Prediction: Obama to pick Caroline Kennedy for VP

[cindy25]

just a feeling I have, but it makes sense:

1) female
2) Jewish husband
3) name recognition as good as Hillary
4) long liberal/socialist pedigree
5) lawyer
6) heading search committee

any thoughts?

[Aratus]

curiously enough, she's a ticket balancer...

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

And they will get all that sympathy when that other Kennedy meets his maker soon. It will be just like a TV show.

[familydog]

That might be good. The "Kennedy" brand is always helpful.

Honestly, I'd go with Mark Warner if I were him. Obama would have no trouble with the working class and moderate Republicans.

[cajuncocoa]

I don't care who he chooses for VP....Obama will NEVER get my vote.

Too many troubling connections. I can't understand how anyone who supported a true patriot like Ron Paul, a man of integrity and honesty, could switch over to vote for Barack Obama. Ugh.

[cindy25]

just a prediction, I would not vote for any Kennedy

[wd4freedom]

I am no fan of Obama and believe that his presidency will be similar to the 1 term Carter wonder years.

But the Republican Party has blown it with McCain and he will be crushed by the new groundswell for Obama.

Its going to be a long 4 years, but if the RP folks stay united, we can win in 2012. We can certainly continue to gain ground in the house and senate with the right candidates.

[yongrel]

Your second reason is total bullshit.

[mtmedlin]

I would put money on Gov. Bill Richardson.

1. Has all the experience Obama doesnt
2. Brings in the Hispanic vote (helps is several swing states...especially Florida)

[electronicmaji]

I put money on Wesley Clark.

I will vote for Obama in this election without doubt I'm behind him %100. I like his message.

[Fox McCloud]

I put money on Wesley Clark.

I will vote for Obama in this election without doubt I'm behind him %100. I like his message.

Then if that's the case, why are you bugging all of us in this forum? If you're 100% for Obama, you're in direction contradiction to the vast majority of Ron Paul's positions....therefore, what are you even doing here?

[pcosmar]

He will "pick" whoever the Puppet Masters choose for him.
He will do as he is told .

[amy31416]

I put money on Wesley Clark.

I will vote for Obama in this election without doubt I'm behind him %100. I like his message.

%100, eh? You still going to be behind him when he raises your taxes, invades Pakistan and Iran and you lose more civil liberties?

Now that's change you not only can believe in, but change you can believe will suck total ass! Hooray!

[yongrel]

I put money on Wesley Clark.

I will vote for Obama in this election without doubt I'm behind him %100. I like his message.

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[christagious]

Its going to be a long 4 years, but if the RP folks stay united, we can win in 2012. We can certainly continue to gain ground in the house and senate with the right candidates.

YES! I've been saying this in quite a few posts. Although I'm probably voting Baldwin, I see a Dem win as "good" because it'll give us four years to plan and pass the torch onto somebody else. Like Ron Paul said, this is a long term effort

[electronicmaji]

%100, eh? You still going to be behind him when he raises your taxes, invades Pakistan and Iran and you lose more civil liberties?

Now that's change you not only can believe in, but change you can believe will suck total ass! Hooray!

If he puts the taxes to good use I'll be with him. I don't see him invading Iran or Pakistan; especialy folllowing how unpopular the war in Iraq is and seeing how all his voters are practically ant-war people.

[yongrel]

If he puts the taxes to good use I'll be with him. I don't see him invading Iran or Pakistan; especialy folllowing how unpopular the war in Iraq is and seeing how all his voters are practically ant-war people.

Puts taxes to good use? So you'd be ok with a mugger stealing your wallet, as long as he was using the money to feed his kids?

[electronicmaji]

Then if that's the case, why are you bugging all of us in this forum? If you're 100% for Obama, you're in direction contradiction to the vast majority of Ron Paul's positions....therefore, what are you even doing here?

I still love Ron Paul, I support the man out of his character. Hes a great man, just as Kucinich is a great man, and I support him do. There are many people on these forums that don't agree with Ron Paul, many who were even Democrats. If Ron Paul had won the primaries I would have voted for him in the General election. And if he runs for anything later on I will support him. He's a good man. He has many good ideas and many bad ideas; no one is perfect. But he, and equally Kucinich are two of the least corrupt members of this goverment, and thats what specifically atracts me to him. He is genuine.

Now I understand you have your opinion; im not going to ask you to support Obama (althought he is better than McSame) I'm just saying I think a Obama presidency will further push us to a point of less corrupt officials in goverment; and that can only be good.

[electronicmaji]

Puts taxes to good use? So you'd be ok with a mugger stealing your wallet, as long as he was using the money to feed his kids?

I don't think taxation is theft. It's a bit of a extremist stance. And reterick like that doesn't make me any kinder to it. I understand if you dont agree with taxation; and im fully against the IRS and wish you luck with going against unconstitutional tax laws. But I don't have a problem with taxation personally.

[amy31416]

If he puts the taxes to good use I'll be with him. I don't see him invading Iran or Pakistan; especialy folllowing how unpopular the war in Iraq is and seeing how all his voters are practically ant-war people.

Seriously man, you don't get it. Personal responsibility, freedom, think about it. Once you take that away, it's all fucking downhill.

Forcefully taking someone's money is denying that person the fruits of their labor. That is a loss of freedom. Deciding to take it via taxes implies that the government knows better (and they never do). Helping other people via taxes waters down the help that you want to give to another person. Why? Because the money taken goes through the filter of government, and does very little to actually help anyone but politicians, who can then use it to wield yet more power against the population.

Not to mention that welfare is one of the most destructive social programs, ever. It destroys motivation and prevents people from making the most of themselves. It's repulsive.

[electronicmaji]

Seriously man, you don't get it. Personal responsibility, freedom, think about it. Once you take that away, it's all fucking downhill.

Forcefully taking someone's money is denying that person the fruits of their labor. That is a loss of freedom. Deciding to take it via taxes implies that the government knows better (and they never do). Helping other people via taxes waters down the help that you want to give to another person. Why? Because the money taken goes through the filter of government, and does very little to actually help anyone but politicians, who can then use it to wield yet more power against the population.

Not to mention that welfare is one of the most destructive social programs, ever. It destroys motivation and prevents people from making the most of themselves. It's repulsive.

I'm all for freedom and personal responsibility. I don't think taxes automatically negate one or the other. Taxes serve their purpose.

[pcosmar]

This discussion is,
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Totally pointless.

[amy31416]

I'm all for freedom and personal responsibility. I don't think taxes automatically negate one or the other. Taxes serve their purpose.

You are not "for" freedom if you advocate taking from one to prop up another.

[James Madison]

I would put money on Gov. Bill Richardson.

1. Has all the experience Obama doesnt
2. Brings in the Hispanic vote (helps is several swing states...especially Florida)

Two problems with the second point.

1. I believe Richardson is of Mexican descent where as nearly all hispanics in Florida would be Cuban. Maybe things have changed but I'm not sure if the two groups see eye to eye.

2. McCain is likely to take Gov. Crist as his veep.

[electronicmaji]

You are not "for" freedom if you advocate taking from one to prop up another.

Sorry, things aren't that simple. Things are not always that black and white. If any taxation is theft then how is the goverment to maintain an army or protect our freedoms? Its a flawed argument on part of libertarians. I understand you beleive in small goverment with small purposes and thats fine. I just happen to beleive in bigger purposes for the goverment. Please leave the whole "Taxation is theft!" thing out of this.

[yongrel]

Sorry, things aren't that simple. Things are not always that black and white. If any taxation is theft then how is the goverment to maintain an army or protect our freedoms? Its a flawed argument on part of libertarians. I understand you beleive in small goverment with small purposes and thats fine. I just happen to beleive in bigger purposes for the goverment. Please leave the whole "Taxation is theft!" thing out of this.

Why is taxation not theft?

Pleas explain this to me without citing what the government does with their loot as your argument.

[amy31416]

Sorry, things aren't that simple. Things are not always that black and white. If any taxation is theft then how is the goverment to maintain an army or protect our freedoms? Its a flawed argument on part of libertarians. I understand you beleive in small goverment with small purposes and thats fine. I just happen to beleive in bigger purposes for the goverment. Please leave the whole "Taxation is theft!" thing out of this.

No. It is theft and leads to further corruption within the government when they can get away with it so easily.

Yongrel started another thread to discuss the particular issue of how the government should fund themselves, perhaps you'd like to add your suggestion there.

I have no problem with a smaller government sustaining themselves in some way that does NOT put it in the position to bully their citizens or put them in jail for not paying up. Taxation on particular goods or services is one thing, holding the threat of prison and taking property over people's heads is another. Particularly because it takes all power out of the hands of the people--you want to cut off funding for the war by not providing the gov't with tax money? Well, you have to quit your job, move out of the country and be on the run. Income tax allows the government to have the majority of us in a stranglehold with zero recourse when they get out of control.

[Nirvikalpa]

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