They're in RI now!

[cska80]

RI is considering selling interstate 95 to a 'private company' and use tolls to generate revenue on top of taxes. Gee, I wonder who the company is? I see they are also working on doing the same to NC's section of I-95........and the selling off of American infrastructure continues.

Zomg I must be a conspiracy theorist! There is no NAFTA Super Highway! It's only a coincidence the above is outlined on a map and in print in Late, Great, USA!

[nobody's_hero]

How can Rhode Island sell federal property?

I need a primary source.

[cska80]

http://www.projo.com/news/content/DOT_TOLLS_07-14-08_LEARBAA_v10.4037a5a.html

That's the source. I've emailed WND, Drudge, AJ and some local talk radio hosts.

[Sandra]

http://www.projo.com/news/content/DOT_TOLLS_07-14-08_LEARBAA_v10.4037a5a.html

That's the source. I've emailed WND, Drudge, AJ and some local talk radio hosts.


I'll bet this is the same company of Canadian investord trying to make the Baton Rouge loop.

[Joseph Hart]

As a local resident I'm disgusted with this direction. WE WILL FIGHT THIS!

[Carole]

This may be that Spanish company that has been leasing in other states.

Frankly, I think this is going to happen in all the states because, frankly, I suspect it is a part of the PNAC and NAU treaties. No one is talking about it, but it has been happening. How else could a Federal highway be sold off this way unless it had the blessing of the federal government. Isn't Julianni part of these negotiations?

They are already set to take over highways in several states.

Piece by piece, America is being sold and these legislators are drinking the kool-aid of "easy money" and not having to be responsible for the maintenance.

Americans are going to be paying for every mile they drive in new tolls.

[Jeremy]

I don't know much about Rothbardians, but wouldn't they (market anarchists) support it since it's going to the market... away from the government...

Can a market anarchist respond? I'm interested in a response...

[JosephTheLibertarian]

RI is considering selling interstate 95 to a 'private company' and use tolls to generate revenue on top of taxes. Gee, I wonder who the company is? I see they are also working on doing the same to NC's section of I-95........and the selling off of American infrastructure continues.

Zomg I must be a conspiracy theorist! There is no NAFTA Super Highway! It's only a coincidence the above is outlined on a map and in print in Late, Great, USA!

What gives the right for government to hand over roads to corporations? This is called fascism. No, I'm not a socialist. Here's my three-point road plan:


cut off funding
leave them alone
see what happens

[Jeremy]

What gives the right for government to hand over roads to corporations? This is called fascism. No, I'm not a socialist. Here's my three-point road plan:


cut off funding
leave them alone
see what happens


you were supposed to reply to my post :mad:

[pdavis]

I don't know much about Rothbardians, but wouldn't they (market anarchists) support it since it's going to the market... away from the government...

Can a market anarchist respond? I'm interested in a response...

No, we don't, at least I don't. This is not a legitimate transaction since the government does not have a legitimate claim to the property; therefore, the state cannot sell, lease, nor transfer the property to someone else.

[Jeremy]

No, we don't, at least I don't. This is not a legitimate transaction since the government does not have a legitimate claim to the property; therefore, the state cannot sell, lease, nor transfer the property to someone else.

But isn't that like saying people who buy slaves out of slavery is a bad thing?

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I don't know much about Rothbardians, but wouldn't they (market anarchists) support it since it's going to the market... away from the government...

Can a market anarchist respond? I'm interested in a response...

Mixed.

I'm not a market anarchist.

I don't think the government has any right to even exist, so why would I then say ok "government can auction off roads to the highest bidder." That is nonsense.

I do agree with this strictly politically speaking, however :D but my alternative is better imo ironic, huh?

[Joseph Hart]

Mixed.

I'm not a market anarchist.

I don't think the government has any right to even exist, so why would I then say ok "government can auction off roads to the highest bidder." That is nonsense.

I do agree with this strictly politically speaking, however :D but my alternative is better imo ironic, huh?

I am almost sure that every Interstate used Eminent Domain to seize land for the junction of travel. So if they sell the land that was once private does that make it fraud?

[pdavis]

But isn't that like saying people who buy slaves out of slavery is a bad thing?

No. When buying slaves out of slavery(this is illegitimate as well since the master has no legitimate claim over another human being, therefor the master should not receive any compensation), when the transaction has occurred, the title to the slave is being abolished rather than transfered. In the case of the state selling land or roads, the property title is being transfered to someone else, the landlord. In this case, neither the state nor the landlord has legitimate claim since the state stole the property and the landlord was not the original (or current) homesteader(s).

Example: Say there is an island with 100 people and they all own property. One day the government of the island decides to confiscate all property and to transfer and sell the property to a small group of people. Who are the legitimate property owners, the state, the small group of people, or the original owners?

[nobody's_hero]

I am almost sure that every Interstate used Eminent Domain to seize land for the junction of travel. So if they sell the land that was once private does that make it fraud?

You're probably right about the eminent domain, but the land doesn't appear to be going back to its original owners. So, I think it doesn't matter what they do with it now; anything would be fraud.

Simply put: it wasn't theirs to take, and it isn't theirs to sell.

I've never really thought about this. There are a lot of toll highways in the U.S. I wonder how many of them share a similar story.