Ron Paul on Thom Hartmann NOW

[ladyjade3]

Dr. Paul on Thom Hartmann now!

http://airamerica.com/thomhartmannpage/

[Kludge]

Thank you =)

[Kludge]

Daaaaaahum, he's really grilling him.

[ladyjade3]

Dr. Paul knows his Constitution.

[SnappleLlama]

Updates!! We need updates!!

[LittleLightShining]

ronpaul.com?

I can't stand this guy. But at least he had him on. I'm surprised.

[ladyjade3]

What do you think? Was that worthwhile?

[Kludge]

What do you think? Was that worthwhile?

That was pretty intense... Hartmann was attacking Dr. Paul where he knew it'd do the most damage. Hope it sparked some interest among some Neocons ;)


Cheers!

[LittleLightShining]

What do you think? Was that worthwhile?I only heard the last 2 minutes where Hartmann was flabbergasted that RP doesn't think the govt. should be regulating the food industry and implied that we would end up as a nation of malnourished diarrhea spewers.

[Kludge]

"I refer to libertarians as conservatives who want to smoke dope and get laid"

Omg... I'm turning it off now :p

[LittleLightShining]

"I refer to libertarians as conservatives who want to smoke dope and get laid"

Omg... I'm turning it off now :pYeah, this guy is driving me nuts. You should keep listening, though. I wish I had a transcript of this liberal loving tirade he's on right now.

[ladyjade3]

eewww...

[SnappleLlama]

How did Ron Paul handle himself? Cool and collected as usual?

[micahnelson]

"I refer to libertarians as conservatives who want to smoke dope and get laid"

Omg... I'm turning it off now :p

So conservatives are asexual puritanical libertarians?

[Kludge]

How did Ron Paul handle himself? Cool and collected as usual?

Yes, but he was given less time then usual to respond... The pace was very fast, and not well-suited to the explanations required for non-empty rhetoric.

[SnappleLlama]

Yes, but he was given less time then usual to respond... The pace was very fast, and not well-suited to the explanations required for non-empty rhetoric.

Poor Ron! :(

I should send him another box of chocolate chip cookies...

[LittleLightShining]

So conservatives are asexual puritanical libertarians?I'm not ;) I took issue with that statement, too, though. It was more the way he said it-- like Libertarians are the ultimate blend of all that is wrong with society.

[V-rod]

I really hate Air America

[The_Orlonater]

These neo-liberals(I guess you can call them this) are evil....evil....

[kcroyalscott]

so does anyone have a link of the entire interview? All I can find is them talking about the dept of education and if it's constitutional or not. The fact they actually had a conversation about the Constitution is a step above anything on mainstream tv.

[powerofreason]

airhead america... thought they went bankrupt a while back. guess not :(

[Kade]

Dr. Paul on Thom Hartmann now!

http://airamerica.com/thomhartmannpage/

Hartmann is one of my favorite liberals... many of my positions were influenced by his writings and his radio show. He responds to me often when I write to him. Good to see that he is talking to Ron Paul.

[Kade]

I'm not ;) I took issue with that statement, too, though. It was more the way he said it-- like Libertarians are the ultimate blend of all that is wrong with society.

Libertarians attack Liberals. I think it only fair they get some in return... no?

[Kade]

so does anyone have a link of the entire interview? All I can find is them talking about the dept of education and if it's constitutional or not. The fact they actually had a conversation about the Constitution is a step above anything on mainstream tv.

Hartmann always talks about the Constitution.

[frasu]

anybody has the mp3 of this? or maybe is not worth it...

[Kludge]

Libertarians attack Liberals. I think it only fair they get some in return... no?

No. We're factually correct when we call non-libertarians the scum of the earth.

:p

[Kade]

anybody has the mp3 of this? or maybe is not worth it...

You stole my sig... :mad:

[ClayTrainor]

anybody has the mp3 of this? or maybe is not worth it...

i wouldnt mind listening to this myself.

[Kade]

No. We're factually correct when we call non-libertarians the scum of the earth.

:p

Libertarians don't even agree with each other...

[Lord Xar]

Hartmann always talks about the Constitution.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAA.... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

That is like saying "The devil talks about the bible".

[Kludge]

Libertarians don't even agree with each other...

On what?

Here's all I can think of...

+Which dept's to cut, from 90% to 100%
+"Truth"
+God

"libertarian" liberals and authoritarian liberals disagree on issues.

[Kade]

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAA.... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

That is like saying "The devil talks about the bible".

Considering the amount of death and destruction of life in the bible, I imagine the societal understanding of the devil would talk about the bible often... it has been used to destroy more than it has been used to save...

I don't know why you are laughing, I don't really think you know what you are talking about.

He is a very well read scholar and analysis of the Constitution actually...

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0129-26.htm


You know, my opponents on this forum seem to think laughing in all caps proves something... I doubt you even listen to Hartmann.

[Kade]

On what?

"libertarian" liberals and authoritarian liberals disagree on issues.

Anarchist libertarians, conservative libertarians, objectivists, left-libertarians, minarchist, and anarcho capitalists all differ on many issues.

[LittleLightShining]

Considering the amount of death and destruction of life in the bible, I imagine the societal understanding of the devil would talk about the bible often... it has been used to destroy more than it has been used to save...

I don't know why you are laughing, I don't really think you know what you are talking about.

He is a very well read scholar and analysis of the Constitution actually...

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0129-26.htm


You know, my opponents on this forum seem to think laughing in all caps proves something... I doubt you even listen to Hartmann.He has Bernie Sanders on on Fridays and I try to listen to him then since Bernie is my senator.

[Kludge]

Anarchist libertarians, conservative libertarians, objectivists, left-libertarians, minarchist, and anarcho capitalists all differ on many issues.

left-libertarians don't exist. The others have virtually no disagreements on policies (except whether to cut 95% of all gov't programs or 100%).

[Kade]

left-libertarians don't exist. The others have virtually no disagreements on policies (except whether to cut 95% of all gov't programs or 100%).

Left-libertarians (http://www.democraticfreedomcaucus.org/) do exist.

[Kludge]

Left-libertarians (http://www.democraticfreedomcaucus.org/) do exist.

Those are libertarian liberals. You can be influenced by libertarianism as a liberal, but not liberalism as a libertarian.

[Kade]

Those are libertarian liberals. You can be influenced by libertarianism as a liberal, but not liberalism as a libertarian.

Familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Labels are stupid, that I can admit, but pretending that your label is better than some other chumps label is like the "two girls and one cup" arguing about the color of the cup.

[Kludge]

Familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Labels are stupid, that I can admit, but pretending that your label is better than some other chumps label is like the "two girls and one cup" arguing about the color of the cup.

I don't want my label bastardized/confused any more then it already is.

[Kade]

I don't want my label bastardized/confused any more then it already is.

I would actively help you in that goal if my label wasn't also abused as such... sorry. If I'm a liberal by the way you define it, than you are a libertarian the way Hartmann and others defines it. Fair?

[Kludge]

I would actively help you in that goal if my label wasn't also abused as such... sorry. If I'm a liberal by the way you define it, than you are a libertarian the way Hartmann and others defines it. Fair?

Agreed. I can live with the "Pot, Porn & Gambling" label.

[Kade]

Agreed. I can live with the "Pot, Porn & Gambling" label.

Libretardian?

[Kludge]

Libretardian?

Liberal?

:)

[kcroyalscott]

Hmmm Still no link. This interview really didn't go well... Ha

[Kade]

Hmmm Still no link. This interview really didn't go well... Ha

Hartmann is not a slouch. I would be pleasantly surprised to see a link to the interview on a Pro-Paul site, they don't tend to post the links where RP gets refuted soundly about the Constitution...

[Kade]

Anyway, here is the link elsewhere: http://airamerica.com/content/thom-and-congressman-ron-paul-impeachment

[Lord Xar]

Considering the amount of death and destruction of life in the bible, I imagine the societal understanding of the devil would talk about the bible often... it has been used to destroy more than it has been used to save...

I don't know why you are laughing, I don't really think you know what you are talking about.

He is a very well read scholar and analysis of the Constitution actually...

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0129-26.htm


You know, my opponents on this forum seem to think laughing in all caps proves something... I doubt you even listen to Hartmann.

You missed my point. But you seem to be so caught up in yourself you can't see outside yourself.

Why would you have opponents on Ron Paul Forums? Curious.

Lastly, I don't find you important enough, nor interesting enough to be my opponent. Sorry.

[V-rod]

I think me and Kade are one of the few on these forums willing to pick one of the lesser evils, Obama "Karl Marx" Hussein aka Jeremiah Farrakhan, for him and John "McLame Amnesty, the leftist enviro-nut" McCain for me.

Would be nice to have more debate about the those two guys other than the same old "SCRew THose NWO Puppets! I'm not voting!!11!1".

[Lord Xar]

I think me and Kade are one of the few on these forums willing to pick one of the lesser evils, Obama "Karl Marx" Hussein aka Jeremiah Farrakhan, for him and John "McLame Amnesty, the leftist enviro-nut" McCain for me.

Would be nice to have more debate about the those two guys other than the same old "SCRew THose NWO Puppets! I'm not voting!!11!1".

That is on the both of you! What is there to talk about?

The same tactic you use on us, we can use on you.
"I will vote for the lesser of two evils because otherwise we are handing the country someone worse..." or <--- fill in your own hypothesis on why you will vote for the special interest controlled shill. Does it really matter? You like snickers, Kade likes Reeses <-- different flavors but its candy nonetheless. Still bad for you. Just boils down to a personal preference on something bad.

If voters would break the stranglehold that the two party (controlled and manuevered) system has on us, by voting for alternatives - we'd be out of this mess by now. BUT, we still buy into that "voting for the lesser of two evils". What does it matter then? If BOTH of your choices, like the federal reserve chairman, are given to the people by those in power - what does it matter who you vote for. You are feigned a choice, but you have no choice. You are voting for a flavoring of sugar, but your tooth is still gonna rot.

CHUCK BALDIN or BARR or If I have the chance I will write RON PAUL'S name in.

Most of us here have more concerns than "debating" on why we should or should not vote for special interests shills. We have a country to worry about. We really don't need to get into a "debate" with those who are not truly interested in spreading the freedom message. But moreso than any of that - we dine not to play the same game, with the same rules anymore. We want change. We want to awaken people, yet we play the game and still vote the way we are told - that makes no sense. Our conscious is now important.

[hrdman2luv]

I really hate Air America

When Mark Riley was on, I used to call it Air Mexico. That SOB called me a racist for telling him that most of the mexican on the produce docks in California was illegal..........Considering that I used to pick up produce there every week. And talked to alot of the dock workers (at least the ones that could speak english).

I haven't listened to Air America in a long time. And I don't miss it. Liberals think that the Government should hold everyones hand (even the ones that don't want it) from cradle to grave. And that when you actually reach the middle to upper class, then you should be banished from society for making too much money.

Mike Malloy was fun to listen to most of the time though.

[hrdman2luv]

That is on the both of you! What is there to talk about?

The same tactic you use on us, we can use on you.
"I will vote for the lesser of two evils because otherwise we are handing the country someone worse..." or <--- fill in your own hypothesis on why you will vote for the special interest controlled shill. Does it really matter? You like snickers, Kade likes Reeses <-- different flavors but its candy nonetheless. Still bad for you. Just boils down to a personal preference on something bad.

If voters would break the stranglehold that the two party (controlled and manuevered) system has on us, by voting for alternatives - we'd be out of this mess by now. BUT, we still buy into that "voting for the lesser of two evils". What does it matter then? If BOTH of your choices, like the federal reserve chairman, are given to the people by those in power - what does it matter who you vote for. You are feigned a choice, but you have no choice. You are voting for a flavoring of sugar, but your tooth is still gonna rot.

CHUCK BALDIN or BARR or If I have the chance I will write RON PAUL'S name in.

Most of us here have more concerns than "debating" on why we should or should not vote for special interests shills. We have a country to worry about. We really don't need to get into a "debate" with those who are not truly interested in spreading the freedom message. But moreso than any of that - we dine not to play the same game, with the same rules anymore. We want change. We want to awaken people, yet we play the game and still vote the way we are told - that makes no sense. Our conscious is now important.


I'm like you. I don't really trust Barr or Baldwin. But I know McCain and Obama will continue this marmongering foreign policy. Both will continue the wars in the middle east. Both will support Homeland Security, illegal immigration, and big Government.

Voting for a 3rd party can't be any worse than what we have now. Problem is, if a third party doesn't change anything, then that's the worst it can get.
Understand? By getting our hopes up for real change and then not getting it when all the effort was put into help those candidates get elected.

[kcroyalscott]

Anyway, here is the link elsewhere: http://airamerica.com/content/thom-and-congressman-ron-paul-impeachment

Was that the entire interview? It didn't sound like they were talking about impeachment to me.. Ha I haven't found it anywhere. Sucks. I'm going to have to sell my soul and get some AirAmerica free trial

[torchbearer]

So conservatives are asexual puritanical libertarians?

Thread winner.