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06-28-2008, 09:33 PM
They seem to think he was some saint. It ticks me off. Can someone list the bad about clinton and expose this "he got rid of the deficit" BS they always spew? I heard Ron Paul talk about the deficit bs but forgot what he said. Thanks.

06-28-2008, 09:58 PM
He left us with a budget surplus, but AFAIK the national debt remained pretty much the same.

06-28-2008, 10:08 PM
Clinton was president during my younger years. Even then I thought he seemed like a jackass.Sucks, so far I have had only the Clinton's and Bush's in the White-House:mad:

06-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Read Texas Straight Talk article from 02/20/97: Trust funds are being robbed, hundreds of billions at stake (http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=1).

And then The Truth About Government Debt (http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=243):

Raising the debt ceiling is nothing new. We last raised it during the Clinton era, despite that administration's claims that the budget was balanced each year. This can be refuted quite simply, because the national debt continued to rise throughout the 1990s. Obviously, if federal spending truly was being outpaced by revenues, the debt would not have increased. So how did the Clinton administration make it appear that annual spending did not exceed annual revenues? Mostly by using Social Security revenues to cover the difference, even though Social Security taxes are supposed to be held in a trust fund and not spent on other federal programs. Yet few Americans know that their Social Security taxes are never segregated or saved by the federal government, but rather spent immediately as general funds. Your Social Security benefits are nothing more than IOUs that are completely dependent on future revenues.

...which is one of the reasons why Social Security is screwed.

06-28-2008, 10:53 PM
During Clinton's reign, the Fed really began to tamper with the interest rates... giving artificially low rates causing malinvestment. This is when they really started to print the dollars and the value started to drop. He actually began what we are dealing with now. That's what caused the "surplus" and they've (Bush team) have been hiding it up until Jan '09. After the election is when they are going to raise the interest rates and tighten up the money supply.

Things are really going to be tough after the 1st of the year and it started under Clinton. Bush just accelerated it with the wars.

Also remember, Bosnia started under Clinton. We're still involved there with troops deployed to the Balkins even now.

06-28-2008, 11:05 PM
He didn't really get rid of the deficit. He looted Social Security to pay for things and now everyone is screwed when they retire because nothing is left.

NAFTA was horrible as well.

06-28-2008, 11:23 PM
perjury, sex scandals, sexual harrasment, rapes, trails of mysterious murders, kosovo, bosnia,

the best website to go to is: "The Clinton Scandals"; http://www.prorev.com/wwindex.htm

All from Wiki:

Clinton signed H.R. 4655 into law on October 31, 1998, which instituted a policy of "regime change" against Iraq, though it explicitly stated it did not speak to the use of American military forces.[59][60] The administration then launched a four-day bombing campaign named Operation Desert Fox, lasting from December 16 to December 19, 1998.

To stop the ethnic cleansing and genocide[61][62] of Albanians by nationalist Serbians in the former Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Clinton authorized the use of American troops in a NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia in 1999, named Operation Allied Force. General Wesley Clark was Supreme Allied Commander of NATO and oversaw the mission. With United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, the bombing campaign ended on June 10, 1999. The resolution placed Kosovo under UN administration and authorized a peacekeeping force.[63] NATO claimed to have suffered zero combat deaths,[64] and two deaths from an Apache helicopter crash.[65] Opinions in the popular press criticized pre-war genocide claims by the Clinton administration as greatly exaggerated.[66][67] A U.N. Court ruled genocide did not take place, but recognized, "a systematic campaign of terror, including murders, rapes, arsons and severe maltreatments".[68] The term "ethnic cleansing" was used as an alternative to "genocide" to denote not just ethnically motivated murder but also displacement, though critics charge there is no difference.[69] Slobodan Milošević, the President of Yugoslavia at the time, was eventually charged with the "murders of about 600 individually identified ethnic Albanians" and "crimes against humanity."[70]

Sexual misconduct allegations

For alleged misconduct during his governorship Paula Jones brought a sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton while he was president. During the depositions for this lawsuit, Clinton denied having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky — a denial that became the basis for the impeachment charge of perjury. In the aftermath of the impeachment, and without agreeing to Jones' allegation or offering an apology, Clinton settled a lawsuit by Jones.

In 1998, Kathleen Willey alleged Clinton sexually assaulted her four years previously. In 1998, Juanita Broaddrick alleged she was raped by Clinton some twenty years previously. The claims by Willey and Broaddrick were never brought before a court. The independent counsel determined Willey gave "false information" to the FBI and inconsistent sworn testimony related to the Jones allegation. Broaddrick's only sworn testimony about Clinton was a previous denial of any harassment by Clinton.[98] Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue and Dolly Kyle Browning – claimed to have had adulterous sexual relations with Clinton during or before his service as governor.

Whitewater controversy

Main articles: Whitewater (controversy) and Troopergate

Law license suspension

In a separate case, Clinton was ordered to pay $25,000 in fines to Arkansas state's bar officials and his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years. [74] The agreement came on the condition that Whitewater prosecutors would not pursue federal perjury charges against him.[75] Clinton was suspended by the Supreme Court in October 2001, and, facing disbarment from that court, Clinton resigned from the Supreme Court bar in November.[76]

Pardons and campaign finance

Main articles: Bill Clinton pardons controversy and 1996 United States campaign finance controversy

Clinton issued 141 pardons and 36 commutations on his last day in office on January 20, 2001.[24][77] Most of the controversy surrounded Marc Rich and allegations that Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, accepted payments in return for influencing the president's decision-making regarding the pardons.[78] Some of Clinton's pardons remain a point of controversy.[79]

The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy was an alleged effort by the People's Republic of China (PRC) to influence the domestic policies of the United States, prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fundraising practices of the administration itself.[80]

Death penalty

Further information: Capital punishment in Arkansas and Capital punishment by the United States federal government

The application of the federal death penalty was expanded to include crimes not resulting in death, such as running a large-scale drug enterprise by Clinton’s 1994 Omnibus Crime Bill. During Clinton's re-election campaign he said, "My 1994 crime bill expanded the death penalty for drug kingpins, murderers of federal law enforcement officers, and nearly 60 additional categories of violent felons."[48]

While campaigning for U.S. President, then-Governor Clinton returned to Arkansas to see that Ricky Ray Rector would be executed. After killing a police officer and a civilian, Rector shot himself in the head, leading to what his lawyers said was a state where he could still talk but didn't understand the concept of death. According to Arkansas state and Federal law, a seriously mentally impaired inmate cannot be executed. The courts disagreed with the claim of grave mental impairment and allowed the execution. Clinton's return to Arkansas for the execution was framed in a New York Times article as a possible political move to counter "soft on crime" accusations.[49][50]

According to some sources Clinton during his earlier years was a death penalty opponent, who switched positions.[50] During Clinton's Governorship Arkansas preformed first executions since 1964 (death penalty was re-enacted on March 23, 1973[51] Totally he oversaw four executions (one by electric chair and three by lethal injection). However, Clinton was the first president to pardon a death row inmate since the federal death penalty was reintroduced in 1988.[52] Federal executions were resumed under his successor George W. Bush.

Travelgate controversy

Main articles: White House travel office controversy and White House FBI files controversy

When several longtime employees of the White House Travel Office were fired, the White House travel office controversy began on May 19, 1993. A whistleblower's letter, written during the previous administration, triggered an FBI investigation, which revealed evidence of financial malfeasance. Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr investigated the firings and found no evidence of wrongdoing on the Clintons' part.[46]

The White House FBI files controversy of June 1996 arose around improper access to FBI security-clearance documents. Craig Livingstone, head of the White House Office of Personnel Security, improperly requested, and received from the FBI, background report files without asking permission of the subject individuals; many of these were employees of former Republican administrations. In March 2000, Independent Counsel Robert Ray determined that there was no credible evidence of any criminal activity. Ray's report further stated "there was no substantial and credible evidence that any senior White House official was involved" in seeking the files.[47]

need more?

06-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Clinton had a wiretapping program and tried to introduce many wiretapping bills to the congress for "the war on terror" that the republicans stopped. (how the tables have turned)

He looted social security to create his surplus

Also, google the Clinton death list
SOOO MANY people associated with him are dead or in prison under mysterious circumstances.

06-28-2008, 11:53 PM
i just found this too.... this is amazing... i really didn't realize there were so many of these.... also a hillary clinton body guard was killed recently in a motorcade... he was hit by a bus


(sorry so long)

The Progressive Review

Sudden Death Syndrome

A number of persons associated with WJ Clinton or Arkansas politics have died of unnatural causes or suddenly under circumstances that have raised questions. While lists compiled by some run as high as 61 deaths, the following is limited to those deaths with clear anomalies that, based on the information available to TPR, require further investigation.

A few important points: (1) The fact that anomalies need to be investigated carries no presumption of how a death occurred, only that there remain serious questions that require answers. (2) The possibility of foul play must be taken seriously in a major criminal conspiracy in which over two score individuals and firms have already been convicted and over 100 witnesses have pled the Fifth Amendment or fled the country. (3) If foul play did occur in any of these cases, that fact by itself does not carry the presumption that the White House was involved. Given the footprints of organized crime, the drug trade, foreign espionage, and intelligence agencies along the trail of this story, such a assumption would not be warranted.


Vincent Foster SUICIDE

Scores of anomalies remain despite two investigations. White House engaged in major obstruction of investigation including refusing to allow police officers to search office. Some experts consider Foster's suicide note to be a forgery. 7/21/93

Kathy Ferguson SUICIDE

Gunshot to head. Death came five days after her ex-husband, Danny Ferguson, was named a co-defendant in the Paula Jones law suit. Left suicide note but body was found in her living room next to her packed bags as though she was planning to take a trip. Bullet hole behind the left ear, execution style, although she was right handed and found with the gun in her right hand. 5/11/93

Bill Shelton SUICIDE

Arkansas state trooper. Kathy Ferguson's fiancée. Gunshot to behind ear at Ferguson's gravesite. Left note saying "I can't stand it any more." Local police chief says, "It puts big questions in your mind. Why?" 6/12/93


Plane crash. Despite serious questions raised by examining pathologist, no autopsy. Other anomalies at site of crash. Was on the verge of being indicted. 4/3/96


Heart attack. Serious health problems; died while in solitary. On 12 medications. Unusual Prozac level found during autopsy. Questions about other drugs given, including Lasix, which is contraindicated for heart patients. Despite being key witness against Clinton, had been treated at a welfare hospital. 3/8/98

Barbara Wise UNKNOWN Commerce Department (International Trade Administration) secretary and associate of John Huang found bruised and partially nude in a locked office at Commerce. Cause of death unknown. 11/29/96

Jerry Luther Parks MURDER

Clinton security aide in Arkansas, known to have been keeping dossier on Clinton, gunned down in his car outside of Little Rock. Parks was shot through the rear window of his car and shot three more times, thru the side window, with a 9mm pistol. Parks ran American Contract Services, the business which supplied bodyguards for Clinton during his presidential campaign and the following transition. Bill Clinton still owed him $81,000. Parks had collected detailed data on Clinton's sexual escapades, including pictures and dates. Wife claims federal agents subsequently removed files and computer. She also says that upon learning of Vincent Foster's death, he told her, "I'm a dead man." Two months later he was. Wife also says he made large transfers of cash to Vince Foster. In 2005, however, a woman claiming to be Parks' daughter will post on the Internet the claim that the murder was done at the behest of a member of the family. 9/26/93

Mary Caitrin Mahoney MURDER

Former White House intern shot five times during the murder of three Starbucks employees in an execution-style slaying. No money was taken. Informant assisting police in case was murdered when sent by DC police into a botched drug sting. The handling of the 1997 Starbucks murder case continues to raise questions. Why, of all the 301 slayings that took place in DC that same year, did only these three killings attract the attention not only of the FBI but of Attorney General Reno herself? Reno overruled her own US Attorney and called for the death penalty in the case. Reno had intervened in only one other local case -- a gang leader accused of 14 deaths. Carl Derek Cooper pleaded guilty to the crimes in April 2000 after being threatened with the death penalty by Reno. 7/6/97

Steve Willis
Robert Wiliams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan GUN SHOTS

These four former ATF agents -- killed during the Waco Massacre -- had served as bodyguards to Bill Clinton. Questions have been raised as to the nature and source of their wounds. 2/28/93

Johnny Lawhon ONE-CAR CRASH Automobile mechanic who found $27,000 check made out to Clinton in car left at his shop. Single-car crash at 1 am after leaving gas station at high rate of speed. 3/26/98

Brian D. Haney
William S. Barkley Jr.
Tim Sabel
Scott J. Reynolds AIR CRASH

Clinton bodyguards. Helicopter crash in woods near Quantico VA. Reporters barred from site, but fire department chief reported security tight with "lots of Marines with guns." Videotape made by firefighter seized by Marines. 5/19/93

Ron Miller UNKNOWN

Was under investigation for financial irregularities, Miller had turned over evidence of campaign finance wrongdoing to congressional investigators. Miller, suddenly took ill and died 9 days later. The death was strange enough that doctors referred it to the Oklahoma medical examiner which has refused to release the results of its tests. 10/12/97

William Colby DROWNING

Colby's death, allegedly while canoeing, raises a number of questions. For example, the retired CIA head had left his home unlocked, his computer on, and a partly eaten dinner on the table. Colby had recently become an editor of Strategic Investment which was doing investigative reporting on the Vince Foster death. 4/96

Gandy Baugh SUICIDE Attorney who had represented Clinton buddy and drug distributor Dan Lasater allegedly jumped to his death. Baugh's law partner commited suicide one month later. 2/9/94

Dr. Ronald Rogers PLANE CRASH

Plane crashed while this Arkansas dentist was on his way to an interview with a London Telegraph reporter covering the Clinton scandals. Plane went down far off its planned route after generator overheated.

Son of the man Vince Foster's widow married was killed in a single car crash against a brick wall. Reports that he had been talking to reporters. There were other reports that Neil Moody had discovered something unsettling among his stepmother's private papers and was threatening to go public with it just prior to the beginning of the Democratic National Convention. Witnesses said they saw Neil sitting in his car arguing with another person and suddenly speeding off out of control and hitting a brick wall.8/25/96

Paula Grober ONE-CAR CRASH

Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf was killed in a high-speed, no witness, one-car crash. Had traveled extensively with Clinton since 1978 12/9/92

Admiral Jerermy Boorda SUICIDE

Boorda allegedly killed himself after going home for lunch. Explanations for suicide include his wearing an improper medal and stresses over Navy downsizing. Explanations for Boorda's suicide focused on a claim that he was embarrassed over two "V for Valor" pins he was not authorized to wear. When it turned out that Boorda was entitled to those decorations, blame shifted to stresses over down sizing of the Navy and the adverse affect that feminism was having on the Navy's morale.

Charles Meisner PLANE CRASH

Assistant Commerce Secretrary responsible for giving John Huang a department contract with security clearances.


Vice chair of Arkla with ties to Clinton and Mack McLarty. Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm. 12/21/92

Paul Wilcher UNKNOWN

Washington attorney found dead on a toilet in apartment. Said to be investigating various scandals including the October Surprise, the 1980 election campaign, drug and gun-running through Mena and the Waco assault. Was planning a TV documentary on his findings. Delivered extensive affidavit to Janet Reno three weeks before his death. 6/22/93

Kevin Ives & Don Henry Crushed skull & stabbing before being placed on railroad tracks

Two boys were killed in Saline County and left on a railroad track to be run over by a train There is an initial report of joint suicide and then State Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak ruled the deaths "accidental," saying the boys had smoked too much marijuana and fallen asleep on the tracks. A second autopsy and grand jury probe, finding evidence of a knife wound and was punctured by dogged investigators whose efforts are repeatedly blocked by law enforcement officials. Although no one will ever be charged, the trail led into the penumbra of the Dixie Mafia and the Arkansas political machine. Some believe the boys died because they accidentally intercepted a drug drop, but othe information suggests the drop may have dispensed not drugs but cash, gold and platinum -- part of a series of sorties through which those working with US intelligence were being reimbursed. According to one version, the boys were blamed in order to cover up the theft of the drop by persons within the Dixie Mafia and Arkansas political machine. 8/23/87

Keith Coney - Vanished, believed murdered
Keith McKaskle - Decapitated
Greg Collins - Shot to death in front seat of his pick-up
Jeff Rhodes - Shotgun blast
Richard Winters - Motorcycle accident
Jordan Kettleson - Stabbing
James Milam - Shotgun blast to face
Boonie Bearden - Gunshot, body burned, some mutiliation including hands and feet partially sawed off
Mike Samples - Shotgun blast

Nine persons reportedly had information on the Ives-Henry murders. McKaskle had expressed fear for his life of the "railroad track thing." Told his parents good-bye. Inmate reported being offered $4,000 to kill McKaskle. Collins death was ruled a suicide. Earlier he had failed to answer a subpoena before the Ives-Henry grand jury. Winters was a suspect in the murders. He was killed in what was initially thought to have been a robbery turned out to have been a set-up. Bearden was apparently murdered under mysterious circumstances March 1989.According to Micah Morrison in the Wall Street Journal, "he was a friend of both Greg Collins and Keith Coney. He 'vanished' without a trace. It was rumored he knew exactly what had happened at the tracks. An anonymous caller said he knew where he had been murdered. The police found a piece of a shirt, nothing more." Milam was found decapitated; nonetheless, the state medical examiner, Fahmy Malak - notorious for his curious rulings -- declared the death to be of natural causes. Mike Samples, murdered June 1995, was another grand jury witness in the train deaths. Wrote Morrison in the WSJ: "He was reported as knowing a great deal about the deaths of Ives and Henry. Sources say he had been involved with picking up drugs that were dropped out of planes at the Mena drop sites. He was shot to death in the head and was not found for some time."

Robert Bates Drank himself to death with mouthwash

Mena Airport mechanic and a prospective witness in the Terry Reed case, allegedly drank himself to death on mouthwash.

Herby Branscum Car accident

Arkansas bankers Herby Branscum and Robert Hill were tried on charges in connection with Clinton's 1990 gubernatorial campaign. They were acquitted on some, but a mistrial was declared on others. Branscum subsequently killed in a suspicious auto accident.
Eric Butera Murdered during drug sting An informant in the murder of White House intern Mary Mahoney. Assigned by DC police to make an undercover drug buy and was beaten to death.

Mohamed Samir Ferrat Airplane crash

The Guardian of London, May 27, 1998: "Police are investigating the possibility that insurance fraud by a Swiss resident listed among the 230 people killed in the TWA Flight 800 explosion might have been behind the disaster, Swiss television reported last night. Swiss authorities have been investigating Algerian-born Mohammed Samir Ferrat, for 18 months, the report said. . . A Geneva lawyer, Gerald Page, alleged in an interview for the Swiss television report that Ferrat took out life insurance policies worth several million Swiss francs in the weeks before the plane crashed in July 1996, half an hour after taking off from New York . . . On August 19, a month after the crash, the local medical examiner in Suffolk County - in whose jurisdiction the disaster occurred - declared that Mohammed Ferrat had been positively identified as a dead passenger from TWA Flight 800. US investigators counted him out as a suspect early. . . The report showed footage of the late US commerce secretary, Ron Brown, at the Washington signing with Ferrat of a pounds 62.5 million contract between Sofin and the US construction firm Chatwick Inc, which was to build residences in the Ivory Coast." According to a CNN international report, Mohamed Samir Ferrat, an Algerian business associate of Secretary Brown, who was scheduled to accompany Brown on the Bosnian trip but withdrew at the last moment for reasons still unclear, died July 17, on the ill fated TWA Flight 800.
Carlos Ghigliotti Suicide

Ghigliotti: 42, was found dead in his office just outside of Washington D.C. on April 28, 2000. Ghigliotti, a thermal imaging analyst hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tape of the Waco siege, had said he determined the FBI fired shots during the incident. The FBI explained the light bursts on infrared footage as reflections of sun rays on shards of glass or other debris that littered the scene. "I conclude this based on the ground view videotapes taken from several different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape," Ghigliotti told The Washington Post Ghigliotti said the tapes also confirm the Davidians fired repeatedly at FBI agents during the assault, which ended when flames raced through the compound.

Niko Jerkuic Suicide

Chief Niko Jerkuic, technician in charge of the radio beacons used during the fatal Ron Brown flight committed suicide May 6, 1996. Christopher Ruddy and Hugh Sprunt wrote, "Brown's plane was probably relying on Croatian ground beacons for navigation. In the minutes before Brown's plane crashed, five other planes landed at Dubrovnik without difficulty, and none experienced problems with the beacons. But additional questions about the beacons and the crash will remain unanswered because, as the Air Force acknowledges, airport maintenance chief Niko Junic died by gunshot just three days after the crash and before he could be interviewed by investigators. Within a day of his death, officials determined the death was a suicide."

Shelly Kelly Air crash

Shelly Kelly was the flight attendent on Ron Brown's ill fated flight (April 3, 1996) James Nugent of the Wall Street Underground wrote, "Four hours and 20 minutes after the crash, the first Croatian Special Forces search party arrives on the scene and finds only Ms. Kelly surviving. They call for a helicopter to evacuate her to the hospital. When it arrives, she is able to get aboard without assistance from the medics. But Kelly never completes the short hop. She dies enroute. According to multiple reports given to journalist/editor Joe L. Jordan, an autopsy later reveals a neat three-inch incision over her main femoral artery. It also shows that the incision came at least three hours after her other cuts and bruises."

Charles Wilbourne Miller Suicide

Charles Wilbourne Miller, 63, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head on November 17, 1998 in a shallow pit about 300 yards from his ranch house near Little Rock. Police found a .410 gauge shotgun near Miller's body and a Ruger .357-caliber revolver submerged in water. Investigators concluded the Ruger was the weapon used by Miller to kill himself. Yet, two rounds in the handgun's cylinder had been spent. He had long served as executive vice president and member of the board of directors for a company called Alltel and was deeply involved in his own software engineering company until the day he died. Alltel is the successor to Jackson Stephens' Systematics, the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system and that was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax and email transmission in America.

Dan Short Kidnapping and murder
Short was a bank president, abducted from his home in Benton Co., Arkansas, in 1989 and allegedly forced to open the State Bank in Noel, MO were $71,000 was allegedly taken. Three days before his abduction, he had told friends that he had been laundering drug money and was in trouble.

06-29-2008, 12:19 AM


06-29-2008, 12:45 AM
I'm not sure if there was ever a full investigation, but here's an excerpt from High crimes and misdemeanors (http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=62):

Far more pressing than the results of DNA tests on a cocktail dress are investigations into whether this president allowed highly-classified missile technology to be transferred to the communist Chinese government in exchange for campaign donations. The allegations and accompanying evidence are compelling, if not yet complete, to indicate that this has indeed been the case. Let us be clear about this: the government of China is not our ally, and in fact has nuclear missiles aimed at our cities. While we are "at peace," we should be mindful that China is a foreign government with a system diametrically opposed to our own.

If this president not only broke the law by accepting donations from a potentially hostile foreign government, but proceeded to trade our nation's military secrets as a "quid pro quo," then this president must be impeached.

See also China is only winner in scandals (http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=99).

And speaking of unintended consequences, read how Gorelick's Memo Impeded Probe of Clinton's China Scandal (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/4/26/153933.shtml). Then understand how Memos show Gorelick involvement in 'wall' (http://www.washtimes.com/news/2004/apr/29/20040429-122228-6538r/) resulted in "hampering communications between U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies fighting terrorism".

H Roark
06-29-2008, 02:53 AM
The Clinton administration supported Indonesian dictator Suharto in his genocide in East Timor. A now independent country which never got as much media coverage it deserved at the time.

06-29-2008, 09:11 AM
Clinton started bombing Iraq at the same time the house was to vote on his impeachment.

06-29-2008, 09:53 AM
Chinagate. 'Nuff said.

Buffalo Bruce
06-29-2008, 11:30 PM
"I will say this, however. I was, frankly, surprised would be a mild word, to say that anyone that would suggest that the Attorney General should resign because some religious fanatics murdered themselves. " -Bill Clinton, April 20, 1993; remarks on WACO

Bill Clinton went on to bomb Serbia for 78 days. Serbia had done nothing to the US.

Jamsie 567
06-30-2008, 12:08 AM
Bill Clinton started the Iraq war in 2002 with the Iraq liberation act. This is the only ammuntion you need to beat down clinton supporters.

06-30-2008, 01:28 AM
Hmmm he is the one that opened all these free trade deals with other countries. Tell the idiots that and ask them where there jobs went. Bill is a scum bag just like every other person in washington.