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Matt Collins
08-25-2007, 12:59 PM
Bush doesn't deny plans for N. American Union
WorldNetDaily

President avoids question, ridicules 'conspiracy theorists' who believe it

MONTEBELLO, Quebec – President Bush today sidestepped a direct question about whether he'd be willing to categorically deny there is a plan to create the North American Union.

Instead, he ridiculed those who believe that is taking place as conspiracy theorists.

The exchange came at a news conference held by Bush, Mexico's President Felipe Calderon, and Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who met at a resort in the rural woods outside of Ottawa, Quebec, to discuss their latest work on the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

After the trio presented their prepared statement about the SPP, several reporters who had been selected in advance were allowed to ask questions.

When it came time for a question from a Fox News reporter, Bush was asked if he would be willing to categorically deny that there is a plan to create a North American Union, or that there are plans to create NAFTA Superhighways.

"As you three leaders meet here, there are a growing number of people in each of your countries who have expressed concern about the Security and Prosperity Partnership. This is addressed to all three of you. Can you say today that this is not a prelude to a North American Union, similar to a European Union? Are there plans to build some kind of superhighway connecting all three countries? And do you believe all of these theories about a possible erosion of national identity stem from a lack of transparency from this partnership?" was the question, according to a White House transcript.

Reporters at the news conference said he sidestepped, instead adopting the tactic that those who are arguing the European Union model of integrating nations into a larger continental union is being used in North America should be ridiculed.

He called it an old political scare tactic, to try to create a wild conspiracy and then demand that those who "are not engaged" prove that it isn't happening.

Bush's answer was:

"We represent three great nations. We each respect each other's sovereignty. You know, there are some who would like to frighten our fellow citizens into believing that relations between us are harmful for our respective peoples. I just believe they're wrong. I believe it's in our interest to trade; I believe it's in our interest to dialogue; I believe it's in our interest to work out common problems for the good of our people.

"And I'm amused by some of the speculation, some of the old – you can call them political scare tactics. If you've been in politics as long as I have, you get used to that kind of technique where you lay out a conspiracy and then force people to try to prove it doesn't exist. That's just the way some people operate. I'm here representing my nation. I feel strongly that the United States is a force for good, and I feel strongly that by working with our neighbors we can a stronger force for good.

"So I appreciate that question. I'm amused by the difference between what actually takes place in the meetings and what some are trying to say takes place. It's quite comical, actually, when you realize the difference between reality and what some people are talking on TV about."

Harper joined in. There's not going to be any NAFTA Superhighway connecting the three nations, he said, and it's "not going to go interplanetary either," he said.

Harper said the SPP discussions that were held concerned such pressing issues as jelly beans. He said the business interests expressing their desires for progress on the SPP noted there were different standards in the United States and Canada, and there was a discussion about whether those standards could be made uniform for the U.S. and Canada.

Bush's comments echoed the comments published just a day earlier in the Ottawa Citizen by David Wilkins, the U.S. ambassador to Canada.

"While conspiracy theories abound, you can take it to the bank that no one involved in these discussions is interested in, or has ever proposed, a 'North American Union,' a 'North American super highway,' or a 'North American currency,'" he wrote.

"The United States, Canada and Mexico are three distinct, sovereign countries that practice democracy differently," he wrote. "Each proudly defends its own interests. But our leaders also recognize that we share a continent in this post-Sept. 11 world, where terrorism is but one threat. We have a vested interest in working together to prevent potential threats outside North America – like those posed by pandemic flu or improperly labeled foods, for example – from penetrating our borders.

Wilkins wrote that the nations also are "exploring ways to detect radiological threats and coordinating emergency efforts along our borders in the event of a man-made or natural disaster. It just makes sense when you share thousands of miles of common border to share a common emergency-management plan."

He said another goal is to reduce the cost of doing business across national borders.

However, Jerome Corsi, a Harvard Ph.D. whose newly published book, "The Late Great USA," uses the government's own documentation to show the advance of a North American Union, said ridicule is the "last resort of someone who is losing an argument."

Such tactics, Corsi said, "underestimate the intelligence of people listening, and people realize that the argument wasn't answered."

At the news conference, he noted, Bush failed to respond to the Fox News question with a denial of the plans for a North American Union.

And, Corsi said, "Bush did not address the fact that Texas Gov. Rick Perrry vetoed a two-year moratorium on the Trans-Texas Corridor project," believed to be the starting point for an eventual continent-wide grid of NAFTA Superhighways.

"Just to ridicule the idea, when he had a change to categorically deny it, raises doubts in peoples' minds, especially when these meetings aren't transparent," Corsi added.

The meeting this week, which focused on economic issues, was attended by representatives of dozens of multinational corporations anxious to have their manufacturing and sales processes smoothed.

However, Corsi said, "not one person who objects is permitted inside the room."

At the same time, Bush did affirm that there is a plan under consideration for the United States to provide military assistance to Mexico's military in its battles in the drug war, although officials were not ready to announce what that plan includes.

The three national leaders simply affirmed that drug trade is a continental problem and would demand a continental solution.

The formal statement from the three leaders referred to the "opportunities and challenges facing North America and [the need] to establish priorities for our further collaboration."

They said the three nations already have agreed to a North American plan for avian and pandemic influenza, a "Regulatory Cooperation Framework," an intellectual property action strategy and a "Trilateral Agreement for Cooperation in Energy Science and Technology."

"The North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), announced last year in Cancun, has provided us with thoughtful recommendations on how we could strengthen the competitive platform for business," the statement said.

The statement said the Regulatory Cooperation Framework will allow various rules to be streamlined across borders.

"In the coming year, we ask our ministers to consider work in areas, such as the chemicals, automotive, transportation, and information and communications technology sectors," the statement said.

And the Intellectual Property Action Strategy "also gives us an invaluable tool for combating counterfeiting and piracy, which undermine innovation, harm economic development and can have negative public-health and safety implications," the three said.

Food safety and border security also were discussed. "Our governments will continue to address the safety of food and products imported into North America, while facilitating the significant trade in these products that our countries already have and without imposing unnecessary barriers to trade," the leaders said.

"It is sometimes best to screen goods and travelers prior to entry into North America. We ask our ministers to develop mutually acceptable inspection protocols to detect threats to our security, such as from incoming travelers during a pandemic and from radiological devices on general aviation," the statement said.

But protesters who staged events in Ottawa as the meetings were moving forward, warned of the integration and harmonizing the SPP seeks.

"The SPP is pursuing an agenda to integrate Mexico and Canada in closed-door sessions that are getting underway today in Montebello," Howard Phillips, the chairman of the Coalition to Block the North American Union, told an earlier press conference in Ottawa.

"We are here to register our protest," Phillips added, "along with the protests of thousands of Americans who agree with us that the SPP is a globalist agenda driven by the multi-national corporate interests and intellectual elite who together have launched an attack upon the national sovereignty of the United States, Canada and Mexico."

Connie Fogel, head of the Canadian Action Party, agreed with Phillips.

"Canadians are complaining that the SPP process lacks transparency," Fogel told the press conference. "Transparency is a major issue, but even if the SPP working groups were open to the public, we would still object to their goal to advance the North American integration agenda at the expense of Canadian sovereignty."

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Matt Collins
08-26-2007, 12:50 PM
This doesn't concern anyone here?

Richie
08-26-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm so concerned about it, it's impossible for me to be any more concerned. This doesn't come as a surprise to me.

Electric Church
08-26-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm gettin sick and tired of these bastards always using the term "conspiracy theories" to ridicule anything that's either against the agenda of the globalists or exposes their crimes. When people hear that term "conspiracy theories" used over and over again they should be very suspicious indeed because those who repeatedly use that term are from the same camp with the same agenda no matter who they claim to be or represent.

Matt Collins
08-26-2007, 05:31 PM
I think this is a danger to American sovereignty.

Darren McFillintheBlank
08-26-2007, 07:28 PM
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Matt Collins
08-26-2007, 10:02 PM
Do they think we don't use the Internets?It's just a series of pipes... :rolleyes:

Matt Collins
04-08-2008, 06:23 PM
This could be more relevant now than ever

Dr.3D
04-08-2008, 07:05 PM
Shouldn't all meetings with foreign officials be recorded? Or would they say that would pose a hazard to governm.... err... national security?

Deborah K
04-08-2008, 07:15 PM
This doesn't concern anyone here?

It concerns me a great deal. It is why I am involved in this movement in the first place. I have been working with Congressman Virgil Goode and others to get cosponsors for HCR40 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040: It is legislation to stop the superhighway and the NAU. If your congressman is not on the list, contact me.

Signzit
04-09-2008, 03:01 AM
you are way slow matt!

oh, wow matt's on fire! Well my hair has been on fire about this for about at least three years now.

some links (enjoy, know you get to be a crazy whacko too) lol

here's the truth (Dr. Peterson has been watching for us, it is the most vetted and complete data i could find in three years.)
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/

here's the cover story
http://www.spp.gov/

here's your new flag
http://www.jbs.org/files/images/site/NAU.gif

here is the superhighway that is only a rumor but Dr. Paul knows of it
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst103006.htm

here is the NASCO Corridors, just a harmless group, NAFTA super highways, oh not owned by America but by foreign countries.
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonImages/NASCOCorridors.jpg

here is when we got our new North American Army
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228

here is an unbiased CFR report for sale of the NAU :rolleyes:
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/

This is the best one, he's like some kid, flashing gang signs.
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TwoPeasImages/PrinceQueenBushBush.jpg

GunnyFreedom
04-09-2008, 03:23 AM
you are way slow matt!

Actually, he posted that right after the meeting in question, august of 07

Truth Warrior
04-09-2008, 06:12 AM
Gee, what else is the current NWO agenda sockpuppet president supposed to say? :)

bucfish
04-09-2008, 06:44 AM
Well I am just glad that finally more people are awakening and hopefully can stop this BS that will destroy America remember in Europe they lied about the EU for a long time

Signzit
04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Actually, he posted that right after the meeting in question, august of 07

< Rant: On :p:D

So then it's your contention that the NAU and SPP have got all this way since, august of 07?

A yeah... No, if they were moving at that pace we would already be CanaAmeraMexapoor'r!

you know, it never accrued to some of us, that NAFTA would lead directly to this...

it is shocking, how they were able to hit the ground running on all this with absolutely NO pretense before 911.

To think that unbiased, unaffiliated, non-political NGOs, think tanks and such, could convene meetings, issue reports, form studies groups, give data analysis, and testify before secret committees, submit said reports to said committees, all the way to the point of knowing, which foreign countries will collect the tolls and what contractors will build what where; all since Aug. of 07 and all this, while they are trying squeeze tax dollars from the citizenry of the state of Texas, so they can commission studies to minimize local impact and deice which private lands they will seize for said non-existent hypothetical projects.

No sorry, this did not start in August 07.

All of you rock throwing-nay sayers and name callers are starting to wake-up to the corruption and the total disregard for the Rule of Law they have shown the American People. Many of you people kill me, you don't even know how truly important Ron Paul is to this country. many of you Ron Paul "Fans" make me sick, he's not a fucking Rock Star, he's a Statesmen.

You don't even know where your own candidate stands on the issues. Even if they were trying hide this issue from you (which they have not) and you were un-aware! IF YOU had taken the time to read your own candidate's positions, you would have discovered it was indeed an issue; at least it was to your candidate.

Think about it; within our own group of "Fans" there are STILL people ignorant of Ron Paul's positions and we are just a months way from the election.

What kind of Ron Paul advocate have you been? Not knowing one of the most important issues of our time and using it to convert votes for Ron Paul... WTF?

Was it because you didn't read RP's platform? or was it, "that kind of the crazy stuff Ron Paul says once in while; i don't agree with ALL of what he says", making you not a crazy kook, like some of those RP FANS :rolleyes:

No, i'm not letting anyone off the hook... and you'll be saying the same things about the Towers in 30years from now. saying "we didn't know" bullshit, you are being told daily; just like The Lusitania. Like Pearl Harbor. Like The Gulf of Tonkin. Like the USS Liberty. Like Gulf WarI. Like Gulf WarII.

What will it take for you to believe the unbelievable? cuz these things are so heinous to humans- that is what is required of you. "They" don't feel, like we do, "They" are without feeling. You are chattel! The bigger the lie, the faster it sells. I feel like throwing up; many in our own camp are still clueless (band wagon johnny come latelys) but we still want you, thank you and welcome aboard.

I sure hope Tom Cruz's spaceship comes and gets us, before that planetkiller, PlanetX 2012 gets here! ;)

Rant: Off > :cool:

LittleLightShining
05-15-2008, 02:01 PM
After reading this last month, I finally decided to contact my Representative, Peter Welch, about it. I didn't save a copy of my initial letter, but here is his response and what I just wrote back to him. Feel free to use it as you see fit, but please don't hesitate to contact your Congressman. Also, please urge your Representative to act on HR1415.

*****
Dear Ms. ______,

Thank you for contacting me about H.R. 1415, the Restore the Constitution Act, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP). I appreciate hearing your feedback on this important issue.

Introduced by Rep. Jerry Nadler, I am a cosponsor of H.R. 1415, which would require U.S. military commission cases to be reviewed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. It would also make coerced statements inadmissible in any commission proceedings, restore habeas corpus rights, and ensure compliance with the Geneva conventions. H.R. 1415 is currently being considered by the House Committees on the Judiciary, Armed Services, and Foreign Affairs.

I share your concern about maintaining the sovereignty of the United States with regards to both economic and national security policies. Canada, Mexico, and the United States are attempting to work cooperatively on issues such as border protection, emergency management, and influenza pandemics. It is my understanding that the SPP is not intended to create any type of legal unification of the three countries.

I will keep your thoughts in mind and will work to ensure that the SPP and other international initiatives do not violate the Constitution and do not infringe upon the United States' national sovereignty.

Thank you again for contacting me. Please continue to stay in touch, and I look forward to seeing you in Vermont soon.

Sincerely,

PETER WELCH
Member of Congress

**********
My reply:



Hi Mr. Welch,

Thanks for getting back to me about HR1415 and also my concerns about our National Sovereignty.

I am so grateful to have a Representative in Congress who understands how important it is to not just pay lip service to the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land. There are fundamental rights that human beings possess and we are truly blessed to live in a country founded on a basic understanding and deep respect for those rights.

Because of this I am very, very concerned about our national sovereignty and what I see as a steady shift towards fascism. I would appreciate you taking a look at the links I am providing and I urge you to consider co-sponsoring H.Con.Res. 40 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@L&summ2=m&
Rep. Ron Paul of Texas issued a press release about the subject which can be found here: http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2008/pr042108.htm

As I'm sure you are aware President Bush has met with the leaders of Canada and Mexico as recently as last month to discuss ties with the other North American countries in areas of commerce and security. Earlier this year a tie was formed between the Canadian and American militaries in order to cooperate in potential domestic unrest or natural disaster. This article from the U.S. Northern Command sums it up quite benignly: http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html

However, the potential for abuse of this alliance is not to be dismissed.

I look forward to hearing back from you about this very important issue. Thank you so much for your time, attention, and service to the good people of Vermont and the United States.

Sincerely,
_________

asgardshill
05-15-2008, 02:18 PM
This doesn't concern anyone here?

Bush didn't deny accusations that he ripped the heart of a Venezuelian baby out of its chest and ate it while it was still beating for lunch yesterday either. He also didn't deny charges that he had Judge Crater and JFK killed.

I'm no Bush fan but fair is fair - some accusations simply haven't earned the right to a reply.