Formal Announcement: New Ron Paul Freedom Forums

[SeekLiberty]

(Moderators: Please post this in the appropriate and proper forum if General Politics & Other isn't the correct one. Thanks! - SL)

Ron Paul Freedom Forums is owned and operated by a "9/11 skeptic" such as myself. www.RonPaulFreedomForums.org is a "Truth movement friendly" website which has the backs of all lovers of Freedom, Truth, and Justice.

You are allowed to speak YOUR OWN opinions freely. So you can feel Free to safely speak your mind without worry that you'll get banned. (The only way you could get banned is by spamming disinfo, porn, or advertising.)

My hope is to help ignite the fire of Liberty and spirit of Independence. These forums are meant to cater to INDIVIDUALISTS, not collectivists. We recognize that each individual has their own part to play in this collaborated fight for our Freedom, and that it is THEIR choice to do it THEIR way (like Aaron Russo did) in which they think is best. Nobody "knows best" and cannot speak for everybody. That's the attitude here.

It was a difficult decision to choose which software I wanted to run these forums. I chose the one I did because it runs extremely fast (with no "tables" which helps in the search engines) when there are 1,000's and 1,000's of users (just in case!:-)).

Unique features:

* ONE main forum: So your posts can be read by ALL. This INCLUDES "hot topics." (There are no hidden forums.)

* Reputation System: This was a requested feature to help members monitor themselves without heavy handedness. With Freedom comes responsibility. So we have a "reputation" system where others can judge others' contributions. Guests can read the reputations but may not add or subtract. Members must post at least 10 messages before they can add to a reputation. After 50 posts, they may subtract. Each added or subtracted reputation requires a reason. The reasons can be viewed by all members.

* Embedded Videos: You can embed just about any video you wish WITHIN your posts.

* Lots of fun "smilies" to choose from when you "post reply" or "post new topic".

* You can have up to 200 messages in your PM box (Private Message) so you don't have to constantly delete old ones.

* You can choose from over a dozen "site style" templates in Profile > Display so you can pick which viewing style of this site you like best. Today's current (as of this writing) default site style is "Novin" ... a Star Trek type look, however, you can choose from styles such as "Quicktime" (like their site), "VB style" (like VBulletin sites), "Alice White" (which is very clean non-boxy look). You always have the option to change site styles at any time, and it takes just a few seconds to do.

If you haven't done so already, please register.

http://ronpaulfreedomforums.org/register.php

Here are the "levels" of Membership:

Liberty Seeker: 0-9 Posts

Freedom Fighter: 10 Posts

Swordsman for Liberty: 50 Posts

Statesman for Liberty: 100 Posts

Star of Liberty: 250 Posts

Champion of Liberty: 500 Posts

There's a lot of Liberty lovers out there whom need a good "home" to associate with like kind, and I hope these forums here can be that for YOU. :hug:

- SL

PS: These forums (none are hidden or private) are made to run fast for all users (and made to be very indexable in the search engines.) Avatars in your profile need to be 80x80px or less. Here's an easy way to take ANY picture and bring it down to the size you want. Go to ...

http://www.shrinkpictures.com/

For avatars, put the number "80" (without the quotes) in the Custom field. In just a minute or less you'll have any picture you want as an avatar for your profile.

[fsk]

It looks like you're the only poster so far. The value of a forum is proportional to the number of users.

For what you're doing, it looks like setting up your own blog might be better than setting up your own forum. I like blogger's ease of use.

[SeekLiberty]

It looks like you're the only poster so far. <clip>

Does it really look like that to you? lol. I think you need to take another look. BTW, how do new forums ever get started? Just like businesses, new forums never start out big either. They grow from one to many (if done right).

FYI, I've hardly even begun promoting it as I've been focusing on completing the foundation (see the unique features of the forum in the original post) for more new members I expect in the future. I've had to make a lot of posts myself to kickstart people's thinking caps. :) I still need to add polls and a calendar and then I'll have it pretty much wrapped up to start major promotion. Thanks to posters' input, the forum is really taking on its own unique "personality" now.

Thanks for the advice but I think I'll stick with making my forums a success no matter how difficult it may be or how much discouragement I get from others.

Here's the Main Forums: (Notice that I'm not the only poster so far. ;))

http://www.ronpaulfreedomforums.org/viewforum.php?id=28

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- SL

[SeanEdwards]

(The only way you could get banned is by spamming disinfo, porn, or advertising.)


Translation:

Disagree with any 'truther' theories of 9/11 and you are outa there.


Good luck with your forum SL. I won't be visiting, but I sincerely hope you are successful in creating a forum friendly to people who share your agenda.

[cjhowe]

lol, posting disinfo on a truther site. What will you talk about then?

[SeekLiberty]

Originally Posted by SeekLiberty View Post
(The only way you could get banned is by spamming disinfo, porn, or advertising.)


Translation:

Disagree with any 'truther' theories of 9/11 and you are outa there.

Good luck with your forum SL. I won't be visiting, but I sincerely hope you are successful in creating a forum friendly to people who share your agenda.

Thank you if you meant that sincerely.

My "agenda" is FREEDOM. Others share that too. With Freedom, there has to be Truth and Free discussion to go with it.

What bothers me about you, and a few others here is the taking of a statement, and then spinning it ... like you did above ... to make it look like I have some kind of evil purpose. Your "translation" of what I meant is not true in ANY sense, and it is disinfo itself.

I don't have a problem with anybody disagreeing or debating anybody on my forums on ANY issue, 9/11 or not. What I have a problem with is SPAMMING. THAT is the key word.

For example:

For awhile there, whenever I and others posted something about 9/11 in the "hot topics" forum, jaredR26 would spam with the same "warning" message after each post. To repeatedly post the exact same message all over the topic threads is spamming in my book. That, I won't tolerate.

I also have a problem with moderators giving warning messages and banning people for no legitimate reason like what happened to me here. It helped motivate me to start a new forum so I thank them for that. ;)

Ron Paul Freedom Forums now has a "reputation" system, somewhat like ebays, which will help the members monitor themselves. This way, members can quickly see one's reputation (and add or subtract to it), and also look at the comments posted on that members' reputation.

I'm the last person who wants to "dictate" on the forums. The whole point of why I started them is to have true, uninhibited Free Speech on any matter. I even have a "f%*k you" smilie face that members can use in their posts. :eek:

I believe in the tempestuous sea of Liberty. So I want Ron Paul Freedom Forums to be a living example of that. I believe that's what Ron Paul would want ... no censorship.

Anyone can disagree there. Just don't SPAM! :)

- SL

PS: As a truth advocate, (I call myself a 9/11 skeptic when that's the subject we're on), I will not only disagree with the critics but I'll even disagree with the "truthers" (whatever a "truther" is, lol. For example, I don't buy into nuke, pod or no plane/different plane hypotheses.

[SeanEdwards]

What bothers me about you, and a few others here is the taking of a statement, and then spinning it ... like you did above ... to make it look like I have some kind of evil purpose. Your "translation" of what I meant is not true in ANY sense, and it is disinfo itself.



I didn't mean to imply any evil purpose. It's just been my experience that you and others on this forum have repeatedly labeled any dissent with your theories as paid disinformation. You complain about people labeling your opinions "whacky conspiracy theories", and yet you are relentless in labeling dissenting opinions as the work of "paid government disinformation shills". I find that hypocritical, and that's why I expect you would not tolerate anyone pointing out holes in your theories on your forum.

But I am sincere in wishing you well with your project. I just don't feel it's a place where my opinions would be welcome or respected. But of course I respect your right to administer your website in any manner you like.

[SeekLiberty]

I didn't mean to imply any evil purpose. It's just been my experience that you and others on this forum have repeatedly labeled any dissent with your theories as paid disinformation. You complain about people labeling your opinions "whacky conspiracy theories", and yet you are relentless in labeling dissenting opinions as the work of "paid government disinformation shills". I find that hypocritical, and that's why I expect you would not tolerate anyone pointing out holes in your theories on your forum.

But I am sincere in wishing you well with your project. I just don't feel it's a place where my opinions would be welcome or respected. But of course I respect your right to administer your website in any manner you like.

Then thank you. I appreciate it.

My main argument and dissent here has most ALWAYS been about the right to talk about ANY issue we choose without being constantly harassed with the "you'll hurt Ron Paul's campaign" chant which, IMO, that argument was/is B.S, and second, the harassment was unbelievable. So bad that lies were told.

Many did not feel safe speaking out on their own opinions such as BirdLady. She, for the most part, left because she felt harassed out of here. I've never tried to harass somebody into silence. NEVER. Though I was eventually harassed into silence with the punishment of getting banned for 24-hours, and not being able to post a message about finding 121 floor trusses which was supposedly "distasteful" to the silencers.

I can't operate very well in an atmosphere like that ... fearing if my post is going to be "acceptable" or not. So my goal is to create a safe atmosphere of true Free Speech for EVERYBODY. That includes the opinions of the critics of 9/11 truth. Both sides NEED to be debated so we get closer to the Truth.

So everybody's opinions are welcome. :)

- SL

[DjLoTi]

SL, I wish you best of luck. I'm starting my own forum @ ronpaulradio.com as well, but it's not finished yet. Soon it will be.

[SeekLiberty]

SL, I wish you best of luck. I'm starting my own forum @ ronpaulradio.com as well, but it's not finished yet. Soon it will be.

Thanks. And that's awesome! I've been to your site before. It looks great! IMO, we need to obliterate America with Ron Paul websites! :) There's plenty of room for growth for everybody.

Keep up the great work!

- SL

[Mom4Ron]

"(The only way you could get banned is by spamming disinfo, porn, or advertising.) "

Does that mean that we can't come to your forum and advertise for our forums?

[WannaBfree]

My prayers have been answered! Thank you SeekLiberty! Finally a forum that's in tune with Ron Paul's philosophy! I hope all the people who got fed up with this forum will find it. I'll contact Birdlady via her website (she discovered the Failor-McCain connection as well as the Romney-Straw Poll auditor connection). And HQ who is aware of the policies here. Good luck with it and see you there!

[Wendi]

How many times do we have to see advertisements for this?

[Wendi]

Finally a forum that's in tune with Ron Paul's philosophy! Ron Paul does not believe 9/11 was an inside job and has stated this many times.

[WannaBfree]

Ron Paul does not believe 9/11 was an inside job and has stated this many times.

yes, I am aware that RP has stated that. I was referring to RP's philosophy of the benefits of freedom, personal liberty and freedom of expression.

[ARealConservative]

yes, I am aware that RP has stated that. I was referring to RP's philosophy of the benefits of freedom, personal liberty and freedom of expression.

he believes in property rights - yet the creator of that forum complains when property owners use their property in the manner they wish.

but heck - if it allows for a drop in hot topic type postings here, then kudos to him.

[constituent]

areal...

the property owners haven't given seek any problems, but several mods have...


ROCK ON RONPAULFREEDOMFORUMS.COM

the place for free people.... and the features are bad ass! mucho functionality.... instead of naysaying, check it out.. what do you have to lose?

i like ronpaulforums.com, but the moderation has gotten out of hand, that's why if you notice the times that messages are posted the standard went from being like 6/minute a month or so ago, to one every six minutes most the time...

there is a reason for this. unfortunately it has splintered many of the folks who made this place a fun place to engage in intellectual discourse both directly and indirectly related to the paul campaign.... it was great, while it lasted.

perhaps there will be a return to normalcy someday, but the election is upon us now... so...

i'm preparing several posts to go drop over there b/c i'd like to see a much higher standard of discussion at the freedomforums and believe that it will be that way simply because of the individuals who have chosen to begin feedbacking over there... once i get a few base posts up, that's where i'll be for conversing w/ my fellow

freedom fighters... the remnant, as ron paul said yesterday in his AWESOME! speech.

[ARealConservative]

areal...

the property owners haven't given seek any problems, but several mods have...


yet they remain moderators...................

[Wendi]

^^ Well Josh isn't superman. Instead of complaining we could offer to help him out...

[constituent]

i don't like to impose myself. this is josh's property after all.

[WannaBfree]

he believes in property rights - yet the creator of that forum complains when property owners use their property in the manner they wish.

but heck - if it allows for a drop in hot topic type postings here, then kudos to him.

Sure, if people believe a forum is their private property. If they believe that it is a public forum, they may feel otherwise, as I believe SeekLiberty does.

Therefore I didn't post a very important financial news story here about a possible economic crash in the coming weeks as it references the unusual increase in the number of put options (a bet that stocks will go down) on United and American Airlines (only) right before the 911 attacks. I personally feel it is a important story as a bankrupt RP supporter is a less efficient one. But as you know, many here believe that if a person talks about the most important event of this century, it means that RP believes that 911 was an inside job and we will lose the campaign because of it.

For me personally, when a thread was allowed to run until I posted information debunking what many were saying in regard to the protest of the Diebold machines, and when immediately after my post the thread is moved to the free speech dungeon and then LOCKED, it is a very bad sign. I guess some others felt the same as it was the last I've seen of BirdLady and PatriotOne, whose intelligent and informative posts I miss very much.

[leipo]

I won't be visiting, but I sincerely hope you are successful in creating a forum friendly to people who share your agenda.

I'd like to add that i think this is a great idea and i hope truthers will follow his example.

[ARealConservative]

Sure, if people believe a forum is their private property. If they believe that it is a public forum, they may feel otherwise, as I believe SeekLiberty does.

This site is clearly private property.

[fluoridatedbrainsoup]

The free market will sort this one out. I applaud seekliberty for taking the initiative-

I'm joined up and it makes logical sense because, what with my name 'fluoridatedbrainsoup' I'm already seen as a "troofer".

[Wyurm]

I can't go there because of the "no porn" clause. I feel that restricts my freedom of speech.

Sorry, in all seriousness, I wish you the best of luck.

[Cowlesy]

i can't find this forum anymore....what happened?

[Brett]

Ron Paul does not believe 9/11 was an inside job and has stated this many times.

This.

We are not helping Ron Paul by tying his name to something he does not endorse nor believe.

[Dieseler]

I see Zombies again.

[FrankRep]

Looks like http://www.ronpaulfoum.com is gone as well.

Ron Paul Forums win!

[angelatc]

Looks like http://www.ronpaulfoum.com is gone as well.

Ron Paul Forums win!

Still here: http://www.ronpaulforum.com/

[Old Ducker]

The link doesn't work for me. Rather than dividing this community, why don't the mods just make a subforum for truther threads, as was recently done with religion?

[Anti Federalist]

i can't find this forum anymore....what happened?

If you wanted to get into wrestling, the name you'd need would be:

The Resurrector

:D

Be nice to see some of the old timers back on when RP starts his 2012 run.;)

[pcosmar]

The link doesn't work for me. Rather than dividing this community, why don't the mods just make a subforum for truther threads, as was recently done with religion?

This thread is from back in 2007.

[Anti Federalist]

The link doesn't work for me. Rather than dividing this community, why don't the mods just make a subforum for truther threads, as was recently done with religion?

//facepalm//

[Brett]

Hey guys, I think this post is old.

[pcosmar]

Hey guys, I think this post is old.

DUH
Ya think?

[dannno]

It's amazing how unobservant anti-truthers can be.

Thanks for bumping this Cowlesy.

[Cowlesy]

I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself with this one. :)

[Anti Federalist]

I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself with this one. :)

Bastich.

I might have to dust off a RickRoll for that.:D

[Dieseler]

http://www.gamegum.com/game/2262/zombie-creator/

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.gamegum.com/game/2262/zombie-creator/

For killn' me some zombies.

http://www.zombiereportingcenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/zombieweapon.jpg

[FrankRep]

Still here: http://www.ronpaulforum.com/

I misspelled it. Oops.