What would everyone think about the Campaign for Liberty reaching out to Mary Ruwart?

[kipload]

What would everyone think about the Campaign for Liberty reaching out to Mary Ruwart? I'd like to see it.

I started reading up on her after watching the Libertarian convention. She should be the VP candidate. That ticket would have taken off. She bridges the gap between (R/L) libertarians, and she would appeal, in huge numbers, to young women?

I'd really like to see CfL get her out on the front-lines. Either as an employed speaker, video commentator, or even back her as a candidate of some kind.

She understand the concepts of freedom, and from what I saw of her at that convention, she's dedicated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfyi86nn0eM

[hypnagogue]

Mary Ruwart has some baggage in the form of a few indefensible statements. At least, that's what I've heard. I'd suggest doing a thorough review of her positions and statements before associating her with the CFL.

[Tarzan]

Keeping my response to this single question (and not the current setup and leadership of CFL)... NO.

CFL needs to separate itself from other groups. CFL has far too many Libertarians ties as it stands right now. Getting linked even further to the other groups is a really bad idea.

[mport1]

Yes, absolutely. Mary would be a great addition.

[constituent]

Keeping my response to this single question (and not the current setup and leadership of CFL)... NO.

CFL needs to separate itself from other groups. CFL has far too many Libertarians ties as it stands right now. Getting linked even further to the other groups is a really bad idea.


Yes, absolutely. Mary would be a great addition.

i agree w/ both of you, how 'bout that.

[MGreen]

Mary Ruwart has some baggage in the form of a few indefensible statements. At least, that's what I've heard. I'd suggest doing a thorough review of her positions and statements before associating her with the CFL.
Perhaps you should review her positions and statements as well before discounting her and telling others that she's made indefensible statements.

[Truth Warrior]

From what I know about Mary ( read her book ), I like the idea. ;)

[Kludge]

Mary was very involved in Dr. Paul's campaign. I'd imagine she's already involved with CFL.

[hypnagogue]

Perhaps you should review her positions and statements as well before discounting her and telling others that she's made indefensible statements. :rolleyes: Perhaps you'll note my comment suggested that we perform such a review before making a decision. You may also choose to note that my comment relayed only the fact that I had seen quotes ascribed to her, which would be totally indefensible.

May I suggest in the future that you accept caution in the way it is offered, rather than to construe it into some sort of condemnation.

[constituent]

:rolleyes: Perhaps you'll note my comment suggested that we perform such a review before making a decision. You may also choose to note that my comment relayed only the fact that I had seen quotes ascribed to her, which would be totally indefensible.

May I suggest in the future that you accept caution in the way it is offered, rather than to construe it into some sort of condemnation.

could you point me in the direction of the statements to which you refer?

[hypnagogue]

From her book -


Children who willingly participate in sexual acts have the right to make that decision as well, even if it's distasteful to us personally. Some children will make poor choices just as some adults do in smoking and drinking to excess. When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will. Forgive me if I can't recall the couple other wacky quotes, but this was the one which sunk her battleship, if you ask me.

I see no need to explain the quote. I'll let you make your own conclusions.

[haigh]

The CFL needs to rise above the petty differences between Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Barr, and Baldwin, creating an inclusive big tent for all Liberty lovers. Deck chairs and ship sinking comes to mind. There is certainly a home for Ruwart there too.

[Kludge]

http://www.votemary2008.com/index.php?page=issues

She's really done some amazing work... She is a terrible politician and mishandled WAR's attacks on her (with that quote in particular)

[Dorfsmith]

I like Mary :)

[acroso]

F Mary Ruwart

[Thomas_Paine]

Keeping my response to this single question (and not the current setup and leadership of CFL)... NO.

CFL needs to separate itself from other groups. CFL has far too many Libertarians ties as it stands right now. Getting linked even further to the other groups is a really bad idea.

Ron Paul is not ashamed of his Libertarian ties, why are you? We have to make Liberty a GOOD word.

[Tarzan]

Ron Paul is not ashamed of his Libertarian ties, why are you? We have to make Liberty a GOOD word.


Because the Libertarian Party has a long history of losing.
Because the LP appears to have no idea how to change their losing results.
Because the LP is considered a fringe group by most of the voting populace.
Because the word libertarian is effectively used to label someone as a "wacko".
Because the word "libertarian" is effectively used by the media to label someone a "wacko".
Because "libertarian" does not equal "constitutionalist".
Because I thought the purpose of this movement was to restore a constitutional government... not to be derailed by promoting the ideas of the Libertarian Party or specific individuals.

We should not have to make the word "Liberty" a GOOD word... but because of certain Libertarian ideas and beliefs we have been put in that position.

To be successful this movement needs to stand on its own merits with a fresh approach. If individuals wish to join in a effort to restore a constitutional government they should do so. The current ties make this movement little more than an offshoot of the Libertarian Party. There should be no ties to specific movements or parties. We need a new banner under which to rally.

Once a constitutional government is achieved there will be plenty of opportunity to argue where to create the proper balance on libertarian absolutism and societal responsibility... and that debate belongs mostly at the state and local levels.