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speech
06-03-2008, 03:18 AM
A local donor (who offered a turn-key convention to the Party) now says he will proceed with the convention on his own.
http://vidzking.com/Tags/NV-Republican-Convention-be-reconvened-without-Party

itshappening
06-03-2008, 05:51 AM
thank you, he needs to get in contact with the delegates and maybe advertize in the local newspaper??? can we donate??

bojo68
06-03-2008, 05:58 AM
Gotta say this Terhune guy is pretty impressive.

torchbearer
06-03-2008, 07:35 AM
Can we help?

xRedfoxx
06-03-2008, 07:41 AM
Rogrrr...the above note...how can the Ron Paul Nation support this?

torchbearer
06-03-2008, 07:42 AM
bump

pauletteNV
06-03-2008, 11:45 AM
If you go to www.nevada4ronpaul.com you will find a chip-in for the convention. Also, if you will please email NV GOP headquarters info@nevadagop.org and urge them to work to get this June 28th date publicized and officially attended, it will be very beneficial to the party's credibility. Releasing the delegates list would be extremely helpful. Another thought, email to Bob Beers bobbeers@bobbeers.net and ask him to pick up the gavel on June 28th. There is no reason not to be firm, giving positive reasons to reconvene, while remaining respectful at this point.

Here's the previous post from the NV to Convene Thread:

I heard this morning on KKOH radio the following: The "takeover group" might have a sanctioning problem because only certain people can call the meeting to order and none of those people are involved with the Ron Paul movement who are setting up the June 28 reconvenence. Bob Beers says: “good luck with that. We are not even sure that NV GOP can get together a quorum for the reconvening we are planning and may have to call for a mail-in ballot.”

If Bob Beers does not pick up that gavel on June 28th, so far as I am concerned, he is done in this State. I really think the true villian is the RNC in DC and Sue Lowden and other Las Vegas leadership, but if Bob Beers can't fulfill his duties as chairman when people gather, then now can he lead elsewhere? Does anyone know how we can check on who can legally (not that they bother with legalities unless it suit them) pick up the gavel and call the meeting to order. I was thinking it might be any Republican congressman, senator, or Party officer, but a quick run through the various rules, didn't reveal it to me. Dean Heller, Congressman from NV, has stated his eagerness to proceed, even when others are silent, so I've written to him saying he'd be "the people's hero" if he stepped up. Hmmmmmm?

pepperpete1
06-03-2008, 02:34 PM
If you go to www.nevada4ronpaul.com you will find a chip-in for the convention. Also, if you will please email NV GOP headquarters info@nevadagop.org and urge them to work to get this June 28th date publicized and officially attended, it will be very beneficial to the party's credibility. Releasing the delegates list would be extremely helpful. Another thought, email to Bob Beers bobbeers@bobbeers.net and ask him to pick up the gavel on June 28th. There is no reason not to be firm, giving positive reasons to reconvene, while remaining respectful at this point.

Here's the previous post from the NV to Convene Thread:

I heard this morning on KKOH radio the following: The "takeover group" might have a sanctioning problem because only certain people can call the meeting to order and none of those people are involved with the Ron Paul movement who are setting up the June 28 reconvenence. Bob Beers says: “good luck with that. We are not even sure that NV GOP can get together a quorum for the reconvening we are planning and may have to call for a mail-in ballot.”

If Bob Beers does not pick up that gavel on June 28th, so far as I am concerned, he is done in this State. I really think the true villian is the RNC in DC and Sue Lowden and other Las Vegas leadership, but if Bob Beers can't fulfill his duties as chairman when people gather, then now can he lead elsewhere? Does anyone know how we can check on who can legally (not that they bother with legalities unless it suit them) pick up the gavel and call the meeting to order. I was thinking it might be any Republican congressman, senator, or Party officer, but a quick run through the various rules, didn't reveal it to me. Dean Heller, Congressman from NV, has stated his eagerness to proceed, even when others are silent, so I've written to him saying he'd be "the people's hero" if he stepped up. Hmmmmmm?


(b) A Convention not yet Organized. Such a convention is similar to a mass meeting, already described in 69, in that when called to order it has no constitution, by-laws, or officers. It has the added difficulty of determining who are entitled to vote. In the mass meeting every one may vote, but in the convention none but properly appointed delegates may vote, and sometimes this is a very difficult question to determine justly. The convention must have been called by some committee, or body of men, who should have secured the hall and made the preliminary arrangements for the meeting. If the convention is a very large one, so that it is necessary to reserve the main floor of the hall for the delegates, the committee should allow only those to enter who have prima facie evidence of their right to membership, and in contested cases both sides should be admitted. The chairman of the committee should call the convention to order, and either he or some one the committee has selected for the purpose should nominate a temporary chairman and a temporary secretary. Next should come the appointment of a committee on credentials, whose duty it is to examine all credentials and report a list of all the delegates who are entitled to seats in the convention. When alternates have been appointed they should be reported also. While the committee on credentials is out, committees may be appointed on nominations of officers, on rules, and on order of business or program. In a large convention of this kind all committees should be appointed by the chair, and no one whose right to a seat is questioned should be placed on a committee until the convention has acted favorably on his case. Until the committee on credentials has reported, no business can be done except to authorize the chair to appoint the above mentioned committees. While waiting for the committee on credentials to report, the time is usually spent in listening to speeches. When the committee reports, the procedure is the same as just described in an organized convention. When that report has been adopted, the convention proceeds to its permanent organization, acting upon the reports of the other three committees previously appointed, taking them in such order as the convention pleases. When these reports have been acted upon, the convention is organized, with members, officers, rules, and program, and its business is transacted as in other organized deliberative assemblies. If the convention adopts rules only for the session, the committee on rules need recommend only a few rules as to the hours for beginning the meetings, the length of the speeches, etc., and a rule adopting some standard rules of order, where not in conflict with its other rules. If it is not intended to make a permanent organization, the organization just described is all that is necessary.

Before putting the motion to adjourn, the chair, in most organizations, should be sure that no important matters have been overlooked. If there are announcements to be made they should be attended to before taking the vote, or at least, before announcing it. If there is something requiring action before adjournment, the fact should be stated and the mover requested to withdraw his motion to adjourn. The fact that the motion to adjourn is undebatable does not prevent the assembly's being informed of business requiring attention before adjournment. Members should not leave their seats until the chair has declared the assembly adjourned.
An adjournment sine die -- that is, without day -- closes the session and if there is no provision for convening the assembly again, of course the adjournment dissolves the assembly. But, if any provision has been made whereby another meeting may be held, its effect is simply to close the session. In an assembly, as a convention, which meets regularly only once during its life, but whose by-laws provide for calling special meetings, an adjournment sine die means only the ending of the regular session of the convention, which, however, may be reconvened as provided in the by-laws. If called to meet again the assembly meets as a body already organized.
When the motion to adjourn is qualified in any way, or when its effect is to dissolve the assembly without any provision being made for holding another meeting of the assembly, it loses its privilege and is a main motion, debatable and amendable and subject to having applied to it any of the subsidiary motions.


Nevada –NRCC: ARTICLE 14: PARLIAMENTARY AUTHORITY
Section 1. Where not superseded by the Rules of the Republican National Committee, these Bylaws or the Nevada Revised Statutes not in conflict with the foregoing, the latest revision which has been in publication for at least two years of AROBERT=S RULES OF ORDER NEWLY REVISED@, shall govern all proceedings not set forth herein.

pauletteNV
06-03-2008, 03:41 PM
I've read those clauses, but how do you think they influence what is happening and the claim that there is a sanction that only certain people can call a "recessed" convention back to order? Some claim it has to be Bob Beers who does so...well, I doubt that is going to happen. But if indeed the convention was illegally recessed, maybe none of the rules are valid anymore. I know there are attorneys and parlimentarians who can interpret all of this, but I'm just looking for the ways hq can sabotage our efforts....or better yet, we their's :D

Sandra
06-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Check with the venue at which the convened convention was held and ask about the contractual details in this sneaky way:

We have the word of the NVGOP, so apparantly the venue manager was to blame for cutting the convention short. "Complain" to the manager of that venue for screwing up the nominating process with his petty rules. He'll throw blame on the NVGOP.

pauletteNV
06-03-2008, 07:42 PM
Did anyone catch the full newscast information on KRNV, Ch. 4 at 6PM? I missed all but the last few seconds where it was reported that Zachary Moye, Exec Director of the NV GOP said the Executive Committee was meeting tonight to decide on the date for reconvening. Then a letter will go out in a week or so, to all delegates asking whether they can attend to make the quorum. And then, something about any results from a June 28th convention, should it take place, would be against NV rules and the results not valid, or some such. Anyone hear the whole clip or have it on tape?

MozoVote
06-03-2008, 08:40 PM
Newscast tonight... (fast forward to 8:00 mark). Not any real updates, other than the NVGOP still appears to be stonewalling and not talking to the media.

KNRV news block 1 (http://www.krnv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=2550870&h1=Special%20Edition%20of%20News%204%20Block%201&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=929667&LaunchPageAdTag=Video%20Player&activePane=info&rnd=53854936)

torchbearer
06-04-2008, 10:10 AM
Newscast tonight... (fast forward to 8:00 mark). Not any real updates, other than the NVGOP still appears to be stonewalling and not talking to the media.

KNRV news block 1 (http://www.krnv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=2550870&h1=Special%20Edition%20of%20News%204%20Block%201&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=929667&LaunchPageAdTag=Video%20Player&activePane=info&rnd=53854936)

video unavailable?

pauletteNV
06-04-2008, 01:13 PM
But, here's a write up about what Moyle and Beers are claiming in today's Reno Gazette Journal:

http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080604/NEWS19/806040426/1321/NEWS

Check out the comments....quite interesting. I am just wondering if they will claim the NV GOP rules or national RNC rules override Roberts Rules....?