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Akus
06-14-2008, 08:52 PM
I don't want to hear "because he stands for freedom" stuff....

I more mean: why do you support him? Why do you support freedom and following the Constitution? What is your gain from a free society? Please do not dismiss this as an absurd question.

I firmly believe that freedom is pointless if an individual, the each "I" that reads this, doesn't know who he is and why is he that way. So who are you? Why are you that way. What do you want to pursue in this marathon knows to most as "your life"?

You can say that this is not so much a "why you support Ron Paul" question as "why are you here?" and "what is the meaning of life" question. So be it. I would like to know what higher goals of yours he answered to and why are you higher goals these and not something else.....

I hope I'm making sense.

Kludge
06-14-2008, 08:55 PM
Because I believe in the philosophy of liberty (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf), and almost every belief Dr. Paul has stems from the very same.

I seek to live my life by my own standards, be able to keep what I earn and actually own something.

To know that the government currently owns my life and my property is very disheartening. It's a feeling I'd like to shake off. I know that if elected, Dr. Paul would do all in his power to make that possible.

Jeremy
06-14-2008, 08:57 PM
I just want to live in the Land of the Free. Our ancestors had the opportunity... I want the same thing. I want people around the world to dream about coming to this land again. Where government doesn't take advantage of its people. A place that can lead by example to make those countries better as well. Where my friends aren't sent off to their deaths and where I can make a few bucks without having to give it over to big brother. One day I could start a family in this land, and I will know that they are living in the greatest place on earth.

Paulitical Correctness
06-14-2008, 09:12 PM
My family's been through an unsuccessful, eye-opening, arduous battle against our corrupt judicial system for the past several years. I'll shamefully admit that I was severely depressed and contemplating drastic measures to find solace. Then I discovered Ron Paul. In an indirect way, he kind of saved my life. If not saved, he definitely allowed me to switch gears. He gave me hope where there was none, the spirit to fight when I was defeated, and he unearthed millions like me. I think that plays a huge role in the optimism, not just for me - knowing our numbers aren't so small any longer.

Anyway, the sheer honesty and demeanor of the man had me drawn to him from the very beginning, the fact that his message and philosophies match accordingly were just extra. Since then, I've learned a lot about politics, truth, morality, and myself - I'm a better person because of him.

satchelmcqueen
06-14-2008, 09:28 PM
i support paul because he is so honest. i also want to just live my life and keep MY money and be left alone without all the new laws . my country needs to take care of OUR people, not the world. we need to hold our constitution up. paul has nothing to hide and i like that.

haigh
06-14-2008, 09:36 PM
I support him because I've been a libertarian for decades and Ron Paul is the best thing to happen to freedom loving individuals since Ayn Rand.

amy31416
06-14-2008, 09:50 PM
i support paul because he is so honest. i also want to just live my life and keep MY money and be left alone without all the new laws . my country needs to take care of OUR people, not the world. we need to hold our constitution up. paul has nothing to hide and i like that.

That's close enough to my reasons to second this.

newbitech
06-14-2008, 09:50 PM
thats easy man, he is the first politician in my lifetime that actually spoke to me and for me. By that I mean his message is genuine and sincere, he backs up his words with actions. I had no problem finding his message despite all the forces that were stacked against it. In other words, he is the type of leader that I have been looking for. Not only does he speak truth to power, but he has shown by his actions that if he was given that power he would distribute back to where it came, refined, tested, and backed with the authority of all of our inalienable rights.

Jeremy
06-14-2008, 09:52 PM
I support him because I've been a libertarian for decades and Ron Paul is the best thing to happen to freedom loving individuals since Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand? Blech.

VRP08
06-14-2008, 09:53 PM
I'm here because I want things to change. I want more personal freedoms. I want small businesses to do better, I want medical marijuana to be legal. I want honest politicians who will give more than they take. I am scared for my children, I fear that those who rule everything will ruin our children's life's to the fullest. Many aspects of my life brought me here, it would be hard to pick just one. But mainly, to answer you question, I'm a mother and just like many other mothers out there, we want our children to have better life's in general.

Not sure if this is what you were looking for but there you have it. ;o)

Kludge
06-14-2008, 09:53 PM
Ayn Rand? Blech.

http://www.chatfest.co.uk/chat/images/smilies/edo/edo-vomit.gif on you for bleching at Ayn Rand.

Jeremy
06-14-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.chatfest.co.uk/chat/images/smilies/edo/edo-vomit.gif on you for bleching at Ayn Rand.

http://www.dreamstime.com/annoyed-smiley-icon-thumb32717.jpg

CoreyBowen999
06-14-2008, 09:57 PM
I support him because before I start paying taxes later on, I want to know where those go. I want to know that they are actually going to somewhere useful and not corrupted. I don't want to pay taxes for some social security I won't ever get. I'm tired of families in my community saddend with a death from some foreign war we shouldn't be in. I don't want to look back and say to my children that I did nothing to stop the decline of our once great nation.

Anti Federalist
06-14-2008, 09:58 PM
I'll use words lifted shamelessly from the comments at HuffBlow.

First the anti-freedom argument:


That's my problem with the LP - its a great idea, but impractical.
Sort of like Communism was a great idea in theory, but the practical results didn't work out so well...

Sadly, as much as people hate it - you need a central beaurocratic element to manage things like infrastructure, hospitals, social security, pensions, voting registration, etc..
How do you keep big cities running efficiently without some sort of government?
How much 'help' do you give to people who can't help themselves?
Would it be politically acceptable to let people die who haven't the means or ability to help themselves?
What's an acceptable amount of intervention, and how much govt would you need to cover the basics
In a country with 300 million people, you can't rely on people going it alone.

Well, you could, I guess - but it would just be anarchy with property rights....

As of yet, I haven't heard any concrete, practical policies from the LP as to how they would address these problems. They good with the Big Idea - and I agree with a lot of the theory - but its the Small Stuff that gets you every time.

The "blast the moron out of the water" response:


By trying to pose these questions you are in fact exposing the illogical idea of government. The pseudo-answer of "the government will do it" is a total non-answer " in fact, it is an anti-answer, in that it provides the illusion of an answer where one does not in fact exist.

You blatantly ignore the problem of "infinite regression". If human beings are in general too irrational and selfish to work out the challenges of social organization in a productive and positive manner, then they are far too irrational and selfish to be given the monopolistic violence of state power, or vote for their leaders.

Your core fantasy of "government" is the idea there exists a group who are so wise, so benevolent, so omniscient and so incorruptible that we should turn over to them the education of our children, the preservation of our elderly, the salvation of the poor, the provision of vital services, the healing of the sick, the defense of the realm and of property, the administration of justice, the punishment of criminals, and the regulation of virtually every aspect of a massive, infinitely complex and ever-changing social and economic system. These living man-gods have such perfect knowledge and perfect wisdom that we should hand them weapons of mass destruction, and the endless power to tax, imprison and print money " and nothing but good, plenty and virtue will result.

This is utter nonsense and Libertarianism exposes this fallacy.

In Ron Paul's own words, "I don't want to run your life or the world, the constitution doesn't give me the authority and I wouldn't know how to or want to even if I did".

He said it, and thirty years of public records coupled with the man's own intrinsic honesty proves he means it.

Government, in all it's forms, over all the millenia, is death.

It is choking bio warfare plague, chemical warfare, neutron bombs, radiation sickness, the lime covered mass grave, the cremation oven, the killing fields.

It is evil, it attracts the most evil of people to serve it, and until such time as humanity sees fit to eliminate the very concept from it's collective will, then it had damn well better be bound, shackled and chained down by a constitution that is immutable and iron clad.

Failure to do so will result in the remnants of humanity poring over 5 or 6 billion corpses and wondering what the hell went wrong.

I understand this at an instinctive level, the founders understood this, prophets, messiahs sages and poets understood this.

Ron Paul understands this.

And that's why I support him.

Conza88
06-14-2008, 10:12 PM
Because I want to run my life the way I want to, without harming anyone else... and I should be able to do that...

THAT is FREEDOM.

yongrel
06-14-2008, 10:13 PM
The complimentary toaster oven.

DFF
06-14-2008, 10:17 PM
I support RP because of what the Anti Federalist quoted and said.

MsDoodahs
06-14-2008, 10:21 PM
Yep, what AntiFederalist said pretty much sums it up.

:)

LibertyEagle
06-14-2008, 11:00 PM
Because I want to be left the heck alone and to keep the fruits of my own labor.

mediahasyou
06-14-2008, 11:05 PM
Great Post Anti Fed.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
06-14-2008, 11:09 PM
I support him because he stands for change.


Sorry I couldn't resist.

Nirvikalpa
06-14-2008, 11:09 PM
Because Ron Paul was the only one that would leave me the hell alone :D

wd4freedom
06-14-2008, 11:11 PM
Rare to find any politician who actually votes based upon his principled beliefs.

The fact that his constituents actually kept him office over the years is pretty astonishing, given that the US is significantly socialist in its actual governmental practices.

hotbrownsauce
06-14-2008, 11:19 PM
The things Dr. Paul speaks of allows for us to be the freest people with the most protection.

I for one am very proud of our nation and its roots and what it stood for because my ancestors fought in ever declared war since the battle for freedom. My relative Francis Scott Key wrote the star spangled banner while another ancestor General James fought at the battle of north point and died at the same time Francis Scott Key was writing the poem. There is a statue of James in Baltimore Maryland. (His father William was also a general but I don't know if he fought or not during this time.)

So if you ask me, Ron Paul represents what America was and supposed to be. My ancestors fought for it, I believe in it, and I'll be damned if others change it.

countrykidz4freedom
06-15-2008, 01:00 AM
In the primaries, I am ashamed to say, I voted for someone else. That person put on a false front, and fooled a lot of christians. I hadn't heard hardly anything about Ron Paul, at that time. Then after the primaries were over here in my state, I found out the truth about the candidate I voted for. I was very upset at being duped like that. It made me determined to look closely at all the candidates, and also check their voting history in order to see what they really stood for.

Ron Paul was the only one who came up impeccable, and consistently truthful. I started reading and searching for more info on him, the more I searched the more I knew he was the one I wanted for my next president. Then I decided to get involved and became a delegate-seeing what I saw firsthand at the meetings and conventions, made me know things were in far worse shape than I suspected. In the few debates I saw of him, I felt he outshone all the other candidates from both parties. I have come to love Ron Paul for what he stands for.

I was able to meet him in person at the rally before our convention, and was impressed all over again, because he took out time to come, (he attended 2 rallies that day) and the candidate presumed to be nominated never showed at all. Getting to meet him and shake his hand was the best part of everything. He doesn't place himself above us, but instead one of us-I think that is the real reason everyone loves him. I saw him reach out and hug a little preschooler in close for a family photo, he did it so naturally -it touched my heart.

He doesn't put on any airs or anything, he is real, genuine, and stands for truth and honor. That is what our country is starved to death for-we are sick of voting for people we do not believe in-most of all I love Ron Paul for completely opening my eyes to the truth. God bless Ron Paul, he has inspired me more than any other political candidate, ever, in my whole life. ( and I'm not so young)

V4Vendetta
06-15-2008, 02:01 AM
I supported him because he wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve, give the power back to congress, have some kind of commodity backed currency.

He also wanted to abolish the Un-Constitutional Income Tax and replace it with nothing!

jbuttell
06-15-2008, 02:38 AM
Because I believe in the philosophy of liberty (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf), and almost every belief Dr. Paul has stems from the very same.

I seek to live my life by my own standards, be able to keep what I earn and actually own something.

To know that the government currently owns my life and my property is very disheartening. It's a feeling I'd like to shake off. I know that if elected, Dr. Paul would do all in his power to make that possible.

Well said... I feel very much the same way.

Truth Warrior
06-15-2008, 05:10 AM
Charisma of course, plain and simple, what else! :rolleyes:

:D

coyote_sprit
06-15-2008, 05:13 AM
Let me act a little like an Obama support.....

"Why do you like Ron Paul?"
"His policies."
"Which one in particular?"
"All of them."

Unlike an Obama supporter I can actually name Ron Paul policies but I just love them all.

chowdy
06-15-2008, 05:33 AM
Let me act a little like an Obama support.....

"Why do you like Ron Paul?"
"His policies."
"Which one in particular?"
"All of them."

Unlike an Obama supporter I can actually name Ron Paul policies but I just love them all.

We can name each policy we agree with and derive their philosophical justification through reason, as well as provide evidence for their real-world efficacy.

We have reason on our side, and that is why Ron Paul has my support.

thehittgirl
06-15-2008, 05:48 AM
The first thing that attracted me to Dr Paul as a candidate was the fact that he was against the war. I always knew the war was wrong and the word LIAR came to me as I watched GWB speaking about it....

After I signed up for meetup, the organizer gave me a DVD informing about the NAU. I got all fired up then...because I was mad about it. I'm a truther so everything had come to me at that moment...my beliefs that the NWO used 911 and Iraq to destroy civil liberties and sovereignty. I couldn't stand the thought of losing my country as we know it.

Then it became personal for me because I have two sons...one being less than 5 years of having to register for service. I don't want them fighting a senseless war. I who can be very unemotional, can cry when I think about our soldiers out there the ones who signed up because they thought they were defending our freedoms. It ticks me off to no end.

Truth Warrior
06-15-2008, 05:51 AM
"We shall get nowhere until we start by recognizing that political behavior is largely non-rational, that the world is suffering from some kind of mental disease which must be diagnosed before it can be cured. " -- George Orwell

pcosmar
06-15-2008, 06:14 AM
Hey guys, can you tell me why you support(ed) Ron Paul?

Enlightened Self Interest.
I had some personal experiences that led me to start researching my rights( or lack thereof) and Ron Paul's name came up.
I was learning of some of his proposed bills when he started exploring a run. As I learned his positions and history of defending the Constitution, he became the only choice.
I want my rights back.
I want the country (that I was taught about as a child) back.
None of the others offer this.

Jason726
06-15-2008, 06:33 AM
In the primaries, I am ashamed to say, I voted for someone else. That person put on a false front, and fooled a lot of christians. I hadn't heard hardly anything about Ron Paul, at that time. Then after the primaries were over here in my state, I found out the truth about the candidate I voted for. I was very upset at being duped like that. It made me determined to look closely at all the candidates, and also check their voting history in order to see what they really stood for.

Ron Paul was the only one who came up impeccable, and consistently truthful. I started reading and searching for more info on him, the more I searched the more I knew he was the one I wanted for my next president. Then I decided to get involved and became a delegate-seeing what I saw firsthand at the meetings and conventions, made me know things were in far worse shape than I suspected. In the few debates I saw of him, I felt he outshone all the other candidates from both parties. I have come to love Ron Paul for what he stands for.

I was able to meet him in person at the rally before our convention, and was impressed all over again, because he took out time to come, (he attended 2 rallies that day) and the candidate presumed to be nominated never showed at all. Getting to meet him and shake his hand was the best part of everything. He doesn't place himself above us, but instead one of us-I think that is the real reason everyone loves him. I saw him reach out and hug a little preschooler in close for a family photo, he did it so naturally -it touched my heart.

He doesn't put on any airs or anything, he is real, genuine, and stands for truth and honor. That is what our country is starved to death for-we are sick of voting for people we do not believe in-most of all I love Ron Paul for completely opening my eyes to the truth. God bless Ron Paul, he has inspired me more than any other political candidate, ever, in my whole life. ( and I'm not so young)

Your original vote has got to be the Huckster, correct? It was Chuck Norris that pulled you to him. Don't lie.