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Knightskye
05-31-2008, 10:39 PM
Well?

mexicanpizza
05-31-2008, 10:46 PM
Roger that. She's only 4 though! Reads like a 3rd grader! :D

OptionsTrader
05-31-2008, 10:58 PM
I will when I have kids because both of my professions can be done from the computer and will be the stay at home dad if necessary if and when I ever have kids. In my 30s and thinking about it but the world is a little too fracked up to consider having kids now, I might adopt in a few years.

pinkmandy
05-31-2008, 11:25 PM
Absolutely. I sent my oldest to kind. and didn't want to. I ended up pulling him out halfway through the year. He's 11 now. I also have a 7 yo and a 2 yo. None of my kids will be going to public school. Homeschooling is awesome. My oldest literally invents all kinds of cool things- he has an invention almost every day. The only drawback is I have to keep an eye on him because he keeps taking apart stuff in my house to use for his inventions. The other day I had track down my missing towel rack from the bathroom- he had used it on a homemade cross bow (along w/the belt from my vacuum cleaner). ;)

Fields
05-31-2008, 11:26 PM
Roger that. She's only 4 though! Reads like a 3rd grader! :D

I take it that's her in the avatar??? If it is, that is soooo cute.

TheTyke
06-01-2008, 06:13 AM
I definitely plan to! I was homeschooled, and I am proud to say my parents were "homeschooling pioneers". :)

Meatwasp
06-01-2008, 08:08 AM
I definitely plan to! I was homeschooled, and I am proud to say my parents were "homeschooling pioneers". :)

We homeschooled our three boys in the sixties and they turned out to be great young men

amy31416
06-01-2008, 08:49 AM
We homeschooled our three boys in the sixties and they turned out to be great young men

Yeah, well, my mom thinks I'm brilliant and pretty too. :D

Lewinsky2012
06-01-2008, 09:27 AM
where is the "i dont plan to homeschool my kids" option? homeschooling kids for the sake of keeping them out of the department of educations hands seems a little extreme. I went through public school and I turned out just fine... or atleast thats what i like to believe.. im currently one year away to graduating from college with a degree in electrical engineering... I cant imagine being deprived of the lessons ive learned and the friends ive had throughout school. If you really are concerned about what your child learns than do what my parents did and get involved in your kids school work. Make sure you know when they ahve tests, projects and homework due. If they do well then they can get into advanced learning programs and will end up taking college level courses while still in high school. Maybe this isnt the same for everybody but im sure i would have missed out on many life lessons if I was never a part of the public school system and i plan on giving my kids the same treatment. And no, i dont believe in the department fo education and do think the system is flawed, but thats still not enoguh to convince me to homeschool my kids.

Meatwasp
06-01-2008, 09:34 AM
Yeah, well, my mom thinks I'm brilliant and pretty too. :D

If moms don't say it who will. Ha!

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:01 AM
I was homeschooled from 1st grade through high school but my son really wants to go to public school so that's what he gets to do. He starts kindergarten in August.

soapmistress
06-01-2008, 10:17 AM
As much as I hate the sound of this, I am going to use the term "Super-schooling" - I do have my kids in public school but I will not rely solely upon the pss to educate my children. I am extremely dissatisfied with the fact that 2nd graders only got 3 days of science last year because the teachers literally spent ALL YEAR teaching to the bubble test for English and Math.

So I will continue to keep them enrolled but I also will take a very active role in planning learner-centered and child-led educational activities that I can do with them myself.

SamuraisWisdom
06-01-2008, 10:24 AM
I'm not planning on homeschooling my children if/when I have them. First off and probably most important, they would lose out on the social aspect of school. Probably one of the greatest lessons you learn through public school is the life lesson of meeting people, making friends, and dealing with people you don't like and who don't like you. Second, I consider myself to be a relatively smart person, but I don't think I would be able to adequately teach my child in every subject that a public school would have to offer. There's a reason that people have to major/minor in specific areas in order to teach them.

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:26 AM
As much as I hate the sound of this, I am going to use the term "Super-schooling" - I do have my kids in public school but I will not rely solely upon the pss to educate my children. I am extremely dissatisfied with the fact that 2nd graders only got 3 days of science last year because the teachers literally spent ALL YEAR teaching to the bubble test for English and Math.

So I will continue to keep them enrolled but I also will take a very active role in planning learner-centered and child-led educational activities that I can do with them myself.

My plans exactly. My son is a major socialite and I don't want to keep him out of school for that reason alone. But I don't expect the school to teach him anything.

soapmistress
06-01-2008, 10:30 AM
However, when you grow up and have kids, and you see their teachers handing out xeroxs made from photocopies made from ditto machines of the same purple-tinged worksheets that YOU sat in front of for hours as a kid, it kinda makes you wonder how smart these "teachers" are :) Sometimes you hafta wonder... why don't we still take sticks and draw math problems in the dirt? It would save a lot of paper.

icon124
06-01-2008, 10:31 AM
I think about that...but kids who are home schooled have fewer friends, and when you are young friends are vital.

I'll probably keep them in school, but also teach them after school as well :)

soapmistress
06-01-2008, 10:33 AM
Everyone I know who homeschools has children who do gymnastics, Little League, girl scouts, you name it. They are the moms who have WAY more time - not just to sign their kids up and drop them off at practice, but to actually be the parent leaders in all of these groups.

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:33 AM
However, when you grow up and have kids, and you see their teachers handing out xeroxs made from photocopies made from ditto machines of the same purple-tinged worksheets that YOU sat in front of for hours as a kid, it kinda makes you wonder how smart these "teachers" are :) Sometimes you hafta wonder... why don't we still take sticks and draw math problems in the dirt? It would save a lot of paper.

Exactly :D There are a few teachers who really put their all into their work but most of them could care less how much your child learns as long as they barely pass the tests. My wife comes from a long line of public school employees and as much as I hate to say it...I'm not impressed with most of them.

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:36 AM
I think about that...but kids who are home schooled have fewer friends, and when you are young friends are vital.

I'll probably keep them in school, but also teach them after school as well :)

I think I turned out fine. I don't like very many people but that's because they are stupid and don't support Ron Paul...not because I was homeschooled and raised to be anti-social :D

risk_reward
06-01-2008, 10:37 AM
I'm not planning on homeschooling my children if/when I have them. First off and probably most important, they would lose out on the social aspect of school. Probably one of the greatest lessons you learn through public school is the life lesson of meeting people, making friends, and dealing with people you don't like and who don't like you. Second, I consider myself to be a relatively smart person, but I don't think I would be able to adequately teach my child in every subject that a public school would have to offer. There's a reason that people have to major/minor in specific areas in order to teach them.

Studies have shown that homeschool kids do better in socialization than public school kids. Think about it, is it better to have normal realtionships within your community or stuck in a room with 30 kids the same age? The answer is obvious.

John Taylor found, using the Piers-Harris Children's Self-Concept Scale, "while half of the conventionally schooled children scored at or below the 50th percentile (in self-concept), only 10.3% of the home-schooling children did so."[47] He further stated that "the self-concept of home-schooling children is significantly higher (and very much so statistically) than that of children attending the conventional school. This has implications in the areas of academic achievement and socialization, to mention only two. These areas have been found to parallel self-concept. Regarding socialization, Taylor's results would mean that very few home-schooling children are socially deprived. He claims that critics who speak out against home schooling on the basis of social deprivation are actually addressing an area which favors home schoolers.[47]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschool

47 Self-Concept in home-schooling children, John Wesley Taylor V, Ph.D., Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI

soapmistress
06-01-2008, 10:39 AM
I really would disagree with the thought that homeschooled kids have less friends. I think that of everyone I know, the homeschooled kids are breastfed longer, have a more secure attachment to their parents, have a strong sense of belonging within their family structure, have very strong attachments to their less-superficial circle of friends, and gain a lot of real-world experience.

More headshots in a yearbook /= more friends.

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:42 AM
Studies have shown that homeschool kids do better in socialization than public school kids. Think about it, is it better to have normal realtionships within your community or stuck in a room with 30 kids the same age? The answer is obvious.

John Taylor found, using the Piers-Harris Children's Self-Concept Scale, "while half of the conventionally schooled children scored at or below the 50th percentile (in self-concept), only 10.3% of the home-schooling children did so."[47] He further stated that "the self-concept of home-schooling children is significantly higher (and very much so statistically) than that of children attending the conventional school. This has implications in the areas of academic achievement and socialization, to mention only two. These areas have been found to parallel self-concept. Regarding socialization, Taylor's results would mean that very few home-schooling children are socially deprived. He claims that critics who speak out against home schooling on the basis of social deprivation are actually addressing an area which favors home schoolers.[47]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschool

47 Self-Concept in home-schooling children, John Wesley Taylor V, Ph.D., Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI


Yep. The socialization thing is a complete myth. I'm sure there are a few extreme cases of kids who were deprived but where I was raised we had a huge group of homeschoolers who were very active in sports, boyscouts, girlscouts, etc. In fact, one of the football coaches at the middle school actually homeschooled his kids.

asgardshill
06-01-2008, 10:43 AM
My cousin homeschools her 8 year old. There are good and bad things about the way she's doing it so far (the kid speaks fluent Hebrew but can't tell you what 4 times 5 is and his handwriting is atrocious).

allyinoh
06-01-2008, 10:44 AM
I will when I have kids because both of my professions can be done from the computer and will be the stay at home dad if necessary if and when I ever have kids. In my 30s and thinking about it but the world is a little too fracked up to consider having kids now, I might adopt in a few years.

I'm right there with you... Except the job part.

I will never send my kids to public school, ever!

pinkmandy
06-01-2008, 10:44 AM
I'm not planning on homeschooling my children if/when I have them. First off and probably most important, they would lose out on the social aspect of school. Probably one of the greatest lessons you learn through public school is the life lesson of meeting people, making friends, and dealing with people you don't like and who don't like you. Second, I consider myself to be a relatively smart person, but I don't think I would be able to adequately teach my child in every subject that a public school would have to offer. There's a reason that people have to major/minor in specific areas in order to teach them.

I promised myself I wouldn't start debating anyone who felt ps was okay. I swear, I tried to refrain but I couldn't ignore this. :D

The greatest lesson you learn is the life lesson of meeting people? Making friends? Dealing w/people? Because we know that only happens in schools. And schools are definitely the way to teach kids to "get along" with others. I mean, hell, look at how great everyone in society gets along! And they do it without even questioning authority!

I love our RP Republicans but you guys have to realize that PUBLIC SCHOOLS are one of the biggest, if not the biggest, obstacles we face in educating people. You have to realize WHY these schools were created, their purpose, and the success they have had. While we all complain about ignorant people- they are trained to be that way. I applaud those who realize this and do "extra" education like SoapMistress. Even that, though, will only put your child at a disadvantage because he will be smarter than the others. He will spend many wasted hours in school, bored, while others memorize the same redundant things over and over and over.

And the funniest statement ever is that you don't know enough to teach your kids what they learn in school. Um, didn't you go yourself? You should know everything and be perfectly capable of passing it on to your own kids if it works so well. ;)

Read up on this guys. Start researching. I know not everyone has a choice, not everyone CAN homeschool so I'm not trying to down you. If you do have a choice, though, make one. Research schools like you researched Ron Paul. Everything about them from their not so humble socialist beginnings (look up the fathers of American education) to unions, textbooks, how curriculum is selected (the hatred of phonics is particularly fascinating), NEA goals (guess what, they have little to do with actual education)- everything you can find. Public schools were put in place to control the masses. To create a worker who is educated enough to do his job, but not educated enough to think critically and raise questions. To create a society that willingly accepts socialism and thinks of the "greater good" before they think of their own individual rights.

Go to your local schools and ask questions. Many don't teach phonics (if you don't hs, PLEASE teach your child phonics). Renegade teachers have gotten in trouble for teaching phonics! Instead, the method of look say is more prevalent. That is memorizing the words instead of learning to sound them out. Seriously. Teachers collect supplies from the kids (notebooks, pencils the parents send for their child) then "redistribute" them among the kids randomly to be fair. Increasingly we have schools with "no fail" policies- no one's self esteem gets hurt because they fail a grade! Ask your avg American about Constitutional rights, especially high schoolers. Ask them about the Federal Reserve. ;)

Dorfsmith
06-01-2008, 10:47 AM
My cousin homeschools her 8 year old. There are good and bad things about the way she's doing it so far (the kid speaks fluent Hebrew but can't tell you what 4 times 5 is and his handwriting is atrocious).

Some parents teach better than others I'm sure. But I could show you a ton of public school kids who can't tell you what 4 times 5 is and have terrible handwriting :D Heck, half of my son's friends in the neighborhood can hardly speak English let alone write it.

amy31416
06-01-2008, 10:50 AM
I went to public school for the majority of my education and I am the biggest introvert I know (not saying much coming from an introvert-ha.) These decisions about schooling should be made based on the child's personality, the quality of the schools and the parent's capability to educate them.

Take a step back and look at the big picture as to what you think would be the best.

amy31416
06-01-2008, 10:52 AM
I promised myself I wouldn't start debating anyone who felt ps was okay. I swear, I tried to refrain but I couldn't ignore this. :D

The greatest lesson you learn is the life lesson of meeting people? Making friends? Dealing w/people? Because we know that only happens in schools. And schools are definitely the way to teach kids to "get along" with others. I mean, hell, look at how great everyone in society gets along! And they do it without even questioning authority!

I love our RP Republicans but you guys have to realize that PUBLIC SCHOOLS are one of the biggest, if not the biggest, obstacles we face in educating people. You have to realize WHY these schools were created, their purpose, and the success they have had. While we all complain about ignorant people- they are trained to be that way. I applaud those who realize this and do "extra" education like SoapMistress. Even that, though, will only put your child at a disadvantage because he will be smarter than the others. He will spend many wasted hours in school, bored, while others memorize the same redundant things over and over and over.

And the funniest statement ever is that you don't know enough to teach your kids what they learn in school. Um, didn't you go yourself? You should know everything and be perfectly capable of passing it on to your own kids if it works so well. ;)

Read up on this guys. Start researching. I know not everyone has a choice, not everyone CAN homeschool so I'm not trying to down you. If you do have a choice, though, make one. Research schools like you researched Ron Paul. Everything about them from their not so humble socialist beginnings (look up the fathers of American education) to unions, textbooks, how curriculum is selected (the hatred of phonics is particularly fascinating), NEA goals (guess what, they have little to do with actual education)- everything you can find. Public schools were put in place to control the masses. To create a worker who is educated enough to do his job, but not educated enough to think critically and raise questions. To create a society that willingly accepts socialism and thinks of the "greater good" before they think of their own individual rights.

Go to your local schools and ask questions. Many don't teach phonics (if you don't hs, PLEASE teach your child phonics). Renegade teachers have gotten in trouble for teaching phonics! Instead, the method of look say is more prevalent. That is memorizing the words instead of learning to sound them out. Seriously. Teachers collect supplies from the kids (notebooks, pencils the parents send for their child) then "redistribute" them among the kids randomly to be fair. Increasingly we have schools with "no fail" policies- no one's self esteem gets hurt because they fail a grade! Ask your avg American about Constitutional rights, especially high schoolers. Ask them about the Federal Reserve. ;)

I agree with you 100% if every parent was as capable and smart as you, but not all parents are qualified to be good teachers even if they know the right things.

pinkmandy
06-01-2008, 10:53 AM
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm

asgardshill
06-01-2008, 10:54 AM
Some parents teach better than others I'm sure. But I could show you a ton of public school kids who can't tell you what 4 times 5 is and have terrible handwriting :D Heck, half of my son's friends in the neighborhood can hardly speak English let alone write it.

True. My handwriting wasn't exactly Palmer Method perfect either when I was his age. I teach the occasional mini-clinic in math, English lit, and computer technology so he gets it from all sides of the family :)

Ethek
06-01-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm lucky enough that my wife can stay home. We have two kids homeschooled. Our daughter is special needs in a power wheel chair and my son has food allergies that cause ADD like behavior. They are much better adjusted for being homeschooled.

Our daughter does not think about her limitations and our son is not 'labeled' At home we can tailor 2-3 hrs a day to education and they are far outpacing the school curriculum. Our sons 'ADD' is not even a problem since we can help supervise his diet so hes not intaking food preservatives and colors that cause his allergy. My son is 6 right now and reads on a 4th grade level. He swims like a fish from getting time in the pool everyday and we can pick up and hit the road whenever its convenient because the books go with us. Homeschooling works pretty well for us.

Its weird because both the wife and I have families that have been really impressed with our life decisions so far, all except for deciding to home school our kids. Its the unspoken concern for all of them but I think as time goes on they are seeing they are not failing to learn anything and are more social than many other kids.

Meatwasp
06-01-2008, 11:01 AM
[QUOTE=icon124;1489007]I think about that...but kids who are home schooled have fewer friends, and when you are young friends are vital.



You are really wrong on that. My kids had lots of friends when people came down to see us and they could see how brainwashed some of those kids were. They met all kinds of people that had the nerve towalk down the trail and they were more mature also they learned to create all kinds of super games.
They definetly were not stamped out of the same rubber stamp.

sratiug
06-01-2008, 11:09 AM
An elementary school teacher friend or mine, when I was complaining about a police incident on television told me that the Bill of Rights only applies to federal crimes. Be very afraid.

I think you only need a major or minor for teaching in high school.

It would be to our great advantage to take over public schools and teach things that are actually important. Let's infiltrate the PTA. Get rid of Dick and Jane, and start with Thomas and George.

What if we took one school district and made that happen? The kid that told the teacher off about Ron Paul should NEVER have gotten detention for excercising his 1st amendment rights. When we treat young adults like children we get a nation of childish people. A first grader is only a very short time removed from puberty, at which time he should be fully educated and out of regular schooling if you want him to be prepared to live his life.

At 12 years old I was left running my family's business alone many times. A major overlooked factor contributing to our nation's demise is that hardly anybody runs family businesses anymore with kids involved.

ThePieSwindler
06-01-2008, 11:16 AM
I agree with those talking up homeschooling, for the most part. Public school was a waste of time until upper high school, whe the teachers really seemed to give a bit more of a shit on an individual level, and were excellent - maybe i just got lucky on teachers. Granted, i did meet most of my friends at school, and thats a big bonus, but homeschoolers with active parents can meet and keep just as many friends.

I think, if you have the money, private school is really the way to go, unless the parent is a master of pedagoguery, otherwise its really so much effort expended by a parent that can be "outsourced" to even higher quality of education, if it can be afforded. Besides, if the parent isn't open minded enough, homeschooling can be just as agenda-driven as public schooling, even if the intentions are better, and the child might not acquire all the tools he needs to truly be critical in his evaluations of claims and arguments. Private school is where ill be sending my children (when i have children, that is :-p), though i do empathize with homeschoolers alot and want to see the movement become more robust in the future.

crazyfacedjenkins
06-01-2008, 11:22 AM
where is the "i dont plan to homeschool my kids" option? homeschooling kids for the sake of keeping them out of the department of educations hands seems a little extreme. I went through public school and I turned out just fine... or atleast thats what i like to believe.. im currently one year away to graduating from college with a degree in electrical engineering... I cant imagine being deprived of the lessons ive learned and the friends ive had throughout school. If you really are concerned about what your child learns than do what my parents did and get involved in your kids school work. Make sure you know when they ahve tests, projects and homework due. If they do well then they can get into advanced learning programs and will end up taking college level courses while still in high school. Maybe this isnt the same for everybody but im sure i would have missed out on many life lessons if I was never a part of the public school system and i plan on giving my kids the same treatment. And no, i dont believe in the department fo education and do think the system is flawed, but thats still not enoguh to convince me to homeschool my kids.

I got an electrical engineering degree with high honers from Rutgers and I got to tell you, public schools are a joke. They are way too easy and only meant to teach you how to wake up and grind along at a 9 to 5. As far as meeting people, that's also a joke, I don't talk to one person I was friends with in high school.

Knightskye
06-09-2008, 08:36 PM
So far, pretty positive results. 68.42% are homeschooling or will homeschool in the future.

Bumping for more poll results.

wgadget
06-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Yep. Homeschool veteran of 15 years here.

SnappleLlama
06-10-2008, 11:39 AM
I wish I had been homeschooled after sixth grade...that was the last year I attended private school (the best years of my school life!). After that, I was in hell.

Homeschooling all the way!

driller80545
06-10-2008, 11:46 AM
My wife and I home schooled both of our sons (who are now grown) from the third grade on and they are doing better than we are now. The only down side to it that I can remember is that it was a lot of work. They didn't socialize a lot as kids and don't now either. But they are married and have their own families and seem ok most of the time.

LittleLightShining
06-10-2008, 11:49 AM
I think about that...but kids who are home schooled have fewer friends, and when you are young friends are vital.

I'll probably keep them in school, but also teach them after school as well :)How many friends do you have that you had in school? The socialization aspect is so overrated. Kids who are homeschooled usually have a more diverse social sphere than kids in school. This is true because homeschooling parents often engage their children in various activities which require children to learn how to socialize with people in different age groups and backgrounds.

Children who are homeschooled are also more likely to ask questions which require critical thinking as opposed to accept what the teacher says as fact in school. Groups of children are often encouraged to accept a herd mentality. Homeschooled kids become who they are without the peer pressure.

Indy4Chng
06-10-2008, 12:01 PM
We are way to lazy in our family. We will not home school our kids. Plus what about sports? Your kids can't play any sports after high school if they are home schooled and I think sports is an important self-confidence builder. Plus I know I would have gone insane if I had to spend that much time with my Mom as a teenager.

We are planning on sending them to public school till middle school and then either charter or private school. You know why kids that are home schooled are better off is because their parents are involved in their lives, thus the better social results, I don't think it is because of homeschooling. If parents would be involved kids would turn out fine, but unfortunately many are not.

Knightskye
06-10-2008, 12:04 PM
Plus what about sports?

What about them?


Your kids can't play any sports after high school if they are home schooled

That depends on the state.

Kludge
06-10-2008, 12:07 PM
I'm going for my teaching degree next year and intend to teach "America at War" and U.S. History at the very same public high school I just graduated. That said, there's no way in Hell that I'd ever send my kids to learn from there. My eighth grade history teacher had us look into conditions of slavery for over a week when teaching about the Civil War.

Ethek
06-10-2008, 12:12 PM
I'm going for my teaching degree next year and intend to teach "America at War" and U.S. History at the very same public high school I just graduated. That said, there's no way in Hell that I'd ever send my kids to learn from there. My eighth grade history teacher had us look into conditions of slavery for over a week when teaching about the Civil War.

Was a highpoint that the Civil War was not actually about slavery? /doubts

Fyretrohl
06-10-2008, 12:13 PM
We are way to lazy in our family. We will not home school our kids. Plus what about sports? Your kids can't play any sports after high school if they are home schooled and I think sports is an important self-confidence builder. Plus I know I would have gone insane if I had to spend that much time with my Mom as a teenager.

We are planning on sending them to public school till middle school and then either charter or private school. You know why kids that are home schooled are better off is because their parents are involved in their lives, thus the better social results, I don't think it is because of homeschooling. If parents would be involved kids would turn out fine, but unfortunately many are not.


In most states, the sports comment is incorrect. The schools, in most states, are required to leave access open to homeschoolers for extra curricular activities, etc.

rathskeller
06-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Lewinski...didn't you get the memo? On these forums, you MUST generalize everything. No exceptions are allowed.

Hence, anyone who has ever questions anything that ron Paul has EVER done...no matter who that person is...is pure evil. No ifs ands or buts about it.

Similar,y no one has EVER gotten a good education by going to school. Ever.

Seriously...if you plan on being a member of these boards, you BETTER take it more seriously. Rational thinkingand open-mindedness is NOT allowed here. Try to do it again and you will be banned.

Sandra
06-10-2008, 04:33 PM
Lewinski...didn't you get the memo? On these forums, you MUST generalize everything. No exceptions are allowed.

Hence, anyone who has ever questions anything that ron Paul has EVER done...no matter who that person is...is pure evil. No ifs ands or buts about it.

Similar,y no one has EVER gotten a good education by going to school. Ever.

Seriously...if you plan on being a member of these boards, you BETTER take it more seriously. Rational thinkingand open-mindedness is NOT allowed here. Try to do it again and you will be banned.

Ratskeller is a McCain shill. Please review his past posts.

amy31416
06-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Lewinski...didn't you get the memo? On these forums, you MUST generalize everything. No exceptions are allowed.

Hence, anyone who has ever questions anything that ron Paul has EVER done...no matter who that person is...is pure evil. No ifs ands or buts about it.

Similar,y no one has EVER gotten a good education by going to school. Ever.

Seriously...if you plan on being a member of these boards, you BETTER take it more seriously. Rational thinkingand open-mindedness is NOT allowed here. Try to do it again and you will be banned.

What the hell are you blathering about?

kirkblitz
06-10-2008, 05:03 PM
no but i was home schooled and it allowed me to skip ahead of about 2-3 years of high school and the first year of college :D

Knightskye
06-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Bump.

"Yes" and "No" are tied; "I plan to" is in the lead.

A little over seven hours until the poll closes.

Nirvikalpa
06-14-2008, 03:36 PM
I will probably send my kids to a public/private school (depending on where we live) at least until 5th grade. That's basic learning that doesn't really change much whether you are in public school, private, or homeschool. Same subjects, same books, same learning materials.

After 5th grade, I will probably home-school my children - or my husband (lolz) will, depending on what job I have (hopefully I'll be a doctor). They'll be primed in Science, Math, English and Politics, that is for sure.

pinkmandy
06-14-2008, 03:39 PM
I will probably send my kids to a public/private school (depending on where we live) at least until 5th grade. That's basic learning that doesn't really change much whether you are in public school, private, or homeschool. Same subjects, same books, same learning materials.


You have no idea how different "basic learning" is in private schools and homeschools vs. public schools. You would think the stuff is basic, but it isn't. There's a reason we have so many learning centers such as Sylvan, etc.

And good luck pulling your child out once he or she is part of the system.

Nirvikalpa
06-14-2008, 03:53 PM
You have no idea how different "basic learning" is in private schools and homeschools vs. public schools. You would think the stuff is basic, but it isn't. There's a reason we have so many learning centers such as Sylvan, etc.

And good luck pulling your child out once he or she is part of the system.

There are good areas of the country where public schools are just as good academically as private schools are. Unfortunately, I don't know if they'll last another 20 years. Eventually they'll all be bad... maybe within the next 5. Whatever happens, I'll make sure my kids get the best education they can get, because an education is the best gift you can offer your children. I'm not letting the government turn my children into know-nothing's - that is out of the question.

If my kid knows 1+2, I can take it from there. And trust me, my child won't be part of the system. I never was, either - I was always different and the one getting beat up because I was an outcast. Plus, I'm quite a brainwashing person... :p

pinkmandy
06-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Define good. High test scores? They mean NOTHING. You really have to dig in and find out what curriculum they use. There are vast differences- from locality to locality even. The old generalization that there are some good schools...find them and then analyze them. Schools have become a breeding ground for Marxism.

What's going on in public schools is way more pervasive than what you see on the surface.

Ron Paul Vermont
06-14-2008, 05:56 PM
where is the "i dont plan to homeschool my kids" option? homeschooling kids for the sake of keeping them out of the department of educations hands seems a little extreme. I went through public school and I turned out just fine... or atleast thats what i like to believe.. im currently one year away to graduating from college with a degree in electrical engineering... I cant imagine being deprived of the lessons ive learned and the friends ive had throughout school. If you really are concerned about what your child learns than do what my parents did and get involved in your kids school work. Make sure you know when they ahve tests, projects and homework due. If they do well then they can get into advanced learning programs and will end up taking college level courses while still in high school. Maybe this isnt the same for everybody but im sure i would have missed out on many life lessons if I was never a part of the public school system and i plan on giving my kids the same treatment. And no, i dont believe in the department fo education and do think the system is flawed, but thats still not enoguh to convince me to homeschool my kids.

Homeschool them except get them envolved in public school sports programs. That is what my parents did to me and it worked out great. I had friends and could still hang out and socialize and all that stuff.

lucius
06-14-2008, 08:11 PM
Yes, I am homeschooling, but I just started reading about Montessori--very interesting!

lisajames96
06-14-2008, 09:57 PM
Well?


Yes,
Just started home schooling this year with my 5 and 3 year old. Most of my family just can't understand why I will not send my children to "real"(government) school.

teshuah
06-14-2008, 10:00 PM
we homeschool - many different reasons.. gov't schools, we are the parents, we can control what they learn etc.. but a huge one is that foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child. And when they are young they are SO easily impressionable. If they are here I can more easily control the environment and not have them around other children where it's just foolishness all around. THey see other kids and partake in events.. but afterward i'm always having to 'deprogram' them from some of the things thye learn that are not acceptable in our house. I can't even imagine how hard it would be if I sent them to school! ie... the 8yo neighbor boy was playing hotwheels cars with my son... and says "I'm in the back seat of this car having sex with my girlfriend" ummm.... yeah, that's what I DON'T want my kids around alll day 5 days a week.

EgwaTlvdatsi
07-11-2008, 09:35 PM
I am curious, the last time I heard about home schooling it was through church organizations, is it still that way?

I've been thinking about homeschooling my youngest son, but have had reservations about the preachy nature of the homeschooling that I've seen...

Mckarnin
07-11-2008, 10:11 PM
I missed the poll but yes, I do. I am homeschooling my 6 and 4 year old daughters. Already homeschooled my youngest sister (we were also her guardians) from age 12-18. She is in college now with a 1/2 tuition scholarship.



Well?

Mckarnin
07-11-2008, 10:12 PM
Doesn't have to be for religious reasons at all. A lot of people homeschool because they want to let their children pace themselves and/or have time to pursue personal interests instead of having their life dictated by school hours and homework.




I am curious, the last time I heard about home schooling it was through church organizations, is it still that way?

I've been thinking about homeschooling my youngest son, but have had reservations about the preachy nature of the homeschooling that I've seen...

RockEnds
07-11-2008, 10:15 PM
I am curious, the last time I heard about home schooling it was through church organizations, is it still that way?

I've been thinking about homeschooling my youngest son, but have had reservations about the preachy nature of the homeschooling that I've seen...

I homeschool, and I am not religious. I have no problem finding resources that are not preachy. There's a lot available on ebay. We have a local bookstore that is filled with teaching material. There are numerous webpages with resources. I haven't had any problem at all.

JosephTheLibertarian
07-11-2008, 10:25 PM
I homeschool my imaginary kids everyday. Is that good?

RockEnds
07-11-2008, 10:27 PM
I homeschool my imaginary kids everyday. Is that good?

I dunno. How are they progressing?

Waldo
07-12-2008, 12:28 PM
We homeschool our 3 young boys but for many different reasons, not just academic ones. In
fact, I see people here saying their kid reads at a 4th grade level at 7, or whatever the case
may be (and thats great!) but my 7 year old has a very hard time reading even at the lowest
levels. It's very frustrating for him, so we are just taking nice and slow with a good phonics
program and read to him a lot, which he loves. He can tell you the name of all the states
on a blank map and knows half the the capitals. He loves geography and math and can spend
hours doing it. So I think some people might get the impression that it's the goal of the
homeschool parent to advance the child as fast as they can, but this is not the case for us.

Socially, my kids couldn't be more different. One being very shy and more of a "stand on the
side-lines" kind of kid, and then I have the other extreme who introduces himself(and us) to
a group of college girls at a restaurant. "Hi, I'm Ethan. This is my family. I'm 5. You have pretty
hair"... and so on :) The point is, they are individuals and it's virtually impossible to expect
public schools to be able to handle individuals.

Some parents who might like to homeschool but feel they don't know enough need to
understand that they live in a community. This is what brought me to the message of
Ron Paul. The idea that we should get back to the community and learn how we can
become involved and also how much it really has to offer. There are so many resources,
many of which are free, that are perfect for homeschoolers.

I would also like to add that I cannot help to see a correlation to the average American
work day to public schools. "We" sit in a room of people, in our desk, cubicle, or workstation.
There's a lot of busy work, papers to turn in to be reviewed by " the boss". You can't wait
until lunchtime and the bell to ring at the end of the day. What am I missing? Spitballs?


Waldo