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Rhys
06-02-2008, 12:03 AM
I wasn't born yet, but was he right? I keep wondering if we should have let him continue to route out commies.... or was he just on a witch hunt?

RSLudlum
06-02-2008, 12:19 AM
I wasn't born yet, but was he right? I keep wondering if we should have let him continue to route out commies.... ?

what? Yeah, like the GOP is routinely 'rejecting' our delegates?

RPTXState
06-02-2008, 12:40 AM
"Are you now, or have you ever been a supporter of Ron Paul?"

The "Liberty Scare" of '08

WRellim
06-02-2008, 01:32 AM
McCarthy was at least 20 years too late.... at least.

The "commies" (and "fascisti") that needed to be routed out... were running the federal government in the 1930's and 1940's.

newyearsrevolution08
06-02-2008, 01:38 AM
"Are you now, or have you ever been a supporter of Ron Paul?"

The "Liberty Scare" of '08

that actually does sound like something that would be asked, you just never know BUT if it got to that point I would hope we would finally STAND UP and take our nation back by whatever means necessary.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
06-02-2008, 01:47 AM
I'm sure I remember reading a tidbit where Paul himself criticized congress for "ousting McCarthy before he got the job done". The one thing that I don't like about him.

As bad as things are getting, I still couldn't consent to what McCarthy did. Aside from being immoral and misdirected, it was hypocritical. This is (intended to be) a free society, and as such, you have the right the be a card-carrying communist if you so please.

crazyfacedjenkins
06-02-2008, 01:55 AM
I wasn't born yet, but was he right? I keep wondering if we should have let him continue to route out commies.... or was he just on a witch hunt?

What!? You sound very brainwashed. You know that "communist" label is the same as the "terrorist" label they pull now? Same bullshit blanket term that is meaningless. I can see that you have been bent to the will of your corporate masters. Way to go!

rprprs
06-02-2008, 06:59 AM
I'm sure I remember reading a tidbit where Paul himself criticized congress for "ousting McCarthy before he got the job done". The one thing that I don't like about him.

As bad as things are getting, I still couldn't consent to what McCarthy did. Aside from being immoral and misdirected, it was hypocritical. This is (intended to be) a free society, and as such, you have the right the be a card-carrying communist if you so please.

Wow. Surprising, if true. Can anyone verify?

acptulsa
06-02-2008, 07:36 AM
Hard to say how much good McCarthy did before he turned to causing harm. Yes, we had communists. The vast majority were merely extreme liberals. Some, however, did turn over nuclear weapon secrets to the USSR because they didn't trust the American Powers that Were at the time. Why they thought Uncle Joe Stalin wasn't worse I'll never know, but I don't blame them for having their "what have I done?" moment over nuclear power. Nonetheless, it was treason and trusting it Stalin was an insult to their own reason--I don't know what they were thinking.

And, of course, one politician's "it's a dirty job but someone has to do it" is another politician's "hey, if I can keep this going it will get me reelected", and that's where "Tail Gunner Joe" comes in. Then the focus turned from the halls of weapons research to Hollywood and "the propaganda threat"--and straight off the rails.

I don't know how much was left to be done at the time. If there were more communists in positions where they could truly threaten the U.S. (and I think there were), Tail Gunner Joe was not going to get them. He had already decided that bank robbers were too hard to catch and he could make his quota more easily just hiding behind the billboard and surprising speeders. He was a lousy, corrupt cop, and letting him go on would have solved nothing.

pcosmar
06-02-2008, 08:04 AM
It was a Circus show.
A bunch of collectivists pointing fingers.

Look over there a collectivist.

Rangeley
06-02-2008, 08:41 AM
Wow. Surprising, if true. Can anyone verify?

A search for it comes up with this topic as the top link, so I tend to think it isnt true.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ron+paul+mccarthy+job+done&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Conza88
06-02-2008, 08:50 AM
It was a Circus show.
A bunch of collectivists pointing fingers.

Look over there a collectivist.

Hahah qft. Fascists trying find communists.. rather retarded.

And someone give me a credible link to that RP 'supporting' or agreeing with McCarthy, because I call MASSIVE BULLSHIT.

leonster
06-02-2008, 09:13 AM
From what I know... he was mostly correct in the big picture (covert Communists in government being a real problem), but mostly wrong in the specifics (*who* exactly was a Communist, etc.) and caused harm to many people as a result.

Truth Warrior
06-02-2008, 09:26 AM
The KGB released "secret" VENONA files and documents finally validated McCarthy's and other's RED claims.

The VENONA Files and the Alger Hiss Case
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/hissvenona.html

SilentBull
06-02-2008, 09:33 AM
I wasn't born yet, but was he right? I keep wondering if we should have let him continue to route out commies.... or was he just on a witch hunt?

Read "Fearful Master: A Second Look at the U.N." by G. Edward Griffin. There is your answer.