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Perry
06-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Make a political prediction

#1
Future president Barack Obama will help to clear the way for individuals not born as United States citizens to run for president thereby opening the door for California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to enter the race.
This will of course be led by a media onslaught talking about all the brave and patriotic new Americans who were not born in our nation but fought and died for America and anyone who apposes them is racist and unpatriotic.

#2
Ron Paul will run for President in 2011.
(That is only three years people!)

Aratus
06-14-2008, 02:02 PM
electorally 269 verses 269 goes our red/blue map come this fall...

Aratus
06-14-2008, 02:03 PM
unless...

Kludge
06-14-2008, 02:06 PM
Obama supporters will run ad hominem attacks by TV implying McCain is no different from Admiral Stockdale. They will be funny.

Truth Warrior
06-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Same Old Shit!

kombayn
06-14-2008, 02:10 PM
Barack Obama will win in a landslide victory getting almost 70% of the popular vote and a 3rd Party candidate will win a state on the electoral college map (most likely... Montana!)

Kludge
06-14-2008, 02:12 PM
Utah will run a successful write-in campaign for Mitt Romney.

kombayn
06-14-2008, 02:17 PM
^I'll one up you. Mitt Romney will make another flip-flop before the election.

haigh
06-14-2008, 02:17 PM
Bob Barr and the LP will set a new record for LP vote totals.
The party's porn, prostitution, and drug factions will be very upset.

IPSecure
06-14-2008, 02:32 PM
False Flag Nukes will go off before the election, Bush will declare martial law, no election.

- Just my opinion... You asked...

Aratus
06-14-2008, 02:33 PM
since huckabee is a talking head on Fox news, i think romney becomes mccain's veep choise...
and then he flipflops again... and again... [as usual]

Hiki
06-14-2008, 02:43 PM
USA is going to be in war with Iran.

pcosmar
06-14-2008, 06:46 PM
I made my prediction in another thread.
I think Obama will win. (not my wish, but a prediction)
I expect trouble. Though I wish that this country was past the racial issues, it sadly is not.

I expect unrest/riots followed by martial law and a suspension of the Constitution.
I truly hope I am wrong.

Anti Federalist
06-14-2008, 07:26 PM
False Flag Nukes will go off before the election, Bush will declare martial law, no election.

- Just my opinion... You asked...

Add food shortages and fuel rationing.

Otherwise, ya' beat me to it.

PDD 51 will get signed in October.

Crowish
06-14-2008, 08:59 PM
What pcosmar said.

:(

haigh
06-14-2008, 09:14 PM
No war with Iran.
No food shortages
No fuel shortages
Average standard of living on a steady decline but the vast majority get by OK.

I lived through the late 70's when there was a buy gold furor, inflation hysteria, and a survivalist movement; and then the huge savings and loan crisis of the 80's. There is always a flock of chicken-little's and they have always been wrong. They grossly underestimate the resilience of the American people and this economy. I also believe that the IT infrastructure now in place in America allows businesses to much more effectively adjust prices against rising costs, adding significantly to the degree of resiliency in todays economy. From a standard of living point of view America is headed down while many other countries are headed up.

Fox McCloud
06-14-2008, 09:50 PM
-Fed Raises interest rates
-economy and stock market are put in a tail-spin
-some 'event' will happen, and Bush will suspend elections
-things will continue to decline until we're invaded by a foreign nation--a "North American Union" is ushered in as a prevention against this.
-The NAU will be crushed, and dominated by foreign troops for a time--eventually, however, they'll be driven out.

Assuming Bush doesn't pull anything funny:

I honestly think McCain will get elected this Fall...in some way, I hope Obama gets elected, just to show that Democrats are no better than Republicans...if McCain gets the Presidency, it may be well impossible to ever turn the Republican party around (however, if Obama gets elected, Republicans might start ACTING like Republicans).

Anti Federalist
06-14-2008, 10:26 PM
No war with Iran.
No food shortages
No fuel shortages
Average standard of living on a steady decline but the vast majority get by OK.

I lived through the late 70's when there was a buy gold furor, inflation hysteria, and a survivalist movement; and then the huge savings and loan crisis of the 80's. There is always a flock of chicken-little's and they have always been wrong. They grossly underestimate the resilience of the American people and this economy. I also believe that the IT infrastructure now in place in America allows businesses to much more effectively adjust prices against rising costs, adding significantly to the degree of resiliency in todays economy. From a standard of living point of view America is headed down while many other countries are headed up.

You contradict yourself.

If the "chicken littles" are wrong, why are US standards of living going down?

And there are a couple of major differences between the meltdowns of the 70s and now.

In 1975 we were still a creditor nation, we still produced 70 percent of our energy domestically and we weren't broke.

That is the single largest "shoe yet to fall", the 10 trillion dollar bill sitting on the desk and the 60 trillion one that is in the mail.

When a government defaults on it's bills or tries to print money to pay them, real real bad things start to happen.

And those are the only choices left.

yongrel
06-14-2008, 10:28 PM
I will wonder what a "poltical" prediction is.

Anti Federalist
06-14-2008, 10:42 PM
I will wonder what a "poltical" prediction is.

Let me try...

A prediction of things political, as opposed to, a prediction of which celebrity is going to rehab next, or who's gonna win the stupor bowl.

I'll take that toaster oven back now, thank you.:cool:

Allen72289
06-14-2008, 10:50 PM
1. Possible killing of Obomba

2. WWIII

3. One world religion

4. massive murders

5. Draft


6. awakening of the sheeple

7. nau

asgardshill
06-14-2008, 11:27 PM
1. Hillary Clinton invites Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, and over 200 superdelegates who attended the Democratic National Convention to take a group walk with her in Fort Marcy Park. Obama, Dean, and 37 of the superdelegates accept because they are all secretly taking the prescription drug Chantix (which has the unfortunate side effect of causing some users to become suicidal). Three days before the group walk, gun stores in Virginia and Maryland report a run on their stocks of hunting rifles and associated ammunition, and the airlines report a small but significant rise in reservations on flights terminating in Zimbabwe and Venezuela. Two days after the group walk, Fort Marcy Park is closed to the public and becomes an EPA Superfund site due to an unexplained rise in the level of lead contamination.

2. Seventeen entertainers, politicians, and captains of industry will threaten to leave the United States and live overseas if the candidate of their choice doesn't win the Presidential election on November 4, 2008. On November 5, none of these people actually leave, claiming instead that they were misquoted and taken out of context.

3. To future historians, the three words which best sum up the US Presidential elections of 2008 will be "Jello", "jockstrap", and "Rogaine."

Omphfullas Zamboni
06-14-2008, 11:41 PM
No war with Iran.
No food shortages
No fuel shortages
Average standard of living on a steady decline but the vast majority get by OK.

I lived through the late 70's when there was a buy gold furor, inflation hysteria, and a survivalist movement; and then the huge savings and loan crisis of the 80's. There is always a flock of chicken-little's and they have always been wrong. They grossly underestimate the resilience of the American people and this economy. I also believe that the IT infrastructure now in place in America allows businesses to much more effectively adjust prices against rising costs, adding significantly to the degree of resiliency in todays economy. From a standard of living point of view America is headed down while many other countries are headed up.

Hello,

I second this prediction. Yet, the statement of the original poster stirs an interesting question: in all seriousness, how much of a "Chicken Little" is Congressman Paul? Does he forecast doom tomorrow? Possibly in the next 20 years? Over the course of a century?

Thank you for your thoughts. Have a wonderful evening.

Sincerely,
Omphfullas Zamboni

Fox McCloud
06-15-2008, 12:44 AM
Hello,

I second this prediction. Yet, the statement of the original poster stirs an interesting question: in all seriousness, how much of a "Chicken Little" is Congressman Paul? Does he forecast doom tomorrow? Possibly in the next 20 years? Over the course of a century?

Thank you for your thoughts. Have a wonderful evening.

Sincerely,
Omphfullas Zamboni

Ron is a very positive person, and well...like G. Edward Griffin and Alex Jones, they'll always stay somewhat positive until it's blatantly obvious the preaching is over and it's time to go into survival/hiding mode.

There's a couple of interviews where Ron has made the comment (though he didn't put a ton of emphasis on it) that it may be too late already.

You also have to keep in mind that he is a believer in Christ--therefore he's more than perfectly aware that there will be a time where it is too late (of course no one knows when this time is), and everything we've worked towards will mean nothing.

He's also directly alluded to the fact that America is on a very moral rocky road, stating "Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society." and later going on "I do believe that God's hand was in the coming together of our nation... don't think the country could have come together without being providential. Just like providentially we may end as well. We may end soon, by God's will."

He fights on because he does not know when that time will come (it could be eons off, or it could be tomorrow), but mark my words--when Ron Paul, Alex, G. Edward Griffin (and a few others), stop talking and start packing, it's too late.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
06-15-2008, 12:54 AM
We're fucked.

nayjevin
06-15-2008, 01:05 AM
* Bob Barr, Pat Buchanan, Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Mark Sanford, and Dennis Kucinich will form a SuperGroup to go on speaking tours and encourage brushfires of liberty worldwide. Danny Glover, Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, John Stossel, Jack Cafferty, Karen Kwiatkowski, and Drew Carey will join them.

* 50 years from now, our children will download their choice of textbooks onto their compu-glasses to learn as they choose. Among the texts included will be several modern day texts that are shipped to Iraqi's by American companies, subsidized by our fascist government -- annotated and footnoted to the hilt -- as a lesson in post 9-11 propaganda.

* Bob Barr will select Ron Paul as his running mate; the LP will finally make the debates - but so will Newt Gingrich (I) and Ralph Nader (G). RP and BB will have the least speaking time.

* Gitmo will close within 18 months.


* Harry Browne will rise from the dead and publish a bestselling book entitled: "I was telling you all this shit 20 years ago... and other musings"

electronicmaji
06-15-2008, 03:24 AM
No War With Iran.
Continued Special Operations Activity in the Middle East in the search for "Terrorists"
No Oil Shortage.
Oil Price top out at between 7 and 10 dollars then slowly fall.
Balanced Budget and troop withdrawal from Iraq provides a substantial boost to the power of the US Dollar returning it to pre 2006 levels.

Social safety nets will be implemented and widely accepted and applauded by the general public as the standard of living for the poor increases greatly.

The Middle Class will pay less taxes and be far happier.

A Brain Drain caused by high income taxes for the rich will be the biggest economic problem in the next 20 years.

Saddly the rich will have nowhere to go as Social Rights and Socialized Healthcare and other Social Systems become standardized in all but the poorest countries.

Eventually the gap between the middle and upper classes will grow smaller and smaller; but the lower classes and the middle class gap will get larger and larger despite excellent services for the poor.

The largest problem for the United States will not be lack of food. It will not be lack of water. It will not be lack of energy or high oil prices.

The largest problem will be crime and problematic youth. Within 20-30 years America will look like England.

Truth Warrior
06-15-2008, 03:54 AM
1. Hillary Clinton invites Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, and over 200 superdelegates who attended the Democratic National Convention to take a group walk with her in Fort Marcy Park. Obama, Dean, and 37 of the superdelegates accept because they are all secretly taking the prescription drug Chantix (which has the unfortunate side effect of causing some users to become suicidal). Three days before the group walk, gun stores in Virginia and Maryland report a run on their stocks of hunting rifles and associated ammunition, and the airlines report a small but significant rise in reservations on flights terminating in Zimbabwe and Venezuela. Two days after the group walk, Fort Marcy Park is closed to the public and becomes an EPA Superfund site due to an unexplained rise in the level of lead contamination.

2. Seventeen entertainers, politicians, and captains of industry will threaten to leave the United States and live overseas if the candidate of their choice doesn't win the Presidential election on November 4, 2008. On November 5, none of these people actually leave, claiming instead that they were misquoted and taken out of context.

3. To future historians, the three words which best sum up the US Presidential elections of 2008 will be "Jello", "jockstrap", and "Rogaine."

Good one! ;) :D

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
06-15-2008, 05:33 AM
Make a political prediction

#1
Future president Barack Obama will help to clear the way for individuals not born as United States citizens to run for president thereby opening the door for California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to enter the race.
This will of course be led by a media onslaught talking about all the brave and patriotic new Americans who were not born in our nation but fought and died for America and anyone who apposes them is racist and unpatriotic.

#2
Ron Paul will run for President in 2011.
(That is only three years people!)

1) I predict that someone in this forum will post a conspiracy involving the death of Tim Russert by the end of the week.

2) I predict that Obama will speak of change while at a zoo. During this time the political zebra will confess that not only is he a white and a black man but he is also a Mexican after which he will immediately sport a cembrero and say the word "cambiar" (change). This will prompt his racist, white grandmother to throw her support to Senator John McCann and the new liberal Republican party.

3) I predict that John McCain will continue to grow his hair long like a shepherd so he can lead the Republican Party like Moses across the political spectrum to become this nations new liberal party.

4) I predict that the Jews and the Arabs will continue hating each other with a passion.

5) I predict that President Bush will declare the state of Ohio a disaster area because he doesn't know the difference between it and Iowa. After the mistake is pointed out to him, President Bush will then declare Idaho a disaster area.

6) I predict that the Libertarians will continue to hate Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt. After Dr. Ron Paul walks across water, the rest of the nation will turn against Abraham Lincoln thus ushering in the Libertarian party to replace the Democratic party as this nations new conservative representative to challenge McCain and his neo liberal Republican party.

haigh
06-15-2008, 10:43 AM
You contradict yourself.

If the "chicken littles" are wrong, why are US standards of living going down?

And there are a couple of major differences between the meltdowns of the 70s and now.

In 1975 we were still a creditor nation, we still produced 70 percent of our energy domestically and we weren't broke.

That is the single largest "shoe yet to fall", the 10 trillion dollar bill sitting on the desk and the 60 trillion one that is in the mail.

When a government defaults on it's bills or tries to print money to pay them, real real bad things start to happen.

And those are the only choices left.

Chicken Little’s speak in cataclysms, a fall in the standard of living won’t happen like a cataclysm.

In 1984 Ron Paul gave a speech, included in ‘A Foreign Policy of Freedom.’ He said the national debt had tripled since 1976, rising from $550 billion to $1.59 trillion. He’s been sounding this alarm for decades. The Federal Reserve has been printing money since the day it was born, nothing new here either.

I'm not arguing this is a good thing, I'm simply saying the preachers of doom and gloom are wishful thinking, and are likely to be disappointed in the lack of drama with which the deterioration unfolds.