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Kludge
07-01-2008, 10:01 PM
Congressional Medal for Karl Marx (http://www.johnmccainforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1524)
From Johnmccainforum.com

"Ok, ok I know... most of us Republicans are instantly turned off at the slightest mention of Karl Marx. After all, back during the cold war the threat of communist Russia was the main concern of our great nation. It stands to reason that Marxism and likewise Karl Marx got a bad name because of this.

There are plenty of well thought out critiques of Mr. Marx's philosophy. However, in the current era our biggest threat is no longer Russia, but the Islamo Fascists. In light of this, I think it is important we revisit the philosophy and legacy of Karl Marx.

Taking a closer look at what the man actually wrote reveals a great magnitude of accurate predictions and good ideas. After our capitalist culture peaked, it became necessary to begin regulating industry and the money supply for the common good. The capitalist machine is a great hinderance on the governments ability to legistalte swiftly and effectively. While of course I don't propose we switch to Baryy Obama's style of socialism, we do need to make sure the government has adequeate control over the markets and wealth of the nation. It is vital to gaurding our nation from those who seek to do us harm.

Senator McCain is well aware of this, and a close look at his platform reveals quite a heavy influence by Marx. I don't mean the demonized Marx of the cold war era, but the thoughtful Marx that realized the importance of government intervention into the marketplace.

In light of this, I feel the time has come to award Karl Marx a congressional medal of honor. All those in favor, say aye!"

brandon
07-01-2008, 10:02 PM
;)

RSLudlum
07-01-2008, 10:31 PM
This proposal has my support and move for an amendment which adds the condition that every citizen will be furnished with a FREE Karl Marx Congressional Medal replica and as a presentation of unwaivering patriotism in this Great Land of Democracy, must bear it in full visibility upon entering their proper polling places in the 2008 Presidential Election.

V-rod
07-02-2008, 06:47 PM
If John McCain is Karl Marx, then Obama is Pol Pot

Imperial
07-03-2008, 11:13 AM
Sorry, McCain is not Karl Marx.

1) McCain would have to be a philosopher. Ever read his books? Huge spacing and they are still tiny, not to mention lacking substance.

2) Karl Marx's ideas centered on a disenfranchised industrial-worker class rising up en masse to demand a change from an exploitive capitalist system to a utopian world system spearheaded by the workers.

So, really, McCain nor Obama would fit that definition. Obama is closer, but in reality you could compare his supporters to how Marx treated peasants: a reactionary force only, that doesn't really make its own decisions but rather follows the trends. And besides that, he does little real philosophy.

Really, Ron Paul would follow best under this, as he wants a large grassroots to spearhead a revolution in thought. Also, he has for over twenty years been a leader in libertarian thought, with his own well-formed ideas.

The difference, of course, is that he recognizes that Marx's communist system would be treating symptoms of a problem like any welfare state, rather than making true prosperity. In addition, Ron Paul has no qualms about making use of "peasant" groups; he wants ALL people to join the Revolution.