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New York For Paul
06-23-2008, 09:32 AM
The Revolt Against McCain

http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/

"This time, conservatives may be thinking more along the lines of “fool me twice” than they are eager to fall into line and support a candidate they can barely tolerate. If conservatives roll over once again, it will be very difficult for them to demand anything of a candidate or elected official in the future. They will have sold out for short-term political expediency, and sealed the coffin of the Reagan Revolution."

"If the Republican Party learns a lesson by seeing John McCain abandoned by a substantial portion of the party’s core voters, the next time amnesty comes up for a vote you can bet they’d be eager to prove their bonafides in order to return this portion of the electorate to the Republican fold."

"The unlawful presence of millions of illegal aliens causes more deaths to American citizens than result from the war on terror, threatens vast portions of our healthcare system more than any other cause, and costs taxpayers billions of dollars that might not otherwise be spent. Illegal immigration threatens American culture, fiscal stability, public education and domestic security. When the expected nominees of both major political parties apparently favor amnesty for illegal aliens, the long-term negative implications are so tremendous that some voters are going to set aside their concerns on a four year horizon in order to protect the future on a horizon that stretches twenty years and beyond."

New York For Paul
06-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Debate rages among Virginia Republicans whether to support or abandon McCain.

http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/

"Immigration is the most important issue because if there is an amnesty conservative voters will be overwhelmed by third-world, uneducated socialists voters. And this demographic tidal that crushes the conservative vote will be permanent. There is no more consequential issue than citizenship for illegals. It’s more important than Supreme Court judges.

McCain will be far worse than Obama on this issue because the Republicans won’t fight McCain but they will fight Obama.

Conservatives must vote against McCain! Write in Hunter or Tancredo."

"How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase whack-job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses “profit” as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes “stopping global warming” is worth destroying the American economy, won’t drill ANWR to alleviate our energy deficit, won’t appoint strict constructionist justices, won’t protect marriage, would throttle free speech given another opportunity, hasn’t protected the borders in his 26 years in Congress, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times in addition to other liberal media, and lives in a delusionary world of rage and self-appointed war hero vanity?"

"I am more concerned with returning the Republican party to its conservative values than I am about who will be the next president. I have written off the next four years. It’s apparent to me that we have to burn the party down now in order to rebuild it. Moderates will continue to rule the day if McCain is elected. And there isn’t any real difference between a Republican moderate and a liberal in my book."

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
06-23-2008, 10:54 AM
Debate rages among Virginia Republicans whether to support or abandon McCain.

http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/

"Immigration is the most important issue because if there is an amnesty conservative voters will be overwhelmed by third-world, uneducated socialists voters. And this demographic tidal that crushes the conservative vote will be permanent. There is no more consequential issue than citizenship for illegals. It’s more important than Supreme Court judges.

McCain will be far worse than Obama on this issue because the Republicans won’t fight McCain but they will fight Obama.

Conservatives must vote against McCain! Write in Hunter or Tancredo."

"How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase whack-job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses “profit” as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes “stopping global warming” is worth destroying the American economy, won’t drill ANWR to alleviate our energy deficit, won’t appoint strict constructionist justices, won’t protect marriage, would throttle free speech given another opportunity, hasn’t protected the borders in his 26 years in Congress, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times in addition to other liberal media, and lives in a delusionary world of rage and self-appointed war hero vanity?"

"I am more concerned with returning the Republican party to its conservative values than I am about who will be the next president. I have written off the next four years. It’s apparent to me that we have to burn the party down now in order to rebuild it. Moderates will continue to rule the day if McCain is elected. And there isn’t any real difference between a Republican moderate and a liberal in my book."

Let me complement you on this thread here. While it doesn't seem to have an introduction, the effort to edit the main idea into quotations goes beyond the norm in this forum.

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By dissing the conservatives he assumes will have to vote for him regardless, McCain is banking on picking up closet liberal racists from the Hillary camp.

Primbs
06-23-2008, 11:55 AM
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New York For Paul
06-23-2008, 11:57 AM
http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/

"For those that consider illegal immigration to be the issue they are most concerned about, was already little reason to support John McCain.

That’s not because these voters didn’t give the McCain campaign a chance — they were desperately hoping that McCain would give them a reason to vote for him.

Instead, McCain decided to attack them as his opposition and advocate policies they find outrageous and flat-out destructive to our country, and they are outraged.

Given the choice between a pro-amnesty Democrat and a pro-amnesty Democrat wanna-be, conservatives and those most concerned about illegal immigration have to look beyond this presidential election to find a way out of what has become a depressing mess."

HOLLYWOOD
06-23-2008, 12:18 PM
It's all a Farce...

It has already been decided, Obama WINS, By a LANDSLIDE.

Unless AIPAC buys Diebold

nate895
06-23-2008, 01:33 PM
It's all a Farce...

It has already been decided, Obama WINS, By a LANDSLIDE.

Unless AIPAC buys Diebold

Obama will win. I'm betting he gets over 400 electoral votes. By October, we will be thinking "Will McCain come in third, to a Libertarian?" Conservatives will abandon McCain as soon as the polls put him out of reach, the GOP will be left in the dust, barely maintaining a filibuster ability in the Senate. I only hope that there will be 40 votes against amnesty left on November 5, 2008.