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Arklatex
06-24-2008, 06:59 PM
Message to Obama and McCain: Don't Waste Time on Paul's Backers
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Posted June 24, 2008 | 10:20 AM (EST)


The message to Republican presidential contender John McCain and his Democratic rival Barack Obama don't waste any time courting no shot former GOP presidential contender Ron Paul's backers especially since Paul has not endorsed either candidate. From his few stray comments on the race, he likely won't. Yet the intense debate, speculation, and media talk continues that McCain at least will make a concerted effort to get Paul's backers on board. If true that won't do much for his campaign and even less for his image.

The scary thing about Paul's candidacy was never his fringe views on taxes, social security, abortion rights, his opposition to tough environmental regulations, tout of non-interference in state rights issues and his opposition to civil rights laws (said Paul, they actually promote bigotry by dividing Americans into race and class).

Or that during his truncated presidential campaign, Paul took much deserved heat for his screwball past shoot-from-the-lip quips that blacks are criminally inclined, political incompetents, and chronic welfare deadbeats, and that Lincoln was wrong to fight the Civil War. Nor was it really scary that he ran a campaign ad demanding that students from alleged terrorist countries should be denied visas into the U.S. Paul offered not a shred of proof that there are hordes of students pouring into America to commit terrorist acts.

The really scary thing was that his out of the pale views and bigoted quips made sense to the throngs of mostly young, naïve, and impressionable voters who shrilly cheered him on. They repeatedly lambasted, hectored, harangued, and giddily name called anyone who dared utter criticism of their leader. The Paul phenomenon had all the dangerous earmarkings of a political cult and that hasn't changed.

Yet, that notwithstanding, politics is politics. And with both Obama and McCain scratching and clawing for any edge they can get over the other, they will be sorely tempted to pander to the Paul crowd. In Obama's case that means claiming that he's in sync with Paul on a quick fold up of the Iraq war. He'll hope that the more liberal leaning Paul backers might be susceptible to this pitch and will ignore that he supports an assault on poverty, affordable health care, immigration reform, strong civil rights and civil liberties protections, abortion rights and environmental protections. These are issues that Paul and his backers are as far part from Obama on as the sun and the moon.

In McCain's case, it means that he'll try to convince the conservative leaning Paul backers the he's a bit of a closet Libertarian himself on taxes and loose government regulations. He'll hope that they ignore his tough it out, win the war stance on Iraq, support of deficit spending, and waffle on abortion, environmental and civil rights protections. Paul's backers share no common ground with McCain on these issues either.

As yet Paul's backers haven't given any sign that either of the candidates holds any real appeal to them. The likelihood though is that the majority of Paul backers regard Obama as a too liberal Democrat. His tout of big and expanded government renders him a poor option. A significant number of them abhor McCain's war stance enough to consider him only a slightly more viable option.
The even greater likelihood is that many Paul backers will simply render the Biblical pox on both of their houses and stay home. Or, in a few cases, throw in their lot with former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr. That might not be a bad fit considering Barr's sordid history of flirting with racist and ultra-right fringe groups.

In any case neither Obama nor McCain can ever hope to stir the rabid juices in the Paulites as Paul did with his kick the establishment in the teeth views.

Though Paul's views are an odd mesh of libertarianism, know-nothing Americanism, and ultra conservative laissez faire limited government, he still sees himself and his backers as major players on the political scene. He'll milk that for all it's worth.

In fact, he now says that he will hold a big rally in Minnesota at the same time as the Republican convention. Paul advisors say that they'll keep close tabs on how the Republicans treat their man and his supporters at that time.

If Obama and McCain think that they have to bend over backward to woo him and his true believing flock, then Paul will win what he couldn't at the polls, namely inflated political influence. If that happens, Obama and McCain lose.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book is The Ethnic Presidency: How Race Decides the Race to the White House (Middle Passage Press, February 2008).

Anyone have this guy's email? How 'naiive' he is!

The_Orlonater
06-24-2008, 07:04 PM
I should throw a brick at this guy. :mad:

rp08orbust
06-24-2008, 07:06 PM
The message to Republican presidential contender John McCain and his Democratic rival Barack Obama don't waste any time courting no shot former GOP presidential contender Ron Paul's backers especially since Paul has not endorsed either candidate.

The message a grammarless sentence like this sends: Don't read any further.

ItsTime
06-24-2008, 07:09 PM
omg people dont like Ron Paul. They are still writing things about Ron Paul? Jesus do they have anything better to do? Are we really making that much of an impact?

OH YA WE ARE! Our movement is here to stay and larger than most movements in the past.

sophocles07
06-24-2008, 07:09 PM
What a helpful post, Earl Ofari Hutchinson, you've really done a lot for everyone with this thing.

Jesus FUCKING Christ.

Bruno
06-24-2008, 07:10 PM
The Huffington Post is calling Paul supporters a cult? Geez! What does that make Obama supporters who just want to hang their Hope on Change and Hope things Change or something like that, I lose track.

JS4Pat
06-24-2008, 07:17 PM
Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst.

And 100% CLUELESS as to what Ron Paul, his message and his supporters are really all about...

Roxi
06-24-2008, 07:25 PM
omfg what an asshat

SnappleLlama
06-24-2008, 07:28 PM
There was nothing of substance in that article.

The_Orlonater
06-24-2008, 07:32 PM
The Huffington Post is calling Paul supporters a cult? Geez! What does that make Obama supporters who just want to hang their Hope on Change and Hope things Change or something like that, I lose track.


I'd sig this if I would have anymore room.

brandon
06-24-2008, 07:32 PM
The message to Republican presidential contender John McCain and his Democratic rival Barack Obama don't waste any time courting no shot former GOP presidential contender Ron Paul's backers especially since Paul has not endorsed either candidate.

The message a grammarless sentence like this sends: Don't read any further.
lol. I thought the same thing, but I decided to keep reading. Then I read the next segment of words that began with a capital leader and ended with a period...



From his few stray comments on the race, he likely won't.


Jesus christ. Did a 3rd grader with down syndome write this article?

Rangeley
06-24-2008, 07:54 PM
It reminds me of a report someone would write on something at the last minute with no research, simply to avoid passing nothing in and getting a 0.

Cowlesy
06-24-2008, 08:01 PM
Retarded article. Anyone with a shred of intelligence would laugh at it as utter garbage.

Fortunately, this person is a nobody, and writing barf like this will further solidify his obscurity as some shrill retard crying out for attention.

New York For Paul
06-25-2008, 09:36 AM
Arriana Huffington was a member and maybe an ordained minister in this Southern California Religious Cult in the early eighties. I would have to confirm the ordained minister part.

Her husband ran for congress as a guy who would not vote for any special funding bills for his own district.

Here is a Wiki link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_of_Spiritual_Inner_Awareness

"Like many other new religious movements centred around spiritual teachings stemming from one individual's writings and speeches, MSIA has frequently been accused of being a Cult of Personality. Whether or not MSIA should be labeled a cult is a matter of dispute. Both the movement and its founder have been through alleged scandals (published in People Magazine and the Los Angeles Times among other publications) suggesting financial improprieties as well as sexual misconduct by Hinkins.[citation needed] MSIA gained widespread attention during the senatorial campaign of Michael Huffington, whose wife, Arianna Huffington, denied that she was a member of MSIA. [1]"

There are some articles which link her to it. I would have to do further research.
She basically takes her ex husband's money to buy influence anyway she can.

Her original plan was to have her husband get elected to congress, then two years later have him run for senate, then two years later run for the presidency back in 1996. And of course use his own wealth to buy the presidency. Michael Huffington voted for very limited government.


More Wiki links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_102_%28book%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Huffington

Kade
06-25-2008, 09:42 AM
And 100% CLUELESS as to what Ron Paul, his message and his supporters are really all about...

Is he? Most of you are as stupid as he implies... the one's who seem to know better are generally shouted down...

I agree with his charge of naivety.

acptulsa
06-25-2008, 09:49 AM
And how does he make his living? According to the note at the bottom, by propagating racial divisions in the U.S. and telling other people to gain advantage from the same. What we have here is a person who has a vested interest in keeping rationality out of politics in the U.S.

New York For Paul
06-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Arianna Huffington profile.

"The future Arianna Huffington also became a disciple of the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, whose cult practiced open sexual intercourse among its members, and with its leader, as a central sacrament of their faith.

This cult later moved to America’s West Coast and attempted to take over an Oregon town. Bhagwan devotees were directed to purchase what eventually became 139 white Rolls Royces for their leader. As Judith Miller and two other New York Times investigative reporters recounted in their 2001 book Germs: Biological Weapons and America’s Secret War, the Rajneesh cult spread potentially lethal Salmonella bacteria in this town. Rajneesh cult members did this as a way of infecting and incapacitating town residents on election day so that cult voters could win control of the local government. The Bhagwan died in 1990."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2010

mediahasyou
06-25-2008, 05:57 PM
buried as inaccurate.

sajorojas
06-26-2008, 02:38 AM
This is the worst researched article I've ever read.

Can someone point me to a clip of Ron Paul ever calling saying that "blacks are criminally inclined, political incompetents, and chronic welfare deadbeats"?

And what is "know-nothing Americanism"?
I think the author might have mixed that term up with well-read Constitutionalist.

tonesforjonesbones
06-26-2008, 08:15 AM
lol...well..can anyone blog on Huffington Post? If so..someone should write a rebuttal. Huffington Post people hate freedom and liberty. It's a socialist internet rag. TONES

Kade
06-26-2008, 08:16 AM
lol...well..can anyone blog on Huffington Post? If so..someone should write a rebuttal. Huffington Post people hate freedom and liberty. It's a socialist internet rag. TONES

Why don't you write one and post it here?

coyote_sprit
06-26-2008, 08:42 AM
Can someone point me to a clip of Ron Paul ever calling saying that "blacks are criminally inclined, political incompetents, and chronic welfare deadbeats"?

It was in that newsletter that only gets brought up when a reporter has nothing good to slander Ron Paul with.