Ron Paul is a Republican!

[klamath]

I have been away from the computer campaigning for Ron Paul. My mother in law called last night and she wanted to talk to me about Roy Paul and Fred Thompson. I had told her about Ron Paul a couple of months ago. She obviously was swaying between Fred and Ron. I worked my best and finially she said "Well I am about ready to change my voter registration to independent so I have the option to vote for him. " "If you want to vote for Ron Paul you had better stay a Republican" I said. "What! I thought he wasn't a republican." The moral of the story is quit using liberterian when talking about him. We almost lost a vote!

I have been running into a lot of he cant't win and Thompson voters. Got work to do!

[BuddyRey]

Or at least make sure to clarify that he's a "small L" libertarian. This isn't just a necessary addendum for those pessimistic third-partyphobes, but also for non-Republicans (or genuine, old-school Republicans) who don't want another G.W. Bush.

[trispear]

It's the media and the other republicans that emphasizes Libertarian, not us.

[mdh]

It's the media and the other republicans that emphasizes Libertarian, not us.

I tend to only use the word libertarian when I'm talking to libertarians. Most others don't know what it means anyway, and for the ultra-stupid (ie 70+% of the population), it sounds enough like liberal to make them think pot-smoking tree-hugging socialist hippie.

[constituent]

pot-smoking tree-hugging socialist hippie.

come on mdh... i don't like hippies either...

but pot-smoking tree-hugging socialists, what the hell did they ever do to you?

</sarcasm>

[Revolution9]

I ALWAYS refer to him as a Republican. When I get the WTF? stares I point out he ran as a Lbertarian Presidential candidate in 1988 but you cannot win the Presidency unless you are Democrat or Republican. I have had local Libertarian leaders want to promote at the RockFest I am putting on and they were all communicating till I told them I am not supportng the Libertarian Party.. My efforts are to redirect the Republican Perty and boot the neocons. In this regards the Libertarian thing will only diffuse and weaken the attempt.. Well guess what.. I ain't heard back from them. Guess my blocking of the hijack of my intentions wasn't their cup of tea. As well I offered the Libertarians my music skills fr their thing, but they ignored that and tried t delegeat artwork to e.. Frankly it pissed me off and insulted me. I didn't fucking offer to do artwork.. I don't have the spare time nor drive..I offered to play musc..and I have asked several people i know abut their gig and not one of the bands of the 15 or so they have has anybody I know heard of..

RON PAUL OR BUST!!!! seriously.

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Randy

[LibertyEagle]

It's the media and the other republicans that emphasizes Libertarian, not us.

Yes, it's us too.

[LibertyEagle]

Or at least make sure to clarify that he's a "small L" libertarian. This isn't just a necessary addendum for those pessimistic third-partyphobes, but also for non-Republicans (or genuine, old-school Republicans) who don't want another G.W. Bush.

Unless we are asked, we really don't need to get into the difference between the different flavors of libertarianism, do we? What's the point? It doesn't do a thing to get Ron Paul elected.

Republicans want to know he is one of them, a Republican. For those who have had it drummed into their heads that he is a Libertarian, drill home that he is a 10 term Republican Congressman. Even that he is a libertarian-conservative and that is exactly how Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan referred to themselves. In fact, the libertarian-conservative philosophy is everything that traditional conservatism is all about. Right down the line. If they are traditional conservatives, they should remember these things. Even though it's been a long time since they have heard them.

- limited constitutional government
- personal privacy
- personal responsibility
- strong national defense
- fiscally responsible government
- individual liberty

[trispear]

Yes, it's us too.

Personally, I haven't seen that so much except from maybe some libertarian members - most of Ron Paul's supporters are Republican/Independent I take it?

Well, if calling someone a Libertarian is an issue (remember Reagan say Conservatism was Libertarianism at its core), what I do is refer to him as 10 term Republican and Constitutionalist.

I don't suppose a Constitutionalist has a bad connotation, does it?

[LibertyEagle]

... what I do is refer to him as 10 term Republican and Constitutionalist.

I don't suppose a Constitutionalist has a bad connotation, does it?

I don't think so. I'm not sure if a lot of people know what that means though. Heck, a lot of people don't even have any clue as to what is in the Constitution, or why it's important to preserve.

The only negative thing I've gotten is comments about the Constitution being old and outdated. That our Founders did a good job, but that now we have nuclear bombs, so what they said isn't workable anymore. Or some such similar stupidity.

[njandrewg]

exactly...the problem I have recently some people call him "EXTREMELY LEFT WING", must be Hannity viewers

[LibertyEagle]

exactly...the problem I have recently some people call him "EXTREMELY LEFT WING", must be Hannity viewers

That's when I go into my discussion of BIG government STATISM vs. Small government/individual liberty. I point out that if you advocate big government, you are a statist and that statists differ very little regardless of which side of the aisle they sit. "Social conservatives" usually throw a fit at this. I then ask them what the difference is between using big government to FORCE acceptance of their agenda on everyone, is much different than what they rail against on those on the left. All they differ in is *what* they want their big government to FORCE. I then go into the alternative. Limited constitutional government, states' rights, yada, yada....

Note: There ain't no such thing as a "social conservative". If you believe in attempting to get your way through big government and the force it wields, then you quite simply, are NOT a conservative at all.