Ron Paul will endorse nobody.

[Anti Federalist]

I've come to that conclusion.

And it is certainly in keeping with his non-authoritarian, "bottom up" style.

He will end up not endorsing anyone, leaving it to ourselves to advance freedom candidates and the freedom movement as best we see fit.

So, those of you hoping for a RP endorsement of somebody, anybody, I would stop waiting.

It's all on us.

[wgadget]

Dang, responsibility is so cumbersome at times....Ya mean we have to do our HOMEWORK?

[Madison]

Not to mention the fact he's still in the race...not wise to endorse another candidate when in that position.

[MMolloy]

Dang, responsibility is so cumbersome at times....Ya mean we have to do our HOMEWORK?

:eek:

LOL

[yongrel]

Good.

[Conza88]

Ron Paul endorses Freedom, Liberty, Peace and Prosperity. ;)

[Alex Libman]

I understand why he won't endorse anybody now - he himself is technically still running, and he wants other candidates to stand on their own legs and compete for a while. If by September no other independent libertarian (i.e. Mary Ruwart) jumps into the race, and Barr is polling far ahead of theocrat Baldwin (which is my prediction) - I hope Paul will endorse Barr then, and even campaign for him. If he doesn't, I'll consider the money I've donated to Paul a waste.

[crazyfingers]

If he doesn't, I'll consider the money I've donated to Paul a waste.

If Paul endorses Barr I'll lose all respect for him. Fortunately I don't have to worry about that as it will never happen.

[Maltheus]

If he endorses anyone, it'll be Chuck Baldwin since they're almost identical on the issues and Baldwin was one of the few supporting Paul early on, even staying out of the race until Paul declared that he wasn't going to win.

[Alex Libman]

I've lost a lot of respect for Paul when he refused to leave the neocon party this year. Now he needs someone else to take the "revolution" all the way to November 4th, and Bob Barr is the most (small-l) libertarian candidate in the race so far. Bashing him only helps McCain.

Baldwin is worse than McCain on every issue except state's rights and taxes.

[pcosmar]

I am waiting for Sept.
It is going to be interesting.

"I ain't heard no Fat Lady."

[Nyte]

Ron Paul endorsed one of our local revolutionaries for State Representative.

No, it's not an endorsement for a presidential candidate, but it is something.

[Maltheus]

Baldwin is worse than McCain on every issue except state's rights and taxes.

Just curious since I haven't been able to find anything yet, but in what ways does Baldwin diverge from Paul? They almost seem like clones on every issue. Are you saying that Paul is worse than McCain, or am I missing something here?

[qh4dotcom]

I've come to that conclusion.

And it is certainly in keeping with his non-authoritarian, "bottom up" style.

He will end up not endorsing anyone, leaving it to ourselves to advance freedom candidates and the freedom movement as best we see fit.

So, those of you hoping for a RP endorsement of somebody, anybody, I would stop waiting.

It's all on us.

He has already endorsed several Ron Paul Republicans like BJ Lawson and Amit Singh

[mrchubbs]

If Paul endorses Barr I'll lose all respect for him. Fortunately I don't have to worry about that as it will never happen.

Did you lose all respect for him when he endorsed the war loving Paul Broun??

Or how about Walter Jones who voted FOR the Iraq authorization?

Apparently Ron Paul can forgive people their voting history (and even current beliefs in the case of Broun) yet his supporters can not.

I'll take my lesson from Ron Paul and forgive Barr his past transgressions.

Enjoy.

[pinkmandy]

If by September no other independent libertarian (i.e. Mary Ruwart) jumps into the race, and Barr is polling far ahead of theocrat Baldwin (which is my prediction) - I hope Paul will endorse Barr then, and even campaign for him. If he doesn't, I'll consider the money I've donated to Paul a waste.


Campaign for Barr? Like Barr campaigned for him? And let's not forget Root...I'd be shocked if Paul supported that ticket after Root's comments about Paul last year. I think you probably wasted your money if that's what you want to call contributing to spreading the most important message of our times. You weren't buying Paul's endorsement of a Barr/Root ticket.

[MozoVote]

Paul does not endorse candidates outside the GOP. Don't run around acting like this is a big surprise.

If anything, the R3VOL got Paul to make more endorsements than he usually would. He's normally pretty sparse with them.

[RideTheDirt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=injMAeS9P2Q&feature=related around 2:00 in
he's not going to endorse anyone

[LibertyCzar]

As a Republican, he can only endorse another Republican. However, he can still have influence by giving an opinion of a particular candidate. For example, by saying that McKinney is a socialist isn't going to direct any Ron Paul voters to McKinney. On the other hand, saying Barr is a friend and would be a pretty good president would direct Ron Paul voters to Barr.

[Karsten]

I've lost a lot of respect for Paul when he refused to leave the neocon party this year. Now he needs someone else to take the "revolution" all the way to November 4th, and Bob Barr is the most (small-l) libertarian candidate in the race so far. Bashing him only helps McCain.

Me too. Bob Barr has absolutely no grassroots following, though. Check out his meetups. When Paul's meetups first started they were sometimes doubling every day. However, there is not a Barr meetup with more than 1 or 2 people within 1000 miles from me. Barr is entirely media driven, pretty much the opposite of Ron Paul. If Barr is already polling at 6-8%, I think Ron Paul could have well beaten this. I know of many people here in California who liked Ron Paul but didn't vote for him because they were not Republican. I believe Ron Paul never reached his potential by deciding not to run 3rd party.

The arguments he used for not doing so were stupid...

"You can't get on ballots" -- The LP has ballot access in 48 states and DC, which is a hell of a lot more than the 1 ballot he will be on (congressional district) in november.

"You can't get in the debates" -- In hypothetical 3 way matchups RP was already polling at 11%. If Bob Barr thinks he can get in the debates, I don't see why Ron Paul couldn't have tried to.

And Ron Paul could have held the movement together by going third party. Now, unfortunatly, the movement is splintered. This forum has a lot fewer people on it than before. A lot of people simply went back to their everyday lives. Some people started supporting Obama, some Baldwin, and some Barr. My many meetup friends that I used to see at least once a month have pretty much been inactive for a few months now.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I've lost a lot of respect for Paul when he refused to leave the neocon party this year. Now he needs someone else to take the "revolution" all the way to November 4th, and Bob Barr is the most (small-l) libertarian candidate in the race so far. Bashing him only helps McCain.

Baldwin is worse than McCain on every issue except state's rights and taxes.

Certainly no use bashing Barr. If Ron Paul quit the Republican Party he would have lost his House seat which would have been a blow. I think he is playing things pretty smart personally. Barr won't be on the ballot here in WV anyway and I'm not sure about Baldwin.

I would have to do more research on Baldwin.

[Thomas_Paine]

I've lost a lot of respect for Paul when he refused to leave the neocon party this year. Now he needs someone else to take the "revolution" all the way to November 4th, and Bob Barr is the most (small-l) libertarian candidate in the race so far. Bashing him only helps McCain.

Baldwin is worse than McCain on every issue except state's rights and taxes.

Alex, we are taking over the GOP, the tide is turning against the Neo-Cons, there numbers are getting smaller, ours are growing. Once we begin to take over the leadership positions we will have the keys to winning future elections.

Your characterization of Baldwin is untrue, you are uniformed or you have your own agenda.

Neither Barr nor Baldwin can fill the shoes of Dr. Paul, but I probably will be voting for Barr in November.

The Libertarian party (I say this as a former Libertarian) has a great difficultly in winning elections, they are easily contained. However when you run as a Republican you can actually go somewhere, look at all the Ron Paul Republicans that are winning primaries!! We are simply returning the Republican Party to their roots, just like Dr. Paul has said.

[FreedomRings]

I believe Ron Paul never reached his potential by deciding not to run 3rd party.

The arguments he used for not doing so were stupid...

"You can't get on ballots" -- The LP has ballot access in 48 states and DC, which is a hell of a lot more than the 1 ballot he will be on (congressional district) in november.

"You can't get in the debates" -- In hypothetical 3 way matchups RP was already polling at 11%. If Bob Barr thinks he can get in the debates, I don't see why Ron Paul couldn't have tried to.

And Ron Paul could have held the movement together by going third party. Now, unfortunatly, the movement is splintered. This forum has a lot fewer people on it than before. A lot of people simply went back to their everyday lives. Some people started supporting Obama, some Baldwin, and some Barr. My many meetup friends that I used to see at least once a month have pretty much been inactive for a few months now.

+1

Not running independent/third party was either his biggest blunder or his biggest gamble which might pay off in case McCain drops out and RP gets the nomination, or at least a prominent position in a GOP President's cabinet.

Also consider that if RP had gone third party, the neocons would have launched a number of other candidates (Bloomberg, Dobbs etc.) to distract attention away from him. There might be a lot of other things we don't know... they could have threatened Ron Paul or his family... others were killed for much less than what RP did.

Finally, RP might be "controlled opposition"... with the purpose to first unite the movement and then lead it towards phantom goals like squabbling with the GOP establishment rather than changing the country and the world. Very unlikely it was planned that way but it would be foolish not to at least consider the possibility.

[FreedomRings]

Just to clarify... RP himself is not "controlled opposition" but maybe he was manipulated or steered into the current direction by others. The reasons given ("You can't get on ballots", "You can't get in the debates") do make you wonder... why doesn't he tell us what's really going on?

[JMann]

I hope that after the convention Dr. Paul does make an endorsement. It would be a shame to not let his large number of supporters know who he would like to win in November.

[JMann]

Did you lose all respect for him when he endorsed the war loving Paul Broun??

Or how about Walter Jones who voted FOR the Iraq authorization?

Apparently Ron Paul can forgive people their voting history (and even current beliefs in the case of Broun) yet his supporters can not.

I'll take my lesson from Ron Paul and forgive Barr his past transgressions.

Enjoy.

If Paul only supported people that where 100% Ron Paul pure then he wouldn't be able to support anyone. Dr. Paul has enough sense to understand that some people, regardless of faults, are better than others. Walter Jones Jr. is one of the few good guys so you shouldn't be too down on him.

[mrchubbs]

If Paul only supported people that where 100% Ron Paul pure then he wouldn't be able to support anyone. Dr. Paul has enough sense to understand that some people, regardless of faults, are better than others. Walter Jones Jr. is one of the few good guys so you shouldn't be too down on him.

I'm not down on Jones. I like him. I was trying to make the point that even Ron Paul has forgiven or ignored some poor votes in other candidates' histories and come out supporting them. So why can't those attacking Barr take a lesson from Paul, open their minds a bit and do the same?

Enjoy.

[familydog]

So why can't those attacking Barr take a lesson from Paul, open their minds a bit and do the same?

Enjoy.

If Ron Paul endorses Bob Barr, I'm sure many will. Besides, pointing out a candiates record is not attacking.

[Anti Federalist]

He has already endorsed several Ron Paul Republicans like BJ Lawson and Amit Singh

Perhaps I wasn't clear.

I should have clarified - "for President".