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surf
06-02-2008, 01:55 PM
Ok, so this isn't getting the press it deserves, but i'd like to say that i'm extremely proud of all the delegates that stayed the course and deftly passed a wonderful anti-war resolution.

The passage of this resolution should make all Washington State Ron Paul supporters extremely proud :cool: You delegates to State did an outstanding job working against a numerically strong yet mentally infantile group of neocons.

hell, this should make all of us proud

acptulsa
06-02-2008, 01:58 PM
Wow. Just wow. This is the kind of thing that makes me proud to have switched from the big I to the big R!

yongrel
06-02-2008, 01:59 PM
woot! Takin' back the GOP!

surf
06-02-2008, 03:06 PM
email from meetup organizer


Friends,

Counter to anything you'll hear from the media, the Washington State GOP convention was a great victory for the forces of freedom. Despite the opposition of the leadership, the imposition of unfair rules and abundant cheating and dirty tricks by the McCain campaign and party leadership, we elected 10% of the state?s delegation to national, made some great changes to the platform, and adopted a resolution renouncing all military actions not authorized by a formal declaration of war. Repeat: IT IS NOW THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE WASHINGTON STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT ONLY MILITARY ACTIONS AUTHORIZED BY A FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR ARE LEGITIMATE.

We had over 600 energized, intelligent and hard working delegates present at the convention. A special thanks to everyone who showed up and helped make this weekend something special. You know who you are.

Lucille
06-02-2008, 03:21 PM
Most excellent! Well done!

Badger Paul
06-02-2008, 03:23 PM
Cool!

speciallyblend
06-02-2008, 07:33 PM
Sweet High Five

OptionsTrader
06-02-2008, 07:36 PM
I love Ron Paul supporters in Washington state.

TheConstitutionLives
06-02-2008, 07:43 PM
Cool! I want some press on this so I can spread it around.

Aidyl
06-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Great job guys, your hard work definitely paid off. Seeing news stories like this makes me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel...;)

ronpaulhawaii
06-02-2008, 08:09 PM
:D WA still kickin butt and taking names

pepperpete1
06-02-2008, 08:29 PM
:D WA still kickin butt and taking names

You guys did a tremendous job. Now will someone there step up to the plate and file a challenge for the establishment GOP breaking the rules and running rough shod over the duly elected delegates. They definitely broke rule # 15. Let the RNC know of their shenanigans!

amy31416
06-02-2008, 08:35 PM
Wow. Just fantastic.

Washington and Idaho--areas very friendly to those of our ilk. Believe me, Northern Idaho/Spokane area are on my list of best places in America right now.

TXcarlosTX
06-02-2008, 09:18 PM
good job!!


but wait for texas!!!


and remember the ALAMO!!!

surf
06-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Big ups to Spokane. Thank the Spokane group, the Vancouver area, and all the CD organizers. I guess the delegates from my legislative district helped get that resolution passed by all walking out of the convention :)

i'm still a bit pissed that my district elected folks that would leave the convention when they should have elected me and some of my friends - we'd have stayed

Sandra
06-02-2008, 10:01 PM
CHALLENGE!!!!!!!!!!!

ClockwiseSpark
06-02-2008, 10:58 PM
You guys did a tremendous job. Now will someone there step up to the plate and file a challenge for the establishment GOP breaking the rules and running rough shod over the duly elected delegates. They definitely broke rule # 15. Let the RNC know of their shenanigans!

All I can say is the folks who have been working on this tirelessly for months are now re energized due to the poor behavior of the GOP. Whether a challenge materializes, I've heard talk of it but we'll see.

Either way, Luke Esser and friends are in for a big surprise in the upcoming elections. ;)

Kalifornia
06-02-2008, 11:00 PM
Those of you involved in the reclaiming of the WA GOP, someone send me a PM, Ill be registering to vote there in August, and I want to get involved ASAP.

SLSteven
06-02-2008, 11:03 PM
Awesome work patriots!

tomveil
06-02-2008, 11:05 PM
Big ups to Spokane. Thank the Spokane group, the Vancouver area, and all the CD organizers. I guess the delegates from my legislative district helped get that resolution passed by all walking out of the convention :)

i'm still a bit pissed that my district elected folks that would leave the convention when they should have elected me and some of my friends - we'd have stayed

They didn't leave early, they walked out to try to get us to not debate the resolutions. Fortunately, there were enough McCain supporters that didn't listen to their leaders that it didn't work. Once the quorum was established, they all came running back in. It was quite funny.

Doktor_Jeep
06-02-2008, 11:33 PM
I was there.

Congressional District 2, Legislative District 39. Snohomish.

We knew we were not going to win this delegate battle, so we displayed "party unity" to get at least a few Ron Paul delegates (one of which they tried to bribe already) on the slate and then it was time for party plank.

On the plank, we waged a major battle to to get the Second Amendment specifically recognized. Then we attempted to get an amendment against the Veterans Disarmament Act and that failed. It appears McCain's supporters favor disarming combat veterans.

The real fight came over the resolutions.

There were 2 stacks of resolutions. One stack marked "Y" for yes, and the other marked "N" for no. The Y stack was full of the usual Republican fluff. Border security, strong defense, etc.

We all voted to pass the Y pile as a whole, because we wanted to get the N pile worked on. This was AFTER failing to get to the N pile first.

You see, the N pile of resolutions had things in it like the anti-undeclared-war resolution, and other Paulian goodies like getting rid of the Income tax, no Real ID, and telling the UN to shove it.

So after giving the McCain people what they wanted, so to get what we wanted - a chance to vote on the N pile, the McCain people were then instructed by the suit-wearing traitorous hacks to leave the floor. I saw Geri Modrell, Snohomish County Republican Chair, go up to the 3 McCain supporters in front of me, whisper something to them, and they got up and left.

We thought a deal was struck. Aesops Scorpion comes to mind. I knew it was going to happen when I discovered there was a deal.

You see, the McCain people were using two groups of people with red and yellow hats, and large YES and NO signs to tell all McCain delegates what to vote on each issue. The Ron Paul delegates did not have that. There was something similar to it, we all had a leader to look to for "advice" on the floor but the voting went very fast and there was too much chaos. What the McCain people and delegates did was not illegal, by the way. In fact it's done often in conventions like this.

Part of the deal however was that Ron Paul delegates would agree on the "unity slate" of delegates (that had some Ron Paul delegates on it, which was better than nothing) and in return, the McCain people would dump the signs and the hats and allow the delegates to vote like real Americans, not votebots.

It was over the resolutions where they showed their true colors. The N pile was full of all the truly conservative subjects that the Republican party has abandoned over the years, since Reagan. But it was obvious what was going to happen after they showed their support for taking guns away from the men and women who served our country and "fought for freedom" as the neocons put it.

The idea of leaving was to deny quorum. With too few people, there would be no quorum and therefore the convention would be finished. So we did a head count, and the McCain people thought there were not enough of us, and we had enough to continue.

To the credit of some McCain delegates, they did not obey the party hacks and they stayed. Yes, even a McCain delegate can have some integrity sometimes.

What was interesting was at the point that we found we still had a quorum. I saw roughly a dozen people - McCain operatives and lemmings, go running out to get the McCain delegates back in. Seeing the looks on their faces was a great thing. I would imagine it to be comparable to the expression of a rapist right before he gets shot by an intended victim.

During the time it took for the McCain delegates to come running back in - and it took time because most of them are miserable old codgers who have raped and ruined this country for a generation and are not good on their feet - we managed to pass that anti-war resolution. We concentrated on that. We stabbed the devil in the heart.

Then once they were back in place, the games started again and they began to tie up the convention with dilutory moves. On Friday the Ron Paul people asked many times for a roll call vote and Luke Esser, the convention chair at that time, never allowed a vote on it. What he did was illegal.

So for a massive delaying tactic the McCain people managed to get a roll call vote to end the convention. They only had around 15 more votes than we did.

Of course by this time conservative talk show host Kirby Wilbur was the chair and he did everything he could to be fair to all of the delegates. I saw his face when it was obvious what the McCain delegation did, and he looked like he was going to cry. He knew what they did was wrong, and he was ashamed.

What I remark most was how the McCain hacks, young guys in suits led by old guys who looked like they spent most of their lives being politicians or cops, would pester and insult the Ron Paul delegates, and if such measures were given back to them, they would go running to get a cop and make false claims of harrassment or threats.
This is what the police state is really for, so they can screw you and then use it as a weapon to control you.

I saw people cry, some from so much rage and frustration they had no other recourse (especially with cops glaring at them ready to bust out the tasers on behalf of McCain) and others wept for they realized their country was gone.

And I cried too. But not for what I just described.

Once I took a course in public speaking and usually such courses start with a multiple choice survey that proves how on the average people are more afraid of speaking in front of a large crowd then losing their lives.

I saw trained and experienced McCain hacks go to a microphone and spew their lies and poison, delivering parliamentary tricks with such smugness and arrogance you would not believe.

But the Ron Paul delegates, most of them young, went up there and did their best, THEIR BEST!!! to stop them.

The venue had over 1000 people in it, with cameras that would put you on two large screens flanking the podium.

The Ron Paul delegates were scared, had trouble putting the words together and adhering to Roberts Rules of Order, and many of them actually trembled.

But they were still there, doing their best, and that reminded me of young farmers standing in the fields of colonial America, with musket in hand, facing the largest military force in the world. I saw them shaking, scared all the same, with the same look on their faces.

But they too stood their ground.

After the convention, we rallied and marched around the convention center. The McCain delegates stayed inside, afraid to come out, except for a few of their operatives who attempted to start a fight. We did not fall for it.

What happened that day was a victory for us. For we proved what the McCain delegation, and what the republican party, was really all about. We shined a small ray of truth into that pit of hell and the beast recoiled. Every encounter thereafter in the local taverns with McCain people was the same: none of them could make eye contact with us. Most of them snuck away for there were few McCain buttons or signs to be seen.

And we have not yet begun to fight. The revolution will continue, we will stand our ground, and we will win, one way or the other.

RonPaulGuyEastWA
06-03-2008, 12:33 AM
I was there.

Congressional District 2, Legislative District 39. Snohomish.

We knew we were not going to win this delegate battle, so we displayed "party unity" to get at least a few Ron Paul delegates (one of which they tried to bribe already) on the slate and then it was time for party plank.

To clarify, there was never a deal made to get Paul delegates - we earned those fair and square with a majority in 2 of the congressional districts. The "deal" was to hurry up and vote the pre-selected "McCain only" slate through so we could get down to platform business. We knew fighting the McCain slate would just waste time.



The venue had over 1000 people in it, with cameras that would put you on two large screens flanking the podium.

The Ron Paul delegates were scared, had trouble putting the words together and adhering to Roberts Rules of Order, and many of them actually trembled.

But they were still there, doing their best, and that reminded me of young farmers standing in the fields of colonial America, with musket in hand, facing the largest military force in the world. I saw them shaking, scared all the same, with the same look on their faces.

But they too stood their ground.

I was one of those young folks at the microphone and I was initially nervous...but I learned something about myself this weekend. When I am pissed off, even if it's a huge crowd, all my nervousness disappears and is replaced by anger and a firm resolve to fight for what is right. Thanks to many (not all) of the morally bankrupt McCain folks who helped me realize that!

RPTXState
06-03-2008, 12:47 AM
When I am pissed off, even if it's a huge crowd, all my nervousness disappears and is replaced by anger and a firm resolve to fight for what is right.

Fury is the courage of the meek.

Not sure who said that...if noone has, then I just did...

Doktor_Jeep
06-03-2008, 12:57 AM
Much of the victory in Washington is owed to Spokane. I consider it a stronghold of liberty.

King County can, we hope, slide into the bay when the next earthquake hits, for all I care. Those bastards. You would think the republicans surrounded by so many socialists would be more resistant, but it appears they got zombie-bitten.

ClockwiseSpark
06-03-2008, 01:44 AM
Much of the victory in Washington is owed to Spokane. I consider it a stronghold of liberty.

King County can, we hope, slide into the bay when the next earthquake hits, for all I care. Those bastards. You would think the republicans surrounded by so many socialists would be more resistant, but it appears they got zombie-bitten.

Spokane did an amazing job. I am really impressed with the all the organizers who were involved with that.

Don't dismiss King County though, had they not staged the walk out we wouldn't have been able to alter the platform.

Perhaps we should send them fruit baskets.

STRATIOTES
06-03-2008, 06:49 AM
At the county Caucus for 2nd district Snohomish county the chair conspired with delegates before the meeting in order to shut off all Ron Paul delegates from making any motions.

I now know for sure the ultimate victory belongs to the truth, the "short term win by any means necessary criminals" can not see how their actions doom them in the long run.

The Soldiers of truth are on the march and the leviathan is on the run.

Eric21ND
06-03-2008, 07:28 AM
could've you replaced the chair when you had control of the floor when they walked?

STRATIOTES
06-03-2008, 08:15 AM
could've you replaced the chair when you had control of the floor when they walked?

It takes a 2/3rds majority to suspend the rules and we could not do that without help from some McCain delegates, they dared not debate at all, every time debate took place some McCain delegates would swing to the conservative side just as some delegates stayed in their seats during the walk out and were sorry to be counted as McCain supporters when they witnessed such cowardly behaviour.

Truth logic reason can win the day when people think for themselves, many out of order speeches were made to convince people to vote their heart and conscience and it was working that is why the McCain leadership had their supporters walk out, they can not debate the issues, they can not stand the light of reason.

The first motion should have been to extend the time, the war declaration was retaliation for the McCain people not keeping their promise, when all is said and done it worked out just fine, we have already won the high ground.

acptulsa
06-03-2008, 08:29 AM
Spokane did an amazing job. I am really impressed with the all the organizers who were involved with that.

Don't dismiss King County though, had they not staged the walk out we wouldn't have been able to alter the platform.

Perhaps we should send them fruit baskets.

Great job. As any little league coach would say, that was a real heads up play! Well, Spokane isn't far from Idaho. Can you get Larry Craig to get in the basket, though?

Good stuff, people!

JK/SEA
06-03-2008, 09:05 AM
I'm still puzzled why Lew Moore endorsed McCain.

After his speech, and all the crap that followed i couldn't stay for saturday. My temper is my worst enemy. Thanks Lew.

Still, after all this BS i witnessed, i'm still firmly a believer and supporter of the Ron Paul movement.

As an aside, i did manage to talk to Lew and Maureen Moore at the picnic, and thanked Maureen for all her hard work, and then i looked at Lew and said '' i'm not done with Ron Paul yet, and i'm looking forward to being a PCO to change the party'', then shook his hand and said 'thanks' and left.

STRATIOTES
06-03-2008, 10:59 AM
I'm still puzzled why Lew Moore endorsed McCain..

Lew did not out-right endorse McCain he did what in my opinion was a strategy move to get a little better attack angle for the rest of the Ron Paul strategists and delegates.

Lew is not a zealous berzerk cage type fighter, he uses the more passive form resistance and why quite a few freedom warriors were mad from the beginning about his method of campaigning.

Maureen is the attack dog of the team and more of a aggressive campaigner.

Doktor_Jeep
06-04-2008, 08:45 PM
Having learned what part of Washington Maureen was raised in, I would be carefull not to piss her off.

I have seen some previous mentions, and criticism, of Lew Moore's style. However I think this was intentional. The Ron Paul movement has been, and remained, very self-propelled. I think they intended it that way. Putting top-dog politico uber hacks on the job would not have been the high road for the message of this campaign.

BLuegreengrey
06-04-2008, 09:08 PM
cheers

surf
06-04-2008, 09:20 PM
Anyone have a copy of the resolution that was passed they could post? I'd love it if the news sites saw what the WSRP resolved.

Agent CSL
06-04-2008, 09:25 PM
Yay. ^_^

CurtisLow
06-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Great job all! My hat is off to ya.
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Taco John
06-04-2008, 11:12 PM
I love Ron Paul supporters in Washington state.

I'm still putting up Ron Paul signs in Vancouver. :)

surf
06-05-2008, 10:36 PM
anti war resolution:


Constitutional Declarations of War by the House of Representatives
WHEREAS, The People must bear the burden of fighting wars, and WHEREAS, The House of Representatives is the voice of the people, and
WHEREAS, The Founders recognized these realities by granting the House of Representatives the power to declare war, and
WHEREAS, The House is not authorized to delegate, to others, authorities granted it, and
WHEREAS, military actions in Korea, Viet Nam and now the middle east, the House authorized the use of force by the President, in effect delegating to the executive branch the House's authority to declare war, and
WHEREAS, three generations of military personnel have served their nation without the full support of The People in those military actions, now
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Republican Party should support formal declarations of war passed by the House of Representatives and repudiate "authorizations to use force" or any other delegation of war declaration powers to any other body.

surf
06-05-2008, 10:39 PM
repeal the 16th amendment resolution (also passed by Washington State Republican Party)


Repeal the 16th Amendment
WHEREAS, the Founders created a Federal Government which was not allowed to levy an income tax on its Citizens, and
WHEREAS, it is clear from the debates surrounding the adoption of the 16th Amendment that its original intent was not to burden average families and their small enterprises either monetarily or legally, and
WHEREAS, the reality of the income tax burden on average families and small enterprises has grown to consume a substantial portion of their financial and legal resources, and
WHEREAS, the legitimacy of the government is increasingly called into question by the incomprehensible morass of legislation that inevitably follows from attempts to put into place income tax exemptions that salvage average families and small enterprises, now
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Republican Party should support the repeal of the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution.

ClockwiseSpark
06-06-2008, 01:27 AM
Whatcom County GOP Chairman confronted as he leaves the convention floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-19jwACT_k

surf
06-06-2008, 01:11 PM
bump. was Lori Sotello (sp?) - the King County Chairman one of the walkout leaders?

freelance
06-06-2008, 01:42 PM
WOW! Can you help me to understand how that resolution squares with support for 100-years McCain. How can anyone who supports that resolution vote for McCain? Sounds to me like the Washington McCain delegates might have some 'spanin' to do in St. Paul! LOL! I'd love to hear their rationale.

JK/SEA
06-06-2008, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty certain the old guard GOP that support McWar who WALKED out in an attempt to break quorum are...'upset' these resolutions passed without them. Oh well....HEHEHE...

I may send a box of crying towels to the GOP HQ in Bellevue Wa.

Aratus
06-06-2008, 01:53 PM
two thumbs up!!! way to go WASHINGTON STATE rEVOLUTIOn people!!!