Why Did Obama Win?

[Primbs]

According to this map, Obama mainly wins in caucus states.
http://www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/2008-election-map.html#/demresults-nprOvM/

One has to ask why did Obama do well in caucus states? and not primary states?

Strong Organization is one answer. In low turnout caucus states having more television will just fall on deaf ears. When only one in ten or one in five voters turn out for a caucus to vote for several hours, radio, direct mail or TV will not suffice.

It takes a committed on the ground, strong volunteer presence to physically escort voters to the caucus.

How did Obama get such a large trained organization to ID voters, persuade voters, drive the voters to the caucus to vote, Obama's campaign ran campaign schools and trained paid staffers and volunteers to carefully count their supporters.

Camp Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zack-exley/obama-field-organizers-pl_b_61918.html

Everyday the campaign had goals with confirmed numbers of supporters. They used many management metrics to track their supporters.

The Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty can do that as well. For all of the future liberty candidates, we need a strong A team of leaders who can hit the ground running and put into place professional campaigns for Ron Paul candidates.

The opponents have professional organizers with decades of experience working against us.

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[SWATH]

Where is option
"media was infatuated with him"

[Kade]

Where is option
"media was infatuated with him"

They really weren't before Iowa...

[mediahasyou]

Where is option
"media was infatuated with him"

Agreed. MSM voted for America's president.

[canadian4ronpaul]

identity politics

[Zolah]

Where is option
"media was infatuated with him"

+1

[Kludge]

Charisma + more populism in his policies + "Change"

[SevenEyedJeff]

Where is the option, New World Order was behind him?

[acptulsa]

They've been pushing him on the public since Kerry's convention....?

Don't see a button for it. Sorry.

[No1ButPaul08]

There are a lot of reasons Obama is the nominee. Clinton's vote for the War and Obama's speaking skills have to top the list.

But I don't think the Des Moines Register poll (whether real or manipulated) effect can be discounted. Matt Towery, a pollster who was easily the best this primary season, who also said that if Reagan were alive he would most likely vote for Ron Paul (http://www.creators.com/opinion/matthew-towery/would-reagan-vote-for-ron-paul.html), explains



“Until Wednesday night, our polling of this race has consistently shown John Edwards enjoying a majority of these second-preference choices.

In my judgment, the Des Moines Register’s poll has changed the dynamics of the race. We saw a rapid spike in support for Barack Obama immediately after the Register’s poll was released to so much fanfare and acclaim. The second choice preferences in our final poll became an even split between Obama and Edwards.

There’s no doubt in my mind that the Register’s poll is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.



Second, a Des Moines Register poll that appeared just days before the Iowa caucus created a wild scenario that had hordes of young voters stampeding one another on the way to vote for Obama.

Those projections didn't materialize. But they did something better for Obama: The publicity about the poll persuaded many caucus participants to cast their second ballots for Obama when their first choice didn't get the required 15 percent of the vote on the first ballot.

The next day after the Des Moines poll, our polls showed a massive shift to Obama as the "second choice." The poll became self-fulfilling.

In this video
(http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/webcasts.aspx?wid=117) he talks about the Register's poll and how it propelled Kerry to his victory in Iowa.

If this poll doesn't get released, Edwards wins Iowa, and Obama likely never picks up the momentum he needs to win.

[Mesogen]

Because he wasn't Clinton, Biden, Edwards, Dodd, etc.

[FindLiberty]

Couldn't vote because I did not see the appropriate choice...

Has a "go along with the program" voting record that pleases our gov/corporate masters.
He's been THE CFR/insider endorsed presidential "winner" for a few years now.
He has lots of (external) brain power behind those speeches/policy that are prepared for him to present to the sheeple
...and media received strict marching orders to grovel or it's spontaneous infatuation for this guy.

Gotta admit, he's a very smooth presenter - he looks the part.

I think I see the future where his face and a holographic rainbow is prominently featured on the new $500 "Amero" bill.

[Andrew-Austin]

Hes a more charismatic figure, who does not have to work against the grain like Hillary does in terms of winning the public's trust.

Did not vote as no option seemed legit, the closest option I'd go for is "he is the best candidate". But that is too vague, I don't mean hes better policy wise at all.

[James Madison]

Where is the option, New World Order was behind him?

+1

[zach]

He's as trendy as those damn Crock shoes.

And it's cool to be trendy even when you don't understand how the hell it helps you.

[yongrel]

Because he is a reptoid.

[Time for Change]

Not enough options.

MEDIA HYPE
IGNORANT SUPPORTERS
FLAT OUT FRAUD

[Paulitician]

He's a Muslim, and the terrorists have won.

[Time for Change]

He's a Muslim, and the terrorists have won.

Even joking that scares the shit out of me...:(

[Drknows]

None of the above how do you all forget so quickly?

Mccain and Obama won because of the media. If Ron Paul received the same amount of air time and fair coverage from these "journalists". he would be the next president.

Obama had a easy start and pass from the media. They didn't question him at all or even look into his past during the early primaries. They focused in on two candidates Hillary and Obama. They didnt even follow the Republican primary really they just mentioned Mccain and Mitt over and over like parrots, before it was even about them.

When people come home from work everyday and all they see and hear is Obama this Mccain that they think those two Won and nobody else has a chance.

They shape public opinion.

They can make you forget there is a war going on, they can make you vote for it twice, they can make you forget the reason gas is so high and the economy is going to shit until your broke and foreclose. They can make you want to pay more in taxes and want to give more overseas. Because ratings are more important Mr Bill Orielly's and Chris Matthew's. The people need to hear the same old story of Good vs Evil.

[constituent]

They really weren't before Iowa...

see cover of Time magazine circa 2004 (it might have been 2005).

i saw it at the HEB in Moore Plaza (corpus christi), and my wife asked "who is that?"

i told her, "the next president of the united states."

[Drknows]

see cover of Time magazine circa 2004 (it might have been 2005).

i saw it at the HEB in Moore Plaza (corpus christi), and my wife asked "who is that?"

i told her, "the next president of the united states."

Yeah i know they were promoting Obama way before it even started trying to shape public opinion.

I remember placing two bets one on Obama and one on Mccain in 2005 or 2006.

I just knew because every other week they would name drop and mention something about that noob senator and straight talker. I kept thinking why is this guy even being discussed?


Now i know why.

[Zippyjuan]

Ron Paul did better in caucus states too.

[newbitech]

all of the above

[youngbuck]

Where is the option, New World Order was behind him?

Yea, that's basically what I thought. Just new birdcage liners.

[V-rod]

After Iowa? Oh Please. I remember over a year ago when they started talking about Obama out of the blue, he was JUST elected Senator months before and all they mentioned was his "great Speech at the 2004 convention" and that he would make a great candidate. The media shoved this inexperienced socialist down our throats, and forced everyone to swallow.

[SWATH]

The MSM was infatuated with him since 2004. Every time I would turn on the tv to watch the news since last January, Obama, Obama, Obama. It was like all the talking heads found a new cool friend to show off, like George Costanza in that episode where he has the man-crush on Elane's cool boyfriend. It would be hilariously pathetic if it wasn't so dangerous.

[Theocrat]

Obama won because he gave us HOPE FOR CHANGE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU) and told us, "YES, WE CAN!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY) :rolleyes:

[Truth Warrior]

He got more and enough convention delegates. Just a SWAG! ;)

:D

[Smiley Gladhands]

The MSM was infatuated with him since 2004. Every time I would turn on the tv to watch the news since last January, Obama, Obama, Obama. It was like all the talking heads found a new cool friend to show off, like George Costanza in that episode where he has the man-crush on Elane's cool boyfriend. It would be hilariously pathetic if it wasn't so dangerous.

I remember the phrase "rising young star" used quite a bit in reference to him (by the media). The media repeated that phrase a bunch and everyone who watched the news thought they were ahead of the curve since they knew about and liked Obama. Yeah, self-fulfilling media-driven prophesy, along with the nod from TPTB.

[brandon]

because he is black

[Truth Warrior]

Because he's NOT Hillary! :D

[Roxi]

wheres the option for: the establishment knew hillary had her own agenda and obama is a puppet

[SeanEdwards]

Where is the "stupid people want to be deluded by a personality cult" option?

[Truth Warrior]

wheres the option for: the establishment knew hillary had her own agenda and obama is a puppet
Hillary is an NWO sock puppet too. ;)

[UnReconstructed]

Where is the option "scapegoat"?

[Aratus]

in light of today's announcement... hillary has her sweet choises come this monday...

[constitutional]

That poll is senseless. Let's see

More Money Leads to--> Better Campaign Managers -->Smarter Strategy-->Better Campaign Organization-->Better television and radio commercials -->More Volunteers --> As a result, he was a better candidate in people perception.

Question to ask is who was supporting him with money earlier?

[Roxi]

none of the above


1. people are afraid of hillary

2. hes a media golden boy

3. he played the race card

4. he lies

[BuddyRey]

Barack Obama won because of vague, glittery slogans, a naive public, and the fact that he looks good on TV. That's it.

[H Roark]

None of the above. It is soley due to the MSM blackout of Ron Paul coupled with extensive coverage of McCain and Obama, with Obama winning out based on personality politics. But I do think the thread title is a bit presumptive, we still got an election ahead of us!

[LibertyEagle]

Excuse me....

For those of you who chose "better candidate" --- better candidate than WHOM? Are you saying that Obama is a better candidate than Ron Paul?

Just curious.

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRTK62pVWQ

[Anti Globalist]

It's a combination of a few things.

1. He's black
2. He was a great campaigner.
3. He had a much better personality than McCain.
4. He sounded less hawkish than McCain.