FWD: Urgent, Important Announcement !!!!

[kittyc]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: arthur pollock <arthurpollock@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Subject: Urgent, Important Announcement !!!!
To:


Hello and please read this email if you would be so kind.

As a lot of you may know, I helped Linda Hunnincutt organize the April 15th D.C. Rally.

At the same time we we're planning the April 15th, The people over at what was the Ron Paul March/Revolution March we're planning theirs. We offered to co-partner with them and make both days a massive event, but They in their wisdom decided they didn't need our help and not only didn't they need our help, but then they went on to try to destroy the April 15th Rally by slandering Linda and the Rally over the net, Ron Paul Radio and every where else they could get their trash accepted.

I know this for a fact, I seen the forums and heard the radio shows.

Now, as some of you may know, Linda has another big event planned for Sturgis South Dakota for July 2-6.
Well these people are at it again, as they are spreading stories that the Sturgis event has been canceled and she has already had some key people who have been contacted and told her event was canceled. This is causing a lot of trouble, just as they planned.

It has to stop. Can anybody say infiltrator?

This is exactly why we are going to lose this country, because these groups are infiltrated or because someone has a big ego and has to be in charge or else they don't want to play.

I for one will not be at the Revolution March in D.C., after having been on the phone with some of these people,as well as corresponding with them by email before the April 15th Rally. They let me know, they had no clear objective for their event and the devious undertakings some of these people have engaged in
to try and destroy whatever Linda and others associated with her have tried to accomplish.

I see them as traitors to our country and either they have been infiltrated or have the world biggest ego's. Let me make myself clear, I am not speaking of everyone involved in that event, but the ones that have went out of their way to slander Linda and her events and they know who they are.

Would you please pass this on to your list, as I am trying to do damage control, since they have spread the story that Sturgis was canceled.

It was not canceled and it will go on just as planned and boy have these traitors got some bad news coming their way in the near future when the story breaks, which I'm sure Linda will release during or after Sturgis.

All I can say at this point, is stay tuned to Granny News! You ain't seen nothing yet!

[kittyc]

mis

[LibertyEagle]

Oh puhleese. They gave free air time to Linda for her to promote her March. I know, because I listened to the show.

You know, this kind of smacks of someone trying to cover their butt, if their own March fails. I hope that isn't so.

[Sandra]

I"m afraid it is. They are posting thread after thread of this crap at DP. Apparently GW tried this same trick at the DC Rally in April. There's an eyewitness that was there before she drove up to the April Rally whose refuting her claims that someone was there telling everyone the Rally was cancelled.

[speciallyblend]

I'm going to SD EVENT and bringing folks to................... anyone attacking the SD EVENT is full of BS. Good luck on the march,hopefully there is accountability for those that have spread negative bs around......... there are no asses to cover unless someone here has paid for the event??? until then anyone talking against the sd event or the planners are basically full of SH_T ,until you borrow 20,000 to throw an event and put your own money upfront to put an event on, your talking out your ass, no matter what side of the argument you think your on!!!!

[New York For Paul]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: arthur pollock <arthurpollock@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Subject: Urgent, Important Announcement !!!!
To:


Hello and please read this email if you would be so kind.

As a lot of you may know, I helped Linda Hunnincutt organize the April 15th D.C. Rally.

At the same time we we're planning the April 15th, The people over at what was the Ron Paul March/Revolution March we're planning theirs. We offered to co-partner with them and make both days a massive event, but They in their wisdom decided they didn't need our help and not only didn't they need our help, but then they went on to try to destroy the April 15th Rally by slandering Linda and the Rally over the net, Ron Paul Radio and every where else they could get their trash accepted.

I know this for a fact, I seen the forums and heard the radio shows.

Now, as some of you may know, Linda has another big event planned for Sturgis South Dakota for July 2-6.
Well these people are at it again, as they are spreading stories that the Sturgis event has been canceled and she has already had some key people who have been contacted and told her event was canceled. This is causing a lot of trouble, just as they planned.

It has to stop. Can anybody say infiltrator?

This is exactly why we are going to lose this country, because these groups are infiltrated or because someone has a big ego and has to be in charge or else they don't want to play.

I for one will not be at the Revolution March in D.C., after having been on the phone with some of these people,as well as corresponding with them by email before the April 15th Rally. They let me know, they had no clear objective for their event and the devious undertakings some of these people have engaged in
to try and destroy whatever Linda and others associated with her have tried to accomplish.

I see them as traitors to our country and either they have been infiltrated or have the world biggest ego's. Let me make myself clear, I am not speaking of everyone involved in that event, but the ones that have went out of their way to slander Linda and her events and they know who they are.

Would you please pass this on to your list, as I am trying to do damage control, since they have spread the story that Sturgis was canceled.

It was not canceled and it will go on just as planned and boy have these traitors got some bad news coming their way in the near future when the story breaks, which I'm sure Linda will release during or after Sturgis.

All I can say at this point, is stay tuned to Granny News! You ain't seen nothing yet!

Can you provide evidence? any posts or emails.

[Sandra]

I'm going to SD EVENT and bringing folks to................... anyone attacking the SD EVENT is full of BS. Good luck on the march,hopefully there is accountability for those that have spread negative bs around......... there are no asses to cover unless someone here has paid for the event??? until then anyone talking against the sd event or the planners are basically full of SH_T ,until you borrow 20,000 to throw an event and put your own money upfront to put an event on, your talking out your ass, no matter what side of the argument you think your on!!!!


You aversion to free speech when it's counter to those things that you agree with is unsettling. If I wish to speak out againstthis then shouldn't you ALLOW me?

[speciallyblend]

Oh puhleese. They gave free air time to Linda for her to promote her March. I know, because I listened to the show.

You know, this kind of smacks of someone trying to cover their butt, if their own March fails. I hope that isn't so.

who's butt are they trying to cover, if the event doesn't go as planned . Do you lose any money? is our ass on the line? I suggest anyone that has something to say take your own dam money and go throw an event so we can destroy it and pick it apart. this is getting old. If you didn't pay for the event or are not planning on going ,you really have nothing to say about it!!!

I encourage everyone to go to an event ,that they can afford to go to. I cannot make it to the dc march,but im not all over the web posting the dc march is cancelled either. maybe some people should research the id's being used on certain forums and expose the asses for who they are....

Note this message isn't for Liberty the mod ,just using the quote to make people understand!!!

[Sandra]

Speciallyblend, there are questions on DP as to if and when the speakers are.scheduled. They haven't really answered. It really looks like they are trying to cover speakers not coming by saying "someone" is calling them saying their Rally was cancelled.

Please don't go off on me about it. Go check DP.

Also you're going WAAAYYYYY over the top when you post in their defence.

[speciallyblend]

You aversion to free speech when it's counter to those things that you agree with is unsettling. If I wish to speak out againstthis then shouldn't you ALLOW me?

are you going?
you have all the free speech you want,unless your out there saying the event is cancelled, this doesn't apply to you,so im not sure what your problem is other then i have heard you bitch about nothing!!! on the sd event and talk about nekkid bikers which have nothing to do with this event...

free speech all you want,but don't muddy the waters with incorrect info,still trying to figure out why you even replied to my comment when it doesn't even apply to you,unless you have spread false rumors?? oo yeah nekkid bikers everywhere hmm?
since your so concerned about nudity,why not pass a law demanding baby's be born with clothes before they leave the womb
enjoy your free speech but don't slander something(with no facts to back up your assertions) ,when you have not a dime invested in the event... or did you pay for it??

[Cowlesy]

If anyone were to proclaim on this board that either event was cancelled other than the two people who are in charge of each (Linda with SD event, Deborah with the D.C. event), it would get either deleted or a big red bold disclaimer that it was simply untrue or unsubstantiated.

That being said, we keep getting these reports of "people" trying to "sabotage" this event by saying it is cancelled, yet no one offers up any concrete evidence of it.

That is why board members become suspicious of the claim.

I speak only for myself, but I hope that BOTH events are HUGE successes.

[speciallyblend]

Speciallyblend, there are questions on DP as to if and when the speakers are.scheduled. They haven't really answered. It really looks like they are trying to cover speakers not coming by saying "someone" is calling them saying their Rally was cancelled.

Please don't go off on me about it. Go check DP.

to be honest is dp throwing the event? is DP buying my gas?? no i careless about the DP . I'm going to the event, i care less what dp or you say, so keep speaking to the internet and muddy the waters.. first of all are you even going to the event? thanks for being the watch dog,but i careless,I'm going to the event and im going to see more then just the event,so why are you here? why don't you call linda?? why are you so concerend over an event you have not even paid for ,if a speaker doesnt show , SO F'in WHAT??? it happens at any event,so what is it that you want to know 100% that will make you come, the second coming of christ???

DID THE DP put up 20,000????? DP are bloggers who can be full of BS as well

[speciallyblend]

If anyone were to proclaim on this board that either event was cancelled other than the two people who are in charge of each (Linda with SD event, Deborah with the D.C. event), it would get either deleted or a big red bold disclaimer that it was simply untrue or unsubstantiated.

That being said, we keep getting these reports of "people" trying to "sabotage" this event by saying it is cancelled, yet no one offers up any concrete evidence of it.

That is why board members become suspicious of the claim.

I speak only for myself, but I hope that BOTH events are HUGE successes.

I just don't understand all the attacks ,unless these are the people who paid for the event,it's like someone bitching about the candy bar they do not have or do not want to pay for or even eat,yet they keep proclaiming things,who cares what DP says its a freaking blogger and unless they have a vested monetary investment,they are not helping the cause. I will not even go over there to dp,but sandra seems to take what the dp has written in stone as fact,so whatever she says must be correct ,it came from the dp!!

[speciallyblend]

so what if a speaker doesn't show up, it will not be the end of the world. What is the problem,odds the grannys make there money back are pretty slim,so who cares if a speaker doesnt show or a schedule isn't to your liking, DO NOT GO if that is your concern,so i guess yell at the top of your lungs. I get the feeling your not going sandra so, why is it of your concern, do not go and give it a rest or go egg on the bs daily paul is spreading.... it must concern a dp member who doesnt want to go if a speaker cancels or is delayed of course we can all predict the schedule and times and everything that happens before it happens

[Sandra]

Your using up the entire thread with multiple posts. Your GW is absolutely DEPENDANT upon GETTING PEOPLE TO THE EVENT! Don't you understand that? But her way of doing it SUCKS! She infuriates everyone by her condecending posts and makes enemies from former friends. It's over, on here anyway.

[Bryan]

Let's keep it civil everyone. I personally think both events sound great, each with different objectives and commitments. I wish I could do both.

[Bryan]

It's over, on here anyway.
Clarification?

Thanks. :)

[speciallyblend]

breaking news:(SARCASM) Freedom Festival Cancelled, Russell Means is not an Indian, Do not go.... He was scheduled to speak at thursday but since we can not lock the exact time and schedule down, stay home.... SARCASM, point is why are the dp trying to muddy the waters,especially if they didn't pay for the event? volunteer for the event? or are even coming to the event. I have to wonder the agenda of bloggers more the worry about linda's event....TOO MUCH DRAMA, anyway going to SOUTH DAKOTA and going to enjoy the weather and the views, I LOVE THE MTNS:) see ya in SD!!

good luck on the march and the Marc Scibilia Band FREEDOM TOUR IN COLORADO was the BEST, I give them much love and wish them the biggest show in DC JULY 12th.... Everyone should be going to the Freedom Tour shows and help.....

[Sandra]

Clarification?

Thanks. :)

No friends on this forum after her last rant bashing everyone on here. Also the racist rant the time before. She only gets negative replies except for speciallyblend. Oh heck, go through Granny warrior and kittyc 's past posts and the replies, Bryan.

[LibertyEagle]

who's butt are they trying to cover, if the event doesn't go as planned . Do you lose any money? is our ass on the line? I suggest anyone that has something to say take your own dam money and go throw an event so we can destroy it and pick it apart. this is getting old. If you didn't pay for the event or are not planning on going ,you really have nothing to say about it!!!

I encourage everyone to go to an event ,that they can afford to go to. I cannot make it to the dc march,but im not all over the web posting the dc march is cancelled either. maybe some people should research the id's being used on certain forums and expose the asses for who they are....

Note this message isn't for Liberty the mod ,just using the quote to make people understand!!!

Kenny,

What proof do you have that Revolution Broadcasting is trashing the Granny Warriors' March? Have you personally seen or heard them doing this? :confused:

[Sandra]

Linda sends kittyc and Michelle08 her here to attack us! I don't know if they are related or what her state of mind is to do something so irresponsible. These posters and Granny are not a friendly sort and have been caught not being open with what they are doing. GW claimed in April she had permits to hold this rally at Buffalo Chip Campgrounds July2- . She claimed that all reservations had been made way before the DC March. A few weeks later, she found out that the BCC has invited McC ain to speak and had a problem with other fees so she rented the Lamphere Campground instead, another venue. This requires a new permit. So instead of changing the date of the rally, she still maintained the claim of having a permit for this event (as well as this new venue) for months and months. On her website almost everything has been edited on a daily basis so it makes it hard to keep up with what she's claiming is at this rally. IT COST US MONEY TOO! Does Granny even give a damn about how much it costs to go to this thing? If she makes promises to draw people to an event which is NOT a not for profit deal. Chipins and pay as you go add up fast. Granny requires your time, money and travel. What should be required of Granny?

[pacelli]

Nobody really had a problem with the Granny Warriors when they were out driving around and campaigning for Ron in their Ron Paul mobile. Matter of fact I saw many positive and laudatory comments when youtube's came out of their interviews with the media that covered them.

Life's too short to get bogged down with in-fighting. Who the hell are we up against here? Ourselves? It seems to me that some people have given up fighting the establishment and turned to proving a point, perhaps it is more rewarding in the short term and gives a sense of personal satisfaction.

We need to turn our sights back where they belong. We don't have time to waste on in-fighting. If people are motivated to go to DC, South Dakota, or the North Pole, who cares? Have we turn into socialists, where all 1 million plus Ron Paul voters must do the exact same thing, and contribute the exact same amount, for the benefit of the state? We're talking about liberty here, folks. It's high time we start practicing it.

[liberalnurse]

WOW..So much negativity. And why? 2 events celebrating Liberty and Freedom is a good thing. Doesn't matter which one you go to, as long as you go and have your voice heard. This isn't a competition. I need to add, that I hadn't heard that the SD event was cancelled. The only thing I read negatively on the DP was posted by GW regarding the DC march, which I responded to in a post. She bascially said DC was a waste of time since Ron Paul dropped out, how hot it will be with all the tall buildings ect. It seems to me her posts, past and present, are very antagonistic and angry. Not a good thing.

[kittyc]

Linda sends kittyc and Michelle08 her here to attack us! I don't know if they are related or what her state of mind is to do something so irresponsible. These posters and Granny are not a friendly sort and have been caught not being open with what they are doing. GW claimed in April she had permits to hold this rally at Buffalo Chip Campgrounds July2- . She claimed that all reservations had been made way before the DC March. A few weeks later, she found out that the BCC has invited McC ain to speak and had a problem with other fees so she rented the Lamphere Campground instead, another venue. This requires a new permit. So instead of changing the date of the rally, she still maintained the claim of having a permit for this event (as well as this new venue) for months and months. On her website almost everything has been edited on a daily basis so it makes it hard to keep up with what she's claiming is at this rally. IT COST US MONEY TOO! Does Granny even give a damn about how much it costs to go to this thing? If she makes promises to draw people to an event which is NOT a not for profit deal. Chipins and pay as you go add up fast. Granny requires your time, money and travel. What should be required of Granny?

Not being open?? You do not need "permit" to rent a Campground. You sign a contract and pay the rental fee. Any idiot knows that! Where'd the BBC come from?? We did not want to be affiliated with John McCain in anyway, even though he isn't going to be at the Chip until August. Sandra, as we corrected you on the DP, We signed a contract with the Chip. The owner asked for more money, which wasn't in the contract. Granny requested that he give the money back - he did so and we rented Lamphere Campgrounds.

Granny doesn't care what it costs? The hell she doesn't! She took out a $20,000.00 loan for this. travel expenses, staging, campground rental, food, PA system and musical equipment. The gate charge is $5.00 per person at the campgrounds. tent camping is FREE. The Cabins are sold out. Dinner and breakfast cost $5.00 per plate...We ask people to find their own transport. We suggest going by car or bus as it's cheaper. When we planned this, we thought of the cost for people.

Granny does not edit her website on a "daily basis"! The same n/l is up on Granny's site that's been there since we started the festival. She did add the Granny Wagon last week though. Have a look: www.grannywarriors.com. Michelle has been added the fact that the festival has not been cancelled "despite rumors" on www.revolution4freedom.com.

Granny doesn't send anyone to do her "bidding". Nor did I attack anyone. If you have questions for Art, why not send him an e-mail? His e-mail address is listed. (I'm refering to his FWD e-mail which I posted here. Which was the topic of the thread). Oh!I forgot you don't do anything but post here and on the DP. You scream for someone else to do your bidding. I am tired of dealing with your distortions and immature behavior.

[Susan Wolfe]

As a side note - I paid for the Revolution campgrounds in DC, upfront, with money out of MY OWN POCKET. NPS sent me two PERMITS to use the campgrounds the weekend of the march.

Now let's end this please. I am so tired of this. The only reason anyone from the march is attacking anyone with the Grannies is because we are being accused of trying to sabotage an event that we have not just supported, but actively promoted. In fact, people from the Grannies have been on Revolution Broadcasting, promoting the event. Revolution Broadcasting is the radio show that promotes the march in DC.

I googled "canceled" and "Sturgis" and also "canceled" and "Grannies", and the ONLY two items that came up were the post by Arthur Pollock, and the forwarded message by Arthur Pollock. NOTHING else.

It is suspicious - but what is even more suspicious is that they would automatically assume it was someone from Revolution march when there are MANY trolls out there, trying to ruin what we have all started.

Please enjoy whatever event or events you choose to attend this summer. And, let's leave it at that.

[Bossobass]

Nobody really had a problem with the Granny Warriors when they were out driving around and campaigning for Ron in their Ron Paul mobile. Matter of fact I saw many positive and laudatory comments when youtube's came out of their interviews with the media that covered them.

Life's too short to get bogged down with in-fighting. Who the hell are we up against here? Ourselves? It seems to me that some people have given up fighting the establishment and turned to proving a point, perhaps it is more rewarding in the short term and gives a sense of personal satisfaction.

We need to turn our sights back where they belong. We don't have time to waste on in-fighting. If people are motivated to go to DC, South Dakota, or the North Pole, who cares? Have we turn into socialists, where all 1 million plus Ron Paul voters must do the exact same thing, and contribute the exact same amount, for the benefit of the state? We're talking about liberty here, folks. It's high time we start practicing it.

I agree with this post.

Linda is a friend of mine. I met her in May '07 at the second debate in SC. She was there early, she was set up and she worked for RP in every way. Her motor home was impossible to miss and she parked it right across the street from the venue while the merchants of death poured in.

You remember them? The ones who wildly applauded Giuliani's attack on RP on national TV? The ones who paid Sean Hannity to follow up on the attack? The ones we should be fighting, tooth and nail.

Not each other.

I saw and worked with Linda at many venues afterward, all over the country, in all sorts of weather. She's a street warrior. The kind of person I like to be shoulder to shoulder with when the nazi's are trying to herd us into a 'free speech zone'.

Support the effort or find something else constructive to do. You'll get no sympathy from me for attacking Linda. She's earned her place. It makes no sense to try to take that away from her.

She doesn't have a top notch spin consultant to carefully word everything she believes for the masses. That's one of the things I like about her. But, if it bothers anyone, start a chip in to hire one.

Bosso

[Sandra]

I agree with this post.

Linda is a friend of mine. I met her in May '07 at the second debate in SC. She was there early, she was set up and she worked for RP in every way. Her motor home was impossible to miss and she parked it right across the street from the venue while the merchants of death poured in.

You remember them? The ones who wildly applauded Giuliani's attack on RP on national TV? The ones who paid Sean Hannity to follow up on the attack? The ones we should be fighting, tooth and nail.

Not each other.

I saw and worked with Linda at many venues afterward, all over the country, in all sorts of weather. She's a street warrior. The kind of person I like to be shoulder to shoulder with when the nazi's are trying to herd us into a 'free speech zone'.

Support the effort or find something else constructive to do. You'll get no sympathy from me for attacking Linda. She's earned her place. It makes no sense to try to take that away from her.

She doesn't have a top notch spin consultant to carefully word everything she believes for the masses. That's one of the things I like about her. But, if it bothers anyone, start a chip in to hire one.

Bosso

Maybe she should start by simply stopping biting the hands that feed her. :rolleyes: A LOT of people have worked just as hard as Linda and don't deserve the treatment she gives them. All because we don't publicize everything we do doesn't mean we do nothing. God bless the boots on the ground that don't shout from the mountaintop.

[LibertyEagle]

I would like to see the proof of what Linda is claiming. That is a very serious charge and I do not take it lightly.

[Sandra]

What gets me is she goes more and more over the top with these incredible claims. I mean shot credibility is just that. I believe she should be held to the stone for these claims of sabotage. Look what Linda made the DC March jump through for proof of permits. Even after that she acted as judge, jury, then executioner by posting that the DC March was cancelled. Doing this erased a lot of good she had done for the cause. She was being an outright jerk.... and remains unapologetic and self rightous.

[SnappleLlama]

*heats popcorn*

[Sandra]

*heats popcorn*


No, no! Microwave some marshmallows for about 50 seconds. Yum!

[angelatc]

WOW..So much negativity. And why? 2 events celebrating Liberty and Freedom is a good thing.

No, not when they're so close together and not when people can't freely travel to and fro across the country. While it would be fun to be a member of the Ron Paul Deadheads. most of us work these days.

4 rallies with in six months only means that attendence will be diluted.

Fiat rallies.

[revolutionman]

Sounds like the kinda dirty tricks the FBI pulled during the civil rights movement. Don't let petty nonsense come between us. people are going to be bought out or coerced, some will be plants sent to derail our movement by gumming up the works at every opportunity.

We have to recognise it for what it is and never allow it to cause fissures in our movement. Remember why you are here, remember what attracted you to Ron Paul in the first place. Straight talk and an unwillingness to stoop to the level of the average politician.

Just get out there, speak your peace, and leave the accusations, name calling and other assorted varieties of mudslinging to the creatons in DC.

Some people will think i'm some kinda ahole conspiracy theory nut, or a paranoid freak for thinking this, but study up on how the FBI and the Civil Rights movement, and you'll see that its not only possible, but likely that we're being infiltrated by federal agents doing two things. making sure we are not becoming violent extremists, and trying to protect their bosses in the status quo.

[Cowlesy]

Any updates from the rally???

[speciallyblend]

well im going to the rally tomorrow,leaving at 500am . I will be entertaining thru out the weekend..... as for all the diluted naysayers. I can tell you that if i wasn't going to the sd event. I still wouldn't be able to go to the july 12th event, im so tired of everyone battling over events, there are enough americans to pack them all..... I expect good times and i will start a thread with some info and postings one i get there,to try to keep people informed of the action
i could just activate my webcam as well ,ill see what i can do with stickam, if anyone has a live feed suggestion let me know i have a new computer here and it has good stuff on it;)

what can we call the thread????

[DirtMcGirt]

Sd was such a bad idea in the first place, just to have a significant amount of RP supporters in SD this time of year not easy... I commend them for the effort but logistically it made no sense...

[Danke]

well im going to the rally tomorrow,leaving at 500am . I will be entertaining thru out the weekend..... as for all the diluted naysayers. I can tell you that if i wasn't going to the sd event. I still wouldn't be able to go to the july 12th event, im so tired of everyone battling over events, there are enough americans to pack them all..... I expect good times and i will start a thread with some info and postings one i get there,to try to keep people informed of the action
i could just activate my webcam as well ,ill see what i can do with stickam, if anyone has a live feed suggestion let me know i have a new computer here and it has good stuff on it;)

what can we call the thread????

How about: http://www.justin.tv/

Make sure you have a quality mic.