FBI to start tracking iris scans

[Matt Collins]

"The FBI has confirmed to Popular Mechanics that it's not only adding palm prints to its criminal records, but preparing to balloon its repository of photos (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4270770.html), which an agency official says 'could be the basis for our facial recognition.' It's all part of a new biometric software system that could store millions of iris scans within 10 years and has privacy advocates crying foul (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021202777.html).

Quoting: 'The FBI's Next Generation Identification (NGI) system, which could cost as much as $1 billion over its 10-year life cycle, will create an unprecedented database of biometric markers, such as facial images and iris scans. For criminal investigators, NGI could be as useful as DNA some day — a distinctive scar or a lopsided jaw line could mean the difference between a cold case and closed one. And for privacy watchdogs, it's a dual threat — seen as a step toward a police state, and a gold mine of personal data waiting to be plundered by cybercriminals.' "

[Truth Warrior]

Hey FBI, in your spare time, how about releasing ALL of the 9/11 Pentagon "757" attack videotapes you illegally confiscated, under orders from someone(s) I'll assume? ;)

Where's a Zapruder when you need one? :)

[HOLLYWOOD]

I won't work for all women...

When Women get pregnant, their Retinas/IRIS change. But I'm sure the secondary provisions are in place; RealID, Fingerprints, Credit Card charge tracks, Banking information, Mobile Phone call and conversations, GPS tracking via Mobile Phones, Email/Internet IP account tracking, Face Detection Recognition, and DNA.

Plenty of Secondary Stalin Program Statistics... "Your Papers and Database... Now!"

[Roxi]

what about people who have those designer contacts like cat eyes or something? will the retina scanner say they are a cat?

LOL

[youngbuck]

what about people who have those designer contacts like cat eyes or something? will the retina scanner say they are a cat?

LOL

They'll make you take those out before they scan your eye for the database. If not, you get tased.

[orafi]

I won't work for all women...

When Women get pregnant, their Retinas/IRIS change. But I'm sure the secondary provisions are in place; RealID, Fingerprints, Credit Card charge tracks, Banking information, Mobile Phone call and conversations, GPS tracking via Mobile Phones, Email/Internet IP account tracking, Face Detection Recognition, and DNA.

Plenty of Secondary Stalin Program Statistics... "Your Papers and Database... Now!"

You could probably simulate that with the right hormone supplements, even if you were a guy.

[Matt Collins]

will the retina scanner say they are a cat?Retna scans and iris scans are two entirely different things.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

"The FBI has confirmed to Popular Mechanics that it's not only adding palm prints to its criminal records, but preparing to balloon its repository of photos (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4270770.html), which an agency official says 'could be the basis for our facial recognition.' It's all part of a new biometric software system that could store millions of iris scans within 10 years and has privacy advocates crying foul (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021202777.html).

Quoting: 'The FBI's Next Generation Identification (NGI) system, which could cost as much as $1 billion over its 10-year life cycle, will create an unprecedented database of biometric markers, such as facial images and iris scans. For criminal investigators, NGI could be as useful as DNA some day — a distinctive scar or a lopsided jaw line could mean the difference between a cold case and closed one. And for privacy watchdogs, it's a dual threat — seen as a step toward a police state, and a gold mine of personal data waiting to be plundered by cybercriminals.' "

I don't think I like this very much.

[Ranger29860]

what is with popular mechanics getting told this?

alot of the articles ive seen in there are very pro government

just my personal observation

[Matt Collins]

what is with popular mechanics getting told this?

alot of the articles ive seen in there are very pro government

Popular Mechanics is owned by The Hearst Corporations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Corporation



See who else these guys own (assuming Wiki is accurate):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Hearst_Corporation


ALSO OWNED BY HEARST:



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Newspapers



[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_Enterprise"]Beaumont Enterprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Hearst_Corporation#Sources ) (Beaumont, Texas)
Edwardsville Intelligencer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwardsville_Intelligencer) (Madison County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_County%2C_Illinois), Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois))
Houston Chronicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Chronicle) (Houston, Texas)
Huron Daily Tribune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huron_Daily_Tribune) (Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan))
Laredo Morning Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laredo_Morning_Times) (Laredo, Texas)
Midland Daily News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Daily_News) (Midland, MI)
Midland Reporter (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Midland_Reporter&action=edit&redlink=1) (Midland, Texas)
Plainview Daily Herald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plainview_Daily_Herald) (Plainview, Texas)
San Antonio Express-News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Express-News) (San Antonio, Texas)
San Francisco Chronicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Chronicle) (San Francisco, California)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Post-Intelligencer) (Seattle, Washington)
Times Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Union) (Albany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albany%2C_New_York), New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York))


Magazines



CosmoGIRL! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmoGIRL%21)
Cosmopolitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmopolitan_%28magazine%29)
Country Living (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Country_Living&action=edit&redlink=1)
Esquire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquire_%28magazine%29)
Good Housekeeping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Housekeeping)
Harper's Bazaar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper%27s_Bazaar)
House Beautiful (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Beautiful)
Marie Claire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Claire)
O at Home (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=O_at_Home&action=edit&redlink=1)
O, The Oprah Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%2C_The_Oprah_Magazine)
Popular Mechanics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mechanics)
Quick & Simple (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Quick_%26_Simple&action=edit&redlink=1)
Redbook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redbook)
Seventeen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_%28magazine%29)
SmartMoney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartMoney)
Teen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen)
Town & Country TRAVEL (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Town_%26_Country_TRAVEL&action=edit&redlink=1)
Town & Country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_%26_Country)
Veranda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranda)


Television



WCVB-TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCVB-TV) (Boston)
WMOR-TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMOR-TV) (Tampa)
WTAE-TV (Pittsburgh)
WESH-TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WESH-TV) (Orlando)
WBAL-TV (Baltimore)
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WMUR-TV (Manchester, NH)
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WXII-TV (Winston Salem)
WLKY-TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLKY-TV) (Louisville)
KOAT-TV (Albuquerque)
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KCCI-TV (Des Moines)
KITV-TV (Honolulu)
KETV-TV (Omaha)
WAPT-TV (Jackson, MS)
WPTZ-TV/WNNE-TV (Burlington, VT)
KHBS-TV/KHOG-TV (Fort Smith, AR)
KSBW-TV (Monterey)


Business media



White Directory Publishers/ THE TALKING PHONE BOOK [1] (http://www.talkingphonebook.com/),
Black Book
IC Master
Collision Database
Diversion
Electronic Engineers Master Catalog
Electronic Products Magazine
First DataBank
Fitch Ratings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitch_Ratings) (20%) - Fimalac (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fimalac&action=edit&redlink=1) (80%)
Floor Covering Weekly
IDG/Hearst
Local.com
Motor/AllData
Motor Books
Motor Magazine
NOVA Electronik
Stocknet
StructuredContent
TL Publications
Used Car Guides


Cable



A&E Television Networks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26E_Television_Networks) (Hearst: 37.5%, The Walt Disney Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company): 37.5%, NBC-Universal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC-Universal): 25%)

A&E Network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26E_Network)
The History Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_Channel)
The Biography Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biography_Channel)
History Channel International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_International)
The Military Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_History_Channel)
Crime & Investigation Network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_%26_Investigation_Network)





Cosmopolitan TV



Lifetime Entertainment Services (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifetime_Entertainment_Services) (50/50 joint venture with The Walt Disney Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company))

Lifetime Television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifetime_Television)
Lifetime Movie Network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifetime_Movie_Network)
Lifetime Real Women (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifetime_Real_Women)





NECN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NECN)



TVA Sistema de Televisão (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TVA_Sistema_de_Televis%C3%A3o&action=edit&redlink=1) (Brazil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil)) (minority shareholder)



ESPN, inc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN) (Hearst: 20%, The Walt Disney Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company): 80%)

ESPN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN)
ESPN2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN2)
ESPN Classic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Classic)
ESPNEWS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPNEWS)
ESPN Deportes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Deportes)
ESPNU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPNU)
ESPN Now (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ESPN_Now&action=edit&redlink=1)
ESPN Plus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Plus)
ESPN Original Entertainment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Original_Entertainment)
ESPN Pay-Per-View (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_PPV)
ESPN Regional Television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Regional_Television)
ESPN International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_International) (see for complete list of channels)

North American Sports Network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Sports_Network)
TSN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sports_Network) (30%)


ESPN Radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Radio)
Mobile ESPN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_ESPN)
ESPN360 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN360)
ESPN The Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_The_Magazine)
ESPN Home Entertainment (currently distributed by Genius Products)
ESPN Outdoors

BASS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassmasters_Classic)


ESPN Digital Center
Arena Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League) (undisclosed minority stake acquired December 2006)




Radio



WBAL-AM (Baltimore)
WIYY-FM (Baltimore)


Interactive media

Investments include:

XM Satellite Radio
MetaTV
Circles
Mobility Technologies
Cymfony
drugstore.com
Referral Networks
Hire.com
govWorks.com
Genealogy.com (http://www.genealogy.com/)
Scene7
Tavolo
Medscape (http://www.medscape.com/home)
iVillage, Inc.
Brandwise
LiveWorld (http://www.liveworld.com/)
Broadcast.com
Exodus
E Ink Corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Ink_Corporation)
Zip2
I Pro
Netscape
UGO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UGO) Networks


Other



King Features Syndicate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Features_Syndicate)
Reed Brennan
CDS Global (http://www.cds-global.com/)
Hearst Holdings, Inc.
Fleischer Studios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleischer_Studios)

[Ranger29860]

Town & Country TRAVEL (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Town_%26_Country_TRAVEL&action=edit&redlink=1)
Town & Country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_%26_Country)


omg they are evil :eek:

[FindLiberty]

[insert picture from Pan's Labyrinth - Wacky monster dude with eyeballs in his palms]

[add bold text: Next Generation Identification (NGI) system: Efficiency]

[Ozwest]

Nice point Matt Collins.
Qft.

[SeanEdwards]

what about people who have those designer contacts like cat eyes or something? will the retina scanner say they are a cat?

LOL

They'll neuter you before letting you board an airplane.

Edit: It's kind of too late to be worried about this. The government already has huge databases of biometric identifiers in the form of fingerprints and dna.

[Matt Collins]

Nice point Matt Collins.Well it's always good to know who owns who. That way you'll have an idea of which interests they are looking to serve.

[Ozwest]

I attempt to own women.

It never quite works out. :D

[Alex Libman]

It's not the technology that is frightening, it's the growth of government power.

[Ozwest]

It's not the technology that is frightening, it's the growth of government power.

That's because we are all terrorists or child molesters.

[Ozwest]

Ask yourselves.

Do I limit my free speech? Just a bit.

Am I concerned what others might hear?

Creeping fascism.

[Matt Collins]

I attempt to own women.Even at $100/hr it's often cheaper and less hassle just to rent one. :cool:

[Ozwest]

Sleaze has its price.

You are a debauched puppy.

[HOLLYWOOD]

It's not the technology that is frightening, it's the growth of government power.

IRIS Scanning Disadvantages

* Iris scanning is a relatively new technology and is incompatible with the very substantial investment that the law enforcement and immigration authorities of some countries have already made into fingerprint recognition.
* Iris recognition is very difficult to perform at a distance larger than a few meters and if the person to be identified is not cooperating by holding the head still and looking into the camera.
* As with other photographic biometric technologies, iris recognition is susceptible to poor image quality, with associated failure to enroll rates.
* As with other identification infrastructure (national residents databases (RealID Crap), other ID cards, etc.), civil rights activists have voiced concerns that iris-recognition technology might help governments to track individuals BEYOND THEIR WILL!
* Get your Dilation Optometrist drops: Dilated Eyes will give inaccurate results!

[Ozwest]

IRIS Scanning Disadvantages

* Iris scanning is a relatively new technology and is incompatible with the very substantial investment that the law enforcement and immigration authorities of some countries have already made into fingerprint recognition.
* Iris recognition is very difficult to perform at a distance larger than a few meters and if the person to be identified is not cooperating by holding the head still and looking into the camera.
* As with other photographic biometric technologies, iris recognition is susceptible to poor image quality, with associated failure to enroll rates.
* As with other identification infrastructure (national residents databases (RealID Crap), other ID cards, etc.), civil rights activists have voiced concerns that iris-recognition technology might help governments to track individuals BEYOND THEIR WILL!
* Get your Dilation Optometrist drops: Dilated Eyes will give inaccurate results!

It is the "droid" attitude of people which is alarming.

Stop being observers, and get physical.

[SeanEdwards]

It's not the technology that is frightening, it's the growth of government power.

But does this really represent a growth of government power? They already maintain a vast database of biometric identifiers. There's a hell of a lot of jobs that require a fingerprint screening. Anything requiring a security clearance, and any job that involves working with children. At least in California that's the law. You submit your fingerprints and they run it through their databases to make sure you ain't an escaped convict or something.

So if they replace their fingerprint database, with an eyeball database, what's the difference?