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Pauls' Revere
06-08-2008, 01:51 AM
Were screwed. $845 billion over and above what is already being spent.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-global-tax-proposal-up-for-senate-vote/

Kraig
06-08-2008, 02:29 AM
$845 billion of slavery.

OptionsTrader
06-08-2008, 02:35 AM
I get to fund not only worldwide welfare with this bill but worldwide gun control as well. Lovely.

werdd
06-08-2008, 07:15 AM
If this goes through, you could realisticly see conservatives boycotting paying their taxes. Maybe we need some extreme orwellian bullshit like this to get our message across.

moostraks
06-08-2008, 07:15 AM
They are planning on plucking from the magic money tree again I see....

moostraks
06-08-2008, 07:18 AM
Nice to see the transparency on the gun control issue. Some might really want to take this as an indication of where Obama will take us during a presidency stint. Hope and change for the global community...ack!!!

Pauls' Revere
06-08-2008, 07:32 PM
To boot, as I understand it this will pass wheater signed or not. The only way to stop it is by way of a veto. Just lovely how this is "forced" through the United Nations. UGH!

Pauls' Revere
06-08-2008, 07:36 PM
If this goes through, you could realisticly see conservatives boycotting paying their taxes. Maybe we need some extreme orwellian bullshit like this to get our message across.

Thing is, I dont think people have heard about this crap!
:eek:

Pauls' Revere
06-08-2008, 07:40 PM
Obama’s Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote


AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 12, 2008

It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member.

A nice-sounding bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.

Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.

The bill, which is item number four on the committee's business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn't realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body.

A release from the Obama Senate office about the bill declares, "In 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day."

The legislation itself requires the President "to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day."

The bill defines the term "Millennium Development Goals" as the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).

The U.N. says that "The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective GNP."

In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."

Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.'s "Millennium Project," says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the "Millennium Development Goals," this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels.

Obama's bill has only six co-sponsors. They are Senators Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein, Richard Lugar, Richard Durbin, Chuck Hagel and Robert Menendez. But it appears that Biden and Obama see passage of this bill as a way to highlight Democratic Party priorities in the Senate.

The House version (H.R. 1302), sponsored by Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), had only 84 co-sponsors before it was suddenly brought up on the House floor last September 25 and was passed by voice vote. House Republicans were caught off-guard, unaware that the pro-U.N. measure committed the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars.

It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member. Lugar has worked with Obama in the past to promote more foreign aid for Russia, supposedly to stem nuclear proliferation, and has become Obama's mentor. Like Biden, Lugar is a globalist. They have both promoted passage of the U.N.'s Law of the Sea Treaty, for example.

The so-called "Lugar-Obama initiative" was modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program, also known as the Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) program, which was designed to eliminate weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. But one defense analyst, Rich Kelly, noted evidence that "CTR funds have eased the Russian military's budgetary woes, freeing resources for such initiatives as the war in Chechnya and defense modernization." He recommended that Congress "eliminate CTR funding so that it does not finance additional, perhaps more threatening, programs in the former Soviet Union." However, over $6 billion has already been spent on the program.

Another program modeled on Nunn-Lugar, the Initiatives for Proliferation Prevention (IPP), was recently exposed as having funded nuclear projects in Iran through Russia.

More foreign aid through passage of the Global Poverty Act was identified as one of the strategic goals of InterAction, the alliance of U.S-based international non-governmental organizations that lobbies for more foreign aid. The group is heavily financed by the U.S. Government, having received $1.4 million from taxpayers in fiscal year 2005 and $1.7 million in 2006. However, InterAction recently issued a report accusing the United States of "falling short on its commitment to rid the world of dire poverty by 2015 under the U.N. Millennium Development Goals..."

It's not clear what President Bush would do if the bill passes the Senate. The bill itself quotes Bush as declaring that "We fight against poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to human dignity." Bush's former top aide, Michael J. Gerson, writes in his new book, Heroic Conservatism, that Bush should be remembered as the President who "sponsored the largest percentage increases in foreign assistance since the Marshall Plan..."

Even these increases, however, will not be enough to satisfy the requirements of the Obama bill. A global tax will clearly be necessary to force American taxpayers to provide the money.

Americans who would like their senators to know what they are voting on can contact them through information at this official Senate site.


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Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report and can be reached at cliff.kincaid@aim.org

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Fox McCloud
06-08-2008, 08:02 PM
that's horrible--this is only a way to further transfer wealth to other nations, and nothing more.

the Convention for Biological Diversity is one nasty group too: http://www.discerningtoday.org/wildlands_map_of_us.htm

I'm glad Michael S. Coffman was able to discover their ruse and warn Congress in time.

SeanEdwards
06-08-2008, 08:16 PM
I kinda like the name of the bill though. It's one case where the title of the law actually indicates what you'll get.

Pauls' Revere
06-08-2008, 10:58 PM
I kinda like the name of the bill though. It's one case where the title of the law actually indicates what you'll get.

pfff...(snicker)...no kidding. Not to mention Obama's cousin is trying to overthrow the Kenyan Government. Wheather or not that is good or bad is another story but the relationship is a bit creepy.

AutoDas
06-08-2008, 11:01 PM
Who wants to bet that it's going to cost triple that amount? Keynesian economists never get it right, there's this thing called human element that they continuously dismiss which is what a whole economy is based on.

bander87
06-08-2008, 11:48 PM
Aren't we the ones who are borrowing 2.5-3 billion dollars a day from other countries/banks?

bander87
06-09-2008, 12:12 AM
http://www.bread.org/take-action/ol2008/global-poverty-act.html


The first goal is to cut in half the number of people living on less than $1 a day by 2015.

Hahaha, that shouldn't be too much of a problem with the amount of money we are constantly printing...

Pepsi
06-09-2008, 06:59 AM
This might help to stop it from passing, they have a good message there you can use to send to your Senators to tell them to vote NO on the bill. They have the option of you faxing the message, but you have to make Contribution Amount of at less $25, thow you can easy use the message in your own email or your own fax.


http://www.exposeobama.com/obamaglobalpovertydc.html

Another site with the same fax option, differnt message.

http://www.cfiflistmanager.org/globalpovertyactnm.html

weslinder
06-09-2008, 07:38 AM
pfff...(snicker)...no kidding. Not to mention Obama's cousin is trying to overthrow the Kenyan Government. Wheather or not that is good or bad is another story but the relationship is a bit creepy.

Can you provide a reliable link for this? I've been trying to send all the truthful anti-Obama material I can find out, and this would be huge.

Thanks!

Cinderella
06-09-2008, 07:46 AM
question how much does this poverty act come out to be per citizen? i think i read somewhere that would mean each person in the US will have to be taxed $3,000 a yr to be able to support this?

SeanEdwards
06-09-2008, 08:07 AM
question how much does this poverty act come out to be per citizen? i think i read somewhere that would mean each person in the US will have to be taxed $3,000 a yr to be able to support this?

I divided 845 billion by 300 million and I got 2816.66666. Call it a very rough estimate.

Cinderella
06-09-2008, 08:12 AM
I divided 845 billion by 300 million and I got 2816.66666. Call it a very rough estimate.

im already having a hard time making ends meet as a single mother...id assume the 845 billion will increase when they realize the money isnt enough to combat poverty....im kinda scared:(

weslinder
06-09-2008, 08:16 AM
question how much does this poverty act come out to be per citizen? i think i read somewhere that would mean each person in the US will have to be taxed $3,000 a yr to be able to support this?

Be careful about quoting the $845 Billion figure. It includes 7 years that have already passed in which we didn't pay what the Global Poverty supporters wanted, and forgiveness of junk loans that won't be repayed anyway. I crunched the numbers myself for a mail out on this for our local RLC, and came up with about $450 Billion including the forgiveness of loans, and $250 Billion excluding that.

It's still a ridiculous bill, and should be opposed at all cost, but it does us well to properly represent the effect, and not engage in hyperbole.

Thrashertm
06-09-2008, 08:26 AM
This is why there's a veto power

Pepsi
07-26-2008, 05:07 AM
Obama's $845 billion U.N. plan forwarded to U.S. Senate floor

'Global Poverty Act' to cost each citizen $2,500 or more

The U.S. Senate soon could debate whether you, your spouse and each of your children – as well as your in-laws, parents, grandparents, neighbors and everyone else in America – each will spend $2,500 or more to reduce poverty around the world.

The plan sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is estimated to cost the U.S. some $845 billion over the coming few years in an effort to raise the standard of living around the globe.


Barack Obama

S.2433 already has been approved in one form by the U.S. House of Representatives and now has been placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar for pending debate.

WND previously reported the proposal demands the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.

Cliff Kincaid at Accuracy in Media has published a critique asserting that while the Global Poverty Act sounds nice, the adoption could "result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States" and would make levels of U.S. foreign aid spending "subservient to the dictates of the United Nations."

He said the legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years, he said, would amount to $845 billion "over and above what the U.S. already spends."

The plan passed the House in 2007 "because most members didn't realize what was in it," Kincaid reported. "Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require."

A recent statement from Obama's office noted the support offered by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces," Obama said. "It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water. As we strive to rebuild America's standing in the world, this important bill will demonstrate our promise and commitment to those in the developing world.

"Our commitment to the global economy must extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere," he continued.

Another critic, however, has been commentator Glenn Beck


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70308

Pepsi
07-26-2008, 05:07 AM
If you don’t want the Senate to approve Sen. Obama's S. 2433 to set in motion legislation to require the United States to spend hundreds of billions of dollars of new United Nations-inspired foreign aid spending by 2015, then please read on and send the editable email message below to your senators. Please act now! This bill could come up for a vote in the full Senate at any time after July 7th. The House has already passed its version of this bill (H.R. 1302) by a voice vote on September 25, 2007.

In September 2000 the UN General Assembly adopted the “United Nations Millennium Declaration ,” a very comprehensive, nine-page document that ends:

We solemnly reaffirm, on this historic occasion, that the United Nations is the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development. We therefore pledge our unstinting support for these common objectives and our determination to achieve them.


The Declaration’s section on Development and Poverty Eradication sets the goal “To halve, by the year 2015, the proportion of the world’s people whose income is less than one dollar a day….”

Then, in 2002 the UN’s International Conference on Financing for Development in Monterrey, Mexico, established a goal for foreign aid to impoverished nations – 0.7 percent of the gross national product (GNP) of developed nations.

Next we have Senator Obama’s S. 2433 Global Poverty Act of 2007 which he introduced in the Senate on December 7, 2007. His bill is nearly identical to a House bill (H.R. 1302) that was passed in the House by a voice vote on September 25, 2007. The purpose of S. 2433 is:

To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.


Thus, S. 2433 does not authorize or appropriate any money to fight global poverty, but only requires the President to develop a strategy to achieve UN Millennium Development goals, such as halving the proportion of people in the world who live on less than $1 per day by 2015. However, based on the 2002 UN goal of foreign aid spending of 0.7 percent of GNP by developed nations, it has been estimated by some conservative commentators that achieving the Millennium Declaration’s development goal of poverty reduction could cost the U.S. over $800 billion by 2015.

Although the Millennium Declaration also contains a whole host of other UN pet projects, such as greater UN regulation of light weapons and imposing the Kyoto Protocol to reduce global warming on the U.S., these projects are not addressed by S. 2433.

One interesting aspect of this S. 2433 bill is that when the Senate Foreign Relations Committee slightly amended the bill before reporting it out of committee with a favorable recommendation on April 24, they carefully went through the bill and wherever the words "United Nations Millennium Development Goals" appear, they deleted the words "United Nations." However, at the very end of the bill the committee was forced to admit the UN connection with the Millenium Development Goals when they explained:

The term "Millennium Development Goals" means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000) .


The bottom line is that Americans should contact their senators in strong opposition to S. 2433, because Senator Obama’s Global Poverty Reduction Act would serve to grease the skids for further legislation to force the U.S. to empower the United Nations by fulfilling its extremely costly Millennium Declaration goals.


http://capwiz.com/jbs/issues/alert/?alertid=11590351

thebestofronpaul
09-12-2008, 06:27 PM
This is treason at it's finest.

Monolithic
09-12-2008, 06:53 PM
i'm pretty sure the US isn't going to be the only one paying the $850 billion or whatever

i heard a bunch of other western countries are going to chip in to, it's an international thing

Pauls' Revere
09-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Can you provide a reliable link for this? I've been trying to send all the truthful anti-Obama material I can find out, and this would be huge.

Thanks!

Here's a lead to follow through on.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994439/posts

erika
09-14-2008, 12:28 AM
bump

Pepsi
09-14-2008, 12:24 PM
It's going to be voted on soon, by September 25.

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/nationa...l-poverty-actq

Pauls' Revere
09-14-2008, 02:24 PM
it's going to be voted on soon, by september 25.

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/nationa...l-poverty-actq

404 error found...?

specsaregood
09-14-2008, 02:29 PM
404 error found...?

fixed link:
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/national-sovereignty-blog/2763-democratic-party-platform-indirectly-endorses-obamas-un-inspired-qglobal-poverty-actq

Make sure to take the couple of minutes and send a message with capwiz.
http://www.capwiz.com/jbs/issues/alert/?alertid=11590351

Pauls' Revere
09-14-2008, 02:39 PM
each time I read it I need to shower and exfoliate myself.
:mad:

specsaregood
09-14-2008, 02:42 PM
each time I read it I need to shower and exfoliate myself.
:mad:

Did you send a message to your senator to oppose this theft?

Pauls' Revere
09-14-2008, 08:43 PM
Did you send a message to your senator to oppose this theft?

Done.

Not that Boxer and Feinstein will listen.