An incipient collectivist lashes out

[Oyate]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

[WRellim]

Individually, you can choose to be as gregarious or heck, even as COMMUNAL or SOCIALISTIC as you want...

As long as it is VOLUNTARY, and not enFORCEd by the power of some form of government, or made mandatory by some vote of 50% + 1 (or even higher) on those who choose NOT to voluntarily be so gregarious.

Comprende?

[Joe3113]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

You miss the point. Libertarians are not against socialism, we are against coercive socialism. If individuals want to get together voluntarily and pool their money in a socialist system with a democratically elected leader, then we are all for that.

[Pauls' Revere]

Individually, you can choose to be as gregarious or heck, even as COMMUNAL or SOCIALISTIC as you want...

As long as it is VOLUNTARY, and not enFORCEd by the power of some form of government, or made mandatory by some vote of 50% + 1 (or even higher) on those who choose NOT to voluntarily be so gregarious.

Comprende?

Amen Brother!

[LibertyEagle]

You miss the point. Libertarians are not against socialism, we are against coercive socialism. If individuals want to get together voluntarily and pool their money in a socialist system with a democratically elected leader, then we are all for that.

Speak for yourself!

[Kludge]

Speak for yourself!

+1 ;)

[Anti Federalist]

See?

[Ozwest]

Under the "guise" of Libertarianism, people are seeming some-what cruel and un-caring.

Have we lost the plot?

[Kludge]

Romanticism > Naturalism.

Romantic Realism > All.

Exhume Rand '08!

[sratiug]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

That's why we need government, to put us all in jail so we can be happy!

Form a committe to drive a car through the freeway in atlanta and give everybody a steering wheel and a gas pedal and see how long you live.

[inibo]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

Perhaps you confuse community and collective. To be united with others by choice or by a sense of obligation is not the same as being coerced by a mob.

[SLSteven]

In the words of Ron Paul -- "Freedom brings us together!"

[DealzOnWheelz]

individualists???

We just want individual freedom

The freedom to do as we please whether that involves being a hermit and secluding from society or being part of society.


and when was the last time you heard a ron paul supporter say "Hey ya know I hate all you and just want to be left alone, literally" When we say we want to be left alone it's not in the literal i don't want any human contact sense its more so in the i want to be left alone from tyrannical government searching me for any reason and invading my privacy in the name of sefety and security all while denying me the right to speak freely about it sense.

[Dorfsmith]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

You can have your pancakes and sleepovers but don't force them on me. :D

[nc4rp]

its called "protection of individual rights" -- is a minimum acceptable lowest common denominator of the rights an individual is entitled to. this is what the bush admin would like to totally reduce to zero instead of a reasonable acceptabe minimum.

your post is akin to calling Paul an "isolationist"

[soapmistress]

Speak for yourself!

The epitome of libertarianism :D

[rayzer]

i can make a more reasoned argument, and I will but why don't one of you individualists tell me how you make a pancake breakfast with all your friends if you are too individualistic to have any?

I mean, how do you even have a sleep-over as a total individualist?

Dudes, to a non-linear or codified extent, we are gregarious creatures. Like horses and dogs and yes, even sheep.

It is a know form of torture to deprive a human of contact with other humans.

Say what you like, but this is documented. We very literally need each other. We get sick and die without each other.

Does this inform your political sensibility?

Trev! Did you here my show today on Friday? Not only did I rant about this issue for an hour straight, but I wrote an outline of a thesis on this exact subject!

The bottom line is: YES, it is human nature to act in groups and seek leaders based on deep-rooted emotional responses to our fellow man. NO, it is NOT okay to apply that emotional "mob" mentality to a form of government. Government is based on laws and principles that MUST be upheld. It cannot be subject to the whims of "the mob". :) :) :)

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