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Oyate
06-24-2008, 04:29 PM
Howdy folks,

Oyate the March Logistical Officer here. I hate to bring you negative news, but if we correctly understand what to do then we have nothing to be afraid of.

In doing this march, we have made implicit and explicit promises to our brothers and sisters in uniform in DC and by extension, to the citizens of DC. We will have a peaceful march. We will not conduct "civil disobedience", we will not tolerate the breaking of laws, the breaking of noses, at the most we might just tolerate the breaking of wind (farting) but even that can be offensive.

->always a joke with Oyate.....part serious, part humorous.

But anyways, we have a plan to deal with anyone who exhibits violent of destructive behavior and we need your help to make it work.

1. Point your finger at them and start to shout "shame, shame, shame, shame" and get the crowd to take up the chant.

2. Grab a marshal and get them to radio MLO (that's me) with your location and a physical description of the transgressors.

3. MLO will get in touch with the appropriate law enforcement agency and we'll set them up with bracelets, a taxi and a hotel room. Which means they will be handcuffed, stuffed in the back of a squad car and spend at least one night in jail.

I know every political movement has a sort of problematic view of government and law enforcement, but out of all political movements, we of all people are for law and order and those guys with the badge are our brothers and sisters in uniform. And those citizens in DC, those are our American people. And those buildings, however Constitutionally unfounded, are our common property.

So it's up to each and every one of us to take responsibility. But don't take it alone, call one of the Marshals. The Marshals are specifically trained to deal with these situations.

Don't know what else to say except that we love you and this march is gonna be kick-ass.

Acala
06-24-2008, 04:39 PM
Great plan.

Unlikely that any real RP supporters would create a problem, but I would be surprised if there were NOT agents for the cause of tyranny seeded among the patriots. By their actions they will make themselves known.

newyearsrevolution08
06-25-2008, 04:17 AM
Joking right?

Waiting on the cages to put our "free speech at as well".


What pisses me off is that this is a real issue that can cause REAL ANGER and guess what IT CAN HAPPEN. Am I going to call you or anyone if someone has an issue or gripe with what we are doing? NOPE. Does no one get that WE THE PEOPLE are in charge and don't need OTHERS to take care of issues that might arise?

We the people run this country, this march and it will continue, if someone has an issue with that then WE THE PEOPLE will deal with it not some marshal.

So sick of others thinking they know what is best for an entire group..


"shame, shame shame"

come on man, how the hell would that stop ANYTHING?

Every been in an altercation before?

holy hell.





1. Point your finger at them and start to shout "shame, shame, shame, shame" and get the crowd to take up the chant.

2. Grab a marshal and get them to radio MLO (that's me) with your location and a physical description of the transgressors.

3. MLO will get in touch with the appropriate law enforcement agency and we'll set them up with bracelets, a taxi and a hotel room. Which means they will be handcuffed, stuffed in the back of a squad car and spend at least one night in jail.

I know every political movement has a sort of problematic view of government and law enforcement, but out of all political movements, we of all people are for law and order and those guys with the badge are our brothers and sisters in uniform. And those citizens in DC, those are our American people. And those buildings, however Constitutionally unfounded, are our common property.

So it's up to each and every one of us to take responsibility. But don't take it alone, call one of the Marshals. The Marshals are specifically trained to deal with these situations.

Don't know what else to say except that we love you and this march is gonna be kick-ass.

Oyate
06-25-2008, 04:12 PM
Joking right?

Waiting on the cages to put our "free speech at as well".


What pisses me off is that this is a real issue that can cause REAL ANGER and guess what IT CAN HAPPEN. Am I going to call you or anyone if someone has an issue or gripe with what we are doing? NOPE. Does no one get that WE THE PEOPLE are in charge and don't need OTHERS to take care of issues that might arise?

We the people run this country, this march and it will continue, if someone has an issue with that then WE THE PEOPLE will deal with it not some marshal.

So sick of others thinking they know what is best for an entire group..


"shame, shame shame"

come on man, how the hell would that stop ANYTHING?

Every been in an altercation before?

holy hell.

I'm not sure I understand all of your points, but the "shame" thing disassociates the march from irresponsible actors. It's an effective technique. And the marshals will take action because they're instructed to do so. These are volunteers from the movement that are going to help us keep our promise to have a peaceful, safe and fun time.

Truth Warrior
06-25-2008, 04:14 PM
So what else is new? :D

dannno
06-25-2008, 04:31 PM
http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/internet_serious_business.jpg

SweetMona
06-26-2008, 02:02 PM
I can understand the leaders' message...

I'd like to add something here... that some might not know...

Seriously, we gotta support each other. Protect ourselves and those speakers...

I read news and blogs about Jeff.... Many people especially foreigners and illegal immigrants loathe Jeff. Even they made strong negative messages about him. I read them, really bad. Again, we need to watch out. We must identify and stop any pre-attacks/instigators.

Jeff Lewis - National Director of Fire Coalition to discuss the economic impact illegal immigration has had on the country as well as the tie between the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws and the NAU, as well as discussing why we are fighting a war on terrorism when our borders are still not secured.

Oyate
06-26-2008, 02:28 PM
I read news and blogs about Jeff.... Many people especially foreigners and illegal immigrants loathe Jeff. Even they made strong negative messages about him. I read them, really bad. Again, we need to watch out. We must identify and stop any pre-attacks/instigators.


Please PM me with any links or posts which contain threatening material.

SweetMona
06-26-2008, 04:18 PM
ok, word

Danke
06-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Joking right?

Waiting on the cages to put our "free speech at as well".


What pisses me off is that this is a real issue that can cause REAL ANGER and guess what IT CAN HAPPEN. Am I going to call you or anyone if someone has an issue or gripe with what we are doing? NOPE. Does no one get that WE THE PEOPLE are in charge and don't need OTHERS to take care of issues that might arise?

We the people run this country, this march and it will continue, if someone has an issue with that then WE THE PEOPLE will deal with it not some marshal.

So sick of others thinking they know what is best for an entire group..


"shame, shame shame"

come on man, how the hell would that stop ANYTHING?

Every been in an altercation before?

holy hell.

"Shame, Shame, Shame!"

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-18461524.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B6955196D-CA37-41B8-ADEA-CF405F577E02%7D


How am I doing so far?

Oyate
06-26-2008, 05:12 PM
"Shame, Shame, Shame!"
How am I doing so far?

Like a pro ;)

Acala
06-30-2008, 10:03 AM
Some folks don't get it.

There WILL be enemies of freedom among us with the goal of trying to incite an incident that will make us all look bad. Oyate has set up a system for dealing with this problem. Anyone who is coming to the march hoping to get violent can expect to be handed over to the cops. And it will be their tough luck. This is a peaceful march. If someone wants to have some other kind of march, they should set up their own.

Oyate
06-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Some folks don't get it.

There WILL be enemies of freedom among us with the goal of trying to incite an incident that will make us all look bad. Oyate has set up a system for dealing with this problem. Anyone who is coming to the march hoping to get violent can expect to be handed over to the cops. And it will be their tough luck. This is a peaceful march. If someone wants to have some other kind of march, they should set up their own.

I don't think I could have put it better myself. We have our people, our reputation and our congressman to protect. Not to mention the good people of DC.

There is a time and a place for everything. This is neither the time nor the place for destructive behavior.

newyearsrevolution08
06-30-2008, 01:10 PM
"Shame, Shame, Shame!"

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-18461524.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B6955196D-CA37-41B8-ADEA-CF405F577E02%7D


How am I doing so far?

Another issue avoided , wow it does work... lol come on now. I hope people do more then point and say shame was my point. If something is going on I hope we stop it before it gets out of hand. I don't want any action BUT to assume someone pointing and saying shame and waiting for someone to come and help is wishful thinking.

I do agree that if anyone does start something they need to be removed immediately. I was not saying that we need to ACT, I was just saying that raising our hands and saying "excuse me sir can you please, pretty please be nice here, shame shame shame" just might not cut it....

Oyate
06-30-2008, 02:07 PM
I was not saying that we need to ACT, I was just saying that raising our hands and saying "excuse me sir can you please, pretty please be nice here, shame shame shame" just might not cut it....

Leave that to me and the Marshals. I've done this before bro. Love the pic BTW.

newyearsrevolution08
06-30-2008, 04:10 PM
Leave that to me and the Marshals. I've done this before bro. Love the pic BTW.

lol, will do bro....

Danke
06-30-2008, 04:16 PM
Leave that to me and the Marshals. I've done this before bro. Love the pic BTW.

Can we at least change it to " Asshole, Asshole, Asshole!" Instead of "Shame, ..." ? I just can say that in public while pointing my finger.

Acala
06-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Can we at least change it to " Asshole, Asshole, Asshole!" Instead of "Shame, ..." ? I just can say that in public while pointing my finger.

Ahahahahahahaha! What if there are children present?

Nirvikalpa
06-30-2008, 04:36 PM
Ahahahahahahaha! What if there are children present?

They hear worse. ;):D

Oyate
06-30-2008, 05:01 PM
Can we at least change it to " Asshole, Asshole, Asshole!" Instead of "Shame, ..." ? I just can say that in public while pointing my finger.

Between this and the Naomi thread we should just go on comedy tour. The trouble is, nobody but us seems to think we're funny.....

LibertyEagle
06-30-2008, 05:21 PM
Some folks don't get it.

There WILL be enemies of freedom among us with the goal of trying to incite an incident that will make us all look bad. Oyate has set up a system for dealing with this problem. Anyone who is coming to the march hoping to get violent can expect to be handed over to the cops. And it will be their tough luck. This is a peaceful march. If someone wants to have some other kind of march, they should set up their own.

+1

Good job, Oyate.