country are so worried about illegal immigration surprises me. I think they bought Tancredo's "We win, you lose" line. Tells me Iowans go for a patriotic, nationalistic, realtively pro-war Christian stance. With the right marketing RP could move up to two, but it would be tough.

The shocker would be RP winning NH as Romney is right next door from MASS. NH has become more liberal in recent years, but still has a strong streak that lends to RP's message. The people of NH really know Romney and are thus aware of his flip-flopping and the two straw polls in NH have both been won by RP with over 60% of the vote in each. IF RP won NH in Romney's back yard it would be a shocker - and the MSM could not ignore that. Even if he does not win NH, I think RP has a solid shot at second while in Iowa I'm not sure second is viable.

It's a tough call on how to divide up these TV ads between the states. I'm not going to say what should be done as others might have better ideas. Just my thoughts.

I think Ron Paul has a good chance at winning New Hampshire anyway. So we shoud focus on Iowa. Iowa's not a winner take all state, so we could get a lot of delegates from Iowa even if Romney does do best.

Tracy

[CountryB4Party]

I take it that this is an argument for censoring/hiding the specific info about when/where the ad will be played, in place of more general info.

Sounds fine by me.

Precisely...in addition to any and all messaging strategy and copy.

There are extremely valid reasons why employer and contractor/consultant confidentiality and non-compete agreements exist in business, and I have signed many throughout my career.

Don't tip your hand to the opposition. Work smart to maximize critical impact.

[Cowlesy]

I agree with the premise that it's giving up material non-public information that should be kept in-pocket.

The only counter argument would be, do active supporters of the other groups even care about Ron Paul yet?

In either case, I'd support err'ing on the side of caution and creating a secure thread where people have donated to the cause can be issued a pword to view the thread. Those who haven't donated but would like to view the thread could request a password from the thread moderator (after a little vetting/confirmation from said moderator). You could still advertise what you're planning on the public board so that there would still be knowledge that something is going on, but it'd force those who wish to have knowledge to confirm who they are.

I don't know ZIP about these boards or how anything works on the internets, but that might be a good way to keep plans secure.

[Green Mountain Boy]

I agree with the premise that it's giving up material non-public information that should be kept in-pocket.

The only counter argument would be, do active supporters of the other groups even care about Ron Paul yet?.

The worry is not that the average joe Romney supporter will come across this info. It's a precaution against people working for the other campaigns - Rudy McRomney's advisors and such, who might find this info helpful to them.

[Man from La Mancha]

I agree with the premise that it's giving up material non-public information that should be kept in-pocket.

The only counter argument would be, do active supporters of the other groups even care about Ron Paul yet?

In either case, I'd support err'ing on the side of caution and creating a secure thread where people have donated to the cause can be issued a pword to view the thread. Those who haven't donated but would like to view the thread could request a password from the thread moderator (after a little vetting/confirmation from said moderator). You could still advertise what you're planning on the public board so that there would still be knowledge that something is going on, but it'd force those who wish to have knowledge to confirm who they are.

I don't know ZIP about these boards or how anything works on the internets, but that might be a good way to keep plans secure.
Maybe CountryB4Party has some ideas on security on this because I can't see a way of keeping moles out, heck one our most biggest donors or creators could be a mole.

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[Lord Xar]

Hey Skiing.. awesome..

Do you have Kara's info. I am looking for the western states to promote with a commercial I am currently working on. -- (pm me her info)

BUT, do you have Kara's contact info... is this from "adrunners"?

[MsDoodahs]

Okay, I do understand where you're coming from with the "don't tip your hand" aspect but on the other hand...

Password protected threads and secret handshakes are no way to encourage donations.

Balance between the two - sure, you can give the secret handshake to only contributors, but what is to stop Romney et al from donating and getting the info ANYWAY?

Not a damn thing.

JMO, YMMV.

:)

[CountryB4Party]

Maybe CountryB4Party has some ideas on security on this because I can't see a way of keeping moles out, heck one our most biggest donors or creators could be a mole.

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From my perspective, there is not a completely secure method; however, there is a vast difference between added security and public venues.

The owner of this site could easily create a member verified, more secured section to hold strategic and tactical planning discussions. Since there are so many people at this site, this process makes most sense.

However, there is another site that was created just for this purpose featuring better project tools:

Open public section and a Verified Member Section

Vetting is first handled through Meet Up Organizers and then a personal vouching system if the person is not associated with a Meet Up group (most are, however).

Sub-forums for Meet Up groups organized by region, then state, then Meet Up group (Hawaii and are currently in the process of bring their operations to that site). Complete control of each Meet Up sub-forum is given to the organizer.

Sub-forums for specific large-scale projects

Document repository and upload/download feature

Voice chat rooms and net meeting capabilities

However, the site owner adds features as requested / needed

Anyway, this is not a 'sales pitch'. The purpose is let you know the site tool is available and to provide this site owner a list of what could be done with this site.

My personal concern is for strategic discussions to be taken out of the wide open public domain and moved to a/any location with some level of security, and that people take a step back for a just a moment from their enthusiasm to be involved to gain a better understanding of the consequences.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

http://ronpaulnetwork.info/forum/index.php is the above referenced site.

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[MsDoodahs]

Take the ideas private and you lose a great deal of the creativity - and you'll lose at least some of the fundraising ability.

I will not donate to any ideas where I'm told "please give, it's this secret project we're working on" or "we cant' tell you what it is but if you'll send us $50, we'll send you the secret handshake and let you in on it."

(Skiing - I will honor my contribution promise to you even if you decide to take further discussion of your work private. :) )

Again, JMO and YMMV.

[CountryB4Party]

Okay, I do understand where you're coming from with the "don't tip your hand" aspect but on the other hand...

Password protected threads and secret handshakes are no way to encourage donations.

Balance between the two - sure, you can give the secret handshake to only contributors, but what is to stop Romney et al from donating and getting the info ANYWAY?

Not a damn thing.

JMO, YMMV.

:)

Ms Doodahs, with all due respect, you are misrepresenting the issue: there are no "secret handshakes" being suggested. And, I am completely lost on your donation logic but I will try to track with you.

Contributors donate based on action, results and request....not planning. If one strategizes in public and the results are diluted in the execution due to a quick and precise opposition counter, you have dramatically increased your risk of losing contributions from a lack of impact and results, not gaining them.

If anyone is concerned about keeping the momentum and interest going with supporters, all supporters can continue to be involved. Locate or create a more secure area or site; EVERYONE can go through the vetting process and participate just as they are here. In other words, it's basically picking up this site, and moving it to a more secure location - be it within this forum or somewhere else. It's not private; it's not exclusionary.

Engage in strategic promotion of the events for those who, for reasons not understood by me, do not want to be in a more secure environment.

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To all, I have stated the case. I hope you will consider the advice and the consequences.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner


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[MsDoodahs]

Ms Doodahs, with all due respect, you are misrepresenting the issue: there are no "secret handshakes" being suggested. And, I am completely lost on your donation logic but I will try to track with you.

Contributors donate based on action, results and request....not planning. If one strategizes in public and the results are diluted in the execution due to a quick and precise opposition counter, you have dramatically increased your risk of losing contributions from a lack of impact and results, not gaining them.

If anyone is concerned about keeping the momentum and interest going with supporters, all supporters can continue to be involved. Locate or create a more secure area or site; EVERYONE can go through the vetting process and participate just as they are here. In other words, it's basically picking up this site, and moving it to a more secure location - be it within this forum or somewhere else. It's not private; it's not exclusionary.

Engage in strategic promotion of the events for those who, for reasons not understood by me, do not want to be in a more secure environment.

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To all, I have stated the case. I hope you will consider the advice and the consequences.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner


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Excuse the f&&& out of me, but I have no interest in being VETTED by you or anyone else for that matter.


Yours in Liberty? Liberty means not having to be VETTED, GD it.

edited for language. Anger got the best of me.

[Man from La Mancha]

I like the part about the local meet up groups deciding when and where ads would be run, it would sure be hard for an outside source to monitor all meetup groups. They can always get suggetions by phone from the forum group members.

[CountryB4Party]

I will not donate to any ideas where I'm told "please give, it's this secret project we're working on" or "we cant' tell you what it is but if you'll send us $50, we'll send you the secret handshake and let you in on it."



Based on your statement, you have obviously missed the entire proposal. Hopefully, someone else can assist with the reasoning as I really must be more productive with my time. The plate is full.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

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[MsDoodahs]

Based on your statement, you have obviously missed the entire proposal. Hopefully, someone else can assist with the reasoning as I really must be more productive with my time. The plate is full.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

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Oh, I understand your proposal.

You think we need to be CONTROLLED.

I DON'T.

Simple as that.

[CountryB4Party]

Oh, I understand your proposal.

You think we need to be CONTROLLED.

I DON'T.

Simple as that.

You obviously have no experience in business. The issue is not about control; it is about security and working smart to maximize critical impact. Nothing more.

Good day to you, Ms. Doodahs.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

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[tmg19103]

Looking at this specific issue of TV ads I see two points. One, certain aspects need to be in the open to promote creativity and to generate all important donations. I'm not going to blindly donate to something unless I have an idea what it is about and how it will work. This forum has a lot of people who view it and who can donate. Going to a more "secure" environment will cut down on donations. Two, there should be SOME concern about opposing campaigns using this info against us, but I would not be overly concerned.

My thoughts: The whole idea of buying TV ads, voting on the YouTubes that should make up the ads, and even showing the ads ahead of time on this board should not be a problem. It pumps the troops and helps with donations. Yeah, a big campaign might be able to use that info to quickly put up competitive ads to our message, but they can do the same once they see the ads on TV anyway. Allowing this to be in the open allows for creativity, pumps up the troops and pumps up $$$ donors.

I'm not sure all the stations and times we plan to run the ads should be posted. I agree that the MeetUps for the states are probably best to handle that. Funny thing, though. I was at the Greater Philly MeetUp the other night when a guy I know from high school showed up at the MeetUp while making an effort to buy and put on an RP button - with he and his buddy being the only ones to bother to put on an RP button at the MeetUp while many others had RP t-shirts on, etc. This is the LAST guy I ever would have expected to be an RP supporter and the very thought crossed my mind that night if perhaps he worked for another campaign. Who knows? RP has a great message, so maybe he is for him. I wondered though, when at the end of the meeting, he said he likes RP but is for the war in Iraq. Hmmmmmm.......

I don't think having this in the open will have terrible consequences, but using some caution makes sense. Hey, I'm involved with Sematary on setting up the Philly Rally Nov. 10. So what if the competition knows? There is no way they can generate that type of grassroots support for an event. If they tried something like it - it would be run by their campaign with people bused in and free dinners offerred. We are doing this on our own without campaign money.

So, perhaps some caution is in order, but in a way, if we are in the open and other campaigns were to fret about us, it allows the actual RP campaign to do their own sneak attacks with ads or whatever. If other campaigns are worried about what we are doing here, it only helps the actual RP campaign as what we do is generally different form the RP campaign, so other campaigns will really be stretched on what to look for from the RP campaign.

Also, I think Rudy, Mitt and Fred are more worried about each other, but I agree caution should be a consideration - but also not over blown like how fearful we should be of terrorists per Bush. We should not have a fearful grassroots campaign, but rather a creative and fun one with some pre-cautions.

[MsDoodahs]

You obviously have no experience in business. The issue is not about control; it is about security and working smart to maximize critical impact. Nothing more.

Good day to you, Ms. Doodahs.

Yours in Liberty,
Dena Turner

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meritocracy of ideas

[susano]

Ms Doodahs, I think you're reading CB4P all wrong.

Opposition campaigns are full of experienced and smart people, and they can only benefit from too much information. I'm thrilled about the ad campaign, but I understand the need for being discrete. Nobody tips their hand before playing it, though everyone knows you're at the table. I don't have to see the details discussed publically in order to donate. It's not about controlling anyone, but self (Ron Paul campaign strategy) protection.

[libertarian4321]

Ron Paul supporters are amazing- the only ones who would take the initiative to do something like this. You sure as heck won't find Giuliani supporters doing this. Or Romney supporters (unless he pays them).

Spent the afternoon painting "Ron Paul 2008" on my roof- hope aircraft can see it :)

[skiingff]

I've been so all-over-the-place talking about the airtime purchases, I don't believe *anyone* could tell what we plan to do besides purchase ads in Iowa or New Hampshire or both...

With that said, I will continue to give out general info but will not discuss specifics until the ad purchase has been complete and some time has passed. I will release the specifics after those two conditions are met because by then, it will be too late for anyone to purchase airtime that competes with us.

The main point here is to do what I'm doing -- stir up discussion and get people talking.

We need a continuous flow of ideas, debates, etc. about this so we can make informed decisions.

- B