TX State convention

[Elwar]

OK, I'm at the state convention. The main part just started.

The few interesting things that have happened so far is that at one of the meetings they decided (or it happened, not sure) that the chair would call someone out of order if he wanted to shut them up. If they are called out of order 3 times they would be escorted out by the cops.

Also the credential committee went last night until 1:45am mainly dealing with nuences county. From what I gathered it didn't go well for the Ron Paul folks.

[AJ Antimony]

It's a GOP convention--nothing EVER goes well for RP folks. Hitler would have an easier time.

[countrykidz4freedom]

Hang in there Texans, don't let them rile you, stay focused, and no matter what, don't get discouraged. At our state convention, we were provoked, attempts were made to get the security officers involved, but ROn Paul supporters are smart, and didn't fall for the tricks. Go Texas!!!!:)

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Also the credential committee went last night until 1:45am mainly dealing with nuences county. From what I gathered it didn't go well for the Ron Paul folks.

What a nice way to weed out any dissent.

"Oh I'm sorry sir, but you don't support the republican candidate we like...so therefore you're not qualified."

[Elwar]

Holy crap. Gov. Perry's voice and speech sounds earily like George Bush along with the awkward pauses when he thinks he's being funny.

[Oyate]

Make us proud Texas.

[OptionsTrader]

Holy crap. Gov. Perry's voice and speech sounds earily like George Bush along with the awkward pauses when he thinks he's being funny.

At the Fort Worth straw poll last year, in August I think, Gov. Perry stated in his speech that it was too bad no Texan is running for president on the Republican ticket. Ron Paul spoke not an hour later on the same god damn stage. I despise neocon Perry.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

At the Fort Worth straw poll last year, in August I think, Gov. Perry stated in his speech that it was too bad no Texan is running for president on the Republican ticket. Ron Paul spoke not an hour later on the same god damn stage.

Wow. What an idiot.

[driller80545]

Yeah, Perry is a good little Bush clone. I wonder if he will cry when he gets left behind.

[MsDoodahs]

Wow. What an idiot.

That wasn't Perry being an idiot, that was Perry being a SNAKE.

:mad:

I was pissed then about it and it STILL makes me :mad: today.

For the record: I DESPISE Rick Perry. :mad::mad:

[libertarian4321]

Perry is so well loved here in Texas that someone burned down the governor's mansion last week.

I'm a Texas Republican, and I never voted for Perry- he's a political whore who will always side with whichever side is most likely to reward him (he's a former Democrat).

[Elwar]

Lt gov got up and gave his speech surprisingly saying he's against the trans Texas coridore which is different from the gov. That got a lot of applause.

It was good though when he brought up his support for the Real ID Act he was given a room full of boos. Sad that a room of your party members is booing you.

[Elwar]

Ron Paul endorsed state chair candidate Paul Peppin just gave a great candidacy speech focussing on liberty and being against the TTC (this is basically the Texas part of the NAFTA superhighway.)

Lots of applause and support.

[AJ Antimony]

Perry is so well loved here in Texas that someone burned down the governor's mansion last week.

I'm a Texas Republican, and I never voted for Perry- he's a political whore who will always side with whichever side is most likely to reward him (he's a former Democrat).

Haha I wouldn't be shocked if he's McCain's running mate!

[Sandra]

So Ron Paul is talking now?

[Elwar]

2nd day...it looks like Ron Paul folks make up about a third of the delegates which means that anything proposed by us is shot down left and right.

[RideTheDirt]

2nd day...it looks like Ron Paul folks make up about a third of the delegates which means that anything proposed by us is shot down left and right.
NICE

[kombayn]

BOO!!! Man I wonder how they'll feel 4 years from now when the masses are much bigger and everyone will be hating on Curious Geor... Err... Barack Obama, that's the time to strike.

[Lucille]

The Jawa Report is liveblogging the TX State Convention (http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/192989.php), and he's doing a terrible job.

He links to three other livebloggers. I think Republic of Dave (http://republicofdave.com/) (a self-professed libertarian) is the better read.

(ETA: Republic of Dave has several previous entries about Paul.)

[bucfish]

We will win this skirmish!, he promised.

Never give up never give in and never quit. We will carry this message on to freedom!

[revolutionary8]

The Jawa Report is liveblogging the TX State Convention (http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/192989.php), and he's doing a terrible job.

He links to three other livebloggers. I think Republic of Dave (http://republicofdave.com/) (a self-professed libertarian) is the better read.

(ETA: Republic of Dave has several previous entries about Paul.)

This is interesting from the ROD:

10:41pm - Even Republicans Like to PartySo after things wrapped up I got a quick steak and spent some time at a party hosted by the nice folks at RightOnline.com a new site whose purpose I’m not entirely clear on, except that I think it’s going to be a conservative online magazine of some sort. It’s a new project of Americans for Prosperity. They’re sponsoring a blogger area in the exhibit hall and setting up interviews with candidates and officials. I’m going to talk to them some more tomorrow and see if I can figure out exactly what it is they’re actually planning to do with their new website.
I went to that site and it is basically a Rick Perry Propaganda page. RP delegates need to hound them with sanity. lol
How the HELL anyone could possibly support Rick Perry is beyond my comprehension, and I am worried they will pick him as McCain's running mate.

[BlutStein]

At the Fort Worth straw poll last year, in August I think, Gov. Perry stated in his speech that it was too bad no Texan is running for president on the Republican ticket. Ron Paul spoke not an hour later on the same god damn stage. I despise neocon Perry.

Yeah, I remember that. A number of insulted laughs and boos came up from the crowd when he said that. I personally got shhh'd by a blue hair lady who looked at me like I had just boo'd at Jesus. That was fun.

[Join The Paul Side]

It's a GOP convention--nothing EVER goes well for RP folks. Hitler would have an easier time.


QFT

[asgardshill]

So whatever became of that fellow who was allegedly arrested at the convention yesterday? What was the charge? What did he allegedly do? There was a thread about it, but I can't find it now.

[ronpaulhawaii]

So whatever became of that fellow who was allegedly arrested at the convention yesterday? What was the charge? What did he allegedly do? There was a thread about it, but I can't find it now.

Still no updates, which is surprising considering the topic...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=142843

[asgardshill]

Still no updates, which is surprising considering the topic...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=142843

Thanks for the link - couldn't find it to save my life. Surprising indeed. I hope it was just a misunderstanding and the guy wasn't actually arrested.

[IPSecure]

Friday, June 13, 2008
The Gatekeeper (http://www.rightintexas.com/2008/06/gatekeeper.html)

The focus of controversy in the RPT State Convention has been and continues to be the Credentials Committee, with more challenges at any time since 1976 when the Reagan conservatives came into the party and asserted their right to participate. In spite of that record number of challenges, the committee did not convene until Wednesday while other substantive committees began on Monday.

The focus of the committee continued to be the egregious actions of Nueces County Party. The Credentials Committee chairman, Judge Diaz, offered his committee's report during the general session of the Convention on Thursday afternoon after the convention was called to order about 4pm. When members of the Credentials Committee presented a minority report to the chairman, seeking to bring the issue of the rump convention and the challenge regarding Nueces County Chairman to the full convention under RPT Rule 24, he decreed it not a valid minority report and thus the convention was not allowed to hear the issue.

The Permanent Credentials Committee, of which I was a member, asked the chairman for an explanation. He said that a minority report must be presented before the end of the committee meeting, which is not supported by the text of Rule 24. He also stated that it could not be valid because the report included the rump convention of Nueces County, which the Credentials Committee had no authority to address. How is it the Credentials Committee had no authority to even hear the case of the delegates who had determined that the original Nueces County Convention was illegal because of rules violations and thus held their own convention? It was, the chairman explained, because he had determined that the Credentials Committee had no "jurisdiction" to hear the case. The Credentials Committee had no jurisdiction to hear the case of a rump convention and determine if their reasons for doing so were legitimate?

The Chairman explained that he was "a gatekeeper" and he listened to the preliminary testimony of the rump convention delegates and determined that it should not be heard! His reasoning was the delegates of the rump convention had not notified each member of the original delegation that they were being challenged. This, indeed, is the rule for individual challenges, but in the 20 years of my experience in the party, this has never been the case for dealing with a rump convention. Such challenges are usually resolved by hearing the testimony of each group and then making a determination of which group should be seated, based on whether or not the original convention was illegal because of rules violations.

So the challengers were denied an opportunity to even present their case because of what can only be described as a technicality, while the delegation - which, by undisputed testimony, added 35 delegates to their roll illegally, denied the participations repeated requests for points of order and were given minutes of the precinct conventions to prove this only after forced to by the Thirteenth Court of Appeals - were all seated with the exception of the credentials committee chairman of the county convention. In fact, a former county chairman from Nueces County testified to the committee that the party had been operating in this manner for over 20 years.

For the first time in my experience in the RPT, a difference was articulated between a "contest" and a "challenge," which heretofore, in my experience, have been used interchangeably. This artful creation was also used to "resolve" many of these rules violations without the final dispostion being made by the delegates at the convention.

The "gatekeeper" made his final ruling in the Permanent Credentials Committee when he decreed that it was not possible for the permanent committee to address anything other than what the temporary committee had reported based on RPT Rule 34a. In other words, it was out of order to discuss Nueces County rump convention or the credentials of the Nueces County Chairman. Nor was it possible to have a minority report on those issues. A motion to appeal his ruling was offered, and the committee upheld the chairman by a vote of 18-12. In subsequent discussion it was pointed out that other subsections of Rule 34 gave the same direction to the Platform Committee and the Rules Committee, and the long time practice of those committees was not to limit the permanent committees only to the work of temporary committees. When the chairman was asked his opinion of whether those committees were likewise limited, he explained that he did not have an opinion on those committees, and it did not matter. It is the view of many members of the credentails committee that the chairman created interpretations of rules to accomplish what he and the Chairman of the RPT desired from the beginning.

This is more evidence, in my opinion, of the reason we need new RPT leadership.

'No Authority' - Seems to be the strategy, including the courts...

[Freedom]

Good news for the Revolution - I know of at least two Ron Paul Delegates that are going to the RNC National Convention! Hey, it's a start!