Microsoft Dirty Tricks? 'Security Update' plugs up Internet - Solution Get Vista

[XR500Final]

I personally am witness to some strange happenings on my computer - namely my Mozilla Firefox was VERY SLOW, AND HANGING OFTEN. Its not that my computer is fast, its VERY FAST with 4GB of Ram, a Quad Core Phenon 9600 Processor, ad infinitum.

Strangely and magically when I unstalled the latest security patches from 'Microzoft' all of a sudden the machine speed up incredibly - and my Mozilla is working well again... Lets get realistic here - Windows XP has been out for several years now, and they are still releasing 'patches' for it. Strangely I also noticed that my Mozilla Firefox would hang, but my Internet Explorer would still work. I would physically throw the computer into the garbage before I would use Internet Explorer - PERIOD.

Vista is a crime against humanity all you need to read is found at http://www.badvista.org/ and now I am wondering if they are 'encouraging' transition over to Vista by 'crippling' XP with 'security patches.'

Anyone noticing anything similar?

[Kludge]

It's Firefox... Their newest versions have ridiculous memory leaks....

The beta version of Firefox 3 is the exception to this rule http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

[NorwegianLibertarian]

What is the name of the patch you uninstalled?

[Give me liberty]

If you do run into problems with firefox next time make sure you remove Java,

I had an issue with my vista with Java and firefox.


Java firefox dont run so well on vista.

[pcosmar]

Have you ever read the EULA ( End User License Agreement)?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/eula.mspx
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:pHCGnIaPfVMJ:download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Windows%2520Vista_Home%2520Premium_English_d16c019 b-fa71-4fc9-a51d-a0621bddb153.pdf+EULA&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

You would do well to read it and understand that you DO NOT own your system.
Micro$oft does.

Set yourself free.
Learn Linux. it's not that hard.

[constituent]

Set yourself free.
Learn Linux. it's not that hard.

But do lots of research and find the distro that is most compatible w/ your hardware ahead of time.

The problem w/ linux thus far is the "just works" isn't quite there. Too many people have "just works" as a prerequisite.

It's not a flaw w/ linux, but the organization/accessibility (or lack thereof) of hardware specific info., one has to search (sometimes for hours) through long discussion board posts and what not. Fine for me, but not for everyone.

If you want "just works" with lots of functionality stick w/ mac, imo.

[pcosmar]

But do lots of research and find the distro that is most compatible w/ your hardware ahead of time.

The problem w/ linux thus far is the "just works" isn't quite there. Too many people have "just works" as a prerequisite.

It's not a flaw w/ linux, but the organization/accessibility (or lack thereof) of hardware specific info., one has to search (sometimes for hours) through long discussion board posts and what not. Fine for me, but not for everyone.

If you want "just works" with lots of functionality stick w/ mac, imo.

Most distros have a Live CD. It will run a complete system from the disc drive and you can find out if it is compatible. It will run from the CD without touching your Hard Drive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD (for quick reference)
Unless you are running some obscure hardware, Linux will run. I have run it on old low power systems and on newer hardware. Any system that is "Vista ready" will run it with no problems, as it needs less resources than Vista.

[constituent]

Most distros have a Live CD. It will run a complete system from the disc drive and you can find out if it is compatible. It will run from the CD without touching your Hard Drive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD (for quick reference)
Unless you are running some obscure hardware, Linux will run. I have run it on old low power systems and on newer hardware. Any system that is "Vista ready" will run it with no problems, as it needs less resources than Vista.

i agree with your post 100%

my laptop (apparently) happens to have obscure hardware though (bummer smiley).

what i find interesting is the number of "vista ready" systems out there incapable of running vista.

[pcosmar]

i agree with your post 100%

my laptop (apparently) happens to have obscure hardware though (bummer smiley).

what i find interesting is the number of "vista ready" systems out there incapable of running vista.
Try PCLinuxOS.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/

A plug for my favorite, but I have used a couple. It is running on My laptop as well as the house box.
And my 82 yr old mothers.
And my Pastors.
I have an old IBM running Ubuntu. and a frankenputer that I test distros on.
This is still my favorite, and the Forums are friendly and helpful.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php

[Acala]

Sorry if this is too far off topic but,

I use firefox, Thunderbird, Abiword and a couple other open source applications. But I still use Windows os (xp on the desk top, Pissta on the new lap top). I haven't made the jump to Linux.

I don't have a bunch of esoteric apps but I don't want to have to hunt down obscure Linux apps to replace them all. Am I going to be able to run my existing apps on Linux?

Thanks.

[micahnelson]

Firefox, thunderbird, abiword (you should really get open office though) all run on linux.

If you aren't into gaming there is no reason not to use linux, i couldn't say that two years ago- but ubuntu and some other debian variants changed everything.

You can still do gaming on linux, but you have to deal with cedega etc... i dunno if thats changed.

[CurtisLow]

I personally am witness to some strange happenings on my computer - namely my Mozilla Firefox was VERY SLOW, AND HANGING OFTEN. Its not that my computer is fast, its VERY FAST with 4GB of Ram, a Quad Core Phenon 9600 Processor, ad infinitum.

Strangely and magically when I unstalled the latest security patches from 'Microzoft' all of a sudden the machine speed up incredibly - and my Mozilla is working well again... Lets get realistic here - Windows XP has been out for several years now, and they are still releasing 'patches' for it. Strangely I also noticed that my Mozilla Firefox would hang, but my Internet Explorer would still work. I would physically throw the computer into the garbage before I would use Internet Explorer - PERIOD.

Vista is a crime against humanity all you need to read is found at http://www.badvista.org/ and now I am wondering if they are 'encouraging' transition over to Vista by 'crippling' XP with 'security patches.'

Anyone noticing anything similar?


I run Vista and have noticed the slow down every 4 to 5 days. And I have a costly gaming PC with cable modem. And your right IE has no problems and suks.

[pcosmar]

Sorry if this is too far off topic but,

I use firefox, Thunderbird, Abiword and a couple other open source applications. But I still use Windows os (xp on the desk top, Pissta on the new lap top). I haven't made the jump to Linux.

I don't have a bunch of esoteric apps but I don't want to have to hunt down obscure Linux apps to replace them all. Am I going to be able to run my existing apps on Linux?

Thanks.

Micro$oft tries to hold a monopoly on the market.
I really don't care for their business practices nor the way they treat customers.
I have been an advocate for Linux before I got involved with Ron Paul. It is about honest competition and Freedom.
Most apps that are available for windows have an Open Source alternative. I don't believe that I am lacking anything.
Open Office . For all documents, word processing.
http://www.openoffice.org/
GIMP, for image manipulation.
http://www.gimp.org/
K3b, for CD and DVD burning.
A variety of Multimedia apps.
I also have a couple of simulators.
Torcs. for cars.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/torcs
And FlightGear, for aircraft.
http://www.flightgear.org/
I am not big into gaming, but have run some windows games with WINE,
http://www.winehq.org/
I run Google Earth under wine.
I have piccasa, Bibletime Instant messaging on several channels,etc.
I don't feel that I am lacking anything.

[Acala]

Firefox, thunderbird, abiword (you should really get open office though) all run on linux.

If you aren't into gaming there is no reason not to use linux, i couldn't say that two years ago- but ubuntu and some other debian variants changed everything.

You can still do gaming on linux, but you have to deal with cedega etc... i dunno if thats changed.

Okay, so when I switch can I preserve all my documents, files, bookmarks, etc?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Hey remember, it's MICROSOFT

Bill 'H1B VISA' Gates and Minions of the Matrix.

can I seek restitution for all the lost productivity, data, and personal injury cause by BSOD?

yeah, I forgot, you have to pay MICROSOFT to sign away all your RIGHTS to EVERYTHING!

[Kludge]

Hey remember, it's MICROSOFT

Bill 'H1B VISA' Gates and Minions of the Matrix.

can I seek restitution for all the lost productivity, data, and personal injury cause by BSOD?

yeah, I forgot, you have to pay MICROSOFT to sign away all your RIGHTS to EVERYTHING!

That's silly... There is no guarantee that something will run a certain way every time, and Microsoft shouldn't have to affirm that with an EULA. Whether or not you get a BSoD is dependent on the quality of the OS, software being used and your hardware. If one doesn't work to your expectations, switch out the OS, other software or hardware.

[pcosmar]

Okay, so when I switch can I preserve all my documents, files, bookmarks, etc?

Make backups of everything before, and yes you can.
I have not had any problems when setting up a dual-boot system but backups are a good idea anyway.
I can access all files on the windows partition when running Linux.

[XR500Final]

I was running FireFox3, it was the 'Security Patches' that were slowing down the box.