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XR500Final
06-01-2008, 07:08 PM
http://main.anomalicresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/emptyshelves.jpg

http://www.shadowstats.com/article/292

The SuperDepression has become a mathematical certainty, based upon a excellent research paper by John Williams of ShadowStats. In his report he has shown that at the current level of debt to GDP ratio if the US Government were to seize 100% of the GDP (aka your paycheques and the paycheques of the companies your work for) -they would still remain completely unable to meet their currently ballooning financial obligations.

- That this depression will be hyperinflationary (aka Weimer Republic Type HyperInflation)

"As to the fate of the developing U.S. great depression, it will encompass the fire of a hyperinflation, instead of the ice of deflation seen in the major U.S. depressions prior to World War II. What promises hyperinflation this time is the lack monetary discipline formerly imposed on the system by the gold standard, and a Federal Reserve dedicated to preventing a collapse in the money supply and the implosion of the still, extremely over-leveraged domestic financial system."


- That based on historical measures, the incumbent party will loose power

"In every presidential race since 1908, in which consistent, real (inflation-adjusted) annual disposable income growth was above 3.3%, the incumbent party holding the White House won every time. When income growth was below 3.3%, the incumbent party lost every time. Again, with redefinitions to the national income accounts in the last two decades, a consistent measure of disposable income as reported by the government has disappeared. Yet, even with official reporting, the current annual growth in real disposable income is at 2.2%, well below the traditional 3.3% limit."

- That 11 successive adminstrations have pushed the government liability to its absolute maximum (aka cannot stop spending.)

"Where Franklin Roosevelt abandoned the gold standard and its financial discipline for the debt standard, eleven successive administrations have pushed the debt standard to the limits of its viability, as seen now in the ongoing threat of possible systemic collapse. The effect of these policies has been a slow-motion destruction of the U.S. dollar's purchasing power, as seen in the accompanying table, since the gold standard was abandoned in 1933."

- That according to GAAP based financial statements the real debt load of the US Government is $62.6 Trillion with a $4.0 Trillion deficit for 2007.

"As discussed in the next section, the limits to the unlimited abuse of the debt standard are particularly evident in the GAAP-based financial statements of the U.S. government, which show the actual federal deficit at $4.0-plus trillion for 2007, alone, with total federal obligations standing at $62.6 trillion. With no ability to honor these obligations, the government effectively is bankrupt."

The paper continues:

"Again, the current circumstance will evolve into a hyperinflationary depression, then great depression. Although such is not likely much before 2010, or after 2018, that financial end game for the current markets will tend to come sooner rather than later and will break with surprising speed when it hits. As discussed later, this likely will not be a deflationary environment as seen during the Great Depression."

What to do, stockpile in the event your money cannot buy anything, and find a place where you can withstand the roving madness that will envelope the cities as this will eventually hit. This paper recommends that those who have money quietly transfer their wealth to a currency that is still gold-backed (aka the Swiss Franc.)

http://www.shadowstats.com/article/292

It is important to note that the Federal Reserve has already committed itself to this scenario with its policy of protecting the system - aka bailing out the banks while the end user is left to poverty and 'down-under' mortgages.

$30 Billion Bailout of Bear Sterns BY FEDS
http://story.malaysiasun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/3a8a80d6f705f8cc/id/365932/cs/1/

Bailouts Rule the Day : From Farms to Mansions Feds Assume the Risks
http://tinyurl.com/6g8lvz

CoreyBowen999
06-01-2008, 07:23 PM
So.. what does a teenager do?

slacker921
06-01-2008, 07:27 PM
some in the Fed are saying they are NOT going the route of hyper-inflation..
http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080528.cfm
"Fed don't play that game".. or so he says.

asgardshill
06-01-2008, 07:31 PM
So.. what does a teenager do?

Keep a little optimism and remember that just because somebody posts something on an Internet message board does not necessarily mean that it will actually come to pass. Yes poverty sucks, but being constantly fearful of the unknown sucks even more. And the smart and creative will never be truly poor because the engine that creates real wealth lies between their ears where they can always get to it. All they need do is use it.

In other words, get out there and create, speak out, love and live, and let the future take care of itself. Illigitamus non carborundum.

amy31416
06-01-2008, 07:36 PM
So.. what does a teenager do?

Panic and run amok. Always my plan B. ;)

Seriously though, you aren't too young to start investing money into precious metals, rather than the latest gadget.

Encourage your folks to stock up on some things. Make gardening a new hobby and educate yourself on how to be self-sufficient. Learn a skill that will always be useful like woodworking, electrical, mechanics--all that good stuff.

There's a good thread in "bearing arms" started by gunnyfreedom about how to prepare in case the SHTF. Everything you can learn about preparedness will not go to waste as it helps you live more efficiently, even if nothing ever goes wrong.

OptionsTrader
06-01-2008, 07:37 PM
So.. what does a teenager do?

Buy lots of lead, and develop a breakthrough in alchemy :)

Fox McCloud
06-01-2008, 07:41 PM
Buy lots of lead, and develop a breakthrough in alchemy :)

LOL, best quote I've seen in a long time.

gutteck
06-01-2008, 07:56 PM
The goal is a one world government. The steps the get there are creating continental unions and then unify them to form a single entity.

People in the US are too happy with their country to make it part of any cheese union with Mexico and Canada. That is why they are creating the situation in which enough empty stomachs will accept any solution to their hunger even if it means giving away their constitution and with it their freedoms for a piece of bread.

A north American union cannot be pushed if people are happy with their dollar.

XR500Final
06-01-2008, 08:23 PM
some in the Fed are saying they are NOT going the route of hyper-inflation..
http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080528.cfm
"Fed don't play that game".. or so he says.

They already HAVE gone the route of hyperinflation, it is in the budget, and the deficit and the debt. In order for them to clean up they would have to IMMEDIATELY end the war, adopt the gold standard again, bring all the troops home ad nauseum. The Feds are issuing currency like water to the banks, while at the same time cutting liquidity and credit access to the home owner.

If the GAAP accounting data is true we are already finished. I'm amazed that Obama and Hitlery are even studpid enough to take the reigns of the US at this time, it is literally a disaster waiting to happen.

Sites all over are deleting this post, inspite of the fact the article is completely sourced and researched. In other words they DON'T want the word getting out, they full well know this could trigger a economic collapse prematurely before the NWO would like it to occur.

RSLudlum
06-01-2008, 09:13 PM
you can DIGG it here: http://digg.com/business_finance/SuperDepression_Now_Inevitable_2010_How_to_Prepare

orafi
06-01-2008, 09:14 PM
So.. what does a teenager do?


every seen 'a boy and his dog'?

orafi
06-01-2008, 09:17 PM
somebody ballpark an estimate for what PMs would be worth at that time

Brian4Liberty
06-01-2008, 10:52 PM
The goal is a one world government. The steps the get there are creating continental unions and then unify them to form a single entity.
...
A north American union cannot be pushed if people are happy with their dollar.

Very true. In addition, intentionally destroying the dollar will result in a new currency, most likely issued for the UN by the World Bank. One world currency for all...

forsmant
06-01-2008, 10:55 PM
somebody ballpark an estimate for what PMs would be worth at that time

10 barrels of oil for gold and 35 ounces of silver for one once of gold. Of course, a ballpark is a pretty big place.

constituent
06-02-2008, 07:00 AM
http://main.anomalicresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/emptyshelves.jpg

http://www.shadowstats.com/article/292

The SuperDepression has become a mathematical certainty, based upon a excellent research paper by John Williams of ShadowStats. In his report he has shown that at the current level of debt to GDP ratio if the US Government were to seize 100% of the GDP (aka your paycheques and the paycheques of the companies your work for) -they would still remain completely unable to meet their currently ballooning financial obligations.

- That this depression will be hyperinflationary (aka Weimer Republic Type HyperInflation)

"As to the fate of the developing U.S. great depression, it will encompass the fire of a hyperinflation, instead of the ice of deflation seen in the major U.S. depressions prior to World War II. What promises hyperinflation this time is the lack monetary discipline formerly imposed on the system by the gold standard, and a Federal Reserve dedicated to preventing a collapse in the money supply and the implosion of the still, extremely over-leveraged domestic financial system."




I think this analysis is wrong beyond words.

They'll scrap the dollar for at least one more go.

constituent
06-02-2008, 07:02 AM
They already HAVE gone the route of hyperinflation, it is in the budget, and the deficit and the debt. In order for them to clean up they would have to IMMEDIATELY end the war, adopt the gold standard again, bring all the troops home ad nauseum. The Feds are issuing currency like water to the banks, while at the same time cutting liquidity and credit access to the home owner.



Any idea what kind of effect Immediately adopting the gold standard would really have?

(though imo, if oil fell sharply, say on the opening of new reserves in alaska or elsewhere the resulting crash in the price of gold
would make it more feasible)

Talk about a depression for everyone who doesn't own significant amounts of gold already. That would be reeeeeeeeeeeally ugly.

Legalizing competing currencies will destroy the FRN w/in a matter of years if not months or weeks. Then you would see Weimar style "hyperinflation" where a wheelbarrow of paper won't buy a loaf of bread... But i bet you'd be doing ok w/ a quarter pound of copper.

constituent
06-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Buy lots of lead, and develop a breakthrough in alchemy :)

hahahah +1000

But tell me when you do, I'll show you how to keep the secret safe ;).

syborius
06-02-2008, 07:32 AM
The goal is a one world government. The steps the get there are creating continental unions and then unify them to form a single entity.

People in the US are too happy with their country to make it part of any cheese union with Mexico and Canada. That is why they are creating the situation in which enough empty stomachs will accept any solution to their hunger even if it means giving away their constitution and with it their freedoms for a piece of bread.

A north American union cannot be pushed if people are happy with their dollar.

very good point, problem/reaction/solution....

These people are animals. It really is a race against time I fear.

Zippyjuan
06-02-2008, 11:43 AM
The SuperDepression has become a mathematical certainty
If it doesn't happen, do I get my money back? Nothing is certain in the future. Possible but not certainty. Other possibilities exist as well.