49% think Feds should regulate Internet

[Anti Federalist]

49% Say Government Should Regulate Internet

Saturday, June 21, 2008

Nearly half of Americans (49%) believe that the federal government should regulate the Internet the same way it does radio and television, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national survey.

Women also feel much more strongly about federal regulation of the Internet, with 55% in favor, 25% opposed and 20% undecided. Men reject federal regulation by a small margin – 46% to 42% -- with 12% unsure.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/49_say_government_should_regulate_internet

[Conza88]

All they have to do is use the "save the children" card.. I mean, NOOO don't get Net Nanny or anything.. we should regulate the whole net! Why won't someone think of the Children!!! They might come across pornography or something sick!! Oh noes! :rolleyes:

Just happened in Australia.

[IPSecure]

49% Say Government Should Regulate Internet


99% Say The People Should Regulate The Government!

[OptionsTrader]

This is presicely why the founders abhorred "democracy" as a form of government.

[RideTheDirt]

Who did they ask?Bill O really?

[Anti Federalist]

This is presively why the founders abhorred "democracy" as a form of government.

Bingo.

More and more I'm thinking a separation is the only answer.

With all due respect to the good Doctor, there's no "educating our way" out of this mess, not in the short amount of time we have left and with such massive boobery displayed by polls like this.

[Doktor_Jeep]

Women also feel much more strongly about federal regulation of the Internet, with 55% in favor, 25% opposed and 20% undecided. Men reject federal regulation by a small margin – 46% to 42% -- with 12% unsure.


This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.

[Anti Federalist]

This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.

Oh shit.:rolleyes:
http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0051-0501-2111-4859_SM.jpg

[newyearsrevolution08]

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!
Fuck internet regulation!

[Mach]

We should fund some bigtime polls and when someone answers that they are for Internet Regulation then they should be asked..... what has the government ever been put in charge of and then improved and/or helped it? :mad:

[Knightskye]

Last I checked, 49% wasn't a majority. :cool:

People don't think much after they're asked a question.

"Do you want them to regulate the internet just like the FCC does with TV and radio?"
"Sure!"

Only 49%, though. Not bad for sheep.

[Conza88]

Last I checked, 49% wasn't a majority. :cool:

People don't think much after they're asked a question.

"Do you want them to regulate the internet just like the FCC does with TV and radio?"
"Sure!"

Only 49%, though. Not bad for sheep.

Hahaha, sweet perspective. :D :cool:

[kombayn]

Bingo.

More and more I'm thinking a separation is the only answer.

With all due respect to the good Doctor, there's no "educating our way" out of this mess, not in the short amount of time we have left and with such massive boobery displayed by polls like this.

+1, if it came down to that because America was being ripped apart by moralists then fuck them, it's on or they just "moderate" by placing fees for the "good-shit". Like HBO or Showtime... Fuck that!

[amy31416]

This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.

I'm not offended. I'm not worried about freedom--but if freedom involves the right to molest a child, be prepared to pay the price.

And the price may be your genitalia.

I don't like the idea that women look to the government for protection, but what the fuck do you think they're going to do if men don't shape the fuck up, protect their own children and quit blaming everyone else for their problems?

It is a natural instinct for women to protect their children, why would they need the government if men were doing their part? (Just playing the flip side here.)

If women will vote for the commie because they're afraid the children won't be taken care of, what is the real solution to such a situation? Take the vote away from women, or FIX THE PROBLEM rather than keep trying to find a scapegoat and band-aid things?

[pcosmar]

It is not really a gender issue. It is an ignorance issue.
Most people have NO idea how one computer connects to another.
Most people have NO interest in or knowledge about securing their own computer.

Many think of the Computer as a fancy TV. Just turn it on and tune in.

The Government likes Ignorant people.

[pcosmar]

also don't forget that These People are out there.
http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/category/education/technical/linux

Those may be spoof sites (or maybe not) but there are many folks just like them, and the vote. :eek: :eek:

[acptulsa]

also don't forget that These People are out there.
http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/category/education/technical/linux

Those may be spoof sites (or maybe not) but there are many folks just like them, and the vote. :eek: :eek:

I believe you're right. I believe these are exactly the kinds of people who would scream the loudest for internet regulation. And yet, this is some of the scariest and most disgusting crap I've ever seen on the 'net For instance:

"These folks get it: Gas prices are high because selfish greedy people keep the prices high - us poor folks end up having to pay sky-high bills to fuel our trucks just so some Chinaman can have aircon in their home. Those Chinese lived for hundreds of years without air-conditioning, how come they need it all of a sudden now? What’s their excuse for buying up all the oil that should be rightfully ours?"

Ummm... We lived for hundreds of years without air conditioning. Why do we need it now and what makes that oil rightfully ours again?

[Agent CSL]

Many think of the Computer as a fancy TV. Just turn it on and tune in.

Sadly. :( I spend hours voluntarily fixing other's computers and setting up protections, and I know many people who do the same. You'd be AMAZED at how many people don't know even the slightest bit how to use them. Even senior management.

People think they can escape the responsibility of keeping their computer finely tuned with regular cleanings. Especially Windows. Those things can run great if they're kept clean. My dad makes money on the side buying "broken" computers, only to find out that it just needs to be given a tune-up. Then it's good to go again. At the worst it needs to be reformatted which is no big deal.

Fuckin' people who don't know shit.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Since when did we consider these type polls to be accurate?

[Andrew-Austin]

We should regulate books and newspapers too. :eek:

[raystone]

This stat is the worse case of FU Frank...here's the opening question of this "survey" (from the link)...

1* How closely have you followed recent news stories about a Missouri woman accused in a MySpace hoax that led to the suicide of a teenage girl?

The only survey leadoff question that could be worse is "Have you heard Charlie Manson is using the internet to organize another Manson cult to kill you and your family?"

....followed by "Do you think the internet should be regulated ?

This is how public opinion is formed, and unless we start using these fear tactics, we will lose.

[acptulsa]

This is how public opinion is formed, and unless we start using these fear tactics, we will lose.

That would be easy enough--provided we can prove they're bigger criminals than your (for example) average internet predator.

And they are, too. They just cover their sizeable asses better.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Just like DirecTV's latest commercial within the Cable company's boardroom, the one guy say:

90% of statistics/figures can be manipulated to say anything... 50% of the time.

We need a 90% reduction in government across this country with 100% regulation

[Anti Federalist]

This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.

Ha, well, I guess this post was the one that pushed electronicmaji over the edge and made him leave.:rolleyes:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=144095

It's a sad fact ladies, welfare programs, seat belt laws, helmet laws, "free" health care, gun control, regulating the internet, prohibition, the "drug war" and so many similar anti-freedom initiatives are more strongly supported by women than men.

Not to say that I'm in favor of repealing universal suffrage, but I would be in favor of this: before anybody can vote in any election or ballot measure, they must pass a test of basic civics knowledge.

If you can't pass a basic, ten question multiple choice test on things like the three branches of government or simple constitutional knowledge, you should not let within 100 yards of a polling place.

[newyearsrevolution08]

wow what a shock, a national poll pushing bullshit that will end up being a reality because people vote the way polls go. Fucking idiots everywhere.

They will get a one world government and be able to regulate everything anyways.

Get ready.

[Anti Federalist]

This stat is the worse case of FU Frank...here's the opening question of this "survey" (from the link)...

1* How closely have you followed recent news stories about a Missouri woman accused in a MySpace hoax that led to the suicide of a teenage girl?

The only survey leadoff question that could be worse is "Have you heard Charlie Manson is using the internet to organize another Manson cult to kill you and your family?"

....followed by "Do you think the internet should be regulated ?

This is how public opinion is formed, and unless we start using these fear tactics, we will lose.

What a bunch of shit.

Figures.

[robskicks]

wow what a shock, a national poll pushing bullshit that will end up being a reality because people vote the way polls go. Fucking idiots everywhere.

They will get a one world government and be able to regulate everything anyways.

Get ready.

Fuck that.

[James Madison]

Not to say that I'm in favor of repealing universal suffrage, but I would be in favor of this: before anybody can vote in any election or ballot measure, they must pass a test of basic civics knowledge.

If you can't pass a basic, ten question multiple choice test on things like the three branches of government or simple constitutional knowledge, you should not let within 100 yards of a polling place.

I'd support that but it would eventually be used as a type of poll tax to restrict certain people from voting.

[newyearsrevolution08]

Fuck that.

+1 :mad:

[SevenEyedJeff]

People trusting the government too much and not doing things for themselves has got us into the current mess we are in. I wish they would wake up someday...and before we live in Nazi America.

[Paulitician]

Regulate in what way? (Television and radio really aren't specific)

It seems to me either government or business will try to limit internet access--government mainly for censorship issues, and businesses in order to get more profits. Theoretically, government should be more accountable to the people, however, I actually think business is. They have more to gain or to lose here, unless they're protected by government some way. Government is not really looking for profit, just control. However, if both collude, then we're really fucked. Given that most Americans are passive idiots, I think we're going to be like boiling frogs no matter what happens to the internet. Sucks, don't it?

Edit: It seems it's talking about harassment. Sure, it's going to be harassmentt, but then it's going be something else, and then something else until government has complete control of the internet. Jesus Christ, people are like fucking children, needing government to assisst them on everything. Whatever happened to personal responsibility, did it just die and go to hell?

[youngbuck]

also don't forget that These People are out there.
http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/category/education/technical/linux

Those may be spoof sites (or maybe not) but there are many folks just like them, and the vote. :eek: :eek:

:eek::eek:God Help Us!

I can't believe how downright stupid people are! omg...


2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing?


3. Has your child asked for new hardware?

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

Lol, maybe it is a joke, idk!

[Alex Libman]

I hate to say this, but there is a hypothetical point where armed civil rebellion (i.e. "domestic terrorism") becomes the only viable political option, and destruction of the free Internet will bring us a lot closer to that point...


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[AFM]

This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.

I love this post
BOMBS AWAY

[Paulitician]

This was the reason why women were not given voting rights in the first place.

Even before the Constitution, history showed that women will bring on tyranny when the evildoers play the "it's for the cheeldren" card. The Founders knew this well from history.

Since women will not give up the right to vote, and no civilisation that let's women vote has ever lasted....

well, something's gotta happen.

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.

And in 2000 years, the next attempt at a constitutional representative republic will look at how America is voted down to the path of socialism starting in the same year (1920) as women's suffrage, and they will make the same logical decision.



Dont' like it? Well also be sure not to like that without the free internet that most women are apparently against, there would never have been a Ron Paul movement. Take plenty of time not liking that.
Is it coincidence that once women were able to vote, the welfare state exploded? You decide.

[Anti Federalist]

I hate to say this, but there is a hypothetical point where armed civil rebellion (i.e. "domestic terrorism") becomes the only viable political option, and destruction of the free Internet will bring us a lot closer to that point...

+1 for keeping your powder dry.

[Mesogen]

If you ask the poll questions the right way, you could get those same exact people to go 75% against internet regulation.

[Anti Federalist]

If you ask the poll questions the right way, you could get those same exact people to go 75% against internet regulation.

Yup.

This is a "Fuck You Frank" type poll.

Self fulfilling prophecy.:mad:

[Paulfan05]

That shelly blog is nuts, I hope its a parody

[pcosmar]

That shelly blog is nuts, I hope its a parody

Yes it is. And the more you read the worse it gets.
Now I don't know if that is real or satire. If satire, it is well done. However I know several people in real life that think and talk like that. And they vote.
It is scary. :eek:

[moostraks]

And for those ladies who are offended by my comments, don't give me the crap. Get out there and giver your "sisters" the crap. If you don't, then take the blame.



You know if you don't want crap then you should keep your mouth shut :p, otherwise accept responsibility for what you feel is an accurate assessment of the destruction of the american society.

Is there proof that the majority of votes are women or that women are the ones who fabricated all the programs that are causing the downfall of our society? I don't believe that the number of women voting in any election cycle out numbers men nor that it has consistently done so as to be a factor towards the decay of society.Maybe you should track down who is creating these programs and what is behind the losses of liberty and lay it at their feet instead of acting like an ignoramus with demeaning,belittling attitude.

Propaganda is a technique used for ages to coerce people into willingly accepting a false situation as being beneficial. Seems this was another Frank-esque survey which will be used to coerce people into voting in like minded fashion for what tptb want to occur. Divisive posts by neanderthals only serve to further tptb's agenda by shifting focus towards demonizing people rather than realizing the corruption that allows fear to usurp liberty...

As for women being responsible for ignorant votes of other women, why should this be the case? Can you not articulate a case for freedom and liberty to anyone other than petty males who fear women??? Everyone is responsible for their own actions, enough with the group think mentality...:)

[Carole]

:D

I am a woman and I get very angry with the way so many women in general vote.

They do not research but merely listen to rhetoric and vote touchy-feely bleeding-heart votes for the better looking candidate.

I am often of the opinion that no one-male or female- should be allowed to vote without passing some sort of civics test and naming at least six issues of their favorite candidate and how that candidate stands on the issues and why. Then they should tell where the other candidates stand on the same issues and why.

What I find truly offensive is people voting uninformed.

[Carole]

People who participate in polls should be required to know the issue pro and con of which they have an opinion.

Otherwise polls are meaningless and represent nothing other than misinformation, both projected by the MSM and voted by poll participants through the lack of any understanding of the issue.

[expatriot]

:D

I am a woman and I get very angry with the way so many women in general vote.

They do not research but merely listen to rhetoric and vote touchy-feely bleeding-heart votes for the better looking candidate.

I am often of the opinion that no one-male or female- should be allowed to vote without passing some sort of civics test and naming at least six issues of their favorite candidate and how that candidate stands on the issues and why. Then they should tell where the other candidates stand on the same issues and why.

What I find truly offensive is people voting uninformed.

+1 -> You nailed it.

FYI - there are those of us who are working on rectifying this issue.

Elsewhere.

[Truth Warrior]

Gee, and CCP regulation of the Internet works so well in China, WITH Google's technology and help. :p :rolleyes:

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Well, we regulate women, so now, they want to regulate us. That's understandable. Most of the women probably just misinterpreted the question, and they don't want children to be harmed, so most of the "ayes" probably don't foresee the harm in regulating the internet. I think alot of the problem is due to the fact that most Americans are apathetic politically and only rarely do people KNOW what they believe in, and are able to argue for it with more than emotion. That's kind of..rare. They just don't know it's bad for them. That's why they voted for it in the poll, they just don't know what we know.

[strapko]

I do not believe women are the problem. The Federal Reserve Act got ratified in 1913, which is the main cause of a welfare state(the ability of funding programs without taxing directly). A central bank is key in any socialistic system.

[armstrong]

I tend to agree with anti federalist ,,dont think we can educate our way out of this mess at its current state of affairs. we are long down the road to collapse,we need alot of changes to happen just to have an opportunity to fix this mess,,just to last long enough to educate people.....I have said many times before we need dramatic change a patriot summit to give a real opportunity to vote for someone who can accually win against Obama or mcain----Jesse and Ron or Ron and Jesse at least that would give us a fighting chance....education is the answer dont get me wrong....but do we have 4 more years of these polices we have now and what obama and mcain have in store for us.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Create a CRISIS... that effects, 0.0000001% of the internet users

SPIN IT Dramatically...

Draft and Pass Legislation for complete CONTROL...

=

AMERICAN INTERNET USERS SCREWED

This is how they do it at ALL LEVELS of GOVERNMENT... for GOVERNMENT Revenues, Controls, and/or POWER.

[mediahasyou]

This is presicely why the founders abhorred "democracy" as a form of government.

Amen.