The Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Money Bomb!

[JKap]

Since, in some circles, there seems to be so much disagreement (whether real or manufactured) about the future of the R[3VOL] (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/)ution, I propose something that all Ron Paul supporters can agree upon: The Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Money Bomb!

If enough people get behind this, we could set up a website to take pledges for donations (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/donate/) to the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/), like the other successful "money-bomb" fundraising efforts of the Ron Paul for President 2008 grassroots campaign.

What are your thoughts? When do you think it should take place? Does early July, possibly July 4th sound like a good idea? Or should we target a later date, closer to the Ron Paul Rally in Minneapolis?

We haven't done one of this size in so long--it could be just the thing--the perfect opportunity to demonstrate to the world that we're still here, we're still strong, and we're still a force to be reckoned with!

campaignforliberty.com/donate/ (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/donate/)

Original thread on the Daily Paul: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/53288

[constitutional]

The date should be much later, around convention. Why? Because Campaign For Liberty web site won't be unveiled until the convention according to the web site and we will gain exposure around the web and possibly be back in the news!

[SnappleLlama]

I've already donated, but some people here refuse to donate until CFL formally announces what type of organization it is.

[Kade]

I'm holding out until I know what kind organization it is... If it's promising, then I'm all about a money bomb. I'll wait post convention.

[xRedfoxx]

I agree with folks above...I'm all in but not until I see how they are going to be organized and the level of support they will have for the grassroots.

[constitutional]

I'm holding out until I know what kind organization it is... If it's promising, then I'm all about a money bomb. I'll wait post convention.
Good for you.

What kind of organization do you want it to be?

Thanks

[SLSteven]

I'm holding out until I know what kind organization it is...

Live a little, Kade

[Mahkato]

The moneybomb will be September 3.

[Kade]

Live a little, Kade

If you only knew.

[constitutional]

"I won't donate until the blimp flies in the air". If we all thought like this, it would have never made it.

That fact that we like the freedom ideas RP is endorsing, there is no reason for someone to give an excuse on "kind of organization" for not donating. And even if you do not like the organization (how could you not?), where will you go? Will you start your own because hell I'm not donatingsince you just failed to respond to my question of "What kind of organization do you want it to be?".

[Kade]

Good for you.

What kind of organization do you want it to be?

Thanks

Not this (http://www.cpac.org/).

[SnappleLlama]

The moneybomb will be September 3.

Do you have a link to the chip-in or pledge site?

[JKap]

I'm holding out until I know what kind organization it is... If it's promising, then I'm all about a money bomb. I'll wait post convention.

Well, what kind of organization do you think a Paul Adminstration would be? I'd call it "promising."

[Deborah K]

"I won't donate until the blimp flies in the air". If we all thought like this, it would have never made it.

That fact that we like the freedom ideas RP is endorsing, there is no reason for someone to give an excuse on "kind of organization" for not donating. And even if you do not like the organization (how could you not?), where will you go? Will you start your own because hell I'm not donatingsince you just failed to respond to my question of "What kind of organization do you want it to be?".

Isn't the C4L getting the millions left over from the campaign?

[Mckarnin]

Not this (http://www.cpac.org/).

Or, to be honest this: http://www.libertypac.net/index.html


Looks like it was set up in 2004 and I don't see much evidence of anything happening.


Or this: http://www.free-nefl.com/index.html

Seems to have some documents dating back to 1997, again, no sign of any major progress or successful initiatives.

[Mckarnin]

Isn't the C4L getting the millions left over from the campaign?

Sounds like they are having some legal difficulty with transferring the money which begs the question...what the heck is going to happen to the $4.7 million?

People who are good stewards of a little can be trusted with more and those who are not good stewards of a little should not trusted with more. I have yet to see any clear signs of good stewardship of resources (human, monetary, emotional, strategic) from the Ron Paul Campaign and am very hesitant to entrust them with anything further.

[UtahApocalypse]

I've already donated, but some people here refuse to donate until CFL formally announces what type of organization it is.

Agreed!


"I won't donate until the blimp flies in the air". If we all thought like this, it would have never made it.

That fact that we like the freedom ideas RP is endorsing, there is no reason for someone to give an excuse on "kind of organization" for not donating. And even if you do not like the organization (how could you not?), where will you go? Will you start your own because hell I'm not donatingsince you just failed to respond to my question of "What kind of organization do you want it to be?".

Its not even a matter of what the organization plans to do, or in what way. The big answer that MUST be answered is for legal reasons. Depending on the type of organization (Private Corporation, Political Action Committee, Non-Profit, etc...) will make a absolute HUGE difference in the amount one can legally donate, weather its taxable, if it counts towards political contributions. So yeas it is a absolute that has to be formalized before people donate and possibly end up in real hot water. As to you comparison about the blimp.... does not apply, we all knew it was a Business venture and donated with that knowledge.

[JKap]

From Ron Paul's message to supporters on the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty website (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/):


...I am happy to announce the official launch of the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.

The work of the Campaign for Liberty will take many forms. We will educate our fellow Americans in freedom, sound money, non-interventionism, and free markets. We’ll have our own commentaries and videos on the news of the day. I’ll work with friends I respect to design materials for homeschoolers.

Politically, we’ll expand the great work of our precinct leader program. We’ll make our presence felt at every level of government, where just a few people with our level of enthusiasm can make a world of difference. We’ll keep an eye on Congress and lobby against legislation that threatens us. We’ll identify and support political candidates who champion our great ideas against the empty suits the party establishments offer the public.

We will be a permanent presence on the American political landscape. That I promise you. We’re not about to let all this good work die. To the contrary, with your help we’re going to make it grow – by leaps and bounds.

This is the most ambitious venture of my political career, and I think it can achieve great things. But I can’t do this alone. I need you to help me. I need your energy, your creativity, your ideas, and your dedication.

People frustrated with our political system often wonder what they can do. I have founded this organization to answer that question, to give people the opportunity to do something that really makes a difference in the fight for freedom. Please join me by becoming a member of the Campaign for Liberty. Our goal is 100,000 members by September. Can we reach it?

Our campaign netted 1.1 million votes in the primaries of a shrinking Republican Party. Millions more support us. I need you to help me reach them – and to keep making new converts to the cause. What a force we can be, if only we rise to the occasion.


I don't think that these words are conjecture from Dr. Paul. I think they represent something very real and concrete for which he is setting forth his vision of a new organization. I believe and trust Dr. Paul. I sense his confidence and I know that he would not articulate something that was not supported by reality.

I understand that there are there are those who "refuse to donate until CFL formally announces what type of organization it is." But I think that the majority of Paul supporters would not share that view. I think most us of trust Dr. Paul's leadership--that is one reason why we have come together to support his candidacy for the Presidency.

For those who would suggest that Ron Paul's campaign for President turned out not to be a very good investment, since we did not, allegedly, according to black-box Stalinist-style elections, win a majority of the delegates to the Republican National Convention, I would submit that, like Ron Paul, I believe that this R3VOLution is a long term project whereas the 2008 elections are just a short term goal. I would submit that the real triumph of the Ron Paul Revolution thus far has been that we liberty-lovers have found each other and coalesced around the message of individual liberty and constitutional government and that we have inspired and motivated each other to take back our country one step at a time from within the corrupted political systems of the Bilateral War Party. I believe that Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty will facilitate just that and unify our efforts so as to multiply our talents.

I support the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.